Being 5+ years younger IRL.

Anyone else doing this?

I am 30yo, being 25yo rn on dating-apps and also IRL. I was thinking about being even younger, like being 23yo, but I realized it would not be giving me much benefit over being 25yo at all. Since even most 18yo foids are fine with dating 25yo's. And being 23yo would mean some 22-24yo women would reject me for not being old enough.

So I think being 25yo is ideal when you are 30yo. I will probably stay at the age of 25yo for the next couple of years. I think I will remain 25 years old untill 35yo.

Thoughts?
You’re 30 years old, too? Damn. Same. Anyway, no, I don’t LARP my age. I always tell my real age. Not that it matters.
 
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Run multiple accounts. I always had two but you could do even more.
As long as the age ranges don’t overlap they will never see you (actually not true, they might have a birthday so you probably have to leave a year gap)

22 for 18-22
28 for 23-32
38 for 33-45+

Honestly you could take this even further and have different nichemaxxed photo sets, your only limits are time, effort, money and the technical knowledge to not get banned.
Yeah so even judging from your age-ranges, if you could only pick one age to make it easy, which age would you pick?

But ur right, age is very fluid and you should always adjust it to circumstances but ofcourse this also has limits with how hard it is to get away with the fraud. On dating-apps u can put any age, but if ur gonna be frauding IRL it's gonna get more tricky when u have different age-personas which converge.

For example IRL I will be frauding 25yo with friends and colleagues at work, so then it would be weird to fraud 22yo when eventually these social-circles meet.

But I think it's good in general to consider age as just a number which can be any number u want that nets you the best results for your looks and situation.
I think personally it makes no sense for me to say that I am 30yo when I am 30yo as there is no benefit and it makes more sense to say 25yo.
 
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I'm 37 and pretend to be 25
 
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Anyone else doing this?

I am 30yo, being 25yo rn on dating-apps and also IRL. I was thinking about being even younger, like being 23yo, but I realized it would not be giving me much benefit over being 25yo at all. Since even most 18yo foids are fine with dating 25yo's. And being 23yo would mean some 22-24yo women would reject me for not being old enough.

So I think being 25yo is ideal when you are 30yo. I will probably stay at the age of 25yo for the next couple of years. I think I will remain 25 years old untill 35yo.

Thoughts?
Reasonable

I wanna larp 22-25 until I'm actually 22-25 and then after larp 25 until my looks allow me
 
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holy shit the level of nostalgia you must get from this
Tbh I am living in my own delusional world where I believe teenagers still live the same life that I did when I was that age.
Meeting up after school to chill IRL, play football, basketball, chill at park, whatever.

I played a lot of videogames myself in my teens, but this was considered a loser-vibe and only the losers dit it a lot.
non-losers were hanging out IRL and not doing videogames.
 
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You’re 30 years old, too? Damn. Same. Anyway, no, I don’t LARP my age. I always tell my real age. Not that it matters.
being thruthfull gives no benefits in life.
It's cool to be able to say how you are always so real and never lie, but really you are only self-sabotaging by doing this.

People like you seem like they take pride in 'being honest and real', but really it's just a weakness in my eyes so I don't get why you would even be proud of it or display it in such way.
And then tbh age is generally just one small aspect. Dont take this topic too seriously. But based on this topic I am also speaking about taking this thing in every aspect of your life. Frauding about everything and anything wherever it can net you results.

This may seem psychopathic or whatever, but it's just normal social-interaction from what I experienced. People always make themselves seem better than they are, they always fraud, in every way possible, wherever they can.
It's a skill to know how to do it and get away with it. Age is just a minor aspect of frauding in general.

ideally you craft an entirely new persona of yousrelf, beyond age, that is ideal, for what you try to achieve.
 
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Mogger, this is good stuff. Any difficulties u came across?
No because I actually look that age.
Obviously it becomes tough if you end up in LTR but I dont trust any women for that anyway
 
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Reasonable

I wanna larp 22-25 until I'm actually 22-25 and then after larp 25 until my looks allow me
Legit.
Being too young is a failo. I was vibing with a lot of hot women who rejected me because I was too young for them.

Then when u get older, being old is a failo cuz u want to date younger girls. So you adjust ur age.

Age is a fluid thing.
 
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No because I actually look that age.
Obviously it becomes tough if you end up in LTR but I dont trust any women for that anyway
Do you avoid LTRs because you are frauding age with the girls ur dating that could potentially become LTRs?
 
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being thruthfull gives no benefits in life.
It's cool to be able to say how you are always so real and never lie, but really you are only self-sabotaging by doing this.

People like you seem like they take pride in 'being honest and real', but really it's just a weakness in my eyes so I don't get why you would even be proud of it or display it in such way.
And then tbh age is generally just one small aspect. Dont take this topic too seriously. But based on this topic I am also speaking about taking this thing in every aspect of your life. Frauding about everything and anything wherever it can net you results.

This may seem psychopathic or whatever, but it's just normal social-interaction from what I experienced. People always make themselves seem better than they are, they always fraud, in every way possible, wherever they can.
It's a skill to know how to do it and get away with it. Age is just a minor aspect of frauding in general.

ideally you craft an entirely new persona of yousrelf, beyond age, that is ideal, for what you try to achieve.
Fair analysis. Yes, I like being truthful; but I wouldn’t say I take pride in it. I am mainly motivated by religious/cultural beliefs, and one of those beliefs is being honest. Some people have actually encouraged me to lie or conceal things, funnily enough. Now obviously, a lot of people from the same cultural or religious background won’t be honest themselves, but I don’t care about that. I am not seeking to impress others. I do agree that being honest doesn’t give you benefits in life. I’ve had situations where being honest led to very bad outcomes for me. But it is what it is. I won’t let people change me. And that is something I do take pride in.
 
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Do you avoid LTRs because you are frauding age with the girls ur dating that could potentially become LTRs?
No but I try not to get too attached and try to keep options open.
Even if you're not frauding age id recommend doing that anyway
 
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Age is just a number bro.
You are old as your hairline (fin+min fixes this) and skin (tret fixes this) is.
I still get asked for ID when trying to enter a nightclub and I am older than you.
 
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Fair analysis. Yes, I like being truthful; but I wouldn’t say I take pride in it. I am mainly motivated by religious/cultural beliefs, and one of those beliefs is being honest. Some people have actually encouraged me to lie or conceal things, funnily enough. Now obviously, a lot of people from the same cultural or religious background won’t be honest themselves, but I don’t care about that. I am not seeking to impress others. I do agree that being honest doesn’t give you benefits in life. I’ve had situations where being honest led to very bad outcomes for me. But it is what it is. I won’t let people change me. And that is something I do take pride in.
I think your mindset is amazing, I am just worried about how hard you are making it for yourself tbh and whether it suits your current life circumstances and how realistic it is to get your goals met if you are unwilling to fraud.

I would've loved to see you with a wife, kids, family, happy and telling me about this. How you don't need to fraud and can just be yourself, because you have this ideal life you want. But this is not the case. But I guess people like this wouldn't ever be on forums like this anyways.

So yeah I ofcourse like your mindset as being this nice ideal idea of how life should be. But then I think in reality you need to be brutal to get results.
Is what it is.
 
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Age is just a number bro.
You are old as your hairline (fin+min fixes this) and skin (tret fixes this) is.
I still get asked for ID when trying to enter a nightclub and I am older than you.
i agree. You are only as old as you look
 
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Yeah so even judging from your age-ranges, if you could only pick one age to make it easy, which age would you pick?

But ur right, age is very fluid and you should always adjust it to circumstances but ofcourse this also has limits with how hard it is to get away with the fraud. On dating-apps u can put any age, but if ur gonna be frauding IRL it's gonna get more tricky when u have different age-personas which converge.

For example IRL I will be frauding 25yo with friends and colleagues at work, so then it would be weird to fraud 22yo when eventually these social-circles meet.

But I think it's good in general to consider age as just a number which can be any number u want that nets you the best results for your looks and situation.
I think personally it makes no sense for me to say that I am 30yo when I am 30yo as there is no benefit and it makes more sense to say 25yo.

Probably I’d pick 25 as it’s a natural cutoff point in both directions. 18-25 for the younger girls or 25-35 for the older ones would be likely age range settings.

You also have to be realistic about how much you can actually fraud it. I couldn’t pass for early 20s now.

I think the younger you can LARP the better though as you will pass through all the ages as your LARP ages over the years and the true process of aging takes its toll on your face and body.
 
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Age is just a number bro.
You are old as your hairline (fin+min fixes this) and skin (tret fixes this) is.
I still get asked for ID when trying to enter a nightclub and I am older than you.
I stopped getting checked for ID once I got a good stubble. But I think it suits me for frauding 25yo tbh, I dont't mind that I am not being checked for ID anymore.
I could shave all my facial-hair and start pretending to be younger again, getting checked for ID again, but for me it serves no purpose. I am fine with being 25 years old.

I am 25 years old. I am fine with not being checked for ID.
I dont think I am missing out with this age. 18yo's generally dont reject 25yos cuz of age.
 
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Probably I’d pick 25 as it’s a natural cutoff point in both directions. 18-25 for the younger girls or 25-35 for the older ones would be likely age range settings.

You also have to be realistic about how much you can actually fraud it. I couldn’t pass for early 20s now.

I think the younger you can LARP the better though as you will pass through all the ages as your LARP ages over the years and the true process of aging takes its toll on your face and body.
Yeah it depends on life circumstances tbh.

Age is this fluid thing, but I agree with you that in general it is to be as young as possible.
Which is why I will try to be 25 years old for as long as I can.
 
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Yeah it depends on life circumstances tbh.

Age is this fluid thing, but I agree with you that in general it is to be as young as possible.
Which is why I will try to be 25 years old for as long as I can.

You can’t stay 25 to the same people though. You’d have to constantly be meeting new people and discarding the old ones within a year so nobody ever sees you turn 26.

It’s very easy to get caught in your own lies. So really you stay 25 until you meet someone worth aging for.
 
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You can’t stay 25 to the same people though. You’d have to constantly be meeting new people and discarding the old ones within a year so nobody ever sees you turn 26.

It’s very easy to get caught in your own lies. So really you stay 25 until you meet someone worth aging for.
My social-interactions are very fluid, I meet new people constantly at parties, events, raves, etc. At my studies, new job, and so on too.

I rarely have these friendships that last years. Generally I am on a holiday, or at a festival, and meet new people non-stop. And I have some other contacts which I met similarly.

It works for me with this lifestyle, depending on lifestyle you need to adjust your age so that it fits you.
 
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it's a niche right.

U think it's easier to be real age and go for only this niche of girls who want older men, instead of frauding younger age and going for every average foid?

I’d say which is easier depends on two things. First is if you feel like you need to be honest in order to be confident, I know that some guys don’t but I do, frauding anything or even some softmaxxing shit just makes me high inhib. I feel like I can’t lie about my age because what if she sees my ID or some paperwork in my room or looks me up on some stalker website (which girls do), I can’t wear colored contacts because what if she sees a picture of me with brown eyes, I can’t wear shoe lifts because what happens when I take them off, etc. I keep it real for my own sake.

The other is, girls fucking older guys is kind of a niche but it’s more something they do in specific phases of their lives and/or for specific reasons. And that’s when they take the apps more seriously, they’re using them to get guys they might not have access to in real life, ie older. It’s a smaller niche but the girls are much more determined.

Because I was on the apps on and off in my 20s and did terrible. Barely any matches and no dates ever, not even one. But after I turned 30 it was completely different, I had my age filter set to 18-24 and matching with much hotter girls and them messaging first, one who was 19 invited me over at like 2 am one night and that was my first ever app slay. I still don’t like the apps and wanna meet girls in person instead, which I have ideas for, but I don’t see any need to lie about my age.
 
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Age is just a number bro.
You are old as your hairline (fin+min fixes this) and skin (tret fixes this) is.
I still get asked for ID when trying to enter a nightclub and I am older than you.

Exactly this, they see a guy, not a number. So if a girl ever rejects you supposedly for age or any other arbitrary reason, the problem is not that reason, the problem is that she wasn’t attracted or serious enough in the first place. Age is a filter that they can and do waive, muh age pill is too arbitrary of thinking.
 
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Anyone else doing this?

I am 30yo, being 25yo rn on dating-apps and also IRL. I was thinking about being even younger, like being 23yo, but I realized it would not be giving me much benefit over being 25yo at all. Since even most 18yo foids are fine with dating 25yo's. And being 23yo would mean some 22-24yo women would reject me for not being old enough.

So I think being 25yo is ideal when you are 30yo. I will probably stay at the age of 25yo for the next couple of years. I think I will remain 25 years old untill 35yo.

Thoughts?
Agepill is such cope, I am early 20s and know so many foids actively pining for older guys and they are younger than me even. Younger foids get turned on when they can seduce an older guy. Most of the users here who kvetch most about it were already incels to begin with, failures to launch, brokecels, or just low on the socioeconomic ladder. Aka they were incels in their youth and incels in their 30s
 
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In UK they would crucify you if you're subchad and tried this
I haver friends I talk to in UK and they say agecuck isnt a thing there. Also pedophilia is very normalized there in general
 
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Anyone else doing this?

I am 30yo, being 25yo rn on dating-apps and also IRL. I was thinking about being even younger, like being 23yo, but I realized it would not be giving me much benefit over being 25yo at all. Since even most 18yo foids are fine with dating 25yo's. And being 23yo would mean some 22-24yo women would reject me for not being old enough.

So I think being 25yo is ideal when you are 30yo. I will probably stay at the age of 25yo for the next couple of years. I think I will remain 25 years old untill 35yo.

Thoughts?
Utter ramblings lol
 
Utter ramblings lol
90% of the users here are social failures and have to resort to hardmaxxing and the apps to even get their foot in the door (myself semi included). Foids in my circles all have daddy issues and actively go after older guys. The issue is most users here are high inhib autists who have no other outlets other than apps or running night game
 
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Exactly this, they see a guy, not a number. So if a girl ever rejects you supposedly for age or any other arbitrary reason, the problem is not that reason, the problem is that she wasn’t attracted or serious enough in the first place. Age is a filter that they can and do waive, muh age pill is too arbitrary of thinking.
Yeah the most staunch agepillers like PGM are usually just bitter they missed out on muh teen love. Its mostly PSL brainrot, a NT 34 year old tallfag hmtn probably has more irl appeal than the majority of hardmaxxer autists
 
Exactly this, they see a guy, not a number. So if a girl ever rejects you supposedly for age or any other arbitrary reason, the problem is not that reason, the problem is that she wasn’t attracted or serious enough in the first place. Age is a filter that they can and do waive, muh age pill is too arbitrary of thinking.
I read your post about proximity based dating and the rise of sugaring arrangements and I see it with my own eyes tbh. I have had several foids admit me to they use sugaring apps and they don't have sex unless some money is involved or they know the guy. Most users here have neither money nor social connections so they rely on apps that are already heavily male skewed.
 
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I read your post about proximity based dating and the rise of sugaring arrangements and I see it with my own eyes tbh. I have had several foids admit me to they use sugaring apps and they don't have sex unless some money is involved or they know the guy. Most users here have neither money nor social connections so they rely on apps that are already heavily male skewed.

Exactly and I can go into detail about this again. You have to try to look from the inside out into a girl’s life. The guys in her proximity, mostly same age peer groups, is the starting point and a lot of the time is enough for her. However there are a lot of things that can make her wanna branch out and start looking at other types of guys like older, foreign, different race, etc. And it’s not just the guys themselves but also the experiences and growth they can offer her.

With age gap in particular, there’s many different things that girls can get out of older guys, so there’s different lanes to this. With money, sometimes it’s explicit (“buy me a ranch in Montana”, “take me to Greece”, etc.) but it can also be more HQNPish, more and more young women nowadays watch trad wife type stuff that can make them want older men (better providers). With sex, they can feel like they need a guy who doesn’t flinch, doesn’t overcomplicate her, has authority, many other things that kinda only the biggest and most developed guys can offer earlier on in life. When you look at teenage pregnancy, the guys are usually the most mature, even ogreish looking dudes in the school, that’s who’s actually fucking.

And this all seems pretty universal across all looks levels, races, classes, it’s more about where she is in life than what type of girl she is.
 
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In UK they would crucify you if you're subchad and tried this
Everytime its always post-wall women that did exactly this before hitting the wall JFL
 
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