Bee Venom Cream for undereyes, perma puffy? (Gtfih actually)

[Hoax]

Before I see the first comment calling me an autist, hear me out.

We all know Bee stings cause puffiness on the impact, so I was looking around and saw this.

Bee venom works by triggering controlled inflammation, it dilates blood vessels, increases circulation, and causes fluid movement under the skin.

There are plenty of under eye creams containing this, and it would make the under eyes puffy.

I am worried that the under-eye area is extremely thin and fragile. Repeated use keeps that tissue in a semi low inflammatory state, I’m worried could have long term.

Thoughts?

Tagging only high IQ user I trust @aids

 

[frayed]

might try it, seems interesting

 

[Claymoreboy0118]

I need to see examples of this on a person I kind of see the vision

 

[aids]

Dilation of blood vessels would not do anything for a lack of infraorbital support.

If you think this is an alternative to fat grafts, albeit self-admittedly inferior, it isn’t.

 

[aids]

Explain your use case more clearly and I’ll give you my opinion.

 

[Orka]

Before I see the first comment calling me an autist, hear me out.


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We all know Bee stings cause puffiness on the impact, so I was looking around and saw this.

Bee venom works by triggering controlled inflammation, it dilates blood vessels, increases circulation, and causes fluid movement under the skin.

There are plenty of under eye creams containing this, and it would make the under eyes puffy.

I am worried that the under-eye area is extremely thin and fragile. Repeated use keeps that tissue in a semi low inflammatory state, I’m worried could have long term.

Thoughts?

Tagging only high IQ user I trust @aids

I was also planning on looking into this, I'd give it a shot tbh

This thread reminded me to get it so i'll buy some rn and try it for my infras

 

[202]

Before I see the first comment calling me an autist, hear me out.

autist dnr

 

[Hoax]

Explain your use case more clearly and I’ll give you my opinion.

My goal is for puffy undereyes, similar to when I wake up.

Could bee venom cream be used to replicate the puffiness in the under the eyes without causing tissue damage? I wanted to know if it can cause under-eye puffiness safely or if the inflammatory response would risk long-term irritation or permanent issues.

 

[aids]

My goal is for puffy undereyes, similar to when I wake up.

Could bee venom cream be used to replicate the puffiness in the under the eyes without causing tissue damage? I wanted to know if can cause under-eye puffiness safely or if the inflammatory response would risk long-term irritation or permanent puffiness.

Highly doubt that a cream could cause “long-term irritation”/“permanent puffiness” from prolonged use.

Can you send the actual ingredients list if it’s shared?

If your goal is fluid retention in your under eyes, I would at least try hyaluronic acid first.

 

[Orka]

If your goal is fluid retention in your under eyes, I would at least try hyaluronic acid first.

As a serum? HA hasn't helped me even when I had a diet with 3L+ of water daily, tried vitamin c for the color aswell and neither helped

 

[baseformat]

has this ever been tried before

 

[baseformat]

I was also planning on looking into this, I'd give it a shot tbh

This thread reminded me to get it so i'll buy some rn and try it for my infras

how do u know it will work

 

[aids]

As a serum? HA hasn't helped me even when I had a diet with 3L+ of water daily, tried vitamin c for the color aswell and neither helped

I am planning to buy a variety of Rejuran products including I and S, to see if they help with volume and/or colour.

If none of the things you’ve mentioned worked for you, it’s probably the next step up and final step before grafts or implants.

 

[aids]

I am planning to buy a variety of Rejuran products including I and S, to see if they help with volume and/or colour.

If none of the things you’ve mentioned worked for you, it’s probably the next step up and final step before grafts or implants.

I’ll order from South Korea tomorrow.

If anybody else wants me to guinea pig their polynucleotides then reply with what you want me to buy.

 

[aids]

As a serum? HA hasn't helped me even when I had a diet with 3L+ of water daily, tried vitamin c for the color aswell and neither helped

Though I wonder if making your own topical vehicle with HA from a gray vendor would be more efficacious than the shitty commercial products available.

 

[Orka]

I am planning to buy a variety of Rejuran products including I and S, to see if they help with volume and/or colour.

If none of the things you’ve mentioned worked for you, it’s probably the next step up and final step before grafts or implants.

Yup, fat grafting is already on my list and I've begun getting consultations.

I also saw your thread on Rejuran products, are you underage? if not why not get fat grafting yourself?

Though I wonder if making your own topical vehicle with HA from a gray vendor would be more efficacious than the shitty commercial products available.

Good point, I got the serum from a local supermarket so I'm sure they messed with it a bit

 

[appealisLAW]

doesn't venom have to be literally injected into the blood stream? poison would work topically but venom needs to be in the bloodstream.

 

[aids]

Yup, fat grafting is already on my list and I've begun getting consultations.

I also saw your thread on Rejuran products, are you underage? if not why not get fat grafting yourself?

I’m 20.
I’ll get surgical procedures (Bimax and/or rhino, etc.), once I finish uni this semester. I don’t have time for the lengthy recovery periods right now.
Haven’t even had the opportunity for Fraxis yet.

Good point, I got the serum from a local supermarket so I'm sure they messed with it a bit

Just a weak serum I’d bet.

 

[Orka]

Just a weak serum I’d bet.

Noted, I'll see what I can do regarding that.

I’m 20.
I’ll get surgical procedures (Bimax and/or rhino, etc.), once I finish uni this semester. I don’t have time for the lengthy recovery periods right now.
Haven’t even had the opportunity for Fraxis yet.

Reasonable, good luck!
Are you planning on posting B&A's to the forum? or making some sort of AMA thread?

 

[aids]

doesn't venom have to be literally injected into the blood stream? poison would work topically but venom needs to be in the bloodstream.

The epidermis/dermis is very thin at the undereyes, but the reaction that OP wants will be local to the capillaries in his under eyes. Though I don’t think it’ll give the effect he’s anticipating if any at all.

 

[aids]

Noted, I'll see what I can do regarding that.


Reasonable, good luck!
Are you planning on posting B&A's to the forum? or making some sort of AMA thread?

I’ll share my experience and PM results (whilst still considering my anonymity) to any mature, veteran user. I’ll also probably make an AMA with my CT scans and any other details/nuance.

 

[Orka]

I’ll share my experience and PM results (whilst still considering my anonymity) to any mature, veteran user. I’ll also probably make an AMA with my CT scans and any other details/nuance.

Sounds great, good luck & thanks!

 

[appealisLAW]

The epidermis/dermis is very thin at the undereyes, but the reaction that OP wants will be local to the capillaries in his under eyes. Though I don’t think it’ll give the effect he’s anticipating if any at all.

doesn't matter if it's thin or not, you can drink the most dangerous venom and you will be fine as long as you don't have any cuts in your mouth, so venom needs direct pathway for it to work.

 

[aids]

doesn't matter if it's thin or not, you can drink the most dangerous venom and you will be fine as long as you don't have any cuts in your mouth, so venom needs direct pathway for it to work.

Yes it does.
If the MW is under 500 Daltons then it will go systemic, but the effect that OP wants is local to the capillaries in his under eyes, as aforementioned, of which it will induce a response assuming the venom can pass through the skin.

 

[appealisLAW]

Yes it does.
If the MW is under 500 Daltons then it will go systemic, but the effect that OP wants is local to the capillaries in his under eyes, as aforementioned, of which it will induce a response assuming the venom can pass through the skin.

i hope you are right because i would like to use that cream if it really works, but checking with chat gpt just confirmed my statement which is a fact.

No, venom is not absorbed through thin skin like the area under the eyes and does not "work" in the way poisons do. Venom is a complex substance that must be injected directly into the bloodstream via a bite or sting to be effective

Venom: A toxin that is actively injected by an animal, such as a snake bite or a bee sting, into the victim's bloodstream. The molecules are too large to be absorbed through the skin on their own

 

[jeoyw9192]

Before I see the first comment calling me an autist, hear me out.


View attachment 4241312

We all know Bee stings cause puffiness on the impact, so I was looking around and saw this.

Bee venom works by triggering controlled inflammation, it dilates blood vessels, increases circulation, and causes fluid movement under the skin.

There are plenty of under eye creams containing this, and it would make the under eyes puffy.

I am worried that the under-eye area is extremely thin and fragile. Repeated use keeps that tissue in a semi low inflammatory state, I’m worried could have long term.

Thoughts?

Tagging only high IQ user I trust @aids

Would the goal of this to sorta stimulate an aegyo sal type look? Might be mistaken here

I am planning to buy a variety of Rejuran products including I and S, to see if they help with volume and/or colour.

If none of the things you’ve mentioned worked for you, it’s probably the next step up and final step before grafts or implants.

 

[aids]

i hope you are right because i would like to use that cream if it really works, but checking with chat gpt just confirmed my statement which is a fact.

No, venom is not absorbed through thin skin like the area under the eyes and does not "work" in the way poisons do. Venom is a complex substance that must be injected directly into the bloodstream via a bite or sting to be effective

Venom: A toxin that is actively injected by an animal, such as a snake bite or a bee sting, into the victim's bloodstream. The molecules are too large to be absorbed through the skin on their own

You understand this is in context of actually harming the user.
It all depends on Dalton weight as aforementioned.

 

[appealisLAW]

You understand this is in context of actually harming the user.
It all depends on Dalton weight as aforementioned.

in this case ''harming'' the user = puffiness around the eyes caused by the cream.

 

[decadouche57]

Cope

 

[jeoyw9192]

Would the goal of this to sorta stimulate an aegyo sal type look? Might be mistaken here

Bump @aids @Hoax

 

[Hoax]

Would the goal of this to sorta stimulate an aegyo sal type look? Might be mistaken here

The goal is to have “bloated” undereyes while having my face stays lean.

I’m tempted to purchase it, From what I have researched you have to choose a safe strength like .01 for longevity, and the skin is able absorb it.

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

As a serum? HA hasn't helped me even when I had a diet with 3L+ of water daily, tried vitamin c for the color aswell and neither helped

Get a bleaching/skin lightening cream for the under eye darkness. It’s what I use personally. There’s a few side effects but I don’t care to elaborate

Idk how it’d work for non-melanated persons either.

 

[jeoyw9192]

The goal is to have “bloated” undereyes while having my face stays lean.

I’m tempted to purchase it, From what I have researched you have to choose a safe strength like .01 for longevity, and the skin is able absorb it.

what does bloated undereyes mean though? how is that distinct from an aegyo-sal type appearance or having fat in the under eyes? I assume the opposite of "bloated" undereyes would be hollow under eyes right (n fat/aegyo sal)?