Best Anti-aging Skincare Routine (My Routine)

[noodlelover]

Do Everyday:

• Cardio Everyday
  • Not too much, not too little. You don't want to kill yourself everyday because that is pro-aging. But get your heart pumping and push yourself a little bit. Anecdotally I look soo much younger when doing cardio everyday, vs 3 times week.
• Red Light Face Mask Everyday
  • You can look up the science on your own, but this needs to be part of your everyday routine if you want to anti-age max
• Meditation before bed (Ideally with red light mask everyday).
  • Meditation before bed increases sleep quality a huge amount. The smallest amount of stress that you don't even know about decreases sleep quality. With deep sleep you get deep repair. Sexual arousal also decreases sleep quality. So if you look at pictures of hot girls on Instagram or whatever, you are fucking up your sleep quality even if you coom.
• Methelyn Blue Everyday
• No Processed foods & No foods with Glycemic index higher than 60
  • They are pro-aging. We're not evolved for them. Start reading books like wheat belly if you need to be convinced, and keep reading.
• Only drink water (No cigarettes, alcohol, pot, fruit juice, etc.)
• A NAD Booster everyday - I take niacin
• A supplement containing collagen & Biotin (for skin, hair and nails). Yes, this will
• Creatine - for brain health. Even if you eat tons of meat, you're still not getting the optima dose of creatine

Periodic Routine:

• A Senolytic Stack 2-3 days a month - to clear out scenecent cells
• Periodic Fasting of AT LEAST THREE DAYS OF ZERO CALORIES - needed to regenerate immune system and flood body with stem cells. Both are important for anti-aging
• Follow anti-aging content creators and read the actual studies (Don't necessarily trust them, but use them to keep up to date on new studies)
• Cold Therapy, Heat Therapy, Oxygen Deprivation, Inversion therapy (Hanging upside down).
• Shower - Shower only when you really need it, and if you can stand it do a cold shower. The hot water dries out your skin and ages you. Having to apply topical crap on after even if it's "good stuff like Vit C & E" with studies behind it, isn't ideal. It's ideal to get all of your nutrients through your food and not fuck with your skin barrier.

You can look up the studies for all of these. You'll find many are mice studies which many of you will dismiss. However, if you understand the method of action, and you understand weather or not that method of action is applicable to human physiology, you'll be able to make an educated guess for human physiology. Researching how human physiology is different from mice physiology will help you adopt the mice protocols for human protocols.

Yes, I'm aware that most drugs that work on mice don't work on humans, but again the point is to undersand mice and human phsyiologies well enough that you can make an educated guess. Refine your protocols as we get the results of more experiments.

 

[valentine]

awesome but whenever people post routines like this i wonder if they do anything else productive in their life

 

[homovirgin]

awesome but whenever people post routines like this i wonder if they do anything else productive in their life

Nigga it’s a normal way of living. You can do a thousand things a day and still be able to do some cardio exercise red light and eat properly jfl
I think you’re the one who’s not actually productive

 

[noodlelover]

awesome but whenever people post routines like this i wonder if they do anything else productive in their life

A little bit, but my main goal is to survive long enough that Ai will help solve aging, so it's fully solved.

 

[valentine]

A little bit, but my main goal is to survive long enough that Ai will help solve aging, so it's fully solved.

wait same, this is so high iq

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

impossible to incorporate all this+ mostly cope won't provide a significant difference. Anti aging is kinda cope except if you have a lot of time+ money else not worth it. Best to focus on sleep+ grounding+happiness (mind sound bluepilled af but it's true)

 

[noodlelover]

impossible to incorporate all this+ mostly cope won't provide a significant difference. Anti aging is kinda cope except if you have a lot of time+ money else not worth it. Best to focus on sleep+ grounding+happiness (mind sound bluepilled af but it's true)

Your belief that it's mostly cope is an opinion not based on evidence.

There are physiological processes that lead to death. Slowing down and reversing those processes extends life, and if not life healthspan which allows you to be healthier and a better recipient for the next anti-aging therapies.

 

[NorwoodAscender]

Nice, I do all of these as well

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

Aren't cold showers cortisol inducing which cause more aging?

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

impossible to incorporate all this+ mostly cope won't provide a significant difference. Anti aging is kinda cope except if you have a lot of time+ money else not worth it. Best to focus on sleep+ grounding+happiness (mind sound bluepilled af but it's true)

tbh I didn't even read it the first time and seems implementable. I already ordered shit on your list btw. Also isn't Hiit better than cardio for aging?

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Most people here suffer from already existing issues preventing them to some degree does not fix the actual issue

 

[attention_spanlet]

Do Everyday:

• Cardio Everyday
  • Not too much, not too little. You don't want to kill yourself everyday because that is pro-aging. But get your heart pumping and push yourself a little bit. Anecdotally I look soo much younger when doing cardio everyday, vs 3 times week.
• Red Light Face Mask Everyday
  • You can look up the science on your own, but this needs to be part of your everyday routine if you want to anti-age max
• Meditation before bed (Ideally with red light mask everyday).
  • Meditation before bed increases sleep quality a huge amount. The smallest amount of stress that you don't even know about decreases sleep quality. With deep sleep you get deep repair. Sexual arousal also decreases sleep quality. So if you look at pictures of hot girls on Instagram or whatever, you are fucking up your sleep quality even if you coom.
• Methelyn Blue Everyday
• No Processed foods & No foods with Glycemic index higher than 60
  • They are pro-aging. We're not evolved for them. Start reading books like wheat belly if you need to be convinced, and keep reading.
• Only drink water (No cigarettes, alcohol, pot, fruit juice, etc.)
• A NAD Booster everyday - I take niacin
• A supplement containing collagen & Biotin (for skin, hair and nails). Yes, this will
• Creatine - for brain health. Even if you eat tons of meat, you're still not getting the optima dose of creatine

Periodic Routine:

• A Senolytic Stack 2-3 days a month - to clear out scenecent cells
• Periodic Fasting of AT LEAST THREE DAYS OF ZERO CALORIES - needed to regenerate immune system and flood body with stem cells. Both are important for anti-aging
• Follow anti-aging content creators and read the actual studies (Don't necessarily trust them, but use them to keep up to date on new studies)
• Cold Therapy, Heat Therapy, Oxygen Deprivation, Inversion therapy (Hanging upside down).
• Shower - Shower only when you really need it, and if you can stand it do a cold shower. The hot water dries out your skin and ages you. Having to apply topical crap on after even if it's "good stuff like Vit C & E" with studies behind it, isn't ideal. It's ideal to get all of your nutrients through your food and not fuck with your skin barrier.

You can look up the studies for all of these. You'll find many are mice studies which many of you will dismiss. However, if you understand the method of action, and you understand weather or not that method of action is applicable to human physiology, you'll be able to make an educated guess for human physiology. Researching how human physiology is different from mice physiology will help you adopt the mice protocols for human protocols.

Yes, I'm aware that most drugs that work on mice don't work on humans, but again the point is to undersand mice and human phsyiologies well enough that you can make an educated guess. Refine your protocols as we get the results of more experiments.

High IQ guide.
why no tretinoin?
also do senolytic stack thread

 

[bubba_ge3]

High IQ guide.
why no tretinoin?
also do senolytic stack thread

Why not taz instead of tret

 

[lestoa]

No SPF50+ PA++++ ?
No isotretinoin ?
No Dutasteride ?
No GHK-cu ?
No Microneedling

 

[Crusile]

Low protein diet for igf-1 minning

 

[milkcuck]

A little bit, but my main goal is to survive long enough that Ai will help solve aging, so it's fully solved.

why JFL. Whats the fuckin point of living to 90 years old if you cant even say you have fucked bitches at the end of it. Literally entire natural goal is to bang as much as possible, living longer can aid that goal but once your anything past 50 the dimishing gains hits fuckin hard. I rather live to 35 years old having banged the entire continent of asia due to roid abuse then live to 90 a virgin.

 

[noodlelover]

High IQ guide.
why no tretinoin?

Trenenoid can dry out your skin and accelerate skin aging.

In terms of acne, you won't have acne with a properly functioning skin immune system which my method will lead too.

Your skin needs a lot of fluid to function properly, including for a properly functioning immune system. Nuking that with tretenoid bad.

As far as speeding up cell turn over process, red light already does that in a healthier way than trenaoid. I'd perhaps wager you're not going to get even faster cell turn over process using Trenaoid, or DRMA stap, or IPL, or any other method, because cells can only turn over so fast. And all of those methods are causing damage to the skin to get them to turn over which imho is probably not long term ideal.

Minor stress to the cells from exercising is anti-aging because of the response it triggers, but you don't want to over-do it which can easily happen if you're stacking hormesis protocols.

also do senolytic stack thread

I could technically do threads on every item in my list.

But here's a quick little bit of extra info for you.

Senescent cells are damaged cells that your body can't get rid of. This accumulated damage is one aspect of aging. Senolytics clears out these cells.

You don't need to do this too often because these cells accumulate very slowly. You're body also uses them for wound healing, so again you don't want to do senolytics everyday, it's unnecessary stress on your body. 2-3 days a month is what people have converged upon with the current available info.

Calendar reminders work for all of this stuff btw. As far as specific senolytics you want to make sure they are bio-available in humans and strong. The ones I mentioned need to be taken with a little bit of fat to be fully absorbed. I do a small piece of cheese.

 

[aryan33]

No SPF50+ PA++++ ?
No isotretinoin ?
No Dutasteride ?
No GHK-cu ?
No Microneedling

jfl

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Dutasteride is a super anti aging drug

 

[DR. NICKGA]

No SPF50+ PA++++ ?
No isotretinoin ?
No Dutasteride ?
No GHK-cu ?
No Microneedling

Long term microneedling is bad

 

[noodlelover]

jfl

@lestoa is one of the low IQ retards I blocked, so I can only see their comment through your reaction.

But every single thing he mentioned is pro-aging.

 

[20/04/2008]

Do Everyday:

• Cardio Everyday
  • Not too much, not too little. You don't want to kill yourself everyday because that is pro-aging. But get your heart pumping and push yourself a little bit. Anecdotally I look soo much younger when doing cardio everyday, vs 3 times week.
• Red Light Face Mask Everyday
  • You can look up the science on your own, but this needs to be part of your everyday routine if you want to anti-age max
• Meditation before bed (Ideally with red light mask everyday).
  • Meditation before bed increases sleep quality a huge amount. The smallest amount of stress that you don't even know about decreases sleep quality. With deep sleep you get deep repair. Sexual arousal also decreases sleep quality. So if you look at pictures of hot girls on Instagram or whatever, you are fucking up your sleep quality even if you coom.
• Methelyn Blue Everyday
• No Processed foods & No foods with Glycemic index higher than 60
  • They are pro-aging. We're not evolved for them. Start reading books like wheat belly if you need to be convinced, and keep reading.
• Only drink water (No cigarettes, alcohol, pot, fruit juice, etc.)
• A NAD Booster everyday - I take niacin
• A supplement containing collagen & Biotin (for skin, hair and nails). Yes, this will
• Creatine - for brain health. Even if you eat tons of meat, you're still not getting the optima dose of creatine

Periodic Routine:

• A Senolytic Stack 2-3 days a month - to clear out scenecent cells
• Periodic Fasting of AT LEAST THREE DAYS OF ZERO CALORIES - needed to regenerate immune system and flood body with stem cells. Both are important for anti-aging
• Follow anti-aging content creators and read the actual studies (Don't necessarily trust them, but use them to keep up to date on new studies)
• Cold Therapy, Heat Therapy, Oxygen Deprivation, Inversion therapy (Hanging upside down).
• Shower - Shower only when you really need it, and if you can stand it do a cold shower. The hot water dries out your skin and ages you. Having to apply topical crap on after even if it's "good stuff like Vit C & E" with studies behind it, isn't ideal. It's ideal to get all of your nutrients through your food and not fuck with your skin barrier.

You can look up the studies for all of these. You'll find many are mice studies which many of you will dismiss. However, if you understand the method of action, and you understand weather or not that method of action is applicable to human physiology, you'll be able to make an educated guess for human physiology. Researching how human physiology is different from mice physiology will help you adopt the mice protocols for human protocols.

Yes, I'm aware that most drugs that work on mice don't work on humans, but again the point is to undersand mice and human phsyiologies well enough that you can make an educated guess. Refine your protocols as we get the results of more experiments.

Your legit

 

[lestoa]

@lestoa is one of the low IQ retards I blocked, so I can only see their comment through your reaction.

But every single thing he mentioned is pro-aging.

everything I said makes sense

 

[DR. NICKGA]

everything I said makes sense

No need to argue with him

@noodlelover is very very low iq, he is very stupid

 

[noodlelover]

everything I said makes sense

Oh my bad. I got you confused with some one else. I didn't block you.

Yah, all that stuff you mentioned is pro-aging.

No SPF50+ PA++++ ? - physical barriers like cloth are safer because they don't absorb into your body, or clog your pores.
No isotretinoin ? - Inhibits sebatious gland accelerating aging
No Dutasteride ? - Messing with your hormones is going to accelerate aging. My method already prevents hair loss.
No GHK-cu ? - Reduces the production of cytokins so it increases your risk of dying of cancer. As a general rule, it's not a good idea to mess with your bodies natural signaling. Anything you give your body should be a resource it can use as it wants, not molecule that's going to screw with it's signaling.
No Micro-needling - Accelerates skin aging by damaging the skin. This is why MPMD's looks so terrible into his old age because he microneedles regularly. Red light already increases cell turn over rate and gives your skin the energy to reverse aging and repair itself, and it does this without damaging your skin, making it superior to micro-needling.

 

[Thebuffdon]

Oh my bad. I got you confused with some one else. I didn't block you.

Yah, all that stuff you mentioned is pro-aging.

No SPF50+ PA++++ ? - physical barriers like cloth are safer because they don't absorb into your body, or clog your pores.
No isotretinoin ? - Inhibits sebatious gland accelerating aging
No Dutasteride ? - Messing with your hormones is going to accelerate aging. My method already prevents hair loss.
No GHK-cu ? - Reduces the production of cytokins so it increases your risk of dying of cancer. As a general rule, it's not a good idea to mess with your bodies natural signaling. Anything you give your body should be a resource it can use as it wants, not molecule that's going to screw with it's signaling.
No Micro-needling - Accelerates skin aging by damaging the skin. This is why MPMD's looks so terrible into his old age because he microneedles regularly. Red light already increases cell turn over rate and gives your skin the energy to reverse aging and repair itself, and it does this without damaging your skin, making it superior to micro-needling.

This is some Goatis typ shi thinking if I’ve ever seen it

I disagree with so much here and your general thread

 

[noodlelover]

This is some Goatis typ shi thinking if I’ve ever seen it

I disagree with so much here and your general thread

That's ok. I expected it to fly over most people's heads.

 

[Thebuffdon]

That's ok. I expected it to fly over most people's heads.

Wdym by physical barriers like cloth? PA++++ or whatever should be fine as long as it’s physical and not chemical

+ less absorption of UV rays which is obviously better

Nothing wrong with dutasteride, it inhibits dht as a hormone which isn’t needed after puberty

No MPMD isn’t ageing like shit because of micro needling, I mean what? Obviously roids + ass genetics for aging which is clear because of his pheno, + he’s not that good looking which enhances his perceived ability to age better because of having poorer looks

Micro needling isn’t necessarily bad, it’s meant to damage your skin that’s how it works. Dermastamping is still better obviously but just don’t over do it

 

[noodlelover]

Wdym by physical barriers like cloth? PA++++ or whatever should be fine as long as it’s physical and not chemical

I just don't like messing with my skin barrier if I don't have too. Any topicals have to be rubbed off and could clog the pores.

Cloth blocks most UV rays, such as a hat. Plus not going out when the sun is high in the sky, because early morning and late evening, most of the UV rays get blocked by the atmosphere.

+ less absorption of UV rays which is obviously better

Nothing wrong with dutasteride, it inhibits dht as a hormone which isn’t needed after puberty

Maybe. Maybe not. I believe it's involved in brain function and other bodily processes.

No MPMD isn’t ageing like shit because of micro needling, I mean what? Obviously roids + ass genetics for aging which is clear because of his pheno, + he’s not that good looking which enhances his perceived ability to age better because of having poorer looks

That too.

Micro needling isn’t necessarily bad, it’s meant to damage your skin that’s how it works. Dermastamping is still better obviously but just don’t over do it

The skin is an intelligent organ. I believe it will react to being damaged like that in an unnatural way such as becoming thicker, as well as scaring, and you're opening your self up for infections and further damage by having open wounds, further accelerating aging.

I believe this is the primary reason why MPMD's face looks the way it does. When I was doing DRMA stamp my skin started to look like that as well. It now looks younger and healthier with red light + biotin & collagen supplementation.

This is all speculative. It may be decades before either of us is vindicated.

 

[Thebuffdon]

I just don't like messing with my skin barrier if I don't have too. Any topicals have to be rubbed off and could clog the pores.

Cloth blocks most UV rays, such as a hat. Plus not going out when the sun is high in the sky, because early morning and late evening, most of the UV rays get blocked by the atmosphere.

Maybe. Maybe not. I believe it's involved in brain function and other bodily processes.

That too.

The skin is an intelligent organ. I believe it will react to being damaged like that in an unnatural way such as becoming thicker, as well as scaring, and you're opening your self up for infections and further damage by having open wounds, further accelerating aging.

I believe this is the primary reason why MPMD's face looks the way it does. When I was doing DRMA stamp my skin started to look like that as well. It now looks younger and healthier with red light + biotin & collagen supplementation.

This is all speculative. It may be decades before either of us is vindicated.

It’s fine to mess with the skin barrier. Skin cells are designed to down or up regulate production of different oils based on how it receives topical treatment, with the exception of things like moisturising which i rarely do, because the skin gets used to not having to produce its own moisture and stops it as a result.

It’s fine if you put most stuff on your skin which isn’t too harsh it won’t age it as long as it’s not some extreme shit like isotret like you age, which isn’t a divisive anti ageing protocol anyway where most ppl use some form of retinoid and have a skincare routine etc, it’s fine to do that.

Yes that’s why after you drma stamp you have to leave it and not suscept it to dirt etc so that it doesn’t clog up. I stamp and my skin looks fine been doing it for months. I believe it’s a natural way for the skin cells to heal themselves and promote cellular aging as well I don’t see why this wouldn’t be the case because it’s acute damage. I guess it’s just about what works for you tho.

I wouldn’t advise using any supplements unless you holistically know the ingredients which are in it, it’s no diff to regular product or food which includes preservatives etc, Depending on the product tho ofc.

I mostly do skincare for colouring anyway I agree with everything you said about diet etc

 

[Thebuffdon]

It’s fine to drink fruit juice if it’s natural and wild fruit + you should drink less water unless it’s filtered mine is filtered I’m assuming yours is also

 

[noodlelover]

It’s fine to mess with the skin barrier. Skin cells are designed to down or up regulate production of different oils based on how it receives topical treatment,

Unless you're giving yourself topical treatment constantly every second, which is impossible, you're giving yourself an uneven flow which is sub-optimal to letting your skin self regulate.

with the exception of things like moisturising which i rarely do, because the skin gets used to not having to produce its own moisture and stops it as a result.

Anything topical is going to be sub-optimal. Vit-C, Vit-E which have the most studies behind them are still going to be worse when applied topically compared to getting them through the diet. I also supplement with Vit-C in pill form everyday, I didn't mention that above.

But think of it like this, these are like bricks, supplies for your skin. Imagine going to a construction site and dropping off a ton of bricks everyday in huge piles everywhere. You don't ask how many bricks are needed. You just drop off a huge amount.

This is going to get in the way of everything and mess with the building processes. The skin needs specific amounts in specific ratios in specific frequencies.

Sure, your skin will do it's best to use whatever topicals you give it, but they won't be in the optimal ratios for optimal functionality, or looks.

The skin care studies don't measure everything, but we can still reason up from first principles to this conclusion. This is why some skin care scientists speculate that topicals like Vit-C could reduce elastin. It's like supplying more bricks without the optimal ratio of cement to go between the bricks. So your body clobbers it together in an incorrect way. It literally can't put your skin together correctly because it has the wrong ratios.

Your blood vessels can deliver the optimal ratios in the optimal quantities. There's no reason not to deliver nutrients this way, and no reason for topicals if nutrients are delivered this way.

Studies on the effectiveness of topicals are done mostly on regular people who don't have a nutrient dense diet. I didn't mention this but niacin also results in increased micro veins to ensure deliver of nutrients to the skin.

It’s fine if you put most stuff on your skin which isn’t too harsh it won’t age it as long as it’s not some extreme shit like isotret like you age, which isn’t a divisive anti ageing protocol anyway where most ppl use some form of retinoid and have a skincare routine etc, it’s fine to do that.

Yes that’s why after you drma stamp you have to leave it and not suscept it to dirt etc so that it doesn’t clog up. I stamp and my skin looks fine been doing it for months.

My skin also looked fine after a few months. It may have even reversed some wrinkles, I'm not sure it was like a decade ago that I messed with DRMA stamping. It takes multiple years to notice it starting to look thicker and more rubbery.

Now that I stopped messing with my skin topically it looks very good.

I believe it’s a natural way for the skin cells to heal themselves and promote cellular aging as well I don’t see why this wouldn’t be the case because it’s acute damage. I guess it’s just about what works for you tho.

The skin is there to protect you. That's more important to it, than weather you look good at 55. If it believes it's necessary it with turn into calluses, or turn hard and rough, or rubbery, or overly thick. It can think thoughts like "Hey, my face gets injured all the time, let me callus that up".

Every organ of the body is highly intelligent. Maybe we'll be smarter than these organs one day, but in the mean time it's better to give it the supplies it needs, and get out of it's way. Meaning the supplies through the diet, as well as infrared and red light.

I promise you, if you quit doing DRMA stamp and switch to red light your skin will look even better than it does now.

I wouldn’t advise using any supplements unless you holistically know the ingredients which are in it, it’s no diff to regular product or food which includes preservatives etc, Depending on the product tho ofc.

Yes I agree.

I mostly do skincare for colouring anyway I agree with everything you said about diet etc

 

[noodlelover]

It’s fine to drink fruit juice if it’s natural and wild fruit + you should drink less water unless it’s filtered mine is filtered I’m assuming yours is also

If it has the pulp it's fine.

The pulp is the fiber. Without the fiber it goes through your digestive system quickly spiking glucoes. Your body can't use glucose that quickly, so it accumulates faster than it's being used.

This results in excess glucose being jammed into the sides of the vein walls and organs forming glycation end products witch are a form of aging, that gunk of the machinery of the body resulting in faster aging of the body.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho2]

Do Everyday:

• Cardio Everyday
  • Not too much, not too little. You don't want to kill yourself everyday because that is pro-aging. But get your heart pumping and push yourself a little bit. Anecdotally I look soo much younger when doing cardio everyday, vs 3 times week.
• Red Light Face Mask Everyday
  • You can look up the science on your own, but this needs to be part of your everyday routine if you want to anti-age max
• Meditation before bed (Ideally with red light mask everyday).
  • Meditation before bed increases sleep quality a huge amount. The smallest amount of stress that you don't even know about decreases sleep quality. With deep sleep you get deep repair. Sexual arousal also decreases sleep quality. So if you look at pictures of hot girls on Instagram or whatever, you are fucking up your sleep quality even if you coom.
• Methelyn Blue Everyday
• No Processed foods & No foods with Glycemic index higher than 60
  • They are pro-aging. We're not evolved for them. Start reading books like wheat belly if you need to be convinced, and keep reading.
• Only drink water (No cigarettes, alcohol, pot, fruit juice, etc.)
• A NAD Booster everyday - I take niacin
• A supplement containing collagen & Biotin (for skin, hair and nails). Yes, this will
• Creatine - for brain health. Even if you eat tons of meat, you're still not getting the optima dose of creatine

Periodic Routine:

• A Senolytic Stack 2-3 days a month - to clear out scenecent cells
• Periodic Fasting of AT LEAST THREE DAYS OF ZERO CALORIES - needed to regenerate immune system and flood body with stem cells. Both are important for anti-aging
• Follow anti-aging content creators and read the actual studies (Don't necessarily trust them, but use them to keep up to date on new studies)
• Cold Therapy, Heat Therapy, Oxygen Deprivation, Inversion therapy (Hanging upside down).
• Shower - Shower only when you really need it, and if you can stand it do a cold shower. The hot water dries out your skin and ages you. Having to apply topical crap on after even if it's "good stuff like Vit C & E" with studies behind it, isn't ideal. It's ideal to get all of your nutrients through your food and not fuck with your skin barrier.

You can look up the studies for all of these. You'll find many are mice studies which many of you will dismiss. However, if you understand the method of action, and you understand weather or not that method of action is applicable to human physiology, you'll be able to make an educated guess for human physiology. Researching how human physiology is different from mice physiology will help you adopt the mice protocols for human protocols.

Yes, I'm aware that most drugs that work on mice don't work on humans, but again the point is to undersand mice and human phsyiologies well enough that you can make an educated guess. Refine your protocols as we get the results of more experiments.

Do you use methylene blue orally or topically
Also what about melatonin, it seems to be a very strong antioxidant
There have been some studies with it being used topically on the skin

 

[noodlelover]

Do you use methylene blue orally or topically

Orally.

I never do topicals. I explain my reasoning in a post above to the buff done.

(I use to do topicals like Vit C & E. I've read multiple books on skincare by different skin care scientists, and my skin care philosophy has gone through multiple evolutions over the years)

Also what about melatonin, it seems to be a very strong antioxidant

The brain produces this naturally so I don't supplement with it.

There have been some studies with it being used topically on the skin

Interesting. Remember though, all studies are done on average people with average diets, and average routines.

Not that they can be discounted but that it may be better, to for example optimize ones body to produce it more optimally with pre bed time sleep routines.

But sometimes I will use melatonin and Apigenin combined, if my sleep schedule is going off track. Or Apigenin alone to improve my sleep schedule occasionally.

 

[(In)CelibatePsycho2]

Orally.

I never do topicals. I explain my reasoning in a post above to the buff done.

(I use to do topicals like Vit C & E. I've read multiple books on skincare by different skin care scientists, and my skin care philosophy has gone through multiple evolutions over the years)

The brain produces this naturally so I don't supplement with it.

Interesting. Remember though, all studies are done on average people with average diets, and average routines.

Not that they can be discounted but that it may be better, to for example optimize ones body to produce it more optimally with pre bed time sleep routines.

But sometimes I will use melatonin and Apigenin combined, if my sleep schedule is going off track. Or Apigenin alone to improve my sleep schedule occasionally.

The body produces vitamin D too but it’s still good to supplement it if your body isn’t producing the optimal amount

It seems likely that our bodies tend to produce less melatonin than is ideal for anti-aging

I know Leo and Longevity took 50 mg a day for anti aging, and Clavicular takes like 100 mg I think

How much methylene blue do you take a day

 

[Thebuffdon]

Unless you're giving yourself topical treatment constantly every second, which is impossible, you're giving yourself an uneven flow which is sub-optimal to letting your skin self regulate.



Anything topical is going to be sub-optimal. Vit-C, Vit-E which have the most studies behind them are still going to be worse when applied topically compared to getting them through the diet. I also supplement with Vit-C in pill form everyday, I didn't mention that above.

But think of it like this, these are like bricks, supplies for your skin. Imagine going to a construction site and dropping off a ton of bricks everyday in huge piles everywhere. You don't ask how many bricks are needed. You just drop off a huge amount.

This is going to get in the way of everything and mess with the building processes. The skin needs specific amounts in specific ratios in specific frequencies.

Sure, your skin will do it's best to use whatever topicals you give it, but they won't be in the optimal ratios for optimal functionality, or looks.

The skin care studies don't measure everything, but we can still reason up from first principles to this conclusion. This is why some skin care scientists speculate that topicals like Vit-C could reduce elastin. It's like supplying more bricks without the optimal ratio of cement to go between the bricks. So your body clobbers it together in an incorrect way. It literally can't put your skin together correctly because it has the wrong ratios.

Your blood vessels can deliver the optimal ratios in the optimal quantities. There's no reason not to deliver nutrients this way, and no reason for topicals if nutrients are delivered this way.

Studies on the effectiveness of topicals are done mostly on regular people who don't have a nutrient dense diet. I didn't mention this but niacin also results in increased micro veins to ensure deliver of nutrients to the skin.

My skin also looked fine after a few months. It may have even reversed some wrinkles, I'm not sure it was like a decade ago that I messed with DRMA stamping. It takes multiple years to notice it starting to look thicker and more rubbery.

Now that I stopped messing with my skin topically it looks very good.

The skin is there to protect you. That's more important to it, than weather you look good at 55. If it believes it's necessary it with turn into calluses, or turn hard and rough, or rubbery, or overly thick. It can think thoughts like "Hey, my face gets injured all the time, let me callus that up".

Every organ of the body is highly intelligent. Maybe we'll be smarter than these organs one day, but in the mean time it's better to give it the supplies it needs, and get out of it's way. Meaning the supplies through the diet, as well as infrared and red light.

I promise you, if you quit doing DRMA stamp and switch to red light your skin will look even better than it does now.

Yes I agree.

I will get on red light but I don’t see a reason to drop derma stamping

It’s the same as not going to the gym thinking it will age you slower when in actuality it will age you faster because your body will atrophy as it sees no reason to use your muscles, your bone density will decrease and you will develop osteoporosis faster, this can be seen with dexa scans:

Same logic with drma. If the skin doesn’t undergo acute damage it has no reason to produce more collagen because there is no stress being applied to the skin. This won’t age the skin faster it will just damage it temporarily and repair whilst increasing collagen production. Sure I agree with diet obviously but you can still do more topically which has a high absorption rate which is why I disagree with your notion that anything topical is a looksmin which isn’t true in my opinion, although I could be wrong. I’ve yet to see an argument which convinced me otherwise

 

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The body produces vitamin D too but it’s still good to take more if your body is producing the optimal amount

Debatable. Vit D supplementation may lead to bone spurts.

It's unclear if it helps all cause mortality. It may help.

I'm not against taking supplements orally. I wake up everday and take a stack of supplements longer than what I listed in the first post. I just wrote what I believe are the most important things I do, and easiest to justify.

I just don't think delivery through the skin is optimal, because your not giving your skin the choice of what ratios and how much it wants when you do that. I use the analogy of dropping off piles of bricks at a construction site, without asking how much is needed. It's going to get in the way of what's being built.

Based on the studies it seems like our bodies tend to produce less melatonin than is ideal for anti-aging

The average person. But good to know.

I know Leo and Longevity took 50 mg a day for anti aging, and Clavicular takes like 100 mg I think

Interesting. I don't like messing with my natural hormone process. I know some people do take melatonin before bed with the goals of it being anti-aging for them.

I don't have strong opinions on this one way or another, but it's not something I want to do, since I don't mess with hormones directly, as I don't believe we fully understand the human body and there's risks with messing with the signaling of something we don't fully know.

How much methylene blue do you take a day

I'm not sure. a little quirt. not very much. I get headaches if I do more.

 

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I will get on red light but I don’t see a reason to drop derma stamping

It’s the same as not going to the gym thinking it will age you slower when in actuality it will age you faster because your body will atrophy as it sees no reason to use your muscles,

Yes. There's an optimal level of hormesis. Too much or too little is pro-aging.

What's best for the skin is super speculative, and much of my reasoning has to do with my own results, and the results I see of other people who use DMA pen, or stamp, compared to the people that only use red light.

only using red light mogs, DRMA stamp + red light, imho. But this is all anecdotal.

your bone density will decrease and you will develop osteoporosis faster, this can be seen with dexa scans:

Same logic with drma. If the skin doesn’t undergo acute damage it has no reason to produce more collagen because there is no stress being applied to the skin. This won’t age the skin faster it will just damage it temporarily and repair whilst increasing collagen production.

I get the logic.

But red light is enough to trigger the skin into producing more collagen and reverse wrinkles.

I think damage ontop of this process already occurring such as with DRMA stamp results in worse skin health.

It's very easy for people to over do things, that want to do everything they can.

Again, it's all speculative because we don't have the long term studies, but I think I'm right.

Sure I agree with diet obviously but you can still do more topically

I disagree.

If the construction crew has ordered all the supplies they needed, and they are getting it, then dropping off random piles of bricks is only going to get in their way.

which has a high absorption rate which is why I disagree with your notion that anything topical is a looksmin which isn’t true in my opinion,

Exactly. It's being absorbed so the "construction crews" are building with the WRONG ratios of elements, not what they ordered. Resulting in skin structures that are less functional, which would result in them aging faster in the long run.

although I could be wrong. I’ve yet to see an argument which convinced me otherwise

Clearer now?