Balding at 15

[123.5]

Like a low norwood 2 rn. I've got thick hair, just a receding hairline.I pulled up my hair for the first time in a while, and realised the corners have receded a shit ton. dad is completely bald, with hair he was a norwood 3. Idk if it matters, but here's the family balding history: Mum- Good, thick hair, Dad- Horrendous hairline thin hair. Maternal grandfather - norwood 6, Paternal grandfather- norwood 1 somehow. If hair 'types' matter im fully white no mixing anywhere in my recent family history. I've got blonde roots which probably doesn't help checking my hairline. It looks fine until I pull my hair up. Help needed

 

[IraniancelV2]

What the actual fuck, how is that possible

 

[Mike456]

What the actual fuck, how is that possible

Genes

 

[IraniancelV2]

Genes

Over

 

[grilldaddy❤️]

Wow sad hop on hairline protecting products

 

[123.5]

Wow sad hop on hairline protecting products

Like what?

 

[grilldaddy❤️]

Like what?

Ask ChatGPT or go to botb

 

[IraniancelV2]

Wow sad hop on hairline protecting products

Nah, he should baby trap before it's too late

 

[Mrinfinityx]

I am only spared from ogreness cause of my insane hairline at 31 yo, over

If u dont do a anything about it, u are a naturally selectionned cuck

 

[why not me?]

its so over

its over

 

[123.5]

My foreheads like three fingers but ive got massive hands, idk how i could measure the corners

Nah, he should baby trap before it's too late

 

[lcberg04]

Dont hop on Finasteride or Dutasteride yet since you're obviously still in puberty and need DHT for development especially for penile growth but after you turned 18/19 hop on a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor ASAP. The only effective things you can do now is apply topical minoxidil + maybe even an topical anti androgen like RU58841 but i would be careful with that as well since it can go potentially systemic.

 

[123.5]

Dont hop on Finasteride or Dutasteride yet since you're obviously still in puberty and need DHT for development especially for penile growth but after you turned 18/19 hop on a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor ASAP. The only effective things you can do now is apply topical minoxidil + maybe even an topical anti androgen like RU58841 but i would be careful with that as well since it can go potentially systemic.

Thank you einstein, what about oral minoxodil

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Dont hop on Finasteride or Dutasteride yet since you're obviously still in puberty and need DHT for development especially for penile growth but after you turned 18/19 hop on a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor ASAP. The only effective things you can do now is apply topical minoxidil + maybe even an topical anti androgen like RU58841 but i would be careful with that as well since it can go potentially systemic.

He needs not only that, but daily scalp massages, daily nitric oxide enhancers, daily endothelial function practices like cardio, daily sun exposure or red light therapy on scalp, extremely high antiinflammatory regimen based on curcuma, pepper, cloves, garlic, red whine, olive oil, almonds, dark chocolate, chicory, raw salmon, true thym honey and so on, vitamin k to prevent any calcification risk of vessels and scalp lowering the incidence of fibrosis and permanent hair loss also

 

[lcberg04]

Thank you einstein, what about oral minoxodil

sure can try that as well it is more effective as well but can have more side effects especially bloating which is a huge looksmin obviously

 

[123.5]

sure can try that as well it is more effective as well but can have more side effects especially bloating which is a huge looksmin obviously

I've got pretty lucky with fat distribution in my face, good canine fossa so i have some sort of hollow cheeks. Bloating might not be terrible

 

[lcberg04]

He needs not only that, but daily scalp massages, daily nitric oxide enhancers, daily endothelial function practices like cardio, daily sun exposure or red light therapy on scalp, extremely high antiinflammatory regimen based on curcuma, pepper, cloves, garlic, red whine, olive oil, almonds, dark chocolate, chicory, raw salmon, true thym honey and so on, vitamin k to prevent any calcification risk of vessels and scalp lowering the incidence of fibrosis also

90% of the shit your wrote is cope and can be seen as best health practices at most, sure increasing Nitric oxide may help a bit but it does not address the underlying hormonal causes of genetic hair loss. Im not aware of any studies that show accelerated hair regrowth in humans with these treatments.

 

[lcberg04]

I've got pretty lucky with fat distribution in my face, good canine fossa so i have some sort of hollow cheeks. Bloating might not be terrible

try it out for sure if you dont care that much about bloating but even if you have good facial genetics less bloat is always better so i think topical minoxidil will be enough at first if youre just experiencing temporal recession.

 

[ru58841]

Im here to protect you

 

[Hide]

Hop on dut and minoxidil goy

 

[Mrinfinityx]

90% of the shit your wrote is cope and can be seen as best health practices at most, sure increasing Nitric oxide may help a bit but it does not address the underlying hormonal causes of genetic hair loss. Im not aware of any studies that show accelerated hair regrowth in humans with these treatments.

I forgot ketoconazole shampoo twice a week, also preventing any systemic inflammation and boosting microcirculation can only be beneficial

Androgenic alopecia is associated with higher dietary inflammatory index and lower antioxidant index scores - PubMed

Antioxidant-rich diets protect against AGA, while pro-inflammatory diets increase the risk, likely through developing MetS. Patient nutrition is frequently overlooked in clinical practice, yet it plays a crucial role, especially for women genetically predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Dietary...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Role of Diet as an Adjuvant Treatment in Scarring and Nonscarring Alopecia - PMC

Diet is known to affect a wide range of health disorders. Many patients with hair and scalp diseases often inquire about special diets that may improve their symptoms. To evaluate nutrition and diet as adjunct treatments in nonscarring and scarring ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Self-Assessments of Standardized Scalp Massages for Androgenic Alopecia: Survey Results - PubMed

While further research is warranted, these results align with previous findings and suggest the potential for SSMs to improve AGA.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Self-Assessments of Standardized Scalp Massages for Androgenic Alopecia: Survey Results - PMC

Standardized scalp massages (SSMs) improve hair thickness in nonbalding men, but their effects on androgenic alopecia (AGA) have not yet been evaluated. The objective of this study was to investigate the effect of SSMs on self-assessed AGA sufferers ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[123.5]

try it out for sure if you dont care that much about bloating but even if you have good facial genetics less bloat is always better so i think topical minoxidil will be enough at first if youre just experiencing temporal recession.

Yeah even though I don't bloat much I look so much better when I'm not. Hgh bloat is gonna be brutal

 

[123.5]

I forgot ketoconazole shampoo twice a week, also preventing any systemic inflammation and boosting microcirculation can only be beneficial

Androgenic alopecia is associated with higher dietary inflammatory index and lower antioxidant index scores - PubMed

Antioxidant-rich diets protect against AGA, while pro-inflammatory diets increase the risk, likely through developing MetS. Patient nutrition is frequently overlooked in clinical practice, yet it plays a crucial role, especially for women genetically predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Dietary...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Role of Diet as an Adjuvant Treatment in Scarring and Nonscarring Alopecia - PMC

Diet is known to affect a wide range of health disorders. Many patients with hair and scalp diseases often inquire about special diets that may improve their symptoms. To evaluate nutrition and diet as adjunct treatments in nonscarring and scarring ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Self-Assessments of Standardized Scalp Massages for Androgenic Alopecia: Survey Results - PubMed

While further research is warranted, these results align with previous findings and suggest the potential for SSMs to improve AGA.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Self-Assessments of Standardized Scalp Massages for Androgenic Alopecia: Survey Results - PMC

Standardized scalp massages (SSMs) improve hair thickness in nonbalding men, but their effects on androgenic alopecia (AGA) have not yet been evaluated. The objective of this study was to investigate the effect of SSMs on self-assessed AGA sufferers ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Bookmarked, thanks

 

[richoxne]

just be bald

 

[123.5]

just be bald

To be bald you have to be jacked, I dont make the rules

 

[richoxne]

To be bald you have to be jacked, I dont make the rules

you will look like this chad

 

[lcberg04]

I forgot ketoconazole shampoo twice a week

yeah this is a good point definitely worth it as well

Androgenic alopecia is associated with higher dietary inflammatory index and lower antioxidant index scores - PubMed

Antioxidant-rich diets protect against AGA, while pro-inflammatory diets increase the risk, likely through developing MetS. Patient nutrition is frequently overlooked in clinical practice, yet it plays a crucial role, especially for women genetically predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Dietary...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It just shows a association between diet and hair loss, but it cannot prove that the diet caused the hair loss. Again just correlation, not Causation. Also read the study the author literally say that the links between diet and AGA were significant and strong for women, but not statistically significant for men. The authors suggest that in men, the genetic and hormonal drivers of baldness (specifically DHT) are so dominant that the dietary influence is less apparent.

The Role of Diet as an Adjuvant Treatment in Scarring and Nonscarring Alopecia - PMC

Diet is known to affect a wide range of health disorders. Many patients with hair and scalp diseases often inquire about special diets that may improve their symptoms. To evaluate nutrition and diet as adjunct treatments in nonscarring and scarring ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

same case with this study

Self-Assessments of Standardized Scalp Massages for Androgenic Alopecia: Survey Results - PubMed

While further research is warranted, these results align with previous findings and suggest the potential for SSMs to improve AGA.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

relys on self reported data and self assessments jfl. There are literally people that swear by putting seed oils on their scalp or aleppo soup that these esoteric treatmens make a difference so i completly ignore that just survey people and let them be the judge of their results. Same with the other study you linked these studies are just retrospective surveys with no placebo or control group either. Also Participants were not a random sample of people. They were individuals actively searching for alternative hair loss treatments online who were motivated enough to purchase materials from the lead author's website. I mean come on these are not even real clinical studies.

Also AGAIN the main outcome was a self-assessment on a five-point scale from "significant worsening" to "significant regrowth." This is not an objective measure like hair count, hair thickness analysis, or assessment by a dermatologist.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Bookmarked, thanks

U are welcome, I am often brutally honest and apathetic but at least i am genuine

 

[Mrinfinityx]

yeah this is a good point definitely worth it as well

It just shows a association between diet and hair loss, but it cannot prove that the diet caused the hair loss. Again just correlation, not Causation. Also read the study the author literally say that the links between diet and AGA were significant and strong for women, but not statistically significant for men. The authors suggest that in men, the genetic and hormonal drivers of baldness (specifically DHT) are so dominant that the dietary influence is less apparent.

same case with this study

relys on self reported data and self assessments jfl. There are literally people that swear by putting seed oils on their scalp or aleppo soup that these esoteric treatmens make a difference so i completly ignore that just survey people and let them be the judge of their results. Same with the other study you linked these studies are just retrospective surveys with no placebo or control group either. Also Participants were not a random sample of people. They were individuals actively searching for alternative hair loss treatments online who were motivated enough to purchase materials from the lead author's website. I mean come on these are not even real clinical studies.

Also AGAIN the main outcome was a self-assessment on a five-point scale from "significant worsening" to "significant regrowth." This is not an objective measure like hair count, hair thickness analysis, or assessment by a dermatologist.

There are plenty of studies i just linked the first passing through my feed, but that s the succession of positive conclusions across my readings that motivated me to implement this

 

[elkkkk]

Like a low norwood 2 rn. I've got thick hair, just a receding hairline.I pulled up my hair for the first time in a while, and realised the corners have receded a shit ton. dad is completely bald, with hair he was a norwood 3. Idk if it matters, but here's the family balding history: Mum- Good, thick hair, Dad- Horrendous hairline thin hair. Maternal grandfather - norwood 6, Paternal grandfather- norwood 1 somehow. If hair 'types' matter im fully white no mixing anywhere in my recent family history. I've got blonde roots which probably doesn't help checking my hairline. It looks fine until I pull my hair up. Help needed

hop on minox @ru58841 and if possible finasteride

 

[ru58841]

hop on minox @ru58841 and if possible finasteride

finasteride at 15 is diabolical, just stick to ru and min

 

[elkkkk]

finasteride at 15 is diabolical, just stick to ru and min

ik but its the most effective solution and at 15-16 dht slowly becomes useless

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Standardized Scalp Massage Results in Increased Hair Thickness by Inducing Stretching Forces to Dermal Papilla Cells in the Subcutaneous Tissue - PMC

Objective: In this study, we evaluated the effect of scalp massage on hair in Japanese males and the effect of stretching forces on human dermal papilla cells in vitro. Methods: Nine healthy men received 4 minutes of standardized scalp massage per ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Quote for the lazies: "The control area showed no significant change in hair count, hair thickness, and hair growth rate throughout the 24-week study period (Figs 2–4). The scalp massage area showed no significant change in the hair growth rate throughout the study period (Fig 4). However, the scalp massage area showed a significant increase in hair thickness at 24 weeks compared with the initiation point (0.085 ± 0.003 mm vs 0.092 ± 0.001 mm) and significant decrease in hair count at 12 weeks (163.889 ± 7.237/cm2 vs 155.500 ± 5.607/cm2) (Figs 2 and 3)."

 

[ru58841]

ik but its the most effective solution and at 15-16 dht slowly becomes useless

everyone develops at different times, usually your dick finishes developing at 15 but theres people whos dicks still grow past 15 (usually late bloomers)

OP has your dih grown recently?

 

[elkkkk]

everyone develops at different times, usually your dick finishes developing at 15 but theres people whos dicks still grow past 15 (usually late bloomers)

OP has your dih grown recently?

penile development stops for 90 percent at 15-16

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Also consume nettles, full of antioxidants and antiinflammatory compounds, many profactors of collagen, full amino acid spectrum, and the most interesting part a natural 5α-reductase inhibitor that can act as a good alternative to oral medication

Ameliorative effects of stinging nettle (Urtica dioica) on testosterone-induced prostatic hyperplasia in rats - PubMed

The present study investigated the effects of stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) (UD) on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) induced by testosterone. In vitro studies were conducted to assess the 5α-reductase inhibitory potential of UD. Two biochemical markers viz., β-sitosterol and scopoletin...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A comprehensive review on the stinging nettle effect and efficacy profiles. Part II: urticae radix - PubMed

Nettle root is recommended for complaints associated with benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). We therefore conducted a comprehensive review of the literature to summarise the pharmacological and clinical effects of this plant material. Only a few components of the active principle have been...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/features/stinging-nettle-alternative-treatment-for-bph-osteoarthritis-other-pro-inflammatory-ailments/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51537882_Ameliorative_effects_of_Stinging_Nettle_Urtica_dioica_on_testosterone_induced_prostatic_hyperplasia_in_rats

 

[laworg]

Like a low norwood 2 rn. I've got thick hair, just a receding hairline.I pulled up my hair for the first time in a while, and realised the corners have receded a shit ton. dad is completely bald, with hair he was a norwood 3. Idk if it matters, but here's the family balding history: Mum- Good, thick hair, Dad- Horrendous hairline thin hair. Maternal grandfather - norwood 6, Paternal grandfather- norwood 1 somehow. If hair 'types' matter im fully white no mixing anywhere in my recent family history. I've got blonde roots which probably doesn't help checking my hairline. It looks fine until I pull my hair up. Help needed

Ur not balding hairline just maturing it wont recede more

 

[ru58841]

penile development stops for 90 percent at 15-16

it depends on when you hit puberty and the progression of the puberty, you cant just suggest op to take a 5ari without having any knowledge about how he developed

 

[elkkkk]

it depends on when you hit puberty and the progression of the puberty, you cant just suggest op to take a 5ari without having any knowledge about how he developed

i made a generalized suggestion based of statistics i cant know how he developed or what stage of puberty he is in so i cant give him a personalized suggestion thats why i inluded 5ar blockers since it is a option

 

[CalulArgintiu59]

If u are balding, u most likely finished puberty earlier, but I won't suggest 5ar inhibitors as u are very young! Till 18 get on minoxidil, alfatradiol, ru58841, fluridil, ketoconazole 2% EOD! Try to get ur hands on as many topical anti androgens and use them till 18 and then switch to dut as u have a severe case if u are balding from 15

 

[123.5]

it depends on when you hit puberty and the progression of the puberty, you cant just suggest op to take a 5ari without having any knowledge about how he developed

Hit puberty before everyone else

 

[ru58841]

Hit puberty before everyone else

what age

 

[123.5]

12-13 was a pretty big jump, not gonna post my face on here

what age

 

[Detective]

its over

 

[copester2]

Like a low norwood 2 rn. I've got thick hair, just a receding hairline.I pulled up my hair for the first time in a while, and realised the corners have receded a shit ton. dad is completely bald, with hair he was a norwood 3. Idk if it matters, but here's the family balding history: Mum- Good, thick hair, Dad- Horrendous hairline thin hair. Maternal grandfather - norwood 6, Paternal grandfather- norwood 1 somehow. If hair 'types' matter im fully white no mixing anywhere in my recent family history. I've got blonde roots which probably doesn't help checking my hairline. It looks fine until I pull my hair up. Help needed

 

[poloralf]

Like a low norwood 2 rn. I've got thick hair, just a receding hairline.I pulled up my hair for the first time in a while, and realised the corners have receded a shit ton. dad is completely bald, with hair he was a norwood 3. Idk if it matters, but here's the family balding history: Mum- Good, thick hair, Dad- Horrendous hairline thin hair. Maternal grandfather - norwood 6, Paternal grandfather- norwood 1 somehow. If hair 'types' matter im fully white no mixing anywhere in my recent family history. I've got blonde roots which probably doesn't help checking my hairline. It looks fine until I pull my hair up. Help needed

Minoxidil asap and use ru58841 mixed topically, luckily you will respond fast the first time