Atheists are so fucking annoying

Are you saying there ought to be a deeper meaning behind anything that exists?
Precisely.

There is this quote in the finishing scene of a great TV series called True Detective.

"Well, once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."

For me, that's God.

We can play around with the semantics of words such as nothingness/existence forever. All I know is that instead of blank nothingness, here we are, discovering (as a human species) complex concepts that help us decipher our reality (physics, quantum mechanics, mathematics), yet all of them fail to explain why the fuck we have to even discover them in the first place.
 
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Shithole north caucasus taken over by sandnigger religion and who is controlled by russia.
Are Chechens white or crypto whites like russians?
 
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Makes no sense, look at north korea no religion and no degeneracy. Stop with the bullshit.
The Kim dynasty have become the gods

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what a low IQ question, we are caucasians. we have whites and brown
Some many russians have gook admixture, I wanted to know if that was the case with Chechnya as well.
 
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Ah, makes sense you think this way since you view life from a nihilistic, lifeless manner.
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Precisely
There is this quote in the finishing scene of a great TV series called True Detective.

"Well, once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."

For me, that's God.

We can play around with the semantics of words such as nothingness/existence forever. All I know is that instead of blank nothingness, here we are, discovering (as a human species) complex concepts that help us decipher our reality (physics, quantum mechanics, mathematics), yet all of them fail to explain why the fuck we have to even discover them in the first place.
For the advancement of the human race. To stand as a beacon of light against the abyss that is the universe. Clarify the universe. God is clarity, we create and invent concepts and tools(progress) to acheive clarity(understanding) of the universe. That's the why I have. We should look at each other as a rallying point, not a third party that takes all the credit for all we've done.

Not to reject what you're saying, just sharing what I think.
 
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Some many russians have gook admixture, I wanted to know if that was the case with Chechnya as well.
Oh thats what you meant, i mean yes of course alot of humans are mixed and we have mixed chechens and ingush aswell we have clans too.

But most arent mixed like russians.
 
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ok u believe in god fair enough, but what are we to do with this existence he supposedly blessed us with? worship him in hopes of being rewarded an eternal life in heaven right? that’s the end goal of belief for everyone or am i wrong?
 
Even if you don't believe in religion its the best tool to keep women and society in check and away from degeneracy. Look at what is happening to the west since people stopped seeing religion as the authority.
100%.
Women will accept being tamed by only chad and God. Everyone else = over
 
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From back when I was muslim I know how cringy atheists like this are. That's why I rarely if ever talk about the fact that im atheist irl
 
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Are you fucking retarded he doesn't have to prove shit that's not how it works. If I claim there's a flying horse that orbits another planet you think it'd be fair for me to say you have no evidence to disprove its existence either after i claim it exists and you question me by saying there's no evidence for it. No it's not fucking fair because the burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim that something exists. Wtf this is basic iq stuff how can someone be this retarded.
 
Atheists are the worst type of people you can encounter. Very arrogants and full of themselves. I hope god will make them suffer for not believing in him.
 
Technically he is right. Since the burden of proof is in someone who claims something.

Works the same way for everything else in life so why not this?
It depends on the context.

For example if you are trying to assert God exists then the burden of proof is on you to prove he does exist.

If you are trying to assert God doesn't exist then the burden of proof is on the atheist.

Another problem is atheists will oscillate between definitions. On the one hand they will claim "I just don't believe in God", and on the other hand they will make the claim God doesn't exist. Seems like a small difference but in the context of a discussion it does make a difference, and those militant atheists will make sure to hop back and forth between such definitions depending on which is convienent.
 
Atheists are the worst type of people you can encounter. Very arrogants and full of themselves. I hope god will make them suffer for not believing in him.
Do you hear yourself?? If this god exists and is a just one with a good sense of judgment do you think he will punish people for simply being rational and questioning the existence of something that has no evidence. The least this God could do is manifest itself if it's going to punish those who dont think he's real. He's going to make people suffer because they're using their brains and not believing something with no evidence? Are they really the ones who deserve to suffer? Wow that's a really fair way for your God to operate, he sounds like a childish petty and narcissistic prick. Imagine living your life as a slave worshipping this God.
 
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Do you hear yourself?? If this god exists and is a just one with a good sense of judgment do you think he will punish people for simply being rational and questioning the existence of something that has no evidence. The least this God could do is manifest itself if it's going to punish those who dont think he's real. He's going to make people suffer because they're using their brains and not believing something with no evidence? Are they really the ones who deserve to suffer? Wow that's a really fair way for your God to operate, he sounds like a childish petty and narcissistic prick. Imagine living your life as a slave worshipping this God.
"No evidence".

Who are you to say there is no evidence. Many people consider certain things to be evidence of a God. Just because that evidence doesn't convince you doesn't mean there is no evidence at all.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

 
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It depends on the context.

For example if you are trying to assert God exists then the burden of proof is on you to prove he does exist.

If you are trying to assert God doesn't exist then the burden of proof is on the atheist.

Another problem is atheists will oscillate between definitions. On the one hand they will claim "I just don't believe in God", and on the other hand they will make the claim God doesn't exist. Seems like a small difference but in the context of a discussion it does make a difference, and those militant atheists will make sure to hop back and forth between such definitions depending on which is convienent.
Also @Baldingman1998 wanna respond to this debunking of your retarded argument or you just gonna sidestep like a little bitch?
 
"No evidence".

Who are you to say there is no evidence. Many people consider certain things to be evidence of a God. Just because that evidence doesn't convince you doesn't mean there is no evidence at all.

Psalm 19:1

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Lol this guy just quoted the bible to me :LOL::LOL::LOL:

"Certain things to be evidence of a god"

And what would that be? Tell me and I can explain to you how none of that is real evidence of god and they don't necessarily need to be. What are you going to give me, the god of the gaps? Saying the universe needs to have a cause but excusing god from that and assuming that cause needs to be a god and not the countless other possibilties?
 
Just tell them science was created in religious societies by religious men
 
Lol this guy just quoted the bible to me :LOL::LOL::LOL:

"Certain things to be evidence of a god"

And what would that be? Tell me and I can explain to you how none of that is real evidence of god and they don't necessarily need to be. What are you going to give me, the god of the gaps? Saying the universe needs to have a cause but excusing god from that and assuming that cause needs to be a god and not the countless other possibilties?
If you say the universe doesn't have a cause, you agree it can be infinite, correct?

Which means God could be infinite.

Furthermore, what about life? Do you believe that life can be formed from random particles combining to make some amoeba, which somehow evolves into apes and then humans? That has never been confirmed to be possible.
 
Are you fucking retarded he doesn't have to prove shit that's not how it works. If I claim there's a flying horse that orbits another planet you think it'd be fair for me to say you have no evidence to disprove its existence either after i claim it exists and you question me by saying there's no evidence for it. No it's not fucking fair because the burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim that something exists. Wtf this is basic iq stuff how can someone be this retarded.
Not how it works, there is no reason to believe that there is a flying horse that orbits another planet, it's a completely baseless claim to begin with. There is however good reason to believe that there is a God. Look up the Kalam cosmological argument, contingency argument, fine-tuning, etc. The best explanation for the universe is that it has a creator.

Atheists are the most pseudo-intellectual people on the planet, they think they're woke and high-IQ but are actually completely inconsistent and the vast majority of them don't understand the basics of formal reasoning and modal logic
 
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If you say the universe doesn't have a cause, you agree it can be infinite, correct?

Which means God could be infinite.

Furthermore, what about life? Do you believe that life can be formed from random particles combining to make some amoeba, which somehow evolves into apes and then humans? That has never been confirmed to be possible.
I'm not saying it doesn't have a cause, did I say that? What I mean is why does that cause need to be a god? At best this is a hypothesis and a very ignorant and lazy one, out of all the other hypotheses, and you're trying to make this an absolute fact. It's quite probably the weakest of the hypotheses, the universe doesn't look like it comes from intelligent design if you study it, nor is there anything about it that indicates that it can only have come about from supernatural forces. What, you think there is a god because we simply exist? You think there's a God because the universe just came into existence? Why jump to that conclusion simply because we're here? And why is how life came to be as far as science knows any less likely than a God? This is way too complex for them to figure out, just like they didn't know a lot of things and now they do. You don't need to fill that gap with a God let alone talk about it as if it's a fact.
 
Not how it works, there is no reason to believe that there is a flying horse that orbits another planet, it's a completely baseless claim to begin with. There is however good reason to believe that there is a God. Look up the Kalam cosmological argument, contingency argument, fine-tuning, etc. The best explanation for the universe is that it has a creator.

Atheists are the most pseudo-intellectual people on the planet, they think they're woke and high-IQ but are actually completely inconsistent and the vast majority of them don't understand the basics of formal reasoning and modal logic
There doesn't need to be a intelligent creator either except for he fact that humans have his deluded sense of importance and can't come to terms that death is the absolute end of it so they came up with this god that will give them eternal life. It's absolutely not the best explanation for the universe, maybe for an ignorant person. :)
 
And why is how life came to be as far as science knows any less likely than a God? This is way too complex for them to figure out, just like they didn't know a lot of things and now they do. You don't need to fill that gap with a God let alone talk about it as if it's a fact.
Science doesnt anything about the cause of life, they come up with a stupid theory which has never been demontrated to be even remotely possible.
 
Science doesnt anything about the cause of life, they come up with a stupid theory which has never been demontrated to be even remotely possible.
And you do? Again, why fill that gap with god? Because that's what makes the most sense to you as part of a single living species on a single planet that is a mere speck of dust in the universe? You simply cannot apply concepts and logic of the human intellect to something as complex as the "creation" of the universe. Please stop thinking the universe was made for us because it really wasn't. You are free to believe in god and any fairy tale you want but don't talk about it as if it's a fact or something that's any more likely than all the other possibilties as to how we're here.
 
And you do? Again, why fill that gap with god? Because that's what makes the most sense to you as part of a single living species on a single planet that is a mere speck of dust in the universe? You simply cannot apply concepts and logic of the human intellect to something as complex as the "creation" of the universe.
Because life is complex and it only makes sense that the human genome (and really even the genome of animals), would have a creator.

It's occam's razor.
Please stop thinking the universe was made for us because it really wasn't. You are free to believe in god and any fairy tale you want but don't talk about it as if it's a fact or something that's any more likely than all the other possibilties as to how we're here.
Why should I? I see no benefit in believing it's all a cosmic accident.
 
There doesn't need to be a intelligent creator either except for he fact that humans have his deluded sense of importance and can't come to terms that death is the absolute end of it so they came up with this god that will give them eternal life. It's absolutely not the best explanation for the universe, maybe for an ignorant person. :)

Just your low-IQ assertion and nothing more. Form an argument.


P1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause
P2. The universe began to exist
C. The universe has a cause

There are properties of this causer that are necessary in order for it to be able to cause the universe:

- Will and intention: The causer needs to have an intention and will to cause the universe, if not, then the universe would never have been created. Why would this causer create the universe rather than not? It must have decided to create it, thus entailing intention and will, otherwise there would be no universe and nothing would change ad-infinitum.
- Power and intelligence: It needs to have the power and knowhow to cause the universe, otherwise it wouldn't be capable of causing/creating it, this doesn't need further explanation.

This "causer" is what we call God, and he holds those attributes amongst others. God IS the best explanation we have for the universe, and as rational agents we accept the best explanation.

Your "muh religion is just cope for people scared of death!! :feelsuhh:" is the average low-IQ atheist assertion with no substance from people unable to form coherent thoughts :lul:
 
Your "muh religion is just cope for people scared of death!! :feelsuhh:" is the average low-IQ atheist assertion with no substance from people unable to form coherent thoughts
The real cope is atheism, they wanna believe they won't be raped by demons in a dark fiery pit of burning sulfur for all eternity.
 
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Just your low-IQ assertion and nothing more. Form an argument.


P1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause
P2. The universe began to exist
C. The universe has a cause

There are properties of this causer that are necessary in order for it to be able to cause the universe:

- Will and intention: The causer needs to have an intention and will to cause the universe, if not, then the universe would never have been created. Why would this causer create the universe rather than not? It must have decided to create it, thus entailing intention and will, otherwise there would be no universe and nothing would change ad-infinitum.
- Power and intelligence: It needs to have the power and knowhow to cause the universe, otherwise it wouldn't be capable of causing/creating it, this doesn't need further explanation.

This "causer" is what we call God, and he holds those attributes amongst others. God IS the best explanation we have for the universe, and as rational agents we accept the best explanation.

Your "muh religion is just cope for people scared of death!! :feelsuhh:" is the average low-IQ atheist assertion with no substance from people unable to form coherent thoughts :lul:
Lmao typical delusional religious people arguments filled with contradictions and philosophical ramblings in an attempt to prove something that's simply unprovable as an absolute fact. I truly pity you my guy and will not even bother any further. Watch this if you have the time and intellect to understand it, and maybe see what all of your logic (or lack thereof) doesn't make as much sense as you think it does.



Good day. :)
 
Lmao typical delusional religious people arguments filled with contradictions and philosophical ramblings in an attempt to prove something that's simply unprovable as an absolute fact. I truly pity you my guy and will not even bother any further. Watch this if you have the time and intellect to understand it, and maybe see what all of your logic (or lack thereof) doesn't make as much sense as you think it does.



Good day. :)

Oh no he posted some atheist youtuber!!!!!
 
The real cope is atheism, they wanna believe they won't be raped by demons in a dark fiery pit of burning sulfur for all eternity.
This is actually true. There was a big survey of ex-muslims and the majority of them cited materialist reasons for leaving Islam, not actual theological or intellectual issues. They just wanted to fornicate and drink so they left religion to cope by deluding themselves into thinking they weren't going to pay for it
 
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Lmao typical delusional religious people arguments filled with contradictions and philosophical ramblings in an attempt to prove something that's simply unprovable as an absolute fact. I truly pity you my guy and will not even bother any further. Watch this if you have the time and intellect to understand it, and maybe see what all of your logic (or lack thereof) doesn't make as much sense as you think it does.



Good day. :)

low-IQ atheist can't respond to an argument so he links 50 minute video of atheist monkey and runs away thinking he achieved something JFLLLL :lul:
 
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Because life is complex and it only makes sense that the human genome (and really even the genome of animals), would have a creator.

It's occam's razor.

Why should I? I see no benefit in believing it's all a cosmic accident.
No benefit? Lmao you think it can't be this way because it doesn't benefit you? Because you dont want it to be that way? Lmao do you people not hear yourselves when you're trying to defend the existence of your imaginary friend? You are so fucking pathetic lmao. Seek help.
 
Religioncels are even more delusional than trannies
 
low-IQ atheist can't respond to an argument so he links 50 minute video of atheist monkey and runs away thinking he achieved something JFLLLL :lul:
You are delusional. Not only are you trying to dictate how the universe came about by using concepts like the chair I sit on had a designer so the universe did too but you also have this deluded sense of importance and think the universe was made for you and the thing that created it all is so heavily invested in a single species of an insignificant single planet. I cannot feel anyhing but pity for your people.
 
No benefit? Lmao you think it can't be this way because it doesn't benefit you? Because you dont want it to be that way? Lmao do you people not hear yourselves when you're trying to defend the existence of your imaginary friend? You are so fucking pathetic lmao. Seek help.
Go reread all your replies in this thread and try to find me a single actual argument that you made. All you retards know how to do is say shit like "bro you actually believe that? you're so dumb :feelsuhh:" "bro religion is just cope for fear of death :feelsuhh:" "bro I pity you :soy::feelsuhh:" "bro you actually think god cares about you :feelsuhh::soy:" Low-IQ assertions with no substance. You would fail a middle school intro to philosophy class
 
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No benefit? Lmao you think it can't be this way because it doesn't benefit you? Because you dont want it to be that way? Lmao do you people not hear yourselves when you're trying to defend the existence of your imaginary friend? You are so fucking pathetic lmao. Seek help.
I believe this way because it makes sense to believe this way. You're the one using strawmans here.

Atheists are the ones who don't want to think that not having faith will cost them their souls.
 
This is actually true. There was a big survey of ex-muslims and the majority of them cited materialist reasons for leaving Islam, not actual theological or intellectual issues. They just wanted to fornicate and drink so they left religion to cope by deluding themselves into thinking they weren't going to pay for it
Link to survey btw? It makes sense but I just wanna see the evidence for it.
 
Go reread all your replies in this thread and try to find me a single actual argument that you made. All you retards know how to do is say shit like "bro you actually believe that? you're so dumb :feelsuhh:" "bro religion is just cope for fear of death :feelsuhh:" "bro I pity you :soy::feelsuhh:" "bro you actually think god cares about you :feelsuhh::soy:" Low-IQ assertions with no substance. You would fail a middle school intro to philosophy class
I have presented tons of arguments. It's just that you and your people are so pathetic and delusional that I can't help but throw these in. You are trying to refute me by saying there IS evidence for your imaginary friend by throwing a bunch of pseudo philosophical ramblings around and using arguments like "will" and "intuition". Do you even know how presenting evidence works? Do you know what evidence means?
 
Link to survey btw? It makes sense but I just wanna see the evidence for it.

They didn't directly cite the materialist reasons as their reason for leaving because they were given multiple choice answers and the organizers of the study didn't include that as an option. But if you read the whole study, it's clear what their motivation was. Go on page 14 and JFL the MAJORITY of these ex-"muslims" used to drink alcohol and fornicate. The majority also didn't pray the required prayers.
 
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I have presented tons of arguments. It's just that you and your people are so pathetic and delusional that I can't help but throw these in. You are trying to refute me by saying there IS evidence for your imaginary friend by throwing a bunch of pseudo philosophical ramblings around and using arguments like "will" and "intuition". Do you even know how presenting evidence works? Do you know what evidence means?
You haven't presented a single argument, even in this reply you failed to present an argument. Show me a single argument you presented, should be easy since you presented "tons"

Do you even know what an argument is? Do you understand what deductive and inductive reasoning is? All you do is hand-wave and say "this is dumb" "this is pseudo-philosophical" "you're delusional" without giving any actual counterargument. And then you link a 50 minute video of some retard speaking JFLL :lul:
 
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