AT WHAT AGE POINT IS ACENSION USELESS

[Deleted member 32410]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

 

[bradpittshairline]

28

 

[bradpittshairline]

U prolly aren’t ugly enough to get not pussy

 

[lilxder2]

16

 

[Deleted member 32410]

28

But I feel like even after uni, I’ll be 22, and it’s still useless since how will I even meet girls?

 

[IceBreaker0]

never you dumbass
You only have 1 life

 

[cytoplasm]

22

 

[bradpittshairline]

But I feel like even after uni, I’ll be 22, and it’s still useless since how will I even meet girls?

U will work with attractive ones all day for the rest of your life + dating apps

 

[Gandy]

I'd say you have until around 29-30 and that is being very generous.
Most guys have lost their collagen and hair by that point and it's utterly pointless to looksmax anymore.

Realistically - if you can - get as many procedures done before you are age 23. You will get to enjoy at least a decade of fun dating life, if your starting point was a recessed goblin.

There is no point saving up money until age 37 and starting looksmaxing and getting surgeries. Might as well rot after that point.
Not only has the guy's brain rotted from decades of loneliness they will have no idea how to approach women or what to say on dating apps.

tldr; Do 'hardmaxes' and costly looks upgrades way, way before you hit 30. Preferably way before you hit 25 years old.
No amount of money in the world matters when it comes to maxing out your youth. 18-26 should be when you form fun dating memories and have a good carefree time with the opposite gender (or same, if that's your thing). You cannot compensate this at an age like 40.

 

[bradpittshairline]

I'd say you have until around 29-30 and that is being very generous.
Most guys have lost their collagen and hair by that point and it's utterly pointless to looksmax anymore.

Realistically - if you can - get as many procedures done before you are age 23. You will get to enjoy at least a decade of fun dating life, if your starting point was a recessed goblin.

There is no point saving up money until age 37 and starting looksmaxing and getting surgeries. Might as well rot after that point.
Not only has the guy's brain rotted from decades of loneliness they will have no idea how to approach women or what to say on dating apps.

tldr; Do 'hardmaxes' and costly looks upgrades way, way before you hit 30. Preferably way before you hit 25 years old

Most will have a real big boy job at 22-23 which will mean they’ll have savings by 24, so 26 is a good number counting recovery and multiple procedures within a year.

For example, some docs can do bimax + rhino/implants in one go. You can do skin laser treatment anytime. Implants give instant results minus swelling that’s shortlived

 

[BucketCrab]

Entirely dependent on your genetics and lifestyle, you can be incel at 18 and slayer at 35.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Born incel die incel

 

[tervile1]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

above 25

 

[Deleted member 32410]

Most will have a real big boy job at 22-23 which will mean they’ll have savings by 24, so 26 is a good number counting recovery and multiple procedures within a year.

For example, some docs can do bimax + rhino/implants in one go. You can do skin laser treatment anytime. Implants give instant results minus swelling that’s shortlived

For me there’s this algorithm I had

rhino/leanmaxxing/TCA acne scar treatments goes perfect-> ascension to HTN
-> able to get into social clubs at uni and be a decent gl guy

-> status max, social max, pull MTBs some higher given my appeal.

-> finally not be a rotten-soul forum dwelling sad ugly cunt loser incel.

———

If rhino doesn’t go good

—> capped at MTN

—> social club maybe, but no pulls

—> depression, can’t get rev. Till 23 yrs old

 

[Deleted member 27746]

16

 

[X D]

over after highschool. at that point you’re just coping for never getting to experience teenage love

 

[Deleted member 32410]

over after highschool. at that point you’re just coping for never getting to experience teenage love

I had teenage love I’m not trucel or really that ugly I just moved to a big city in Uni and wasn’t as gl relative to the guys here.

I’m low HTN in old town high MTN here

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I had teenage love I’m not trucel or really that ugly I just moved to a big city in Uni and wasn’t as gl relative to the guys here.

I’m low HTN in old town high MTN here

Poor you

 

[Deleted member 27746]

if you missed out on teen love it never began

 

[tervile1]

over after highschool. at that point you’re just coping for never getting to experience teenage love

no if you can skinmaxx moneymaxx you can date prime young woman even as older dude it's quite famous in redpill community

 

[Deleted member 32410]

Poor you

Tbh I was lucky I was a tiny private school and didn’t have much competition. If I was in regular public school with tons of kids i would have never had teen love. I just got lucky.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Tbh I was lucky I was a tiny private school and didn’t have much competition. If I was in regular public school with tons of kids i would have never had teen love. I just got lucky.

You sound like a pussy
I bet your hands are smoother than a women’s
Hahahahha

 

[bradpittshairline]

For me there’s this algorithm I had

rhino/leanmaxxing/TCA acne scar treatments goes perfect-> ascension to HTN
-> able to get into social clubs at uni and be a decent gl guy

-> status max, social max, pull MTBs some higher given my appeal.

-> finally not be a rotten-soul forum dwelling sad ugly cunt loser incel.

———

If rhino doesn’t go good

—> capped at MTN

—> social club maybe, but no pulls

—> depression, can’t get rev. Till 23 yrs old

idk how im in uni and i have some flaws but I'm still getting girls, but since i started getting cystic acne it stopped, now I'm on Accutane. Are social clubs in uni a good way to pull girls?

my plan is jaw surgery in Italy with infras and then I'm done, i have big nose so i may fine tune it very very conservatively, people can easily tell when u do something to your nose unless you were fat before

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also, coping with surgery for dating is bad, you should be able to pull with softmaxxes alone, the standards for men are very low. if u wanna do surgery do it for you

 

[Deleted member 31459]

Men age like fine wine bro

 

[Deleted member 32410]

idk how im in uni and i have some flaws but I'm still getting girls, but since i started getting cystic acne it stopped, now I'm on Accutane. Are social clubs in uni a good way to pull girls?

my plan is jaw surgery in Italy with infras and then I'm done, i have big nose so i may fine tune it very very conservatively, people can easily tell when u do something to your nose unless you were fat before

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also, coping with surgery for dating is bad, you should be able to pull with softmaxxes alone, the standards for men are very low. if u wanna do surgery do it for you

Rhinoplasty my only surgery.

I’m not some cunt who thinks 10 diff surgeries gonna make me Chico

I alr have good base like good FWHR ideal ratios, great IPD and IPH good base. It’s not like it never began for me it’s that I got to a very high attractiness level uni so it’s harder for me now.

But my nose was a bulbous asysmtric mess. Even normies pick up on traits like bulbous tip, horrible collagen, etc.

No other surgery for me

 

[bradpittshairline]

Rhinoplasty my only surgery.

I’m not some cunt who thinks 10 diff surgeries gonna make me Chico

I alr have good base like good FWHR ideal ratios, great IPD and IPH good base. It’s not like it never began for me it’s that I got to a very high attractiness level uni so it’s harder for me now.

But my nose was a bulbous asysmtric mess. Even normies pick up on traits like bulbous tip, horrible collagen, etc.

No other surgery for me

same tbh, i need jaw surgery medically but i realized that if I'm opening up my face, i can put implants for dark circles and get a rhino at the same time. After that i don't have to worry about it.

I have bulbous nose too and idk if I'm crazy but it looks bigger than it did 2 years back, apparently it takes a good surgeon to fix this because there's more soft tissue than cartilage responsible

 

[DR. NICKGA]

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement

Taked one year to change a simple hair texture? Nigga

All things you said can easily done in 1 year

 

[Deleted member 52566]

MTN should be able to get pussy

 

[slavic]

No age really, go on tiktok and lookup “dxniel looksmaxxing” he ascended from a recessed cuck in his mid to late 20s

 

[mvp2v1]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

don’t listen to the retards in this thread saying late 20s is over.

The true answer is that whatever that age is (varies by person) where looksmaxing can no longer improve your SMV enough to attain the quality of life you’re willing to accept. That’s the age where you don’t bother. I’d say for most people that’s starting in late 40s maybe 50. Granted even with looksmaxing u will be relagated to a small number of washed up woman unless u either anti age max successfully or have money. It’s really about how much your cope you’re willing to take on. If your looking for a minimal cope lifestyle then probably late 30s

 

[kanderior]

don’t listen to the retards in this thread saying late 20s is over.

The true answer is that whatever that age is (varies by person) where looksmaxing can no longer improve your SMV enough to attain the quality of life you’re willing to accept. That’s the age where you don’t bother. I’d say for most people that’s starting in late 40s maybe 50. Granted even with looksmaxing u will be relagated to a small number of washed up woman unless u either anti age max successfully or have money. It’s really about how much your cope you’re willing to take on. If your looking for a minimal cope lifestyle then probably late 30s

yeah they make it sound like average guys can just choose to have money to blow on surgeries when they're still in fucking college or the beginning of their career

 

[kanderior]

anyway I'd say 35 is officially the age where you're too old to do all the fun party womanizing etc. stuff you wish you could have done in your 20s without looking like a weirdo to society and everyone you meet. So 30-32 I guess. Unless you're a celeb, influencer or some kind of high-status guy, in which case higher ages are more socially acceptable, but obviously that's not the case for the majority of guys.

 

[Saint Casanova]

After 25, it gets harder as you have to fight ageing but it’s still doable

 

[Deleted member 49008]

Writing a serious answer for you OP

I mean, I know a 27 old who looks much older and not very GL (thin hair, thick facial hair, bad skin, receded hairline) and have a 29 year old friend who looks my age (24) and looks like a mogger. The former looks creepy when going out while the other still has very very high appeal to a 23-25 y/o (21-22 might be creeped out due to age, but tbh he still slays).

Op my advice is continue ascending but shift your focus. Realistically for a ONS it’s pretty much luck if ur not chadlite (assuming we do minimal effort and don’t approach lol). I’ve had nights going out where I was rejected left and right and others where I get approached, it’s so out of your control if ur sub chadlite.

Look I am like an extremely strong MTN but fairly NT and make friends easily — I have a golden retriever esque personality which isnt ideal for slaying but will attract quality/good people into your life. I’ve only slayed only 4 times this year but I’ve had a fuck load of fun memories with my friends to look back on.

Yes slaying is the goal for us all, but please social max (be a yes man…go out, be energetic and happy, and talk to people). Start integrating into social circles and just go with the flow, be observant to how NT people socialize and have fun. I never did this from 18-22 and instead only cared about the idea of being a chad and slaying. I snapped out of it and realized if I don’t start making core memories I will forever have regret.

I’m going to be real, I slayed a LEGIT 9/10 girl (HQNP white girl) when I lost my v card at 21 but it’s no where near as memorable when I look at my picture collection of the festivals/concerts I went to with my friends, celebrating Halloween/NYE, being out together at the bars and having fun, etc.

Although i never Ascended into the slayer I wanted to be, my mental health skyrocketed for the better when I focused on making fun memories with people I care about and developing deep relationships.

 

[Deleted member 49008]

I'd say you have until around 29-30 and that is being very generous.
Most guys have lost their collagen and hair by that point and it's utterly pointless to looksmax anymore.

Realistically - if you can - get as many procedures done before you are age 23. You will get to enjoy at least a decade of fun dating life, if your starting point was a recessed goblin.

There is no point saving up money until age 37 and starting looksmaxing and getting surgeries. Might as well rot after that point.
Not only has the guy's brain rotted from decades of loneliness they will have no idea how to approach women or what to say on dating apps.

tldr; Do 'hardmaxes' and costly looks upgrades way, way before you hit 30. Preferably way before you hit 25 years old.
No amount of money in the world matters when it comes to maxing out your youth. 18-26 should be when you form fun dating memories and have a good carefree time with the opposite gender (or same, if that's your thing). You cannot compensate this at an age like 40.

Well said

 

[reputation]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

Every

If you mean fast banana type ascension then it's completely useless. There are no benefits to it and it isn't anything commendable + society doesn't care

 

[Deleted member 41371]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

30

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Men age like fine wine bro

Well you’re supposed to if you’re not a complete subhuman trash
Hahahhaha

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

Most guys saying less than 30 are teens btw. Take it with a pinch of salt. Ascending will help until 45

 

[Deleted member 31887]

Writing a serious answer for you OP

I mean, I know a 27 old who looks much older and not very GL (thin hair, thick facial hair, bad skin, receded hairline) and have a 29 year old friend who looks my age (24) and looks like a mogger. The former looks creepy when going out while the other still has very very high appeal to a 23-25 y/o (21-22 might be creeped out due to age, but tbh he still slays).

Op my advice is continue ascending but shift your focus. Realistically for a ONS it’s pretty much luck if ur not chadlite (assuming we do minimal effort and don’t approach lol). I’ve had nights going out where I was rejected left and right and others where I get approached, it’s so out of your control if ur sub chadlite.

Look I am like an extremely strong MTN but fairly NT and make friends easily — I have a golden retriever esque personality which isnt ideal for slaying but will attract quality/good people into your life. I’ve only slayed only 4 times this year but I’ve had a fuck load of fun memories with my friends to look back on.

Yes slaying is the goal for us all, but please social max (be a yes man…go out, be energetic and happy, and talk to people). Start integrating into social circles and just go with the flow, be observant to how NT people socialize and have fun. I never did this from 18-22 and instead only cared about the idea of being a chad and slaying. I snapped out of it and realized if I don’t start making core memories I will forever have regret.

I’m going to be real, I slayed a LEGIT 9/10 girl (HQNP white girl) when I lost my v card at 21 but it’s no where near as memorable when I look at my picture collection of the festivals/concerts I went to with my friends, celebrating Halloween/NYE, being out together at the bars and having fun, etc.

Although i never Ascended into the slayer I wanted to be, my mental health skyrocketed for the better when I focused on making fun memories with people I care about and developing deep relationships.

Ok, but if you're ugly/autistic then its better to focus on trying to get surgeries or move country. What you are saying is better for normies but not actual bottom of soceity people. For someone who lacks looks + nt they need to basically moneymaxx. If I tried to play the social game I would just be ignored and I would be the elephant in the room.

 

[recessedd]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

67.5

 

[klamus]

Probably about 50 since there is 0 chance you would get a non roastie

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

never too late

 

[It'snotover]

I’m 20, been lookmaxxing since 15

15-16: changed hair texture from straight to slightly curly/wavy, collagen improvement
18-19: gymcelling, body. Ovr improvement
19-20 rhinoplasty, acne scar chemical treatment, leanmaxxing

Subhuman -> MTN basically; frauding I’m HTN

The thing is that if not super happy with my rhinoplasty once the swelling goes (I’m only 6 weeks, at least 3 months needed to see some final results)

I won’t have money for revision till like I’m 23

But the worst part is I will still be ugly and won’t be able to socialmax and get pussy.

When is it too late? AND TELL WHY

Never too late but realistically after 35 it becomes useless because you should be settled by quite some time. You can still slay 23-28 yo girls at 30 and it ain't that bad.

 

[blackpilled I lost]

Men typically peak between 38 and 44 at 45 onwards it's decline

 

[bradpittshairline]

Men typically peak between 38 and 44 at 45 onwards it's decline

Financially not physically.

 

[Oxygen]

19-20 rhinoplasty

How did you deal with your parents? Did you tell them or did you just wait until break and did it with a local surgeon discretely.

Anyway, in terms of surgerymaxxing:

-18-22: Ideal as fuck (social college years - could easily bag a low body count girl or possibly a virgin)
-22-25: Good (still considered objectively young - ok chance of getting a low body countgirl)
-25-27: Ok (Most people will call you young -She will have several bodies unless you decide to date very young)
-28+: Call it a day and buy a fleshlight