Serious Benefits to running HCG or Enclo indefinitely? (1 Viewer)

[MaestheticMaso]

If you take an AI as well ?
@pessimistic

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Ip

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Up

 

[MaestheticMaso]

@UndiagnosedSchizo What do you think ?

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

@UndiagnosedSchizo What do you think ?

I think you should ask Arborist

 

[fatweewee123]

high test

 

[MaestheticMaso]

high test

Of course, but you should take an AI indefinitely as well to avoid too high estrogen ?

 

[fatweewee123]

Of course, but you should take an AI indefinitely as well to avoid too high estrogen ?

yea if you take both i defiently recommend you take a strong ai such as letrozole because enclo and hcg increase e2 by a lot and try to get blood work done everyone 4-6 months to check on test and e2

 

[fatweewee123]

Of course, but you should take an AI indefinitely as well to avoid too high estrogen ?

you could also just take test instead

 

[MaestheticMaso]

you could also just take test instead

This approach is best for a slight boost and it’s less harsh to the HPTA axis as you’re not shutting down natural T production.

 

[NerdcelThundercok]

what's the cycle for someone on fin? i need to gymmax to achieve anime look

 

[MaestheticMaso]

what's the cycle for someone on fin? i need to gymmax to achieve anime look

Lowish test dose with sarms and/or var plus fat burners.

 

[Donkeyballs]

It's important to note that AI themselves also increase the amount of tetosterone in your body indirectly because no more tetosterone is being converted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme.
Also, exemstane/aromasin amplifies your androgens even further because of the metabolite 17-hydroexemstane which interacts with androgen receptors and is proven to increase endogenous androgens and being quite potent.

 

[NerdcelThundercok]

Lowish test dose with sarms and/or var plus fat burners.

Fuark I need more muscle to became a 26 inch framemogger like Skywalker

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Fuark I need more muscle to became a 26 inch framemogger like Skywalker

His bidelt doesn’t look close to 26inches. He just has a very tiny waist/hips

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Fuark I need more muscle to became a 26 inch framemogger like Skywalker

 

[pessimistic]

Don't take hcg indefinitely if you have a normal HPTA, it's for if you're taking it concurrently with steroids or have HPTA problems. As far as enclo, in theory there shouldn't be that much of an issue, but you can get vision sides from SERMs and other sides and you should take an AI with it to lower estradiol since your test production will be elevated (as you said you would do).

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Don't take hcg indefinitely if you have a normal HPTA, it's for if you're taking it concurrently with steroids or have HPTA problems. As far as enclo, in theory there shouldn't be that much of an issue, but you can get vision sides from SERMs and other sides and you should take an AI with it to lower estradiol since your test production will be elevated (as you said you would do).

What AI should I take with enclo ? The mildest one ?

 

[Krakowski]

@MaestheticMaso who is wider, Jeff or Jon?

 

[pessimistic]

What AI should I take with enclo ? The mildest one ?

aromasin

 

[MaestheticMaso]

aromasin

Tamox isn’t good ?

 

[MongolTurk]

Of course, but you should take an AI indefinitely as well to avoid too high estrogen ?

taking an AI indefinitely is never a good idea

 

[pessimistic]

Tamox isn’t good ?

tamoxifen isn't an AI, it's a SERM

 

[MaestheticMaso]

tamoxifen isn't an AI, it's a SERM

Please give sources for AIs and should I use tamox or enclo ?

 

[MaestheticMaso]

taking an AI indefinitely is never a good idea

There must be some sort of equilibrium you can reach where the enclo raises your estrogen but you manage it well enough with an AI?

 

[MongolTurk]

There must be some sort of equilibrium you can reach where the enclo raises your estrogen but you manage it well enough with an AI?

Try and go without it, AIs should be used as a backup plan if estrogen becomes an issue. High aromatase activity shouldn’t happen with hcg and enclomiphene

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Try and go without it, AIs should be used as a backup plan if estrogen becomes an issue. High aromatase activity shouldn’t happen with hcg and enclomiphene

Hmmmm, over time there’s a high possibly due to instigation of the receptors.