At what looks level do you do decent on dating apps

Are you certain you are not overestimating your SMV? I am average height normie (maybe high tier normie) and in the US alone I banged 96 women through OLD within 3-4 years. Not difficult at all. So either I am Chad and I don’t know it or it simply is not as difficult as some people make it up to be

OVERESTIMATING? I just said I don't have ANY SMV as a tall normie. You're telling me im subhuman? Maybe.

That might be the case. I just want the truth whatever it is. I think I'm a normie. Maybe im a fucking burn victim then.
 
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You're gl enough to get a decent looking girl. My guess is your profile is filled with aspie selfies and not enough social proof. Either way, OLD is ass if you're looking for quality women. How is your social circle? Meeting girls through your friends and colleagues mogs.

Yeah bro I was in the military for 4 years and just hung around DUDES ALL DAY.

I will be using my free college though to finish my degree in person so I'll probably try my luck in person in college.

If I still can't find a good girl I'll unironically be a MGTOW incel because there's no way in hell I'm getting with a whore. Not an option.
 
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OVERESTIMATING? I just said I don't have ANY SMV as a tall normie. You're telling me im subhuman? Maybe.

That might be the case. I just want the truth whatever it is. I think I'm a normie. Maybe im a fucking burn victim then.
Ok I misread your post. No I do not think you are subhuman. Never say this shit again. I think you are normie with potential but just a bit too young looking for women to be flocking at you. I know it sucks but give it time you got the whole life in front of yoh.and focus on other things for now, imo.
 
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I am a tall, probably normie facially.

I redownloaded tinder. To my pleasant surprise, i am not incel! I have plenty of landwhales and burn victim women to select from. There's literally not a single human looking female in my likes. On top of that, all the women on tinder are EXTREMELY repulsive. Almost all of them show signs of high bodycount, attention seeking, tattoos, or whore behavior (strong social media presence).

On top of all of this, most of the beckies think it mogs to show them at a party with other men. Because that's what THEY find attractive. Women find men attractive who have plenty of females, men find women who hang with groups of men absolutely repulsive.

Women have ZERO clue what men find attractive. I literally left swipe 85% of the time because none of these girls look innocent, low bodycount, feminine at all.

I don't even see women my age in real life either. Statistically, it's because they are all in college. College is 60% female 40% male. If you live in the middle of nowhere you'll find just boomers and dudes your age because we are in a population decline in the west where there's no young people and the entire country is nursing home tier. The women are in college slutting out.

So basically there's no women, they're all in college being whores, most relationships begin on dating apps but on dating apps all I see is whores and landwhales.

Very confused.

If you're not Chad prepare for a lifetime of loneliness in the west, or just move overseas where the women aren't into this degeneracy.

Im not even ugly. Im just average looking. You look at me facially and think absolutely nothing.

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You aren't trying hard enough. Keep self improving. It's your mindset, bro.
 
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bro you looks like this guy
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Chadlite + tall.
 
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Ok I misread your post. No I do not think you are subhuman. Never say this shit again. I think you are normie with potential but just a bit too young looking for women to be flocking at you. I know it sucks but give it time you got the whole life in front of yoh.and focus on other things for now, imo.

I'm 22 I just look young as fuck for whatever reason probably pheno combined with small jaw.

I will focus on other things thank you bro. The gay part is we as men have a biological IMPERATIVE to chase women. So you're basically just fucking incel in your 20s then suddenly if you're lucky have some appeal in your 30s after you've (painfully as fuck) developed yourself.

I can suffer. Im down for endless suffering. Not a problem. It is a problem actually, but I am down to go to war with it.

I just hope it's possible to succeed. I want to be a good man, successful, have a good wife and kids one day.

If i can't have that? I hope to do something beautiful with my short life that might make up the difference for being the last male in my genetic lineage of billions of years to be a failure.
 
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I'm not bending to meet women's standards. That's extremely cucked. I'd rather die alone with my pride and masculinity as a fucking incel than do the gay shit women "find attractive" and sacrifice my own sanity doing it.

My race is fine. Being mid tier normie is fine. JESUS CHRIST was mid tier normie in the bible. He was also fucking ethnic. I'm half white as well and tall and wide. If I'm still incel because "im ethnic bro!" then women can go fuck themselves. My brother is also half white half asian and his kid HAS BLONDE HAIR AND BRIGHT BLUE EYES.

My hair isn't ideal but like 80% of men experience hairloss at some point so I'm mostly normal.

There's nothing wrong with me. Maybe my personality is a bit flawed and not ideal. I could be bigger, more lean, grow my hair out, look into surgery. I will do all these things.

But women can go fuck themselves. I honestly don't want to even be with a woman that wouldn't accept me as I am right now. I want a woman who would accept me as I am and then I keep improving and she gets to enjoy a dude who improved himself and is now mogging but did it just because he wanted to win at life, not to impress women, although that's a necessary element to winning at life.

Women can go fuck themselves. I don't looksmax for women. I do it for my pride, and because I like winning.
ur such an idiot lol

keep being redpilled brah!!
 
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I am a tall, probably normie facially.

I redownloaded tinder. To my pleasant surprise, i am not incel! I have plenty of landwhales and burn victim women to select from. There's literally not a single human looking female in my likes. On top of that, all the women on tinder are EXTREMELY repulsive. Almost all of them show signs of high bodycount, attention seeking, tattoos, or whore behavior (strong social media presence).

On top of all of this, most of the beckies think it mogs to show them at a party with other men. Because that's what THEY find attractive. Women find men attractive who have plenty of females, men find women who hang with groups of men absolutely repulsive.

Women have ZERO clue what men find attractive. I literally left swipe 85% of the time because none of these girls look innocent, low bodycount, feminine at all.

I don't even see women my age in real life either. Statistically, it's because they are all in college. College is 60% female 40% male. If you live in the middle of nowhere you'll find just boomers and dudes your age because we are in a population decline in the west where there's no young people and the entire country is nursing home tier. The women are in college slutting out.

So basically there's no women, they're all in college being whores, most relationships begin on dating apps but on dating apps all I see is whores and landwhales.

Very confused.

If you're not Chad prepare for a lifetime of loneliness in the west, or just move overseas where the women aren't into this degeneracy.

Im not even ugly. Im just average looking. You look at me facially and think absolutely nothing.

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Why did you get a buzzcut
 
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ur such an idiot lol

keep being redpilled brah!!

There's literally no advantage to thinking any other way than the way I think.

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There's literally no advantage to thinking any other way than the way I think.

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vlackpiled self improvement mogs redpilled improvement hard

having a superiority complex for not “catering to women’s ideals” will get u nowhere
 
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I'm 22 I just look young as fuck for whatever reason probably pheno combined with small jaw.

I will focus on other things thank you bro. The gay part is we as men have a biological IMPERATIVE to chase women. So you're basically just fucking incel in your 20s then suddenly if you're lucky have some appeal in your 30s after you've (painfully as fuck) developed yourself.

I can suffer. Im down for endless suffering. Not a problem. It is a problem actually, but I am down to go to war with it.

I just hope it's possible to succeed. I want to be a good man, successful, have a good wife and kids one day.

If i can't have that? I hope to do something beautiful with my short life that might make up the difference for being the last male in my genetic lineage of billions of years to be a failure.
One of the best posts i've read on this website. Anyone lurking with even half a spine should take some inspiration from this guy.

You're unironically guaranteed to make it in life with a mindset like this.
 
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vlackpiled self improvement mogs redpilled improvement hard

having a superiority complex for not “catering to women’s ideals” will get u nowhere

There's nothing to argue over here. I agree with you.

You don't realize I know more than most of the fucking forum about looksmaxxing. I sleep in my fucking car to save for surgery. It's expensive.

You also don't realize we aren't just creatures of reproduction. We are creatures who chase power and respect. Looking good is the blackpill. How you act is either 1) You want to be liked or 2) You want to be respected.

I want to be both. But without respect your enemies will always try to take what they can from you. I act like a man because im more than just a "good looking" sex object for women.

I'm made for war. You might not be, i am. My ancestors fucking battled for survival, succeeded, and made me. You're just a failure if you don't want to be a man in the way I do. All you understand is redpill vs blackpill in reality it's much deeper than that and I invested in BOTH because I want to succeed.

Im not here to please you. That should be obvious. I'm here to win. I don't give a fuck about "blackpill" bluepill any of it. I just want TO SUCCEED. Whatever it takes. I don't care how many people I have to piss off or enemies I have to make. I need to win.
 
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I'm not even fat. It's mostly masseter hypertrophy which is genetic. I've had over $1000 worth of botox to reduce it but probably need even more.

It's bone structure and masseter muscle. I am getting more lean but I am asian and being "bloated" is an Asian trait unfortunately.

I have an ogee curve at any other angle, though.



I am saving for surgery as well. I know I have some failos. But dude I'm realistically average looking and if it's totally done for me it's totally done for THE MAJORITY of men.

If the majority of men can't succeed then the society inevitably collapses which economically affects EVERYONE including the rich, including Chad, including women. If normies can't win it eventually means everyone suffers.

You are lucky you are a white passing hapa or it will be over
 
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You're gl enough to get a decent looking girl. My guess is your profile is filled with aspie selfies and not enough social proof. Either way, OLD is ass if you're looking for quality women. How is your social circle? Meeting girls through your friends and colleagues mogs.
100% agree with this.
I had the same problem by having an aspie tinder profile.
You can only get away with it if you're on the top percentile of men which we aren't so who gives af.
You've still got potential to level up facially and where you are at rn is good already to not be fucking incel. People like to make fun of this but legit all you need is confidence.
 
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I am a tall, probably normie facially.

I redownloaded tinder. To my pleasant surprise, i am not incel! I have plenty of landwhales and burn victim women to select from. There's literally not a single human looking female in my likes. On top of that, all the women on tinder are EXTREMELY repulsive. Almost all of them show signs of high bodycount, attention seeking, tattoos, or whore behavior (strong social media presence).

On top of all of this, most of the beckies think it mogs to show them at a party with other men. Because that's what THEY find attractive. Women find men attractive who have plenty of females, men find women who hang with groups of men absolutely repulsive.

Women have ZERO clue what men find attractive. I literally left swipe 85% of the time because none of these girls look innocent, low bodycount, feminine at all.

I don't even see women my age in real life either. Statistically, it's because they are all in college. College is 60% female 40% male. If you live in the middle of nowhere you'll find just boomers and dudes your age because we are in a population decline in the west where there's no young people and the entire country is nursing home tier. The women are in college slutting out.

So basically there's no women, they're all in college being whores, most relationships begin on dating apps but on dating apps all I see is whores and landwhales.

Very confused.

If you're not Chad prepare for a lifetime of loneliness in the west, or just move overseas where the women aren't into this degeneracy.

Im not even ugly. Im just average looking. You look at me facially and think absolutely nothing.

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probably aspie looking dating profile
 
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Never used these apps but my friend has and he’s a mogger irl gets multiple girls per night but does shit with these, gets few matches and the replies are like one per day…

Girls just use these apps for validation.
 
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covered in tats, way more money, probably better looking, have more life experience, more social connections, more job skills, and these women will have NOTHING to offer just a broken mind, used up body, and baggage for ME to mentally carry.
You can't be covered in tattoos and have more social connects due to tattoos being a sign of delinquency.You're not going to be able to acquire any kind of big business if you look you just got out of prison...
 
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You can't be covered in tattoos and have more social connects due to tattoos being a sign of delinquency.You're not going to be able to acquire any kind of big business if you look you just got out of prison...

My tattoos are from the military not prison.
 
You are lucky you are a white passing hapa or it will be over

Yes tbh but that's only because the west is full of the absolute worst quality women who are NOT fit to be mothers, wives, or anything. These women are fit to be sluts until they are old and ugly then they are useless. They have nothing to offer except their body because they have horrible personalities and they're all secretly racist and every horrible trait.

Every man should move overseas to a country with traditional values. Traditional countries require masculine men so you'll have to improve yourself (which is a good thing), but you'll meet feminine low bodycount women in theory which mogs to suicide the entitled evil whores in the west.

Race probably matters less in other countries. It could even go BACKWARDS where women want ethnic men. That's often the case.
 
I am a tall, probably normie facially.

I redownloaded tinder. To my pleasant surprise, i am not incel! I have plenty of landwhales and burn victim women to select from. There's literally not a single human looking female in my likes. On top of that, all the women on tinder are EXTREMELY repulsive. Almost all of them show signs of high bodycount, attention seeking, tattoos, or whore behavior (strong social media presence).

On top of all of this, most of the beckies think it mogs to show them at a party with other men. Because that's what THEY find attractive. Women find men attractive who have plenty of females, men find women who hang with groups of men absolutely repulsive.

Women have ZERO clue what men find attractive. I literally left swipe 85% of the time because none of these girls look innocent, low bodycount, feminine at all.

I don't even see women my age in real life either. Statistically, it's because they are all in college. College is 60% female 40% male. If you live in the middle of nowhere you'll find just boomers and dudes your age because we are in a population decline in the west where there's no young people and the entire country is nursing home tier. The women are in college slutting out.

So basically there's no women, they're all in college being whores, most relationships begin on dating apps but on dating apps all I see is whores and landwhales.

Very confused.

If you're not Chad prepare for a lifetime of loneliness in the west, or just move overseas where the women aren't into this degeneracy.

Im not even ugly. Im just average looking. You look at me facially and think absolutely nothing.

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Idk if that’s decent but I have on average 1 slay per month directly from tinder, a lot of ghosting tho
 
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Almost no one get anything on dating app either way, and finding innocent girls on Tinder is close to impossible unless you catch her minutes after she just downloaded the app for the first time.

I've come to the conclusion that it doesnt matter if my future wife is a virgin or not. IF she has had an active profile on tinder or any dating app at all shes for the streets. And it pains me to say that because many decent shy girls get on tinder and if they dont snap out early enough they will be riding a dragon dildo saying uwu a few months later.
 
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Almost no one get anything on dating app either way, and finding innocent girls on Tinder is close to impossible unless you catch her minutes after she just downloaded the app for the first time.

I've come to the conclusion that it doesnt matter if my future wife is a virgin or not. IF she has had an active profile on tinder or any dating app at all shes for the streets. And it pains me to say that because many decent shy girls get on tinder and if they dont snap out early enough they will be riding a dragon dildo saying uwu a few months later.

Yeah bro. These women do NOT want a husband they want to USE a man for his resources and somehow made themselves think that THEY are the prize when in reality men are the prize because they bring everything to the table. A man has to be better looking, taller, more money, more confident, older, more entertaining than the girl and she just has to EXIST. Men bring everything to the table to the point where women can't even do the bare minimum and just not be a whore.

If i could I would remove the programming in my brain that even makes me attracted to women. I quite literally hate them. But because I can't, i have to endure the whores and move overseas somewhere.
 
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Yeah bro. These women do NOT want a husband they want to USE a man for his resources and somehow made themselves think that THEY are the prize when in reality men are the prize because they bring everything to the table. A man has to be better looking, taller, more money, more confident, older, more entertaining than the girl and she just has to EXIST. Men bring everything to the table to the point where women can't even do the bare minimum and just not be a whore.

If i could I would remove the programming in my brain that even makes me attracted to women. I quite literally hate them. But because I can't, i have to endure the whores and move overseas somewhere.
I agree, an it's the evolutionary biology that is too strong to deny by anyone.
 
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Yeah bro. These women do NOT want a husband they want to USE a man for his resources and somehow made themselves think that THEY are the prize when in reality men are the prize because they bring everything to the table. A man has to be better looking, taller, more money, more confident, older, more entertaining than the girl and she just has to EXIST. Men bring everything to the table to the point where women can't even do the bare minimum and just not be a whore.

If i could I would remove the programming in my brain that even makes me attracted to women. I quite literally hate them. But because I can't, i have to endure the whores and move overseas somewhere.
Same
 
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I am a tall, probably normie facially.

I redownloaded tinder. To my pleasant surprise, i am not incel! I have plenty of landwhales and burn victim women to select from. There's literally not a single human looking female in my likes. On top of that, all the women on tinder are EXTREMELY repulsive. Almost all of them show signs of high bodycount, attention seeking, tattoos, or whore behavior (strong social media presence).

On top of all of this, most of the beckies think it mogs to show them at a party with other men. Because that's what THEY find attractive. Women find men attractive who have plenty of females, men find women who hang with groups of men absolutely repulsive.

Women have ZERO clue what men find attractive. I literally left swipe 85% of the time because none of these girls look innocent, low bodycount, feminine at all.

I don't even see women my age in real life either. Statistically, it's because they are all in college. College is 60% female 40% male. If you live in the middle of nowhere you'll find just boomers and dudes your age because we are in a population decline in the west where there's no young people and the entire country is nursing home tier. The women are in college slutting out.

So basically there's no women, they're all in college being whores, most relationships begin on dating apps but on dating apps all I see is whores and landwhales.

Very confused.

If you're not Chad prepare for a lifetime of loneliness in the west, or just move overseas where the women aren't into this degeneracy.

Im not even ugly. Im just average looking. You look at me facially and think absolutely nothing.

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You guys act like whites shouldn’t be doing well on dating apps. If your white and your tinder isn’t on 99+ within under a week you are sub 5
 
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Depends on what you count as “decent”

Also, what else did u expect from women on tinder lol
 
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location.

you live in the fattest most liberated country in the entire world.

date in a country that is less fat and less liberated
 
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HTN.
 
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Can i see a frontal pic of your face
 
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Yes tbh but that's only because the west is full of the absolute worst quality women who are NOT fit to be mothers, wives, or anything. These women are fit to be sluts until they are old and ugly then they are useless. They have nothing to offer except their body because they have horrible personalities and they're all secretly racist and every horrible trait.

Every man should move overseas to a country with traditional values. Traditional countries require masculine men so you'll have to improve yourself (which is a good thing), but you'll meet feminine low bodycount women in theory which mogs to suicide the entitled evil whores in the west.

Race probably matters less in other countries. It could even go BACKWARDS where women want ethnic men. That's often the case.
Yeah I agree tbh. Im going to EE to get a slavic stacey. They are basically budget white women. Even getting a femcel in the west is hard now. Still brutal for hapas tbh. I would trade my hapa pheno for nordic or north atlantid any day
 
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I think MTN is when you can start to do good on OLD
 
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Are you certain you are not overestimating your SMV? I am average height normie (maybe high tier normie) and in the US alone I banged 96 women through OLD within 3-4 years. Not difficult at all. So either I am Chad and I don’t know it or it simply is not as difficult as some people make it up to be
Thats depends which level of girls you go for. I can easily rack my body count with whales and femcels.
If i could I would remove the programming in my brain that even makes me attracted to women. I quite literally hate them. But because I can't, i have to endure the whores and move overseas somewhere.
Dont complain about women on tinder. Tinder is hook up app. If u want high quality bitch u better hang out in a library.
 
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Thats depends which level of girls you go for. I can easily rack my body count with whales and femcels.

Dont complain about women on tinder. Tinder is hook up app. If u want high quality bitch u better hang out in a library.
It’s not your high standards that prevent you from slaying. It’s your SMV. Trust me on that. And no I don’t slay femcels and fatties
 
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It’s not your high standards that prevent you from slaying. It’s your SMV. Trust me on that. And no I don’t slay femcels and fatties
its both. Im not slayer but i get sex occasionally. My friend lowered his standarts and has high bodycount, on looks we used to be about the same but to be fair hes way more nt
 
My tattoos are from the military not prison.
You said your going to get more later on in life correct?If so.Alot of people are not going to want to due business deals with you...
 

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