At what point are you too robust?

[lilhorizontal32]

Was looking at some photos of MM Christopher Pfeffer and started to wonder if only .org users whose minds have been corrupted by PSL find these guys to be chads or if women irl would find this type of robustness to be ideal.

and if so, at what point does the robustness go from aesthetic to ogre-tier? both from a PSL perspective (guessing it would be like Dolph Lundgren-tier jfl) and more importantly, what you guys think would be ideal amount of robustness for irl appeal to women (this is what I'm not so sure about)

Also for reference, Christopher Pfeffer: (is he too robust?)

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

the chin is ideally 2.5 of philtrum and ideal gonial angle is 120(?). so if the chin is too long and the gonial angle is still low thats too robust imo

 

[khvirgin]

I don't think that's too robust, but I also don't think women would find him more appealing than someone with softer features, nowadays prettyboys dominate
When I think of too robust I think of people like John Turk, who looks kinda cartoonish

 

[AutisticBeaner]

bones are never too big, his problem is the positioning of his bones (downward growth, as always).

 

[StrangerDanger]

 

[khvirgin]

bones are never too big, his problem is the positioning of his bones (downward growth, as always).

 

[AutisticBeaner]

yea same thing. his jaw looks bigger than it is because of the lack of cheekbones

 

[StrangerDanger]

it looks like overdeveloped masseters and not bones judging by its roundness

 

[Frank Jack]

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[Lars]

how much bf is this

 

[Deleted member 11770]

Something like this ideal, somewhat robust without looking comical

 

[lilhorizontal32]

the chin is ideally 2.5 of philtrum and ideal gonial angle is 120(?). so if the chin is too long and the gonial angle is still low thats too robust imo

these ratios arent perfect though

many people have chin to philtrum ratios from 2.5 - 3 and look great, and gigachads like cavill & chris carmack have gonial angles much smaller than 120

 

[lilhorizontal32]

I don't think that's too robust, but I also don't think women would find him more appealing than someone with softer features, nowadays prettyboys dominate
When I think of too robust I think of people like John Turk, who looks kinda cartoonish

I agree. but I'm wondering if women would find him too robust

 

[lilhorizontal32]

bones are never too big, his problem is the positioning of his bones (downward growth, as always).

christopher pfeffer is not downward grown jfl

the guy is legit a male model with insane forward growth

 

[lilhorizontal32]

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his ramus is too long imo

 

[lilhorizontal32]

it looks like overdeveloped masseters and not bones judging by its roundness

yeah and also extremely low gonial angle. somewhere around 95 I'm guessing

 

[lilhorizontal32]

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looks ok to me. maybe a bit uncanny but I think its because of his massive skull

 

[lilhorizontal32]

View attachment 1240757how much bf is this

I'd guess somewhere between 8-10%

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Something like this ideal, somewhat robust without looking comical

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he looks a bit off if you ask me, but that might be because of the rest of his face. he seems to have a recessed maxilla

 

[Lars]

I'd guess somewhere between 8-10%

my goal next summer

 

[Deleted member 11770]

he looks a bit off if you ask me, but that might be because of the rest of his face. he seems to have a recessed maxilla

Yeah his maxilla is recessed, still has a great front tho and good orbital support