weird opinion
why?
That’s not really a contradiction though? when people say beauty is subjective they mean what looks or feels beautiful depends on the person
its unusual like not many people say stuff like this just watch where we are
They do it's just very rare,the forum is more of less filled with just mindless bots that post the same repetitive stuff for reps
I think its subjective in art especially abstract but beauty in people is just hardwired into the brain
thats true but opinion like this is pretty distinctive
Yeah it's unlikely to see because everyone prefers saying the same braindead stuff,so post like this don't get that much attention unless you're talking about the existence of God,then you'll get all the edgy atheist in the forum arguing with you
it is a contradiction, you just changed the emphasis from the concept of beauty to what people "consider "beautiful
hm what makes my take unusual?
That’s exactly the point though mate...
why is it subjective?
yeah experience of beauty can disgust someone but it doesn't make it subjective
When observing art like music for example some people will find it beautiful and some dislike it. Same for paintings, photography and everything that isnt human beauty since they arent wired in the brain to be analyzed and seen as fit or unfit for reproduction
idk i think its the first post like that here and i am here for like 3 months or smthng so its unusual for me
that still assumes beauty has a fixed nature outside of peoples perception
do you like my take?
no, just some people like ugliness more than beauty, but to not look weird they call those ugly things "beautiful"
talking about faces or art im confused?
both
idk what to think im bit confused im kinda neutral just i get what you say but you dind't convinced me but i am not offended or smnthg its just intresting to me
no, it only makes reaction on beauty subjective. The beauty itself is in object and not in your reaction on it for sure
No one likes "ugliness". Maybe in a deeper sense (example "the potato eaters" from vincent van gogh) but not with faces unless they are either mentally ill or lying
if no one likes ugliness then dadaism in art wouldn't exist. People who like ugly things have shitty taste but ugliness itself is objective, only your reaction on it is subjective
if beauty truly exists in the object itself then everyone should recognize it the same way yet people will still disagree all the time not just slightly but completely which shows beauty isn’t built into the objec its built into how peoples/our minds interpret it the object might have certain features
is my argument kinda smart?
it is well writen and have a lot of sense but its just not enough to convince me
you might have a point with that. Ur saying that art is subjective to the observer? (observers reaction as you said)
concept of beauty is an object itself and according to you I can just name it ugly lol, it is contradictory and therefore a lie
Water post retard go fucking rope already
why are you so cruel
reaction of observer to art is subjective, the art itself is objective. It's like a car hits you, you can enjoy it or cry in pain. but the fact that you got hit by a car is objective
you cant just rename something and break its meaning thats not how subjectivity works calling it ugly doesnt change what it is beauty is in how we perceive things not in the word itself
But how will you measure if something is beautiful if everyone has a diffrent reaction?
id say its in the middle if you get what im saying
I’m sorry my favorite undercover foid, let me slay youwhy are you so cruel
The golden ratio, often represented by the Greek letter phi (Φ), is a mathematical ratio approximately equal to 1.618. It's believed to represent harmony and beauty, and is frequently found in nature, art, and even facial proportions
so i can perceive that thing "beauty" as ugly anyway (according to you), there's no logical meaning to not applying that subjectivism to the beauty concept itself
noI’m sorry my favorite undercover foid, let me slay you
You're calling the concept of beauty ugly mate that literally doesnt change what beauty is the concept stays the same your reaction doesnt rewrite it youre just showing that people can feel differently about it which is obvious the subjectivity is in the experience not in the thing itself you cant just take subjectivism from perception and apply it to the concept itself thats not how logic works beauty as a concept has its own meaning it exists independently of what you feel calling it ugly doesnt prove subjectivity it just proves you feel differently
