Attractive to the Male Gaze but Not Sufficient With Female Gaze

[True.Nelts]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

ogre in a good way

 

[True.Nelts]

ogre in a good way

I don't give off ogre phenotype though?

 

[starvemaxxkingkong]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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its because you have psl and not appeal

 

[tastas]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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jbg

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

I don't give off ogre phenotype though?

you have high dimo

 

[True.Nelts]

its because you have psl and not appeal

So how can I garner appeal? Appeal should be way easier to enhance than PSL.

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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maybe you just arent lucky dude

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

So how can I garner appeal? Appeal should be way easier to enhance than PSL.

hes joking

 

[tastas]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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lowk, at ur rating and height there should be no reason why you dont attract women that i can really think of, maybe personality or you dont talk to enough women

 

[True.Nelts]

maybe you just arent lucky dude

I guess? Are people lying to me about my rating?

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

I guess? Are people lying to me about my rating?

nah

 

[True.Nelts]

lowk, at ur rating and height there should be no reason why you dont attract women that i can really think of, maybe personality or you dont talk to enough women

Perhaps i'm just going up to the wrong women (Mudsharks/Ghetto pheno enjoyers)-- that's probably it, though, there's a shit ton of those in college.

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

I guess? Are people lying to me about my rating?

lhtn

 

[True.Nelts]

nah

Appreciate it. Sick page btw-- shooting a follow.

 

[Bricks228]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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Just fly to Korea, to a Korean doctor, so that he can cut down your bones, and from psl you will become an appeal, you will be a sex symbol of Korea

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

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Perhaps i'm just going up to the wrong women (Mudsharks/Ghetto pheno enjoyers)-- that's probably it, though, there's a shit ton of those in college.

maybe intimidated by your high dimo or dont do it in a bar they are drunk so agressive

 

[True.Nelts]

Just fly to Korea, to a Korean doctor, so that he can cut down your bones, and from psl you will become an appeal, you will be a sex symbol of Korea

Until I become older & the pretty-boy pheno fucks you. I'm also studying to be a lawyer so need the bone mass to intimidate

 

[Ascension_incoming]

would suggest other haircut and lip filler

 

[True.Nelts]

maybe intimidated by your high dimo or dont do it in a bar they are drunk so agressive

I believe the gym foids are my calling

 

[True.Nelts]

would suggest other haircut and lip filler

Play rugby so sadly lip filler is a no-go. Any softmax besides brushing? The effect wears off too quickly.

 

[Bricks228]

Until I become older & the pretty-boy pheno fucks you. I'm also studying to be a lawyer so need the bone mass to intimidate

Bro, what if the judge is a girl? You have zero chance of winning

 

[Ascension_incoming]

Play rugby so sadly lip filler is a no-go. Any softmax besides brushing? The effect wears off too quickly.

nah not really but you look good enough to get girls and damn mirin the physique

 

[gandalfthegrey]

try something with your hair

 

[Punished Soygoy]

Maybe you are just fucking autistic

 

[True.Nelts]

Maybe you are just fucking autistic

The addy fixes that

 

[True.Nelts]

try something with your hair

Here was me last night at bar w/ hair texturing & concealer recessed infras softmax

 

[True.Nelts]

Bump

 

[gandalfthegrey]

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Here was me last night at bar w/ hair texturing & concealer recessed infras softmax

maybe a short cut can suit you

 

[True.Nelts]

maybe a short cut can suit you

Sadly hairline cooked-- working on it tho

 

[True.Nelts]

I post a story like this on snap and don't even get swipe-ups/replies JFL

 

[True.Nelts]

bump

 

[Szpont]

I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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Get a lip filler its cheap and is the fastes wat to ascend for you

 

[True.Nelts]

Get a lip filler its cheap and is the fastes wat to ascend for you

I really dont think this problem would change from a change in lips tbf especially with me being white

 

[True.Nelts]

bump. need answers

 

[True.Nelts]

bumpity bump bump

 

[True.Nelts]

bumpity bump bump x2

 

[poreskin]

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I have been consistently rated on .org & Discord within the HMTN-LHTN range on average. In-person I am complimented frequently regarding my jawline & physique by men.

For example, I decided to go to a college bar last night within a college town in the Midwest alone as I am not from the area. At the bar(s), I was approached by numerous straight, good-looking men looking to include me in their groups & endeavors. I asked numerous groups about the women at the college & they said I mog 90% of the dudes within the bar scene and that I would be able to get with any girl i went up to. However, when I approached them they were either disinterested and or aggressive.

Why is it that I am claimed societally good-looking by men but not reciprocated to the same extent with women? Even my older coworkers @ my internship said I am good looking. It makes 0 sense. I used to be ND but recently my adderall script has made me quite NT. I am also 6'0 barefoot, 6'2 height-frauded-- so it cannot be stature?

TLDR: Why do men & overall society deem me to be attractive but women I go up to not parallel that reaction?

These pictures/video are of me this morning hungover & with no shower, daily softmaxxing, or angle frauding



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lip filler

 

[True.Nelts]

l

lip filler

That def wouldn't change this

 

[edodalicreturns]

I really dont think this problem would change from a change in lips tbf especially with me being white

Girls are trying to ego u , i made a thread about this but even if u got lip filler maybe it will add 0.5 points but that still wont cause girls to instantly start approaching you or getting chad treatment . Id say your a solid HTN which is good enough with physique halo

 

[True.Nelts]

Girls are trying to ego u , i made a thread about this but even if u got lip filler maybe it will add 0.5 points but that still wont cause girls to instantly start approaching you or getting chad treatment . Id say your a solid HTN which is good enough with physique halo

How & where can I slay then? it's ridiculous to see these LTNS manlets killing it at college bars. Will read your post as well.

 

[True.Nelts]

BUMP

 

[wherearewegoing]

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Here was me last night at bar w/ hair texturing & concealer recessed infras softmax

If you can’t get pussy looking like that then the addy is not working like you think it is lol. You probably give off creeper vibes, girls are intuitive, they pick up on that shit honestly

 

[Whatever]

My experiences aren’t quite like yours however we have a similar flaw, I have the same thing with too much nose and not enough lips. My lips look like yours and in my case it’s from my teeth tilting inwards to compensate for malocclusion. And ortho and surgery would fix this.

You have a great chin, low body fat bone definition, and good overall harmony, however jaw recession can be hidden on some faces. So I recommend getting your bite looked at, if there’s a problem then fix that, if not then lip filler and maybe a rhinoplasty.

 

[True.Nelts]

If you can’t get pussy looking like that then the addy is not working like you think it is lol. You probably give off creeper vibes, girls are intuitive, they pick up on that shit honestly

What do i do then? I say it works because my interactions with guys & people in other social settings (restaurant, retail store, gas station) always respect me, smile, & give me free stuff.

 

[True.Nelts]

My experiences aren’t quite like yours however we have a similar flaw, I have the same thing with too much nose and not enough lips. My lips look like yours and in my case it’s from my teeth tilting inwards to compensate for malocclusion. And ortho and surgery would fix this.

You have a great chin, low body fat bone definition, and good overall harmony, however jaw recession can be hidden on some faces. So I recommend getting your bite looked at, if there’s a problem then fix that, if not then lip filler and maybe a rhinoplasty.

Valid, I have malocclusion that causes that bottom row of my jaw to cave inwards towards the tongue. What is my rating currently? I'm also confused on how lips are so detrimental to a look when personally I think no lips is sometimes better than overly-plump ones.

 

[mateus17]

How & where can I slay then? it's ridiculous to see these LTNS manlets killing it at college bars. Will read your post as well.

if LTN manlets are killing it. I’d like to see the calibre of girls they’re pulling.

 

[True.Nelts]

if LTN manlets are killing it. I’d like to see the calibre of girls they’re pulling.

It's the frat HALO. It's a surprising portion of them bagging HTBs, frankly it's just as grotesque as seeing the mudsharks

 

[True.Nelts]

Bump

 

[Whatever]

Valid, I have malocclusion that causes that bottom row of my jaw to cave inwards towards the tongue. What is my rating currently? I'm also confused on how lips are so detrimental to a look when personally I think no lips is sometimes better than overly-plump ones.

I don’t rate guys but I can say you have a great base that’s being brutally held back by this mouth area problem. This is such a big deal because the collapsed look of the lips is indicative of what’s technically a dysfunctional skeletal deformity. And in America, people are obsessed with mouth area, teeth, smile so any kind of malocclusion is one of the worst flaws you can have here. I know it’s one of my top priorities in life to fix my collapsed mouth area, and by PSL standards your base is at least as good as mine, I’d say it’s worth investing in and getting fixed.