Being good looking but not knowing how to talk to girls is frustrating.

[Donald]

There have been instances recently where I have been approached and even one time at a volleyball tournament I got cat called by a group of girls.

This would be well and good if I understood how to engage in conversation to suggest interest. However, I am not understanding of this concept.

Like when the girls cat called me at the tournament I just sorta looked back for a sec and kept walking. Also all the times I’ve been approached has been either at a party or at a tournament and a girl will say hi or introduce herself and I’ll say my name and then fuck off and find my friends.

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

Does anyone have any ideas that could help or am I just doomed?

 

[pheenon]

Personality inhib pill is worse than lookism

 

[pheenon]

It’s genuinely not over tho u js have so find someone ND

 

[Donald]

Personality inhib pill is worse than lookism

I used to be low inhib up until I was like 16. Now I feel retarded talking to girls. Which also pisses me off because I regard myself as a smart individual.

 

[arbiter891]

cope ur not good looking.

if ur good looking the social standards conform to you. i.e. if ur good looking and shy then ur just "reserved and quietly confident", and if ur good looking and extroverted then you're "alpha and dominant"

 

[Donald]

cope ur not good looking.

if ur good looking the social standards conform to you. i.e. if ur good looking and shy then ur just "reserved and quietly confident", and if ur good looking and extroverted then you're "alpha and dominant"

Man what

 

[arbiter891]

Man what

Joined: Nov 11, 2025

 

[Donald]

Joined: Nov 11, 2025

I just don’t get how what you said relates to my original post. My issue is the fact that I get uncomfortable easily when approached and evade it. Idk if you can’t read or something retard but informing me of social norms I am already aware of isn’t useful in this case.

 

[AlbinoMaxxer]

Theyll make it easy for u just shut up and youll learn

 

[Donald]

Theyll make it easy for u just shut up and youll learn

What do you mean?

 

[Informationcapitali]

I have no idea what this means but feels like something my schizophrenic self would say

cope ur not good looking.

if ur good looking the social standards conform to you. i.e. if ur good looking and shy then ur just "reserved and quietly confident", and if ur good looking and extroverted then you're "alpha and dominant"

 

[Donald]

I have no idea what this means but feels like something my schizophrenic self would say

Dude said “alpha”

 

[Informationcapitali]

Dude said “alpha”

Yeah some bul shet my dad would say about needing to be alpha and shet

 

[STAMPEDE]

I can relate to this, NT pill is brutal, I missed out on so much because I was high inhib

 

[Donald]

I can relate to this, NT pill is brutal, I missed out on so much because I was high inhib

Did u find out how to lower inhib?

 

[STAMPEDE]

Did u find out how to lower inhib?

Nope, I never tried with girls even once and I've been a NEET for a long time, my looks have descended now so I don't even have the same opportunities I had back then now.

 

[karmacita901]

holy htn ramblings

If you're able to introduce yourself to anyone at all, just copy that method. If they want to talk to you, its damn near impossible to fuck it up

 

[CkldPsycho]

better htn who cant talk to girls than ltn who cant talk to girls

as htn at least you can practice without getting humiliated when they reject you

 

[Donald]

Nope, I never tried with girls even once and I've been a NEET for a long time, my looks have descended now so I don't even have the same opportunities I had back then now.

Why give up?

 

[Donald]

holy htn ramblings

If you're able to introduce yourself to anyone at all, just copy that method. If they want to talk to you, its damn near impossible to fuck it up

Okay I’ll try next time. Maybe even approach. But that’s really scary.

 

[Donald]

better htn who cant talk to girls than ltn who cant talk to girls

as htn at least you can practice without getting humiliated when they reject you

I feel like if you can’t talk to girls if htn or ltn they will still reject you idk. Maybe less harshly if htn.

 

[h@rry]

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

literally just say whatever comes to mind and dont think about it

 

[CkldPsycho]

I feel like if you can’t talk to girls if htn or ltn they will still reject you idk. Maybe less harshly if htn.

yeah, if you look good they usually dont reject you that harshly. harsh rejections can be really demotivating

 

[karmacita901]

Okay I’ll try next time. Maybe even approach. But that’s really scary.

Dr. taraban once said, if talking to a woman is the scariest thing you gon do today, you aint doin enough

 

[Donald]

holy htn ramblings

If you're able to introduce yourself to anyone at all, just copy that method. If they want to talk to you, its damn near impossible to fuck it up

I literally had a girl from my school at a party come up to me and say she was mad that a guy she used to like was talking to another girl so I said “idk make out w a random guy” then she smiled and said “are you a random guy” and I just laughed awkwardly and walked away

 

[Donald]

yeah, if you look good they usually dont reject you that harshly. harsh rejections can be really demotivating

My worst fear ngl. Actual ropefuel

 

[Whatever]

What I don’t get about “ND” and “high inhib” people here is how are you getting invited to parties and stuff if socializing was really your problem, I’ve been completely socially excluded my entire life by about 100% of guys and 99% of girls, the only times I ever got off the ground at all was when the 1% of girls who like me initiated. Met my first girl at work, lost my virginity after a party she invited me to, that’s the only way things ever work out for me. So the only solution I see is looksmaxxing.

 

[karmacita901]

I literally had a girl from my school at a party come up to me and say she was mad that a guy she used to like was talking to another girl so I said “idk make out w a random guy” then she smiled and said “are you a random guy” and I just laughed awkwardly and walked away

HELL NAH

Generational bag fumble, unless this was an LTB, in which case u just picked up mad aura from that one

 

[CkldPsycho]

My worst fear ngl. Actual ropefuel

mine too, thats why im not even going to try until ive somewhat ascended

until then im planning to just learn to talk, without entering potential rejection territory

 

[Donald]

What I don’t get about “ND” and “high inhib” people here is how are you getting invited to parties and stuff if socializing was really your problem, I’ve been completely socially excluded my entire life by about 100% of guys and 99% of girls, the only times I ever got off the ground at all was when the 1% of girls who like me initiated. Met my first girl at work, lost my virginity after a party she invited me to, that’s the only way things ever work out for me. So the only solution I see is looksmaxxing.

Dang dude. Thats really unfortunate. I guess it could always be worse, and I wish you the best. Have you had any other interactions with girls since?

 

[Donald]

HELL NAH

Generational bag fumble, unless this was an LTB, in which case u just picked up mad aura from that one

She’s prolly top 5 at my high school I can’t even lie

 

[TiktokUser]

There have been instances recently where I have been approached and even one time at a volleyball tournament I got cat called by a group of girls.

This would be well and good if I understood how to engage in conversation to suggest interest. However, I am not understanding of this concept.

Like when the girls cat called me at the tournament I just sorta looked back for a sec and kept walking. Also all the times I’ve been approached has been either at a party or at a tournament and a girl will say hi or introduce herself and I’ll say my name and then fuck off and find my friends.

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

Does anyone have any ideas that could help or am I just doomed?

is this only trouble with girls, or is it common socially with anyone you don’t know?
Try practicing by speaking to yourself in the mirror and exaggerating your facial expressions. As schizo as it sounds, pretend the reflection is a different person and have a conversation with them

 

[Donald]

mine too, thats why im not even going to try until ive somewhat ascended

until then im planning to just learn to talk, without entering potential rejection territory

Yeah I’m going to try to ascend as well. That’s why we’re all here right? I don’t want to sound cocky but I have always had a decent enough base and I am going to try to capitalize on it. May as well max out whatever you have regardless of where you start.

 

[Donald]

is this only trouble with girls, or is it common socially with anyone you don’t know?
Try practicing by speaking to yourself in the mirror and exaggerating your facial expressions. As schizo as it sounds, pretend the reflection is a different person and have a conversation with them

Way worse with girls. I can maneuver into talking about common interests with dudes I meet pretty quickly and often end up making a friend out of them. Whether that friendship lasts is a different matter but my main issue is with girls.

 

[Donald]

is this only trouble with girls, or is it common socially with anyone you don’t know?
Try practicing by speaking to yourself in the mirror and exaggerating your facial expressions. As schizo as it sounds, pretend the reflection is a different person and have a conversation with them

For instance at work today there was a guy wearing a Toyota Motorsport hat so I asked if he was into Motorsport and we talked about f1 and max verstappen. Yesterday at work I couldn’t even strike up a conversation with a girl I have already talked to before and used to snap .

 

[Whatever]

Dang dude. Thats really unfortunate. I guess it could always be worse, and I wish you the best. Have you had any other interactions with girls since?

Yes but they’ve been few and far between. And my first girl was just perfect, the last girl I was with reminded me a lot of her too, so it’s like I can never get over her.

As you get older you will be less nervous which will help. But I still think the solution is to looksmax, get yourself more opportunities.

 

[Donald]

Yes but they’ve been few and far between. And my first girl was just perfect, the last girl I was with reminded me a lot of her too, so it’s like I can never get over her.

As you get older you will be less nervous which will help. But I still think the solution is to looksmax, get yourself more opportunities.

I miss my first real girlfriend. I was actually pretty normal and easily talked to her and formed a connection with her when first starting out. Idk what happened then vs now lol

 

[Whatever]

I miss my first real girlfriend. I was actually pretty normal and easily talked to her and formed a connection with her when first starting out. Idk what happened then vs now lol

I know the feeling boyo, I’d say with the right girl nothing’s a problem but with the wrong girl everything’s a problem. So “how to talk to girls” is too generic. Looksmax and then continue to put yourself out there and see what girls step forwards.

 

[Nardicus101]

cope ur not good looking.

if ur good looking the social standards conform to you. i.e. if ur good looking and shy then ur just "reserved and quietly confident", and if ur good looking and extroverted then you're "alpha and dominant"

This is so fucking true and ill give an example:

You send snap of yourself looking good ----> she will start the convo and lead it because she is desperate wanna know more about you.

This convo leads to a hangout and majority of the time drugs are involved so taking some semax and hitting the cart while she drinks a bit is total game over for you.

 

[arbiter891]

This is so fucking true and ill give an example:

You send snap of yourself looking good ----> she will start the convo and lead it because she is desperate wanna know more about you.

This convo leads to a hangout and majority of the time drugs are involved so taking some semax and hitting the cart while she drinks a bit is total game over for you.

yep all of this muh NT shit is cope asf. If Chad gets her ig or snap it's already game over. He sends a snap of his face to her and she's already interested and has already projected numerous positive traits onto the guy.

I understand if u were at an event and women were catcalling u in a group and u were afraid to approach, but ima keep it a buck in 2025 if a chick was interested she'd find ur ass on instagram and give u a follow. From this point she may not dm first and make u do it, but she's still putting the ball in ur court.

 

[castizo_ascender]

There have been instances recently where I have been approached and even one time at a volleyball tournament I got cat called by a group of girls.

This would be well and good if I understood how to engage in conversation to suggest interest. However, I am not understanding of this concept.

Like when the girls cat called me at the tournament I just sorta looked back for a sec and kept walking. Also all the times I’ve been approached has been either at a party or at a tournament and a girl will say hi or introduce herself and I’ll say my name and then fuck off and find my friends.

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

Does anyone have any ideas that could help or am I just doomed?

I mean that sounds like high mtn treatment tbh.

I've had similar experiences and they were decent looking too.

Good news is if ur hmtn like i suspect you could probably ascend to mhtn and actually get girls doing all the work for you

 

[castizo_ascender]

Na

This is so fucking true and ill give an example:

You send snap of yourself looking good ----> she will start the convo and lead it because she is desperate wanna know more about you.

This convo leads to a hangout and majority of the time drugs are involved so taking some semax and hitting the cart while she drinks a bit is total game over for you.

even that is cope i'm not even that gl and i've had girls message me first on snap several times since my profile has my pics on it

Istg girls will make it giga obvious they like u

 

[castizo_ascender]

yep all of this muh NT shit is cope asf. If Chad gets her ig or snap it's already game over. He sends a snap of his face to her and she's already interested and has already projected numerous positive traits onto the guy.

I understand if u were at an event and women were catcalling u in a group and u were afraid to approach, but ima keep it a buck in 2025 if a chick was interested she'd find ur ass on instagram and give u a follow. From this point she may not dm first and make u do it, but she's still putting the ball in ur court.

But that's only true if she knows who u are to begin with and u have a non-anon ig

as much as i believe girls make i obvious, they aren't gonna go to the extent of putting in hours of their time to track you down like a kiwi farms user.

The brutal truth is that there is a stark difference in how foids show interest in normies and how they show it with Chads. If you're between LTN and low HTN and a girl finds u attractive she isn't gonna be obsessing over you. Just bc she likes u doesn't mean u automatically mean the world to her.

Chads only get the treatment they do because they're rare and when a girl likes a chad she already knows that. So she will naturally invest much more into attempting to secure the Chad.

Being catcalled or anything like that is already better that the majority of men. Most NTfags with gfs only got subtle hints and had to make the first move

 

[dudebroguy]

I've got the same problem. Looksmaxxing beginning to pay off and I'm getting some attention but I don't know how to handle it, I fumble often. At least I'm aware of it now.

 

[gymceltard]

There have been instances recently where I have been approached and even one time at a volleyball tournament I got cat called by a group of girls.

This would be well and good if I understood how to engage in conversation to suggest interest. However, I am not understanding of this concept.

Like when the girls cat called me at the tournament I just sorta looked back for a sec and kept walking. Also all the times I’ve been approached has been either at a party or at a tournament and a girl will say hi or introduce herself and I’ll say my name and then fuck off and find my friends.

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

Does anyone have any ideas that could help or am I just doomed?

People like you were made for the pickup artist redpill stuff.

Unironically watch PUA videos and maybe even take an IRL pickup artist boot camp, you will slay within a month and fix your high inhib.

 

[gymceltard]

There have been instances recently where I have been approached and even one time at a volleyball tournament I got cat called by a group of girls.

This would be well and good if I understood how to engage in conversation to suggest interest. However, I am not understanding of this concept.

Like when the girls cat called me at the tournament I just sorta looked back for a sec and kept walking. Also all the times I’ve been approached has been either at a party or at a tournament and a girl will say hi or introduce herself and I’ll say my name and then fuck off and find my friends.

I reckon it’s a combination of not knowing what to say and the stress/pressure of not knowing what to say. I get stressed out and would rather not be in that stressful scenario, so I leave or avoid.

Does anyone have any ideas that could help or am I just doomed?

Also if the girl is attracted to you the words you say don’t matter.

You can talk about trains, video games, looksmaxxing, or any autistic hobby you have and she will love it if she finds you attractive.

Girls talk a lot about how they enjoy hearing hot men talk about their interests. Just be attractive and talk about whatever you want. Your fate has already been decided the second she saw your face.

 

[gymceltard]

For instance at work today there was a guy wearing a Toyota Motorsport hat so I asked if he was into Motorsport and we talked about f1 and max verstappen. Yesterday at work I couldn’t even strike up a conversation with a girl I have already talked to before and used to snap .

Talk to her about anything you want. If you’re actually attractive then she will be interested in any topic you discuss.

If a hot girl approached me and I was attracted to her nothing she says can make me not attracted to her. Same applies to ugly girls no magic combination of words could ever make me attracted to her.

 

[Donald]

I mean that sounds like high mtn treatment tbh.

I've had similar experiences and they were decent looking too.

Good news is if ur hmtn like i suspect you could probably ascend to mhtn and actually get girls doing all the work for you

Yeah I’m around there hmtn or maybe lhtn (if temp softmaxes like lumify, tanned, tinted sunscreen, and good hair). I’ll try to lean out and maybe dabble into Reta if it isn’t easy naturally. Maybe pair ghkcu with my topical tret treatment as well. Idk. Maybe even Melanotan for staying tan this winter. Oral minox is also on my shortlist. I’m gonna be 18 soon so a lot of the pubertymaxing stuff is long gone.

 

[Hozay]

I was like this when I was 18-19, now that I'm 27 its too easy, your social skills get way better as you age, they won't if you don't even try though

 

[Donald]

yep all of this muh NT shit is cope asf. If Chad gets her ig or snap it's already game over. He sends a snap of his face to her and she's already interested and has already projected numerous positive traits onto the guy.

I understand if u were at an event and women were catcalling u in a group and u were afraid to approach, but ima keep it a buck in 2025 if a chick was interested she'd find ur ass on instagram and give u a follow. From this point she may not dm first and make u do it, but she's still putting the ball in ur court.

Sure. But Chad is like what 0.01% of men? Less? Obviously if I was Chad I wouldn’t be on this forum complaining about not being able to talk to girls.

I’m above the average but when approach me, I get uncomfortable. So I’m here like we all are to try to either improve my looks so it won’t matter or fix my inhibition.