Beauty is a terrifying complex system

[NeoDandi]

Beauty is terrifying because it highlights what's ugly.

Beauty shows you that you aren't what you should be.

Hence people are afraid of beauty as real beauty has a depth that allows people to transcend and get in touch with the divine. This cannot be reduced down to simple and easy metrics.

What makes a painting worth billions and have people line up for hours to see it it's not a single feature of it or the time spent by the artist - indeed its beauty lies in the entirety of it and in its immeasurable qualities.

Obviously beauty has got its patternicity but it's not overly predictable.

It walks this fine line between order and chaos as it's a highly complex system that it's evolving over time.

If beauty was just a complicated system, it would be possible to break it down into bits, understand it and put it back together. This is not the case with beauty. A complex system is like a black box that does all this crazy stuff but if you take it apart you can't put it back together again because there are all these intricacies.

Also, very importantly, the sum of the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts and that's where the beauty lies.

 

[Deleted member 21297]

Beauty is terrifying because it highlights what's ugly.

Beauty shows you that you aren't what you should be.

Hence people are afraid of beauty as real beauty has a depth that allows people to transcend and get in touch with the divine. This cannot be reduced down to simple and easy metrics.

What makes a painting worth billions and have people line up for hours to see it it's not a single feature of it or the time spent by the artist - indeed its beauty lies in the entirety of it and in its immeasurable qualities.

Obviously beauty has got its patternicity but it's not overly predictable.

It walks this fine line between order and chaos as it's a highly complex system that it's evolving over time.

If beauty was just a complicated system, it would be possible to break it down into bits, understand it and put it back together. This is not the case with beauty. A complex system is like a black box that does all this crazy stuff but if you take it apart you can't put it back together again because there are all these intricacies.

Also, very importantly, the sum of the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts and that's where the beauty lies.

pfp mogs me

 

[jaw_is_law]

just fucking cage at this thread

beauty in humans is simply indicators of genetic fitness quit coping with "muh beauty is subjective"

tell me honestly, do you truly think this man is beautiful?

 

[6ft4]

Good read

 

[NeoDandi]

just fucking cage at this thread

beauty in humans is simply indicators of genetic fitness quit coping with "muh beauty is subjective"

tell me honestly, do you truly think this man is beautiful?

Typical average retarded autist on this forum that didn't even read two sentences.

This man clearly doesn't fit the patternicity of beauty

 

[jaw_is_law]

Typical average retarded autist on this forum that didn't even read two sentences.

This man clearly doesn't fit the patternicity of beauty

so your essentially saying beauty is subjective?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

just fucking cage at this thread

beauty in humans is simply indicators of genetic fitness quit coping with "muh beauty is subjective"

tell me honestly, do you truly think this man is beautiful?

nigga misunderstood the meaning of the thread.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

You're right OP. Beauty is hard to pin down exactly in a logical fashion. That's the reason PSL can sometimes end up with these autistic looking faces that are near perfect on paper but look highly uncanny.

 

[Toth's thot]

beauty is my drug, I'm the pusher

 

[stressftw]

Beauty is terrifying because it highlights what's ugly.

Beauty shows you that you aren't what you should be.

Hence people are afraid of beauty as real beauty has a depth that allows people to transcend and get in touch with the divine. This cannot be reduced down to simple and easy metrics.

What makes a painting worth billions and have people line up for hours to see it it's not a single feature of it or the time spent by the artist - indeed its beauty lies in the entirety of it and in its immeasurable qualities.

Obviously beauty has got its patternicity but it's not overly predictable.

It walks this fine line between order and chaos as it's a highly complex system that it's evolving over time.

If beauty was just a complicated system, it would be possible to break it down into bits, understand it and put it back together. This is not the case with beauty. A complex system is like a black box that does all this crazy stuff but if you take it apart you can't put it back together again because there are all these intricacies.

Also, very importantly, the sum of the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts and that's where the beauty lies.

Thats a good written. if you wrote it, OP, congratz.

The language of aesthetic judgement is identical to the languages of physics, morality, and hedonism. Aesthetic values sound like moral ones and both resemble, structurally, the laws of nature. We say that beauty is "right", that we "ought to" maximize beauty - and this leads to the right action. Replace "beauty" with "good" in any aesthetic statement and one gets a moral statement. Moral, natural, aesthetic, and hedonistic statements are all mutually convertible. Moreover, an aesthetic experience often leads to moral action.

There is a principle of aesthetic resonance at work. Works of art and beauty evoke in us associations with nature: white marble is strongly evocative of the naked human form, for instance. The resonance is both qualitative and pertains to intensive aesthetic properties, such as texture, color, “warmth”, or shape. This deeply-felt resonance may be at the heart of aesthetics affinity with morality, especially with the “natural law”.

 

[them streets b cold]

 

[NeoDandi]

You're right OP. Beauty is hard to pin down exactly in a logical fashion. That's the reason PSL can sometimes end up with these autistic looking faces that are near perfect on paper but look highly uncanny.

Exactly. Who would have guessed that Chalamet would be the new sex symbol out of Hollywood?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Thats a good written. if you wrote it, OP, congratz.

The language of aesthetic judgement is identical to the languages of physics, morality, and hedonism. Aesthetic values sound like moral ones and both resemble, structurally, the laws of nature. We say that beauty is "right", that we "ought to" maximize beauty - and this leads to the right action. Replace "beauty" with "good" in any aesthetic statement and one gets a moral statement. Moral, natural, aesthetic, and hedonistic statements are all mutually convertible. Moreover, an aesthetic experience often leads to moral action.

There is a principle of aesthetic resonance at work. Works of art and beauty evoke in us associations with nature: white marble is strongly evocative of the naked human form, for instance. The resonance is both qualitative and pertains to intensive aesthetic properties, such as texture, color, “warmth”, or shape. This deeply-felt resonance may be at the heart of aesthetics affinity with morality, especially with the “natural law”.

Looks are morality

Brutal blackpill for incels here. They're inherently evil

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Exactly. Who would have guessed that Chalamet would be the new sex symbol out of Hollywood?

I saw the dune movie a while back and he looked pretty aesthetic. His eyes can be improved obviously.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

If beauty was just a complicated system, it would be possible to break it down into bits, understand it and put it back together. This is not the case with beauty. A complex system is like a black box that does all this crazy stuff but if you take it apart you can't put it back together again because there are all these intricacies.

I get what you mean. But, you forgot one thing. Beauty is a complicated system, but it can absolutely be studied and analyzed. Countless theories have been invented by scientists and artists in order to explain the nature of human facial aesthetics. You can find tons of textbooks online. But we don't understand everything yet. There are certain things like harmony for which we haven't dug deep enough, but we're getting there, we just need more data and more complex theories.
It's just like studying the physical world. We've got physics, it can't explain EVERYTHING, that's why there are some flaws in the theories, but it still manages to explain tons of shit.
Looks theory manages to explain why most good looking guys look good and why ugly guys look like shit. And then, the missing piece is harmony, but again we just need more data

I think that anything can be analyzed/studied scientifically, even a beautifully complex painting, but we need complex resources/tools

 

[lonelycurry]

who cares just rape women and hide in the woods like a subhuman creature, stop being a pussy

 

[Ceo of cope]

just fucking cage at this thread

beauty in humans is simply indicators of genetic fitness quit coping with "muh beauty is subjective"

tell me honestly, do you truly think this man is beautiful?

Not true at all. Of course people with genuine deformities are ugly but do most incels/normies have whatever that is? Use your brain bro. Anyone who studies nature can tell you lots of selection is sexual, not natural/adaptive at all. All across thr animal kingdome you can see males peform elaborate displays or boast impressive colors,shapes, sounds etc to attract females. None of it increases their survivability or hints at good genes, heck it even decreases it alot of times. Same in humans.

What is the survival value of big permanent breasts on women? No it isnt correlated with fertility or milk production or anything really. It just looks nice to men.

Whwt is the survival value of a big thick dick that has no penis bone, feels smooth to the touch and look and has a thick bulbous head? No, having a longer dick does not increase chances of succesfull conception. In fact having the source of ejaculatiom be some 1 or 2 inches away from the cervicsl entrance is the best for optimal insemination, hence most penises being around 5.5 inches. But we all know how much women dislike truly average penises.

Same with other stuff really. What is so good about blue eyes? Blonde hair? A gonial angle that is exactly 120 degrees? Porportional lips and a narrow nose? Do you guys really think a downturned medial canthus with positively tilted dark dense eyebrows and a good ES ratio really matters for muj fightimg success?


The sooner you take the sexual selection/fisherian runaway pill the better bros

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Not true at all. Of course people with genuine deformities are ugly but do most incels/normies have whatever that is? Use your brain bro. Anyone who studies nature can tell you lots of selection is sexual, not natural/adaptive at all. All across thr animal kingdome you can see males peform elaborate displays or boast impressive colors,shapes, sounds etc to attract females. None of it increases their survivability or hints at good genes, heck it even decreases it alot of times. Same in humans.

What is the survival value of big permanent breasts on women? No it isnt correlated with fertility or milk production or anything really. It just looks nice to men.

Whwt is the survival value of a big thick dick that has no penis bone, feels smooth to the touch and look and has a thick bulbous head? No, having a longer dick does not increase chances of succesfull conception. In fact having the source of ejaculatiom be some 1 or 2 inches away from the cervicsl entrance is the best for optimal insemination, hence most penises being around 5.5 inches. But we all know how much women dislike truly average penises.

Same with other stuff really. What is so good about blue eyes? Blonde hair? A gonial angle that is exactly 120 degrees? Porportional lips and a narrow nose? Do you guys really think a downturned medial canthus with positively tilted dark dense eyebrows and a good ES ratio really matters for muj fightimg success?


The sooner you take the sexual selection/fisherian runaway pill the better bros

BAsed asf answer

 

[Aesthetics_III]

This is very true.

That being said harmony is cope and a bunk term tbh

 

[Deleted member 5892]

This is very true.

That being said harmony is cope and a bunk term tbh

harmony isnt really cope (but it can be explained, its just complicated)

 

[Aesthetics_III]

harmony isnt really cope (but it can be explained, its just complicated)

it is. Harmony “exists” (sort of) but people here misuse it to the point it has no meaning

 

[Deleted member 5892]

it is. Harmony “exists” (sort of) but people here misuse it to the point it has no meaning

I agree that people misuse it. But saying its a cope is wrong. Some features go better with others. But ive seen too many users saying shit like ''oh hes good good harmony'' while in fact the guy looks like shit (like Adam driver)

 

[jaw_is_law]

Not true at all. Of course people with genuine deformities are ugly but do most incels/normies have whatever that is? Use your brain bro. Anyone who studies nature can tell you lots of selection is sexual, not natural/adaptive at all. All across thr animal kingdome you can see males peform elaborate displays or boast impressive colors,shapes, sounds etc to attract females. None of it increases their survivability or hints at good genes, heck it even decreases it alot of times. Same in humans.

What is the survival value of big permanent breasts on women? No it isnt correlated with fertility or milk production or anything really. It just looks nice to men.

Whwt is the survival value of a big thick dick that has no penis bone, feels smooth to the touch and look and has a thick bulbous head? No, having a longer dick does not increase chances of succesfull conception. In fact having the source of ejaculatiom be some 1 or 2 inches away from the cervicsl entrance is the best for optimal insemination, hence most penises being around 5.5 inches. But we all know how much women dislike truly average penises.

Same with other stuff really. What is so good about blue eyes? Blonde hair? A gonial angle that is exactly 120 degrees? Porportional lips and a narrow nose? Do you guys really think a downturned medial canthus with positively tilted dark dense eyebrows and a good ES ratio really matters for muj fightimg success?


The sooner you take the sexual selection/fisherian runaway pill the better bros

im talking about symmetrical face

but what most women are attracted to are simply indicators of genetic fitness

being tall, athletic, somewhat muscular, clear skin, not balding, youthful face, non-asymmetrical face because an asymmetrical face means you have poor genetic quality or abnormal prenatal development, Intelligence (social intelligence, NT-ness, common sense, ability to acquisition money)

and generally thats the case. there are some mentally ill woman that are attracted to ugly, balding, subhuman, short, morbidly obese deformed tier incels.

 

[stressftw]

Looks are morality

Brutal blackpill for incels here. They're inherently evil

Thats not what i said

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Thats not what i said

that's what I said.

 

[Ceo of cope]

im talking about symmetrical face

but what most women are attracted to are simply indicators of genetic fitness

being tall, athletic, somewhat muscular, clear skin, not balding, youthful face, non-asymmetrical face because an asymmetrical face means you have poor genetic quality or abnormal prenatal development, Intelligence (social intelligence, NT-ness, common sense, ability to acquisition money)

and generally thats the case. there are some mentally ill woman that are attracted to ugly, balding, subhuman, short, morbidly obese deformed tier incels.

Agree with some things but assymetry has not been found to significsntly link to anything. Also, the fact that yes, women care about height and build, but that face tramples over all of those heavily proves my point even more. Also harmony is very real and anyone that denies it is just missing thr forest for the trees at this point. Balding has no correlation with anything either. Its just an unfortunate side effect of how hair follicules and androgens work. Some men bald at 16.

And there are tond of men who fit your description (tall, athletic, youthfull) who arent considered high smv and are beat out by 5'9 skinnyfat prettyboys, because of FACE

 

[NeoDandi]

Agree with some things but assymetry has not been found to significsntly link to anything. Also, the fact that yes, women care about height and build, but that face tramples over all of those heavily proves my point even more. Also harmony is very real and anyone that denies it is just missing thr forest for the trees at this point. Balding has no correlation with anything either. Its just an unfortunate side effect of how hair follicules and androgens work. Some men bald at 16.

And there are tond of men who fit your description (tall, athletic, youthfull) who arent considered high smv and are beat out by 5'9 skinnyfat prettyboys, because of FACE

It's all about being pretty and possibly tall.