being an incel is stressful as fuck

i have an uncle with extreme social phobia who is a giga abused dog due to giga shit parenting

he is an LTRless KHHV at 60 years old who still lives with his parents.
That's just sad (Not judging him. He has his reasons of why he ended up the way he did. Simply saying is it's sad anyone turned out like him)

Even I've had more luck than him
 
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sadly im below ltn and no amount of confidence will ascend me

good for you though
even with my confidence in some cases people still saw me as a “strange” person trough Im absolutely normal. black pill hits hard
 
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That's just sad (Not judging him. He has his reasons of why he ended up the way he did. Simply saying is it's sad anyone turned out like him)

Even I've had more luck than him
yep. brutal life of an abused dog.
 
i have the same problem, i come from wealthy parents, and look pretty good, girls even try to approach me but it never fully works out because i am probably an autist, i have always ran away from girls when they tried to approach me since kindergarten.
Of course i dont do that anymore, but subconsiously i do the same thing. i just shut myself off emotionally and i dont know why. i am yet to be diagnosed by my pscyhiatrist but i am probably really ND if i have trouble speaking to adult blonde women
Foids rarely approach me.

The last time I remember it happening was 7 years ago. Some foid approached me in the merch line at a festival. We spent the rest of the festival together, went out to eat after, yet I apparently drove her away (because there was no 2nd date)
 
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Just stop worrying about it man. You didn't stick your dick in pussy. That's the end of the world? You're still alive and still have a good chance. If you want to stick your dick in a pussy at some point in your life you have to start hopemaxxing because honestly being depressed and low energy turns pussy dry faster than anything else. Energy is the currency of life. Low energy is the least attractive thing possible.
 
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hes

hes not an autist

he just had really really really bad parents who fucking ruined his life
same but not this cruel. bad parenting really can make incels from us and it’s sad true, never ending cycle
 
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I'm 33.

I use a condom most the time.
uh... 33? your close to my dads age lol, do u enjoy escorting more than said "free" sex? in terms of actual enjoyment, who puts in more enthusiasm
 
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Just stop worrying about it man. You didn't stick your dick in pussy. That's the end of the world? You're still alive and still have a good chance. If you want to stick your dick in a pussy at some point in your life you have to start hopemaxxing because honestly being depressed and low energy turns pussy dry faster than anything else. Energy is the currency of life. Low energy is the least attractive thing possible.
oversimplifying things doesn't make it not matter
 
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same but not this cruel. bad parenting really can make incels from us and it’s sad true, never ending cycle
Here's some bad parenting: As a teen, my mom made me go out to eat with peers I didn't want to (nor did they want me there)

Yet when I had peers who actually wanted to be friends with me, my mom wouldn't let us be friends.
 
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uh... 33? your close to my dads age lol, do u enjoy escorting more than said "free" sex? in terms of actual enjoyment, who puts in more enthusiasm
just incel life mate
 
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It's an illusion
 
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Foids rarely approach me.

The last time I remember it happening was 7 years ago. Some foid approached me in the merch line at a festival. We spent the rest of the festival together, went out to eat after, yet I apparently drove her away (because there was no 2nd date)
i only had good interaction with foids when im drunk, but i dont think those really count
without anything to help me drive away my fear of foids i can never talk to them without freaking out
 
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Here's some bad parenting: As a teen, my mom made me go out to eat with peers I didn't want to (nor did they want me there)

Yet when I had peers who actually wanted to be friends with me, my mom wouldn't let us be friends.
sorry but retarded mum. some of my friends have same problem but still go out with friends they want, not mum choice
 
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uh... 33? your close to my dads age lol, do u enjoy escorting more than said "free" sex? in terms of actual enjoyment, who puts in more enthusiasm
I am pretty old compared to a majority of this forum. No surprise I'm close in age to your dad.

As for whether I enjoy escorting more than free sex, no. Free sex is more enjoyable. Yet I have a hard time getting free sex (so I settle for escorting)

A free woman is more enthusiastic because she actually wants to fuck. Many escorts are good actors (in terms of making the client feel desired)...but that doesn't change the fact that the escort obviously doesn't genuinely desire the client.
 
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i only had good interaction with foids when im drunk, but i dont think those really count
without anything to help me drive away my fear of foids i can never talk to them without freaking out
I refuse to let myself get drunk. I always stop myself before getting drunk.
 
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I refuse to let myself get drunk. I always stop myself before getting drunk.
im 17 and have no other way to truely feel happy because all i desire is a stable relationship and possibly already gettng married like my parents at 18
 
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Just stop worrying about it man. You didn't stick your dick in pussy. That's the end of the world? You're still alive and still have a good chance. If you want to stick your dick in a pussy at some point in your life you have to start hopemaxxing because honestly being depressed and low energy turns pussy dry faster than anything else. Energy is the currency of life. Low energy is the least attractive thing possible.
it goes deeper than just getting pussy. i want to experience love.
 
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same but not this cruel. bad parenting really can make incels from us and it’s sad true, never ending cycle
yep, i tried explaining to my dad that my uncles life is fucked up due to shit parenting and he disagrees although him and his brother admitted they were neglected as children.
 
yep, i tried explaining to my dad that my uncles life is fucked up due to shit parenting and he disagrees although him and his brother admitted they were neglected as children.
my dads mom didn't love him otherwise he grow up good person
 
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I am pretty old compared to a majority of this forum. No surprise I'm close in age to your dad.

As for whether I enjoy escorting more than free sex, no. Free sex is more enjoyable. Yet I have a hard time getting free sex (so I settle for escorting)

A free woman is more enthusiastic because she actually wants to fuck. Many escorts are good actors (in terms of making the client feel desired)...but that doesn't change the fact that the escort obviously doesn't genuinely desire the client.
hhmm, a few things, i agree with that, but in terms of generalized public, it seems like most women in the age bracket similar to yours, use sex rather then just desire sex, expressed in ways of feeling like they owe it, to keep power, for financial benefits (even if your dating) its a murky line to define what free sex is, finding a women that actually desires you? that sex is what im referring to

also yeah, i'd imagine it to be depressing to knowing the escort is just acting but, most things in life are acting for benefits, people to their boss, acting more favorably/nice to impress or maintain the job, friends, not giving truthful criticism, its everywhere, i think it would be unfair to just call out the escort for it, and anyway, i cant imagine being to conscious about it during it because your not thinking rationally anyways
 
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Be an incel? Holy cortisol spike, I'll pass
 
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99% sounds like a stretch.
but sadly it’s true. nowadays love is always based on wealth, looks and other shit. People live together Not because of love, but because of something important shit like kids, house, fear of loneliness, etc
 
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very relatable
 
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but sadly it’s true. nowadays love is always based on wealth, looks and other shit. People live together Not because of love, but because of something important shit like kids, house, fear of loneliness, etc
thats why its important to get it in your teen years, when most of this doesnt matter. all it takes to get teen love is to be neurotypical and genetically a normie.
 
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ah but you didnt mention true love
True love it’s not teenage shit when you together for like 1 to 3 years and then break up and get new partner but still love previous
 
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True love it’s not teenage shit when you together for like 1 to 3 years and then break up and get new partner but still love previous
my parents found each other in their teen years my mom was 16 and my dad was 18 they are now together for 40 years why cant i marry at 18 with a virgin like my dad
 
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thats why its important to get it in your teen years, when most of this doesnt matter. all it takes to get teen love is to be neurotypical and genetically a normie.
Teen love is only for experience, beta test of adult life
 
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my parents found each other in their teen years my mom was 16 and my dad was 18 they are not together for 40 years why cant i marry at 18 with a virgin like my dad
one in a million case
 
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the experience that most of us missed out on, brutal.
Even more brutal is that bad experience is still experience. Growing through pain is truth worthy classic and better than nothing (but can make you incel) also better than when you have everything on your plate and don’t know about suffering
 
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hhmm, a few things, i agree with that, but in terms of generalized public, it seems like most women in the age bracket similar to yours, use sex rather then just desire sex, expressed in ways of feeling like they owe it, to keep power, for financial benefits (even if your dating) its a murky line to define what free sex is, finding a women that actually desires you? that sex is what im referring to

also yeah, i'd imagine it to be depressing to knowing the escort is just acting but, most things in life are acting for benefits, people to their boss, acting more favorably/nice to impress or maintain the job, friends, not giving truthful criticism, its everywhere, i think it would be unfair to just call out the escort for it, and anyway, i cant imagine being to conscious about it during it because your not thinking rationally anyways
You're right, even a lot of "free" foids make a man indirectly pay for sex.

Somehow, a lot of betabuxxers have the idea that their arrangement is superior to mine. The fact of the matter, however, is: The betabuxxer is paying for sex too (the only difference is he indirectly pays a wife/girlfriend for sex, while I directly pay an escort)

And yeah, in order for me to fuck escorts, I need to put 2 facts out of my mind:

-The fact she's only acting
-The fact she's probably been with dozens of other men in the past week
 
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Even more brutal is that bad experience is still experience. Growing through pain is truth worthy classic and better than nothing (but can make you incel) also better than when you have everything on your plate and don’t know about suffering
simply put, if u didnt experience love in your teen years it is going to significantly harm your dating life going forward.
 
You're right, even a lot of "free" foids make a man indirectly pay for sex.

Somehow, a lot of betabuxxers have the idea that their arrangement is superior to mine. The fact of the matter, however, is: The betabuxxer is paying for sex too (the only difference is he indirectly pays a wife/girlfriend for sex, while I directly pay an escort)
ive said this for so long.

betabuxxing is escortmaxxing with extra steps.
 
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simply put, if u didnt experience love in your teen years it is going to significantly harm your dating life going forward.
you just gonna be retarded in terms of relationships, but that not this harmful
 
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ive said this for so long.

betabuxxing is escortmaxxing with extra steps.
Yeah. The only real benefit of betabuxxing (compared to escortmaxxing) is that your wife hasn't been with dozens of other men in the past week.

Still, escortmaxxing comes with a benefit betabuxxing doesn't: You don't have to maintain the relationship with an escort. After a session, I don't even have to talk to an escort again until I'm ready to book my next session.

Another benefit of escortmaxxing that I just thought of: A betabuxxed wife is less likely to be fetish-friendly than an escort

Chances are a betabuxxed wife would refuse to let her beta husband watch her pee. Yet escorts let me watch while they pee.
 
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Yeah. The only real benefit of betabuxxing (compared to escortmaxxing) is that your wife hasn't been with dozens of other men in the past week.

Still, escortmaxxing comes with a benefit betabuxxing doesn't: You don't have to maintain the relationship with an escort. After a session, I don't even have to talk to an escort again until I'm ready to book my next session.

Another benefit of escortmaxxing that I just thought of: A betabuxxed wife is less likely to be fetish-friendly than an escort

Chances are a betabuxxed wife would refuse to let her beta husband watch her pee. Yet escorts let me watch while they pee.
fucking lol at betabuxxing.

if i genuinely cant ascend from inceldom in college i will just escortmaxx.
 
fucking lol at betabuxxing.

if i genuinely cant ascend from inceldom in college i will just escortmaxx.
Even in marriages where the husband isn't betabuxxing, marriage would be miserable for me.
 
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