beef collagen has kept be up three nights in a row while retaining skin collagen and texture

[2d v2]

Weird stuff, definitely fountain of the youth. Worth the try my friends. If it was a larger board a wouldn't post it because it;s such valuable info.

 

[Deleted member 5815]

you still could have slept if you wanted too right it didn't cause insomnia?

I eat beef bone broth and gelatin think it's the same thing

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

you know how many pajeet normans stalk here for "inspiration" for their next viral TikTok video?

 

[kalefartbomb]

Collagen supplements are just amino acid supplements sold at a markup, after they are broken down in the stomach. Most people are deficient in collagen precursor amino acids (not enough meat in diet) so collagen supps work indirectly by boosting collagen synthesis via amino acid supplementation.

 

[2d v2]

you still could have slept if you wanted too right it didn't cause insomnia?

I eat beef bone broth and gelatin think it's the same thing

no it causes sever insomina but makes my skin amazing. idk if it does it for all. if it fucks u up you can always take some DXM cough syrup.

 

[2d v2]

Collagen supplements are just amino acid supplements sold at a markup, after they are broken down in the stomach. Most people are deficient in collagen precursor amino acids (not enough meat in diet) so collagen supps work indirectly by boosting collagen synthesis via amino acid supplementation.

dogshit, you got your info from some fag who didnt know who he was talking about. Collagen directly affects your bodies collagen, just like organs or a specific type will rebuild that organ within ur own body.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Most people are deficient in collagen precursor amino acids

Such as?

 

[2d v2]

Such as?

idk the exact one but if you eat a dozen eggs every day you will get the proper collagen supplements

 

[kalefartbomb]

dogshit, you got your info from some fag who didnt know who he was talking about. Collagen directly affects your bodies collagen, just like organs or a specific type will rebuild that organ within ur own body.

No protein structure bigger than a few amino acids survives the stomach acid. If you eat collagen it'll be broken down into its constituent aminos and then used by the body. The two most important amino acids to build the precursors to collagen are proline and glycine, which you need to eat animal foods to get adequate amounts. If you're already eating a meat/fish/egg heavy diet then collagen supplementation won't do anything. It's more useful to people eating degenerate standard or plant based diets.

And no, eating organs do not specifically rebuild that organ lmao, that's some African witchdoctor levels of broscience.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

idk the exact one but if you eat a dozen eggs every day you will get the proper collagen supplements

Source?

 

[Deleted member 5815]

no it causes sever insomina but makes my skin amazing. idk if it does it for all. if it fucks u up you can always take some DXM cough syrup.

love dxm but benadryl is better for that haha

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The two most important amino acids to build the precursors to collagen are proline and glycine

Source?

Edit: I found one.

Roles of dietary glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline in collagen synthesis and animal growth - PubMed

Glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline (Hyp) contribute to 57% of total amino acids (AAs) in collagen, which accounts for one-third of proteins in animals. As the most abundant protein in the body, collagen is essential to maintain the normal structure and strength of connective tissue, such as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The two most important amino acids to build the precursors to collagen are proline and glycine

High proline consumption was the dietary factor with the strongest impact on depression. Whole-brain dynamics revealed rich club network disruptions associated with depression and circulating proline. Proline supplementation in mice exacerbated depression along with microbial translocation.

Microbiota alterations in proline metabolism impact depression

Mayneris-Perxachs et al. apply a multi-omics approach to study the microbiota-gut-brain axis in depression and demonstrate that microbiome-dependent elevations in plasma proline are significantly associated with depression severity in humans. Proline supplementation exacerbated depression in...

www.cell.com

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The two most important amino acids to build the precursors to collagen are proline and glycine, which you need to eat animal foods to get adequate amounts.

That doesn't seem to be the case for glycine, at least.

Glycine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[kalefartbomb]

It's almost as if mice and humans are different. Mouse studies are useless for a variety of human conditions:

How informative is the mouse for human gut microbiota research?

The microbiota of the human gut is gaining broad attention owing to its association with a wide range of diseases, ranging from metabolic disorders (e.g. obesity and type 2 diabetes) to autoimmune diseases (such as inflammatory bowel disease and type 1 diabetes), cancer and even...

journals.biologists.com

 

[Reckless Turtle]

It's almost as if mice and humans are different. Mouse studies are useless for a variety of human conditions:

How informative is the mouse for human gut microbiota research?

The microbiota of the human gut is gaining broad attention owing to its association with a wide range of diseases, ranging from metabolic disorders (e.g. obesity and type 2 diabetes) to autoimmune diseases (such as inflammatory bowel disease and type 1 diabetes), cancer and even...

journals.biologists.com

The study tried to extrapolate to humans.

We applied a multi-omics approach combining pre-clinical models with three human cohorts including patients with mild depression. Microbial functions and metabolites converging onto glutamate/GABA metabolism, particularly proline, were linked to depression.

It doesn't seem like a great study though.

 

[kalefartbomb]

That doesn't seem to be the case for glycine, at least.

Glycine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All amino acids will only be obtainable in adequate bioavailable amounts from animal foods. This principle is really important and why nutrition charts are largely wrong. Glycine (and proline too) can theoretically be obtained from a huge range of sources according to nutrition apps, but in concentrations and bioavailabilities appropriate for humans you're pretty much looking at animal foods.

This is why vegans eating massive amounts of protein commonly exhibit symptoms of protein deficiency. Don't listen to food apps, not just regarding protein but minerals and vitamins too.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

All amino acids will only be obtainable in adequate bioavailable amounts from animal foods. This principle is really important and why nutrition charts are largely wrong. Glycine (and proline too) can theoretically be obtained from a huge range of sources according to nutrition apps, but in concentrations and bioavailabilities appropriate for humans you're pretty much looking at animal foods.

Source?

This is why vegans eating massive amounts of protein commonly exhibit symptoms of protein deficiency.

Such as?

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

Source?

You know that eggs have the highest quality protein for humans?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

You know that eggs have the highest quality protein for humans?

Eggs have high protein content, but OP was not saying what the "collagen precursor amino acids" are.

 

[2d v2]

Eggs have high protein content, but OP was not saying what the "collagen precursor amino acids" are.

its straight beef collagen, it is amazing for skin quality. The results started showing after the third week of use, like i look significantly fucking healthier

 

[Mr.Proper]

No protein structure bigger than a few amino acids survives the stomach acid. If you eat collagen it'll be broken down into its constituent aminos and then used by the body. The two most important amino acids to build the precursors to collagen are proline and glycine, which you need to eat animal foods to get adequate amounts. If you're already eating a meat/fish/egg heavy diet then collagen supplementation won't do anything. It's more useful to people eating degenerate standard or plant based diets.

And no, eating organs do not specifically rebuild that organ lmao, that's some African witchdoctor levels of broscience.

To be fair, there were studies which showed that there are collagen peptides and in blood (and not just amino acids) after oral ingestion of collagen supplements, and this study showed they get absorbed by skin https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.6b05679#

 

[Pumanator]

Collagen supplements are just amino acid supplements sold at a markup, after they are broken down in the stomach. Most people are deficient in collagen precursor amino acids (not enough meat in diet) so collagen supps work indirectly by boosting collagen synthesis via amino acid supplementation.

I think its exactly this.
This guy got a medical background and his youtube channel is purely focused on researching what works and what not for longevity.
There is also a other youtube channel and he also recommends it. It's a fitniss channel and he purely advice it for join recovery and lesser chance of injuries.


From what he can found there are studies that shows in a measured way in works.

 

[2d v2]

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I think its exactly this.
This guy got a medical background and his youtube channel is purely focused on researching what works and what not for longevity.
There is also a other youtube channel and he also recommends it. It's a fitniss channel and he purely advice it for join recovery and lesser chance of injuries.


From what he can found there are studies that shows in a measured way in works.

animal proteins mog in the collagen world. You can try plant collagen and it might work too. Ill try it and see if I can go without the beef supps .

But yeah you can get a fucking gigantic bag for like 30 bucks on amazon, like i just eat a few mouthfulls of powder throughout the day, and it lasts like a month.