Being a pua coach, is a cool job if you have low morals.

[eduardkoopman]

Because you get students, to pay for your travels. And you organise bootcamps to countries where it's easy for a foreigner/white guy to attract local women.

Obviously the students just get gaslighting.

But you the coach, get money for your travels and income.

Immoral though, imo.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

faccs

 

[Chadeep]

Some coach made 500k by training 8-10 students insane ngl.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Some coach made 500k

Good scam income

by training 8-10 students insane ngl.

By gaslighting 8-10 students.
They never tell a manlet or ugly guy, how hard of a time they will have.

Like this example.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

you get mad exercise doing the jog approach too

 

[Deleted member 2403]

muh morals muh morals muh morals

meanwhile every human only cares about themselves in the end

 

[Deleted member 2968]

Some coach made 500k by training 8-10 students insane ngl.

They could had paid top tier escorts

 

[eduardkoopman]

muh morals muh morals muh morals

meanwhile every human only cares about themselves in the end

Still people restrict their actions, on how to get what they want. Based on things like empathy, sympathy, rules, morals, believes, etc...

 

[Deleted member 2403]

Still people restrict their actions, on how to get what they want. Based on things like empathy, sympathy, rules, morals, believes, etc...

empathy doesn't exist, it's a social construct

everyone is selfish as fuck but virtue signals

 

[Deleted member 2403]

@thinwhiteduke empathy does exist but so many people fake it like women do to get simps

 

[eduardkoopman]

empathy doesn't exist, it's a social construct

It's something that generally starts to develop after a certain age in childhood. If one lacks empathy 100%, one is considered to have a personality disorder.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

It's something that generally starts to develop after a certain age in childhood. If one lacks empathy 100%, one is considered to have a personality disorder.

no one has empathy for incels

 

[eduardkoopman]

They could had paid top tier escorts

yeah, if just for sex interest. It's the better route to go escort.
BUT, most guys are looking ALSO for: etting sexual and SMV validation from women. And that kind of validation, you can't get from escorts.

Only when a woman want you, while she has the option not to (aka not 100% transactional); only than do you gte SMV validation. A confirmation of you value on the dating market.

Many normies cope, that they are not in a trasactlional relatinship by the way. While they 100% are.

 

[eduardkoopman]

you get mad exercise doing the jog approach too

It's very healthy, to do 10,000 steps per day.

Dunno if the stress, from countless rejections, is a health minus though

 

[Deusmaximus]

Most pua guys are now doing business coaching.
This guy max tornow was one of the most famous rsd puas, and now totally switched to business.



This dude was also a big pua coach, and now deleted all of his videos and turned into a business expert.
Back then:


Now:

 

[Deleted member 2968]

yeah, if just for sex interest. It's the better route to go escort.
BUT, most guys are looking ALSO for: etting sexual and SMV validation from women. And that kind of validation, you can't get from escorts.

Only when a woman want you, while she has the option not to (aka not 100% transactional); only than do you gte SMV validation. A confirmation of you value on the dating market.

Many normies cope, that they are not in a trasactlional relatinship by the way. While they 100% are.

I know,they didn't know shit and probably are still struggling due to their lack of knowledge and they lost plenty of money.One video from FaceAndLMS would have fixed all of their problems.Idgaf about love it doesn't exist.Love isn't when someone loves you because of facial features,it's when someone loves you the way you are,but appareantly that isn't possible.The most succesful thing is getting girls without spending money on them,but sadly only available for Chads

 

[zikzog]

Being a coach or teacher in anything is a good deal. 99.9% people who pay for what you teach are not going to implement what you do and will never reach your heights so you'll have very little competition. This is why being really good at something then teaching it is a safe job.

 

[wristcel]

James Tusk quit his extremely highly paid city job as a London broker to be a PUA coach as he realised he could make more and instead of starring at screens, he's travelling and banging hot girls and getting paid bank by retards to say 'go apporach her!'

Kesia Noble makes about 5k per week selling the same shit to wealthier, older clients

ps - she's quite hot

 

[eduardkoopman]

James Tusk quit his extremely highly paid city job as a London broker to be a PUA coach as he realised he could make more and instead of starring at screens, he's travelling and banging hot girls and getting paid bank by retards to say 'go apporach her!'

I checked a video of him once.

After YEARS, of this pua stuff.

He starts and advices to start convo's by kinda jumping in front of women. And saying: "i saw you walking. And I think you look hot/cute/etc..)"
That's a very common thing to say. Why pay thousands for that.

 

[wristcel]

I checked a video of him once.

After YEARS, of this pua stuff.

He starts and advices to start convo's by kinda jumping in front of women. And saying: "i saw you walking. And I think you look hot/cute/etc..)"
That's a very common thing to say. Why pay thousands for that.

well part of the problem is that this pua stuff is basically common sense. It only needs to be 'learnt' by people who don't know that it's good to hold eye contact etc. Or that Like 'teasing' is just something normal people do but it's ''taught' in PUA books etc.
Or, 'Don't stay on a certain subject for too long. Change subjects from time to time''. Well, no shit!

PUA is kind of teaching people how to be normal. But it doesn't give someone an 'edge'. There's no such thing as 'seduction'. She either thinks your handsome/hot, or she doesn't lol.

 

[Deleted member 11630]

Most pua guys are now doing business coaching.
This guy max tornow was one of the most famous rsd puas, and now totally switched to business.



This dude was also a big pua coach, and now deleted all of his videos and turned into a business expert.
Back then:


Now:

Yea they switched from scamming people with Pua to scamming people with online businesses. They have 0 morals and tbh they deserve to be tortured for the shit they do.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yea they switched from scamming people with Pua to scamming people with online businesses. They have 0 morals and tbh they deserve to be tortured for the shit they do.

yeah. the internet is full of scammy products.
* how to become a dropshipper
* pua training
* starting an online business
* becoming a coach programms
* blablabla

Anyone falling for hthis. brutals.

If you wanna make big money. Start a company, and try to make it work. And don't start a copy-paste business; that some prgramm teaches you to start. In general. But come up with own idea, or emmulate existing businesses that do well.

If you have ZERO creativity. Than you can fall for these scamms. Actually beleiving you can buy a programm on how to start a great business. Even if the prgramm worked. After 100 students doing the prgramm, the marketplace is flooded with compentition, and the new ones will not make money. And will maybe ruin the profits, of the already existing ones even. Due to compentition overlaod

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

empathy doesn't exist, it's a social construct

everyone is selfish as fuck but virtue signals

Tbh selfish gene richard dawkins

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

no one has empathy for incels

Maby

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

yeah, if just for sex interest. It's the better route to go escort.
BUT, most guys are looking ALSO for: etting sexual and SMV validation from women. And that kind of validation, you can't get from escorts.

Only when a woman want you, while she has the option not to (aka not 100% transactional); only than do you gte SMV validation. A confirmation of you value on the dating market.

Many normies cope, that they are not in a trasactlional relatinship by the way. While they 100% are.

Tbh thats was the only guy who got a good wife from it. He could afford her, had some weird kinky arrangement with the previous wife (i think they were open couples) and kids were happy. What’s there to complain.

 

[Deleted member 11630]

yeah. the internet is full of scammy products.
* how to become a dropshipper
* pua training
* starting an online business
* becoming a coach programms
* blablabla

Anyone falling for hthis. brutals.

If you wanna make big money. Start a company, and try to make it work. And don't start a copy-paste business; that some prgramm teaches you to start. In general. But come up with own idea, or emmulate existing businesses that do well.

If you have ZERO creativity. Than you can fall for these scamms. Actually beleiving you can buy a programm on how to start a great business. Even if the prgramm worked. After 100 students doing the prgramm, the marketplace is flooded with compentition, and the new ones will not make money. And will maybe ruin the profits, of the already existing ones even. Due to compentition overlaod

Yeah my brother fell for this shit and payed 4k euros. His coach already had like 200 clients so the marketplace is flooded and it is a complete war for even making a little bit of money from this shit. I dont wanna go into details but it is an amazon business where you basically outsource book writing and then you sell the books with the right marketing.

10 years ago it would make sense but 2021 too much competition.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Tbh thats was the only guy who got a good wife from it. He could afford her, had some weird kinky arrangement with the previous wife (i think they were open couples) and kids were happy. What’s there to complain.

Yeah. I think he got a good wife out of it. She was do-able to deal with. She mogged him in looks alot. And he basically compensates, with his money to make up for the looks gap/difference.

It's an okay trade off. Why not. When you have enough money.

BUT. He should not say, he never paid for sex/women. because he is paying.

I'm totally find with the xchange though. I could consider it also. Whne I'm old and ugly, and got alot of money. Why not, just BetaBuxx for some time.
I just can't stand these BetaBuxxers, whom cry about it afterwards on how much money it costed and they getto pay alot of alimony. Dude, you know what you sign up for. Your ugly ass,gets to be with a much better looking woman, because you pay it and will have to pay up.

That guy his ex-wide was not weird imo.
They still have young chldren, and thus are bound together through that. PLus he stillBuxxed for his ex wife, to give a good life and the kids alos. Which is adecent thing to do, when you are having alot of money and you actually like your ex, but you just wanna trade up in looks.

Bitching about having done BetaBuxxing
Is for whinners.
If you don't wanna betaBuxx. Than either be good looking, or settle below or maybe at you looks level, or if you are ugly you will have to stay single 4 life.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

empathy doesn't exist, it's a social construct

everyone is selfish as fuck but virtue signals

just lol

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah my brother fell for this shit and payed 4k euros. His coach already had like 200 clients so the marketplace is flooded and it is a complete war for even making a little bit of money from this shit. I dont wanna go into details but it is an amazon business where you basically outsource book writing and then you sell the books with the right marketing.

10 years ago it would make sense but 2021 too much competition.

I don't understand, how these people don't understand the concept of: competition. You will have giga competition, when you start a pre made bsuiness, that alot of epople are doing also.
For business, you need creativity, and coming up with own things and ways. Not copy paste. Copy-Paste attitude; is great for employees and workers; not for business owners. As a business owner, you need to outsmart, and out compete others in smart, creative, and whatever ways. Not be like al the rest; but have an edge, or be in the lead due to whatever reason

 

[IdiAmin]

People forget how PUA was promoted back in the day, Strauss was a NYT and RS journalist, Mystery had his show on VH1 and they were invited to late nighr shows and treated like the Gods of Seduction, they organized this scam first and paved the way for their copycats

And to fall for that today you have to be really desperate

 

[eduardkoopman]

empathy does exist

muh morals muh morals muh morals

meanwhile every human only cares about themselves in the end

One can be seflish, put oneself first, etc..
AND,. also have the empathy trait developed (to whatever levels).

They are not 1 and the same thing, at all.

Empathy means: being able to see the others perspective and things like that.

 

[AlexAP]

yeah, if just for sex interest. It's the better route to go escort.
BUT, most guys are looking ALSO for: etting sexual and SMV validation from women. And that kind of validation, you can't get from escorts.

Only when a woman want you, while she has the option not to (aka not 100% transactional); only than do you gte SMV validation. A confirmation of you value on the dating market.

Many normies cope, that they are not in a trasactlional relatinship by the way. While they 100% are.

Damn, does she look good in these Reddit pics.

I still think that guy should have looksmaxed before going that route. He could have find an attractive woman in her 20s (probably late 20s) or early 30s who is not ONLY there for the money if he would have stayed lean, kept a full head of hair, gymmaxxed and skincaremaxxed. Now he has to hope that the woman stays happy with the "transaction". I'm not against betabuxxing when you're old, but he didn't even try to NOT betabux. Men can stay good-looking until 45-50 if they put in effort.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Damn, does she look good in these Reddit pics.

I still think that guy should have looksmaxed before going that route. He could have find an attractive woman in her 20s (probably late 20s) or early 30s who is not ONLY there for the money if he would have stayed lean, kept a full head of hair, gymmaxxed and skincaremaxxed. Now he has to hope that the woman stays happy with the "transaction". I'm not against betabuxxing when you're old, but he didn't even try to NOT betabux. Men can stay good-looking until 45-50 if they put in effort.

yeah, she is Stacy.

I agree, the dude has and had potential to look plenty better than he does. Espacially also, with the money he got; he could get there faster with good help he could afford to pay for.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Because you get students, to pay for your travels. And you organise bootcamps to countries where it's easy for a foreigner/white guy to attract local women.

Obviously the students just get gaslighting.

But you the coach, get money for your travels and income.

Immoral though, imo.

All, on the dimes of the students!

And, are they busy all day long, helping theire students succeed?
Nope, they collect the money for a shitty product.
And the whole day, they spent their time traveling, shopping, drinking, eating,

Why the fuck, do guys fall for this??
And these students that fall for it, DEFFO will call themselfes alpha's

 

[eduardkoopman]

This thread: s me. XD.

Alot of former, PUA Dating coaches have moved on.

For example "johnny wolff"
Used to be pua dating coach.
now seels people th cope idea of becoming a entrepreneur.

It's all marketing.

Old times.






Now times.

 

[wristcel]