Being "fat" isn't always a failo and leanmaxxing is a redpill meme

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Basically, there's fat like Jonah Hill (failo) and then "fat" like a linebacker (teddy bear to women). One is pathetic and the other is a protector. The key being muscular fat vs sloppy fat. Guys who are muscular and fat don't struggle with women. To be told to leanmaxx by all these redpill youtubers is just gymcel coping
 
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it's over. we have several greycels now that promote being obese. this is truly a normie site now where people are too fucking lazy to even lose weight :feelscry:
 
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Holy shit this is so retarded. The average linebacker is 6'4" and statusmaxxed OP. They can afford to be fat.

The average man can't afford to be above 12% body fat if you want to slay.
 
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The niche of women who are into 'bear' guys is very, very small. Then, if you don't have a full head of hair or your face is very ugly as a fat guy, that niche becomes even smaller.

Also, these guys rarely if ever get one night stands or fwb. They can only get relationships with this extremely small niche of women who like chubby men. They also often have to compensate hard with money or status.

If the relationship ends, it could be months or years before they find another woman who is into chubby or fat men.

That's why it's infinitely better to be a lean linebacker with a chiseled jawline and face compared to a fat linebacker, since you are using sport terms.

Dating life in general is just so much easier when you are low body fat. It's also healthier to be low body fat. There are no high body fat male models in existence. Hell, there aren't even any male models who are over 15% body fat. Most of them are around 8-12%. Why does this matter? Because that's your competition on dating apps in 2022.

Also, if you are fat, her friends *will* pressure her and tell her she can do better, or will mock you behind her back when she's not around to hear it. That will eventually demoralize her. Her peers will not find you attractive and it will eat away at a relationship. Unless the woman herself is also very fat and unattractive.
 
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The more muscle you have and the better your bones, the fatter you can be.

If you can have a defined jaw and hollow cheeks and a six pack at 20% BF then it’s a huge win.
 
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it's over. we have several greycels now that promote being obese. this is truly a normie site now where people are too fucking lazy to even lose weight :feelscry:
Nobody said this retard
 
Holy shit this is so retarded. The average linebacker is 6'4" and statusmaxxed OP. They can afford to be fat.

The average man can't afford to be above 12% body fat if you want to slay.
Yes because the discussion is about actual linebackers :rolleyes:

Holy shit nigger

Also 12%? Jfl. At least be realistic. Even being 20% doesn't show as visibly fat in clothes if you have muscles and frame. Maybe your fat distribution pattern is extra fucked.
 
Yes because the discussion is about actual linebackers :rolleyes:

Holy shit nigger
Nobody is going to call a 5'9" fat guy a "protector". Keep coping and stay fat retard.
 
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When I got down to 128.14 lbs 7-day average (126.4 lbs 1-day low) and posted my physique, I got roasted on here for being a femboy. Maybe it's because I'm a turbo-manlet that I'm an exception to the rule? 167cm (5'5.75"). Most of the feedback I've received on the forum was that I should bulk up. I weighed in at 131.8 lbs this morning, 132.4lbs the morning before and 132.4 lbs again the morning before that. My 7-day average is 133.2 lbs. My last ex (she is chubby and has a belly herself) also complained that I'm too scrawny and need to put on muscle. I also received feedback from another overweight woman that I am too skinny.

Is leanmaxxing good or not?
 
The niche of women who are into 'bear' guys is very, very small. Then, if you don't have a full head of hair or your face is very ugly as a fat guy, that niche becomes even smaller.

Also, these guys rarely if ever get one night stands or fwb. They can only get relationships with this extremely small niche of women who like chubby men. They also often have to compensate hard with money or status.

If the relationship ends, it could be months or years before they find another woman who is into chubby or fat men.

That's why it's infinitely better to be a lean linebacker with a chiseled jawline and face compared to a fat linebacker, since you are using sport terms.

Dating life in general is just so much easier when you are low body fat. It's also healthier to be low body fat. There are no high body fat male models in existence. Hell, there aren't even any male models who are over 15% body fat. Most of them are around 8-12%. Why does this matter? Because that's your competition on dating apps in 2022.

Also, if you are fat, her friends *will* pressure her and tell her she can do better, or will mock you behind her back when she's not around to hear it. That will eventually demoralize her. Her peers will not find you attractive and it will eat away at a relationship. Unless the woman herself is also very fat and unattractive.
Notice I said muscular guys who have fat on them vs guys who are fat and have no muscle.
 
When I got down to 128.14 lbs 7-day average (126.4 lbs 1-day low) and posted my physique, I got roasted on here for being a femboy. Maybe it's because I'm a turbo-manlet that I'm an exception to the rule? 167cm (5'5.75"). Most of the feedback I've received on the forum was that I should bulk up. I weighed in at 131.8 lbs this morning, 132.4lbs the morning before and 132.4 lbs again the morning before that. My 7-day average is 133.2 lbs.

Is leanmaxxing good or not?
40 lb lighter than an average white female
 
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Exactly! lmfao. This is why I think leanmaxxing is a meme. At least for manlets. I am trying to bulk up now.
The last three women I slept with were all shorter than me by 1-2 inches but bigger than me in weight. One of the girls I think was like 5'5" 180 lbs. And all those relationships didn't last. Big girls feel self-conscious being with a guy who is smaller than them.
 
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Exactly! lmfao. This is why I think leanmaxxing is a meme. At least for manlets. I am trying to bulk up now.
The last three women I slept with were all shorter than me by 1-2 inches but bigger than me in weight. One of the girls I think was like 5'5" 180 lbs. And all those relationships didn't last. Big girls feel self-conscious being with a guy who is smaller than them.
Leanmaxxing also involves long periods of restricted calories. Imagine wanting optimal development and restricting your calories
 
Jonah Hill is 5'6" and the average linebacker is 6'3". The ONLY difference is height.
Yes because Jonah Hill clearly looks like he has muscle
 
Leanmaxxing also involves long periods of restricted calories. Imagine wanting optimal development and restricting your calories
I am a 37 year old oldcel so that doesn't apply to me. I started my cut at 36.
 
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Yes because Jonah Hill clearly looks like he has muscle
Jonah Hill needs to get to 10% body fat to have widespread appeal.

6'4" football chad can get to 25% body fat and still be fine. But, he would still be more attractive if lean. So your argument is SHIT.

If you want to stay at 25% body fat I'm not going to stop you. Less competition.
 
Jonah Hill needs to get to 10% body fat to have widespread appeal.

6'4" football chad can get to 25% body fat and still be fine. But, he would still be more attractive if lean. So your argument is SHIT.

If you want to stay at 25% body fat I'm not going to stop you. Less competition.
The average woman these days in North America is so fat and women feel self-conscious about being bigger than their man. So I think leanmaxxing is a bit over-rated. But not without merit. Having a lean face is better than having a bloated chubby face like I used to when I was 160+ lbs and sedentary.

For a turbo-manlet like me 167cm/5'5.75" being 128.14 lbs (7-day average low)/126.4 lbs (1-day low) evening weight like I was back in late September was a huge failo. There aren't many women these days who are smaller than 128.14 lbs. A large percentage of women are sedentary fat fucks. And the short petite Asian girls (unless they are butterfaces) who weigh less than me probably want 6' tall Chads.

I like thicc Asian girls but I think me being smaller than them makes them feel self-conscious. When I told my ex-Asian FWB whose like 5'5" 180 lbs in September that I don't eat much sugar, she asked me why and I said that I lost 35 lbs (I weighed in at 131 lbs that day and 132.05 lbs 7-day average evening weight. So I was even lighter than I am now as I bulked up some) and I could see that she immediately felt flustered.

Being 12% body fat probably makes more sense if you are 6'+ tall. Because you have more of a frame to pack muscle and fat on. And you can be a decent size at 12% bf if you are tall.
 
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The average woman these days in North America is so fat and women feel self-conscious about being bigger than their man. So I think leanmaxxing is a bit over-rated. But not without merit. Having a lean face is better than having a bloated chubby face like I used to when I was 160+ lbs and sedentary.

For a turbo-manlet like me 167cm/5'5.75" being 128.14 lbs (7-day average low)/126.4 lbs (1-day low) like I was back in late September was a huge failo. There aren't many women these days who are smaller than 128.14 lbs. A large percentage of women are sedentary fat fucks. And the short petite Asian girls (unless they are butterfaces) who weigh less than me probably want 6' tall Chads.

I like thicc Asian girls but I think me being smaller than them makes them feel self-conscious. When I told my ex-Asian FWB whose like 5'5" 180 lbs in September that I don't eat much sugar, she asked me why and I said that I lost 35 lbs (I weighed in at 131 lbs that day and 132.05 lbs 7-day average evening weight. So I was even lighter than I am now as I bulked up some) and I could see that she immediately felt flustered.

Being 12% body fat probably makes more sense if you are 6'+ tall. Because you have more of a frame to pack muscle and fat on. And you can be a decent size at 12% bf if you are tall.
By all means, put on muscle. Then cut down afterwards and get lean.

OP is saying to STAY high bodyfat because it somehow has "teddybear" appeal. All the gymcopers on TikTok fall for the same shit and think that getting as muscular and fat as possible will make them attractive to women and it never does.

Almost EVERYTHING that is attractive to women is revealed at low body fat:

  • Abs
  • Veins
  • Defined facial bones
  • Blood flow closer to the skin giving skin healthier tone.

Being fat is one of the worst failos there is. Do not fall for this gymcoper shit and get fat.
 
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By all means, put on muscle. Then cut down afterwards and get lean.

OP is saying to STAY high bodyfat because it somehow has "teddybear" appeal. All the gymcopers on TikTok fall for the same shit and think that getting as muscular and fat as possible will make them attractive to women and it never does.

Almost EVERYTHING that is attractive to women is revealed at low body fat:

  • Abs
  • Veins
  • Defined facial bones
  • Blood flow closer to the skin giving skin healthier tone.

Being fat is one of the worst failos there is. Do not fall for this gymcoper shit and get fat.
Cope. Gymbros cope about muh abs all the time.

But telling some skinny guy to cut is just ridiculous.

If you're small and have no size, leanmaxxing is terrible advice.
 
Holy shit this is so retarded. The average linebacker is 6'4" and statusmaxxed OP. They can afford to be fat.

The average man can't afford to be above 12% body fat if you want to slay.
Yeah this. Bare minimum is 15% bf for normies, and even that's pushing it.
 
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A lineman isn’t just fucking fat. He has a bunch of muscle, good frame, height, ect. That’s what’s attractive about a football player not the fact that he is a teddy bear or some gay shit you just made up
 
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A lineman isn’t just fucking fat. He has a bunch of muscle, good frame, height, ect. That’s what’s attractive about a football player not the fact that he is a teddy bear or some gay shit you just made up
I literally said this idiot
 
Holy shit this is so retarded. The average linebacker is 6'4" and statusmaxxed OP. They can afford to be fat.

The average man can't afford to be above 12% body fat if you want to slay.
this op is a retard although black people can afford to be slightly higher than 12 percent fat on them doesn't seem so abrasive.
 
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it's over. we have several greycels now that promote being obese. this is truly a normie site now where people are too fucking lazy to even lose weight :feelscry:

It was only a matter of time before the obese started to infect the forum to try and sway people away from one of the most basic and starter looksmaxxes to try and justify their own laziness and failure. They've infected every other facet of society with "obesity is healthy and beautiful" and "not dating someone obese is bigoted and fatphobic" bullshit.
 
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Holy shit this is so retarded. The average linebacker is 6'4" and statusmaxxed OP. They can afford to be fat.

The average man can't afford to be above 12% body fat if you want to slay.
Women aren’t even into linebackers they like quarterbacks
 
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“teddy bear” you hella gay
He’s a dumbass in another thread he said don’t approach women wait for them to talk to you JFL
 
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Exactly! lmfao. This is why I think leanmaxxing is a meme. At least for manlets. I am trying to bulk up now.
The last three women I slept with were all shorter than me by 1-2 inches but bigger than me in weight. One of the girls I think was like 5'5" 180 lbs. And all those relationships didn't last. Big girls feel self-conscious being with a guy who is smaller than them.
Especially for manlets?

If anything manlets should go for the fight club look
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Being extremely muscular only really works when you're above average height, don't get me wrong muscle still looks good but hyper-masc doesn't look good on manlets.
 
By all means, put on muscle. Then cut down afterwards and get lean.

OP is saying to STAY high bodyfat because it somehow has "teddybear" appeal. All the gymcopers on TikTok fall for the same shit and think that getting as muscular and fat as possible will make them attractive to women and it never does.

Almost EVERYTHING that is attractive to women is revealed at low body fat:

  • Abs
  • Veins
  • Defined facial bones
  • Blood flow closer to the skin giving skin healthier tone.

Being fat is one of the worst failos there is. Do not fall for this gymcoper shit and get fat.
This is so true it's not even funny, also one thing to point out is that it's usually muscle definition that makes a guy's muscle look good and definition also comes from low bf%.

Not discarding muscle size ofc, it matters, but bf% > size anyday
 
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Jonah Hill is 5'6" and the average linebacker is 6'3". The ONLY difference is height.

Linebackers are usually low bodyfat also. Only those charts that don't consider muscle would claim they are overweight.
 
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bearmode is by far the best physique to have. not only the most attractive but you can slap the shit out of a lean fag with ease
 
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Basically, there's fat like Jonah Hill (failo) and then "fat" like a linebacker (teddy bear to women). One is pathetic and the other is a protector. The key being muscular fat vs sloppy fat. Guys who are muscular and fat don't struggle with women. To be told to leanmaxx by all these redpill youtubers is just gymcel coping
cope. men who have high bf regardless whether they have muscle or not they struggle with women.
 
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bearmode is by far the best physique to have. not only the most attractive but you can slap the shit out of a lean fag with ease
giga copium
 
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cope. men who have high bf regardless whether they have muscle or not they struggle with women.
Yes but what this forum considers fat is just a guy without abs because most guys here are abused dogs with body dysmorphia and gay tendencies.

Incels here would say dumb shit like "anything 15% or above is obese bro" and would call a 6'4 250 lb. guy who is jacked to be a fatass if he doesnt have abs, even if he has a wide frame and lots of muscle.

This is why I said "fat" with the quotes since actually being fat like some Indian nerd programmer is different than being Aquaman on a bulk
 
Yes but what this forum considers fat is just a guy without abs because most guys here are abused dogs with body dysmorphia and gay tendencies.

Incels here would say dumb shit like "anything 15% or above is obese bro" and would call a 6'4 250 lb. guy who is jacked to be a fatass if he doesnt have abs, even if he has a wide frame and lots of muscle.

This is why I said "fat" with the quotes since actually being fat like some Indian nerd programmer is different than being Aquaman on a bulk
Being 15% bf or above is a serious looksmin though, like 20% bodyfat and 10% bodyfat can literally be the difference between 1, 2, or even 3 facial attractiveness points on the 1-10 scale.

Being above 25% bf is a death sentence and while 15-24% isn't "fat" it's a HUGE looksmin.
 
This is why tails roasts us
 
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Being 15% bf or above is a serious looksmin though, like 20% bodyfat and 10% bodyfat can literally be the difference between 1, 2, or even 3 facial attractiveness points on the 1-10 scale.

Being above 25% bf is a death sentence and while 15-24% isn't "fat" it's a HUGE looksmin.
Wtf above 15% barely affects your face dummy. Unless you have like 0 bones at all in which case fat isn't your problem.

If your face looks shit at 15% bodyfat or slightly higher you either have very weak facial structure, dysmorphia, or horrible fat distribution patterns.
 
Wtf above 15% barely affects your face dummy. Unless you have like 0 bones at all in which case fat isn't your problem.

If your face looks shit at 15% bodyfat or slightly higher you either have very weak facial structure, dysmorphia, or horrible fat distribution patterns.
What? It definitely does affect your face, not dramatically but the difference between 15 and 10% bf on your face can be 0.5-1/10 points
 
What? It definitely does affect your face, not dramatically but the difference between 15 and 10% bf on your face can be 0.5-1/10 points
Autism but pics would be helpful I suppose
 
You can be fat if you are tall if you're short you gotta be lean 5'9 and under lean all day long women hate short fat guys
 
You can be fat if you are tall if you're short you gotta be lean 5'9 and under lean all day long women hate short fat guys
Read the thread. I said "fat" as in guy without abs. Not having abs doesn't make you fat.

And no a tall fat guy doesn't have high smv because if you're actually fat your dick is smaller and you look like shit. But men here conflate not having abs with being obese
 
Read the thread. I said "fat" as in guy without abs. Not having abs doesn't make you fat.

And no a tall fat guy doesn't have high smv because if you're actually fat your dick is smaller and you look like shit. But men here conflate not having abs with being obese

If you're short you gotta have abs women hate stumpy guys lol trust me
 
If you're short you gotta have abs women hate stumpy guys lol trust me
Bro it's not abs or being a fatass. There is a ground in between. The fact you can't see this doesn't make it untrue
 
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Autism but pics would be helpful I suppose
Even when you aren't fat, a few bf% can make a huge difference

~16-17% bf
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Not fat on the left, but noticeably better on the right.
 
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Bro it's not abs or being a fatass. There is a ground in between. The fact you can't see this doesn't make it untrue
Visible Abs are the most important part of a man's physique
 
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