Bad social skills are actually the norm

[disillusioned]

Let's be real most normies aren't socially literature and can't communicate effectively. Most of them just get a pass because of their appearance or status. If you examine normie behavior irl you'll see that many of them are actually clueless and have only limited grasp of how they come across to others.

Furthermore, most people are so lacking in self-awareness in regards to how much appearance influences their perception of other people that it's questionable to what extent social skills even truly matter. On a higher social level (interactions with elite people, the rich, etc) they absolutely do matter. But during day to day interactions with other people so called 'social skills' are 90% appearance plus some superficial gestures like fake smiles/laughs/etc.

Having actually GOOD social skills is the exception. Not the rule. Only ugly people ever get ripped on for having so called bad social skills unless you are literally a fucking autist. Even then people would still probably just chuckle and find it funny if you were chad.

 

[Deleted member 17174]

can you give us some background? Who in specific do you speak of when you say "the elites" etc

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

no

 

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Thing I'm surprised about with most normie guys is most of them have a inability to really be aware of deeper social patterns while girls are almost always aware.

Most dudes are dumb as shit about this stuff if you talk to them and its hilarious

No wonder girls say guys are idiots.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Thing I'm surprised about with most normie guys is most of them have a inability to really be aware of deeper social patterns while girls are almost always aware.

Most dudes are dumb as shit about this stuff if you talk to them and its hilarious

Girls are socially intelligent. It's definitely evolutionary... a way to compensate for their lack of physical strength.

 

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Girls are socially intelligent. It's definitely evolutionary... a way to compensate for their lack of physical strength.

I definitely agree. Its 100% a biological thing because I've talked with So many guys and girls across the board of race social class and IQ and its all similar usually this pattern.

 

[disillusioned]

Thing I'm surprised about with most normie guys is most of them have a inability to really be aware of deeper social patterns while girls are almost always aware.

Most dudes are dumb as shit about this stuff if you talk to them and its hilarious

No wonder girls say guys are idiots.

I've concluded this as well. The fact women are stereotyped as 'dumb' by males is frankly hilarious. Granted there are some extremely dumb foids but overall as a whole women easily have 10x the amount of social literacy than men have. Consider the absolute level of nonsense women can get away with on a frequent bases simply by giving males the puppy look while feigning sadness. You would have to be a total retard to fall for this yet most men won't hesitate. Literally retard tier social skills.

Tbh the realization that women are actually smarter than men (at least socially, men are probably still more talented overall in things like science, math, etc) has fundamentally changed the way I look at the world tbh. It has gotten to the point where I don't even really hate foids anymore because it seems like 90% of their poor behavior can be explained by men just being too stupid to call them out on it. Why not exploit and lie to men if it's so easy to get away with?

But here is where things get really fucked: I don't think the reason men have historically dominated most hiarchies really has anything to do with brute strength...

...it's because there is no objective reason for women to even be in charge at all.

Think about it: Why take risks by pursuing power when the most powerful males will literally just give you everything you want? Why participate in dangerous power politics when literally the primary motive of those males doing so is to just get into your pants? The entire point of being the alpha male is to secure access to females. Men literally exist for the sole purpose of providing for women.

If you are a high value female, without doing ANYTHING you automatically have more status than anybody else in the entire world. Yes, even more status than kings and emperors. The most powerful males on the planet will PAY just to keep you around. And even AFTER they have done this yon can STILL just walk away just like that and take half their wealth with you. A 10/10 woman has more social status than a billionaire male. Then on top of it,

Once you realize this, you'll never look at the world the same way again.

 

[Hypno]

No social skills for face and height

 

[Deleted member 4362]

You are a disillusioned retard

 

[Nothinginparticular]

Let's be real most normies aren't socially literature and can't communicate effectively. Most of them just get a pass because of their appearance or status. If you examine normie behavior irl you'll see that many of them are actually clueless and have only limited grasp of how they come across to others.

Furthermore, most people are so lacking in self-awareness in regards to how much appearance influences their perception of other people that it's questionable to what extent social skills even truly matter. On a higher social level (interactions with elite people, the rich, etc) they absolutely do matter. But during day to day interactions with other people so called 'social skills' are 90% appearance plus some superficial gestures like fake smiles/laughs/etc.

Having actually GOOD social skills is the exception. Not the rule. Only ugly people ever get ripped on for having so called bad social skills unless you are literally a fucking autist. Even then people would still probably just chuckle and find it funny if you were chad.

Shut the fuck up and die in a hole.

 

[Vermilioncore]

You don’t need social skills when you have bandz nigga

 

[dwohh]

norimes sit on snapchat and talk shieeeet all day long


listen we can talk in like incel site sort of ways, and they can talk in the nt sort of way


maybe they are not social magicians ut they are used to the motions of tallking nt and doing nt

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

water

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Indians have good skills tho

 

[disillusioned]

I'd argue that trying to have good social skills is actually a minus if you're unattractive. Once you're below a certain looks threshold, people expect you to just stay away and not bother them.

This btw is how 'introverts' (aka just ugly people) are born.

 

[JosefMengelecel]

I'd argue that trying to have good social skills is actually a minus if you're unattractive. Once you're below a certain looks threshold, people expect you to just stay away and not bother them.

This btw is how 'introverts' (aka just ugly people) are born.

Then how do you explain ugly normalfags with large social circles and gfs?

 

[hypernormie]

Thing I'm surprised about with most normie guys is most of them have a inability to really be aware of deeper social patterns while girls are almost always aware.

Most dudes are dumb as shit about this stuff if you talk to them and its hilarious

No wonder girls say guys are idiots.

Idk, more so girls are more aware of how male behavior effects status because they are always looking for high status males

Most women still have dogshit social skills when it comes to interacting with others

They just have a better time spotting when men have dogshit social skills

Doesn’t mean they themselves know how to navigate social environments better. Most women aren’t competing for status in the same way so have no need for refined social skills like men do

Women evolved to spot a low status male but didn’t evolve themselves to not be a low status male because the hierarchy doesn’t really effect them. Women can have dogshit social skills and still succeed sexually but they won’t succeed sexually if they can’t spot a man with dogshit social skills

 

[disillusioned]

Doesn’t mean they themselves know how to navigate social environments better.

Hard disagree. Women literally evolved to navigate social environments because the males would just straight up beat the shit out of them if they were bad at it.

 

[try2beme]

Let's be real most normies aren't socially literature and can't communicate effectively. Most of them just get a pass because of their appearance or status. If you examine normie behavior irl you'll see that many of them are actually clueless and have only limited grasp of how they come across to others.

Furthermore, most people are so lacking in self-awareness in regards to how much appearance influences their perception of other people that it's questionable to what extent social skills even truly matter. On a higher social level (interactions with elite people, the rich, etc) they absolutely do matter. But during day to day interactions with other people so called 'social skills' are 90% appearance plus some superficial gestures like fake smiles/laughs/etc.

Having actually GOOD social skills is the exception. Not the rule. Only ugly people ever get ripped on for having so called bad social skills unless you are literally a fucking autist. Even then people would still probably just chuckle and find it funny if you were chad.

Yes but theres various extents

Its clear those on this site are on the extreme

 

[hypernormie]

Hard disagree. Women literally evolved to navigate social environments because the males would just straight up beat the shit out of them if they were bad at it.

Women are more socially evolved but it doesn’t take much social skill to be far better than the average woman which is kinda where I’m getting my ideas from

It’s not like the average woman is a social savant. She just knows to pay attention to how behaviors effect status but that’s an easy skill to learn once you know what to look for. Beyond that women have about the same social skill as men.

it’s not like talking to the average woman is going to be 10x more entertaining than talking to the average man. Most women have a keen albeit unconscious awareness of what someone is doing wrong in social situations but a far less skill (or maybe motivation) when it comes to enhancing social situations by engaging in behaviors that bring positive social value in interactions.

Anecdotally the people with the most well developed social skills I’ve ever met have all been men. By well developed I mean they were not only aware of the social nuances of status but also how to capitalize on that awareness to enhance status.

I will agree though that these men who have superior social interactions are rarer than women who simply have generally positive social interactions.

The average man is probably having more neutral to negative social interactions

While the average woman is probably having more neutral to positive ones

But when it comes to the highest level of social interaction that is usually the domain of men in fields like sales or chads with large social circles

So yeah I guess I agree with you, just my 2 cents.