Being average isn't as bad as it sounds.

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By definition 15-20 percent of people in a fit healthy population are good looking, 15-20% are genuinely ugly and the rest are in between and or average.

If you are an average looking guy the way women view your looks will fall into a normal distribution. That means that 15% of women will find you as attractive as a top 20% guy and 15-20% will find you ugly and unfuckable. 15% is a larger percent than you think. It means if you go to a party, 1 in every 6 women you approach will find you cute and attractive, another 1 in 6 will find you ugly and spit in your face, 2 out of 6 will find you unattractive but not outright ugly and another 2 in 6 might consider you if they are drunk or you have solid game.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/X3jz5mriJeWi2uLdF/how-subjective-is-attractiveness (source)

However as this forum will say, being attractive is whole another world. If you are good looking objectively,50 percent of women will think you are attractive, another 35% will think you look alright and only 13% will find you below average. Only 2% of women will think you are ugly.

Chads life is even more extreme. 85% of women will find him very attractive, 13% will think he is above average and practically no women will find him unattractive.

Thus viewing rates by a normal curve supports the blackpill and shows while chads and HTNs have better lives this doesn't mean your life has to be miserable or you'll be forever alone.
 
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By definition 15-20 percent of people in a fit healthy population are good looking, 15-20% are genuinely ugly and the rest are in between and or average.

If you are an average looking guy the way women view your looks will fall into a normal distribution. That means that 15% of women will find you as attractive as a top 20% guy and 15-20% will find you ugly and unfuckable. 15% is a larger percent than you think. It means if you go to a party, 1 in every 6 women you approach will find you cute and attractive, another 1 in 6 will find you ugly and spit in your face, 2 out of 6 will find you unattractive but not outright ugly and another 2 in 6 might consider you if they are drunk or you have solid game.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/X3jz5mriJeWi2uLdF/how-subjective-is-attractiveness (source)

However as this forum will say, being attractive is whole another world. If you are good looking objectively,50 percent of women will think you are attractive, another 35% will think you look alright and only 13% will. find you below average. Only 2% of women will think. you are ugly.

Chads life is even more extreme. 85% of women will find him very attractive, 13% will think he is above average and practically no women will find him unattractive.

Thus viewing rates by a normal curve supports the blackpill and shows. while chad and HTN have better lives this doesn't mean your life has to be miserable or you'll forever alone.
  1. Too bad I'm manlet
  2. Avg man is a faggot
 
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cope harder, normgloid
 
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Imagine being satisfied with mediocrity
 
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Plua if you're average you could looksmax and surely become above average
 
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guy + average = over
 
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Plua if you're average you could looksmax and surely become above average
this, fix your failos and live your life tbh

fantasizing about being chad is delusional
 
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no one wants to be average
 
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no one wants to be average
Problem is most are average and have to learn to live with it. You can try looksmaxxing but the most you can get from. surgery and softmaxxing is about 1 standard deviation of improvement and thats if you are lucky. I'd say .5 a stdv is what most will achieve after looksmaxxing and is a realistic expectation for improvement.

If most on this forum want to be happy they have to accept being average looks wise or a bit above after looksmaxxing. You can be exceptional in other ways. In the end obsessing over looks is a fag and foid trait.
 
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Problem is most are average and have to learn to live with it. You can try looksmaxxing but the most you can get from. surgery and softmaxxing is about 1 standard deviation of improvement and thats if you are lucky. I'd say .5 a stdv is what most will achieve after looksmaxxing and is an improvement.

If most on this forum want to be happy they have to accept being average looks wise or a bit above after looksmaxxing.
yeah i'm just here to shitpost. i laugh at ppl who think they can make such a big leap in life quality. at the very best they can manage to not be hideous looks wise
 
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The average guy fucks and is in a LTR. only the bottom 25% of men are incel
I've made dozens of threads about exactly this topic. being in an ltr doesn't mean that the girl actually legitimately likes you the way you like her.

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and I'm not saying that you need to be above average in every category. you can be average, even below average in one or two categories (height, etc), but if you're an all around average guy that doesn't stand out from the crowd, then why would you ever be someone's first choice? being an average guy in a relationship is not an enviable position to be in. in fact, I'd argue it's just one step above being an inkwell. you were merely considered good and cooperative enough to be someone's cuck boyfriend and get sex in exchange.
 
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Average is good. Most of us are below average in one thing or another, so being average essentially is like having a pretty good base.

Average would mean 5' 9.5" height, 6" penis, and NT. Not bad honestly.
 
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Average is good. Most of us are below average in one thing or another, so being average essentially is like having a pretty good base.

Average would mean 5' 9.5" height, 6" penis, and NT. Not bad honestly.
Being average all over makes you above average tbh. When I say average I mean if you take a random sample of 100 fit healthy young men 18-22 and have a random sample of women rate them, the man that is rated #50 would be average.
 
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Damn i am 3.5 inches away from being average, .5" in cock size but NT. Do u think I can become average or not below sub5
I dont think you're sub5, you're young so your bones have alot more growing to be done. At your age id say youre 5/10
 
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hen why would you ever be someone's first choice
Why would an average women be anyones first choice, even chad can't be someones first choice because someone out there will mog
him

Truth is most of us have to compromise and adjust, we will never be at the top, thats life. The sooner you can live with that the happier you can be.
 
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Why would an average women be anyones first choice, even chad can't be someones first choice because someone out there will mog him
the average woman looks attractive to men. the average man doesn't look attractive to women.
 
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Women don't rate men on a normal bell curve!

Men r ugly
 
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Good life starts at chadlite

Bonus if your parents are rich

Or you’re condemned to a life of wagecucking and fighting for scraps in the hellish sexual marketplace
 
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Just no. There is a famous OK Cupid (they used to be a significant Online dating site, wtf happened to them) survey where women on the site considered 80% of the men on the site below average.

Summary: If you are an average man, women perceive you to be substantially below average.

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Just no. There is a famous OK Cupid (they used to be a significant Online dating site, wtf happened to them) survey where women on the site considered 80% of the men on the site below average.

Summary: If you are an average man, women perceive you to be substantially below average.

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This is what’s speed dating study shows

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This is what’s speed dating study shows

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A. that is a much smaller sample size.
B. Given speed dating is a public activity, It is likely that the responses were less than anonymous, and the women (and also the men) felt pressured to provide socially acceptable responses else they be labeled picky bitches. This seems likely given how tight the distribution is.
C. It isn't clear how unbiased this study was from a mere screen grab.
 
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By definition 15-20 percent of people in a fit healthy population are good looking, 15-20% are genuinely ugly and the rest are in between and or average.

If you are an average looking guy the way women view your looks will fall into a normal distribution. That means that 15% of women will find you as attractive as a top 20% guy and 15-20% will find you ugly and unfuckable. 15% is a larger percent than you think. It means if you go to a party, 1 in every 6 women you approach will find you cute and attractive, another 1 in 6 will find you ugly and spit in your face, 2 out of 6 will find you unattractive but not outright ugly and another 2 in 6 might consider you if they are drunk or you have solid game.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/X3jz5mriJeWi2uLdF/how-subjective-is-attractiveness (source)

However as this forum will say, being attractive is whole another world. If you are good looking objectively,50 percent of women will think you are attractive, another 35% will think you look alright and only 13% will find you below average. Only 2% of women will think you are ugly.

Chads life is even more extreme. 85% of women will find him very attractive, 13% will think he is above average and practically no women will find him unattractive.

Thus viewing rates by a normal curve supports the blackpill and shows while chads and HTNs have better lives this doesn't mean your life has to be miserable or you'll be forever alone.
Cope chad or death
 
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The average guy fucks and is in a LTR. only the bottom 25% of men are incel according to the stats.
Where’s my Becky? I’m within this range I even mogg most Normies somewhat but yet I’m incel where’s my HTN foid
 
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Average is a very broad spectrum, with people on the bottom being borderline ugly , but then the high end average types can be considered "good looking". I consider Ryan Gosling high end average. Most women find him attractive, but he's not model type gorgeous or something. That's what it is in reality.
 
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Average is a very broad spectrum, with people on the bottom being borderline ugly , but then the high end average types can be considered "good looking". I consider Ryan Gosling high end average. Most women find him attractive, but he's not model type gorgeous or something. That's what it is in reality.
Im talkin right in the middle
 

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