Best countries for Geomaxxing

[orangomango2003]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

Europe

A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

 

[Zeta]

Mirin thread, you put The Netherlands in the correct spot!

 

[vzidel]

would rather live in the us where everything’s advanced, only other place i’d live would be monaco, perhaps spain and france

 

[Edgarpill]

Netherlands women are literally one of the best snow bunnies

 

[Xangsane]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

Dnrd
Afghanistan mogs

 

[orangomango2003]

would rather live in the us where everything’s advanced, only other place i’d live would be monaco, perhaps spain and france

I agree since wages in the US and Western Europe are high, but i still enjoy traveling to countries where my SMV is higher to feel what it's like to be Chad.

 

[Deleted member 66828]

how about finland

 

[Xangsane]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

View attachment 3043722


Europe

View attachment 3043740

A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

Btw turkey is Asia not Europe

 

[orangomango2003]

Netherlands women are literally one of the best snow bunnies

Netherlands women are BBC-only and 6'2-Only. a 5'7 prettyboy like me is better off traveling to the manlet parts of the world.

 

[orangomango2003]

Btw turkey is Asia not Europe

Turkey is transcontinental. It's the bridge between Europe and Asia. Could have also put it as Asia like i did with Georgia but it doesn't really matter.

​

 

[Xangsane]

Turkey is transcontinental. It's the bridge between Europe and Asia. Could have also put it as Asia like i did with Georgia but it doesn't really matter.

​

Yes but saying turkey is Europe is saying Bermuda is a US state

 

[mathis]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

View attachment 3043722


Europe

View attachment 3043740

A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

View attachment 3043803

S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

What is your opinion on finland / iceland ?

 

[orangomango2003]

What is your opinion on finland / iceland ?

Iceland seems to be easier for jbmaxxing but average height is high and there's not a lot of people which decreases your chances. Finland is good to live in but not that easy to get dates. Both in E-Tier, still better than Norway though.

 

[orangomango2003]

Presuming you have a lot of experience in some of these countries. If you really have 8 inch is it too much for some of the east asians and sea girls?

I don't think being short decreases the pussy depth so it's not because of their height. it mostly has to do with their experience. they haven't experienced 8 inches or bigger often or at all so it will be more painful to them since they aren't used to it. some girls have a lot of sexual experience and some not at all. i never had someone reject me for it but they do ask me to slowdown. however after some adjusting i can go full speed so it doesn't really matter in my experience. it's not like you have to insert your whole dick you can just insert half of it at first until she wants more.

 

[Acne Victim]

Putting india in B tier is pretty crazy ngl, I've never read a successful geomax story from there that comes even close to EE/latam and specially SEA

And what's the rationale behind putting soviets in A tier while western slavs in C or lower?

 

[orangomango2003]

Bruh wat. A smaller person on avg will have a smaller dick and pussy and then when you account for race its doubly true. Why you think those scandinavian 5’10+ staceys are 6’4+ viking chad only? And most asians in the world are 4x4

That's not how it works. Height has nothing to do with penis size or vagina size. a tall asian man is more likely to have a small dick than a short white man. Even if short asian women on average had a smaller vagina that doesn't mean they all do and the vaginal canal’s ability to stretch means that it can comfortably accommodate variations in penis size. 8 inches is no problem for most women whatever size. it's not like short women can't have big boobs either.

 

[orangomango2003]

Putting india in B tier is pretty crazy ngl, I've never read a successful geomax story from there that comes even close to EE/latam and specially SEA

And what's the rationale behind putting soviets in A tier while western slavs in C or lower?

looks like you've never travelled in your life. why would you think poland should be ranked higher than georgia? poland nowadays is very developed and the average male is 180cm.

 

[orangomango2003]

Logically think about this for a second. If on average a shorter person has smaller everything-hands, feet etc on average when same race, why would that not transfer to genitals

because that's not how genetics work. for example if your parents have genetics for you having a big penis but both are also short in height there's no reason for you to get a small dick even though you will likely become short. the genetics are seperate from eachother. i'm 5'7 and i have size 44 and 8 inches. you are talking about averages but genetics don't care about averages. the body can't think for itself the blueprint is determined by genetics. why do you think south americans have a bigger average penis size than asians while also being short? that's because the genetics for dick size and the genetics for height are two seperate genetics. the genetics for height itself are also not black-and-white. there are thousands of genes influencing height and penis size so even if you have tall parents with big dicks there's a chance you could become short with a small dick.

 

[Acne Victim]

looks like you've never travelled in your life. why would you think poland should be ranked higher than georgia? poland nowadays is very developed and the average male is 180cm.

Because JBE doesn't work among churkas.

[SHITSKINS GTFIH] A continuation of yesterday's thread. A potential explanation for JBB in Jewrope. Massive lifefuel for shitskins.

This is the continue of my last thread about how brown skin overcomes PSL bonez theories. https://incels.is/threads/browns-gtfih-being-brown-is-so-op-that-its-even-overcomes-most-of-the-psl-theories.625963/ Today I was waging as an Uber Eats courier for 4h in the city centre and it was fucking...

incels.is

Read this, sir.

 

[orangomango2003]

Because JBE doesn't work among churkas.

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This is the continue of my last thread about how brown skin overcomes PSL bonez theories. https://incels.is/threads/browns-gtfih-being-brown-is-so-op-that-its-even-overcomes-most-of-the-psl-theories.625963/ Today I was waging as an Uber Eats courier for 4h in the city centre and it was fucking...

incels.is

Read this, sir.

i'm white. have you ever been to poland or georgia? my experience has been better in georgia. average height is lower and people are poor, which means a white man like me has more value. the thread you've linked doesn't make any sense, explain

 

[orangomango2003]

Makes sense on height but race should affect it unless you are saying race also does not

why would race affect it?

 

[orangomango2003]

You said yourself, south americans bigger than asians but both are short, why would that not apply to women too

that's just averages. and the penis is not the same as the vagina. men don't really select for tight pussies while women do select for a bigger penis. it's not like you can't reproduce if the women has a tight pussy. a really tight pussy wouldn't be a deal-breaker while a 4 inch dick would be a deal-breaker more often.

there haven't been any studies to prove asian women have tighter pussies. some will have tighter pussies and some will not. you can't say that asians have tighter pussies when only a percentage of them do. in my experience the biggest factor is their experience not their height or ethnicity. women who are used to 4-5 inches have a harder time adjusting to 8 inches compared to women used to 6-7 inches.

 

[PoopyFaceTomatoNose]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

Since UK people are ugly goblins, why did you put the country in E- Tier? Doesn't it mean that it would be easy as fuck for an American or European incel to mog the average guy there? And why is Germany also E-Tier?

 

[orangomango2003]

Since UK people are ugly goblins, why did you put the country in E- Tier? Doesn't it mean that it would be easy as fuck for an American or European incel to mog the average guy there? And why is Germany also E-Tier?

UK women have high standards. and i'm mainly talking about the quality of the women. UK men are not very attractive either so you will mog slightly more than other countries such as Sweden, but the women you would get is much worse. you will mog more (therefore E tier instead of F), but the only women attracted to you are fat/ugly. british women are more ugly than british men.

german men are tall so that makes it already harder than most countries. it's also one of the more wealthy countries. germany is netherlands lookswise but slightly shorter and therefore easier.

 

[PoopyFaceTomatoNose]

UK women have high standards. and i'm mainly talking about the quality of the women. UK men are not very attractive either so you will mog slightly more than other countries such as Sweden, but the women you would get is much worse. you will mog more (therefore E tier instead of F), but the only women attracted to you are fat/ugly. british women are more ugly than british men.

german men are tall so that makes it already harder than most countries. it's also one of the more wealthy countries. germany is netherlands lookswise but slightly shorter and therefore easier.

How come British women are uglier than British men if a recessed maxilla and pasty skin are way bigger failos on men than on women?

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

What about Central Asia?

 

[orangomango2003]

What about Central Asia?

there are better options. from EU or NA plane tickets will be expensive. flying to south/east asia will get you better results for almost the same money.

kazakhstan (almaty) is the best option for central asia, especially if you speak russian.

 

[spermium]

Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.

Why not that easy nigga

 

[WhoTookVendetta]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

View attachment 3043722


Europe

View attachment 3043740

A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

View attachment 3043803

S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

The more ppl know bout geomaxxing the more competition

Thats y it should be gatekeeped

 

[diamondbill]

You got absolutely everything wrong about Portugal, better luck next time boyo

but yeah I think you should travel to Portugal and see how "easy" it is

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

ive never "geomaxxed" but my family go on international holidays 2-3x a year, mostly Europe heres my thoughts on ur rankings (which may be helpful to non white guys)

Spoiler: The rankings

Im 6'4.25" slim build wide bidelt and mtn bordering htn face, northern pakistani ethnicity (slightly more tanned salludon pheno essentially)

S tier-
Portugal- Full of manlets, girls are cute but sometimes end up looking a bit ethnic. I am obviously ethnic myself so this actually helps me since i dont look as out of place as i do in somewhere like Sweden. The girls are pretty kind, ive never had sex with them so idk about how chaste they are but theyre willing to go on dates with a boy they met an hour ago so probably not very.

Poland- I have no idea why but in my experience in Poland itself and with Polish girls in England Polish girls are wayyy more willing to date non whites than any other euro country. When i went to Poland i got alot more attention from girls than in any other European country. Also switching my hinge location from England to Poland probably tripled my matches. Polish men are pretty tall but i never really got mogged because theyre ugly as fuck and im still very tall. Polish women are probably the hottest in Europe.

Turkey- Easy as shit for me to slay in Turkey because theyre all brown anyway, the girls are cute if they dont have huge noses and same as Portugal everyone is super short so im giantmaxxed. Going to Turkey again soon and this time ill use tinder or hinge while im there to try fuck a few women which will probably be easy. Also for dickcels Turkey has i think the second smallest average dick size in "Europe" 5.1 inches.

A tier-
Spain, its just Portugal but the men are taller.

maybe The Netherlands since im tall, Dutch women dont seem to really care about me being brown, one of my own cousins is married to a Dutch woman. If ur not 6'4" minimum though you probably wont do well in The Netherlands being non white, if ur white 6ft is the minimum

B tier-
Top B tier is Germany, it could have been A but i havent been enough so im not sure. Cute girls average height men, little language barrier and the women arent super picky

Italy Greece France, all for the same reasons so ill bunch them together, higher average height, Italy and Greece are kinda brown but due to fucking immigrants committing crimes the women in all three are alot more weary of non white guys, also they hate tourists and people who dont speak their language.

The Nordic countries, the men are too pretty, mog me brutally even if the average height is only 5'10 not super super hard to get girls but if u want pale girls just go to Poland bro

C tier-
The Rest of Europe basically, no point, ur too brown to pull them

Sorry this guide doesnt include cost of living and shit lol, im 17 when i travel my parents pay for stuff

 

[orangomango2003]

You got absolutely everything wrong about Portugal, better luck next time boyo

but yeah I think you should travel to Portugal and see how "easy" it is

C Tier is not easy. I've been to Portugal and it was significantly easier as a white manlet compared to the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, France etc. the average portuguese girl is like 5'3. the average dutch woman is 5'7. i'm not saying portugal is easy i'm just saying it's easy in comparison.

 

[rubberduck]

Have you actually been to all these countries? You list not speaking English as a con for Thailand and speaking English as a pro for India, which is definitely not true. Been to Thailand many times and it is one of the easiest countries to get around with English, about half the population speaks it. In India it is 12%. I live in an Indian city in Canada and they mess up my order every single time I eat out because they barely speak English. In Thailand they’ve never messed up my order and understand far better. Also Indians do not date outside their race, less than perhaps ANY race. so it is an absolute shit place to try geomaxxing.

 

[orangomango2003]

Have you actually been to all these countries? You list not speaking English as a con for Thailand and speaking English as a pro for India, which is definitely not true. Been to Thailand many times and it is one of the easiest countries to get around with English, about half the population speaks it. In India it is 12%. I live in an Indian city in Canada and they mess up my order every single time I eat out because they barely speak English. In Thailand they’ve never messed up my order and understand far better. Also Indians do not date outside their race, less than perhaps ANY race. so it is an absolute shit place to try geomaxxing.

i've been to thailand. in india i was only 1 day for flight layover and most people were able to communicate. sources claim most thai and indian people don't speak english and i've experienced the same although there are big regional and class differences in thailand and india itself. thai people who have jobs in tourism will speak better english than the average person. i agree with you that i've worded it incorrectly. for a short-term visit thailand is always superior than thailand.

basically educated indians speak much better english than educated thai, but the average uneducated indian doesn't speak english at all. wealthy thai or thai in tourism speak english too and in general more thai people speak english than indian people.

i'm mainly talking about living in wealthy educated areas in india where english is spoken at a relatively high level.
"41% of respondents with a good financial standing spoke English"
"Only 2% of Indians who are poor can speak English"

"indians don't date outside their race" it doesn't matter what made up rules the culture has, indian woman admire whites and would sleep with them if they had the chance. long-term relationships i do agree are more difficult but that's true for any Asian country since you're just gonna be used for your money/passport.

 

[NubHumanSiggerz]

Yes but saying turkey is Europe is saying Bermuda is a US state

Not a good comparison, because a small part of Turkey, the region that Istnabul is located, is on the European end.

Bermuda is a soverign island nation located nearly 600 miles east of the United States mainland, and has closer ties to British colonial past rather than American. Nearly 80% of Turkey is located on the Anatolian landmass which is technically Asia-minor/ West Asia.

 

[Putin]

Russia has the largest economy in Europe
you are retarded

 

[orangomango2003]

Russia has the largest economy in Europe
you are retarded

germany is more than twice as rich as russia (gdp). and russian average salary is $14k/year. russians outside of moscow are poor like indians. my whole point is that having war with europe is not good for your economy long-term, and in general not good for people to live there since it's unstable.

 

[Putin]

germany is more than twice as rich as russia (gdp). and russian average salary is $14k/year. russians outside of moscow are poor like indians. my whole point is that having war with europe is not good for your economy long-term, and in general not good for people to live there since it's unstable.

bad takes.
and the average salary doesn't mean anything, because it doesn't reflect purchasing power, which is crappy in the West. And Russians were poor only in the 90s, after the Americans paid for the collapse of the USSR, they stole money from the country's budget. That was before Putin's arrival. And you are doing the same thing to this day with India and the countries of Africa, you are pumping money and resources out of them. This is called neocolonialism.
And Russia has the highest GDP in Europe.

 

[orangomango2003]

bad takes.
and the average salary doesn't mean anything, because it doesn't reflect purchasing power, which is crappy in the West. And Russians were poor only in the 90s, after the Americans paid for the collapse of the USSR, they stole money from the country's budget. That was before Putin's arrival. And you are doing the same thing to this day with India and the countries of Africa, you are pumping money and resources out of them. This is called neocolonialism.
And Russia has the highest GDP in Europe.
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low IQ i think. according to your logic it's better to live in india and russia than in germany or netherlands. just because india has more people. that's not how it works.

russia has high gdp because of natural resources. the average russian doesn't benefit from that. someone from eu or na who moves to russia isn't going to become rich from selling oil, gas or weapons.

if you become a high level teacher in russia in moscow after years of experience you earn maybe 1000 euros which is comparable to earning 1600-2000 euros in germany when adjusting for purchasing power. the german average teacher at that same level earns like 5000 euros (5 times as much, while russia is only 50% cheaper) russia only looks wealthy because of its high population and natural resources, the average russian is poor. russia is a shithole outside of moscow.

 

[Putin]

Bad take once again.

low IQ i think. according to your logic it's better to live in india and russia than in germany or netherlands. just because india has more people. that's not how it works.

We were talking not about the standard of living, but about the economy. India and Russia have more of it. And don't forget that you owe it to India that your countries are rich now, at one point in history you made India your colony and robbed, the same thing is happening now through financial tricks.

russia has high gdp because of natural resources. the average russian doesn't benefit from that. someone from eu or na who moves to russia isn't going to become rich from selling oil, gas or weapons.

Of course, the average Russian does not get anything directly from this, but natural resources increase the wealth of the country, which affects its inhabitants.
you are mistaken if you think that life in Russia is worse than in the West.

if you become a high level teacher in russia in moscow after years of experience you earn maybe 1000 euros which is comparable to earning 1600-2000 euros in germany when adjusting for purchasing power.

You've already lied to me at least the fifth time.
116 354 rub is average salary in Moscow, that's how much waiters earn in restaurants.
116 354 rubles=1 253 euro

the german average teacher at that same level earns like 5000 euros (5 times as much, while russia is only 50% cheaper) russia only looks wealthy because of its high population and natural resources, the average russian is poor. russia is a shithole outside of moscow.

I bet you lied to me about the teacher in Germany, I won't even check. Russia does not seem rich because of the high population, for example, almost the same number of people live in Japan, and Japan's GDP is lower. At the same time, Japan is considered one of the most developed countries in the world.
Outside of Moscow, Russia is not a shithole, I lived both in Moscow and in the Urals, the standard of living is not much different.

 

[Deleted member 63772]

Average org user getsmogged to oblivion in south korea

 

[orangomango2003]

Average org user getsmogged to oblivion in south korea

Average org use gets mogged in every developed country. Good for me that i'm above average

 

[orangomango2003]

Bad take once again.

We were talking not about the standard of living, but about the economy. India and Russia have more of it. And don't forget that you owe it to India that your countries are rich now, at one point in history you made India your colony and robbed, the same thing is happening now through financial tricks.

Of course, the average Russian does not get anything directly from this, but natural resources increase the wealth of the country, which affects its inhabitants.
you are mistaken if you think that life in Russia is worse than in the West.

You've already lied to me at least the fifth time.
116 354 rub is average salary in Moscow, that's how much waiters earn in restaurants.
116 354 rubles=1 253 euro

I bet you lied to me about the teacher in Germany, I won't even check. Russia does not seem rich because of the high population, for example, almost the same number of people live in Japan, and Japan's GDP is lower. At the same time, Japan is considered one of the most developed countries in the world.
Outside of Moscow, Russia is not a shithole, I lived both in Moscow and in the Urals, the standard of living is not much different.

Bad take once again.

We were talking not about the standard of living, but about the economy. India and Russia have more of it. And don't forget that you owe it to India that your countries are rich now, at one point in history you made India your colony and robbed, the same thing is happening now through financial tricks.

Of course, the average Russian does not get anything directly from this, but natural resources increase the wealth of the country, which affects its inhabitants.
you are mistaken if you think that life in Russia is worse than in the West.

You've already lied to me at least the fifth time.
116 354 rub is average salary in Moscow, that's how much waiters earn in restaurants.
116 354 rubles=1 253 euro

I bet you lied to me about the teacher in Germany, I won't even check. Russia does not seem rich because of the high population, for example, almost the same number of people live in Japan, and Japan's GDP is lower. At the same time, Japan is considered one of the most developed countries in the world.
Outside of Moscow, Russia is not a shithole, I lived both in Moscow and in the Urals, the standard of living is not much different.

Waiters don't earn 1253 euros in russia. More like 5k/year. Go suck putin dick more its embarrassing

 

[Putin]

Waiters don't earn 1253 euros in russia. More like 5k/year. Go suck putin dick more its embarrassing

dude, I have a friend in Moscow, he studies at the university and works as a waiter in the summer, he earns even more than 1253 euros per month. You can Google the average salary in Moscow yourself if you don't believe me.
it is 116 354 rub or 1253 euro.

 

[jflkiefmaxxing]

Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany

F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.

E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.

A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines

B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.

E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).

What countries would you say is the best for a black man

 

[orangomango2003]

dude, I have a friend in Moscow, he studies at the university and works as a waiter in the summer, he earns even more than 1253 euros per month. You can Google the average salary in Moscow yourself if you don't believe me.
it is 116 354 rub or 1253 euro.

moscow the richest city in russia and you're proud of full time 1253 euros a month. and having a friend in moscow is not proof. the average waiter base salary in moscow is around 5000 euro/year and if you're just starting around 4000 euro/year. it depends on the specific job and with tips it can become more but the range per month is 450-1000. more than 12k/year is very rare as a waiter. can you give me the source that says the average salary for a waiter in moscow is 1253 euros?

 

[Putin]

moscow the richest city in russia and you're proud of full time 1253 euros a month. and having a friend in moscow is not proof. the average waiter base salary in moscow is around 5000 euro/year and if you're just starting around 4000 euro/year. it depends on the specific job and with tips it can become more but the range per month is 450-1000. more than 12k/year is very rare as a waiter. can you give me the source that says the average salary for a waiter in moscow is 1253 euros?

I gave the waiter as an example, since waiters usually receive an average salary.
and 1,253 euros is data for 2021, in fact, the average salary in Moscow in 2023 is higher.

128000 rub=1 378 euro

https://dzen.ru/a/ZWYJL-bBeWKhD4Ng

 

[orangomango2003]

I gave the waiter as an example, since waiters usually receive an average salary.
and 1,253 euros is data for 2021, in fact, the average salary in Moscow in 2023 is higher.
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128000 rub=1 378 euro

https://dzen.ru/a/ZWYJL-bBeWKhD4Ng

And even if what is stated in russian propaganda is true there is no mention of waiter salary. Are you aware that waiters in most countries earn minimum wage or at least get paid below average?

1300 euros average salary is not something to be proud of

 

[Putin]

And even if what is stated in russian propaganda is true there is no mention of waiter salary. Are you aware that waiters in most countries earn minimum wage or at least get paid below average?

1300 euros average salary is not something to be proud of

1300 euros is a salary that is worth being proud of, if we take into account that in other colonies of the USA (such as Ukraine, India, etc.) salaries are even lower. Although Russia became a colony relatively recently, only in 1991, and Putin exempts it from this status.

 

[Barry]

Decent enough thread but there's a lot of bullshit as well. To be expected on a forum full of basement guys on a subject where you have to be well travelled.

Geomaxxing is highly dependent on the individual and it's really complicated. The tier list as I have experienced it:

race
nationality
wealth
status
long-term or short-term plan
looks

Let me explain. Race is probably most important on deciding where you go and the results you'll get. Above everything else. So, quick example from my life; I went to Oxbridge. Met a friend there who is half black. We've both been to China. I get treated very well in East Asia. Not god tier, but not far off. Will explain shortly. But my friend, also Oxbridge, very high paying job, educated, fit and stylish etc. Literally no luck in China - even getting abuse when he worked there. Completely different. Race is probably the factor. If you're a black dude, you don't want to go to certain places, but you will get a boost in places like Africa. If you're a Pakistani/Desi guy, Anglosphere is your bet because of the tolerance factor. If you're blonde hair, blue eyes, SEA or Latin America. If you're white European/American, you have more options but unless you want to be gringo-robbed, have to be careful. Probably don't go to Africa as a white guy.

Nationality is slightly less important than race but it still matters. You can run green card bait and switch if you're from US or UK in poorer places. Not so much if you're from Belarus or whatever. Mostly, this depends on whether your country sends shitty tourists to places. As a UK guy, if I go to Ibiza, will not get a boost because everyone there thinks you're a drunk football hooligan. In China or Japan, they are Anglophiles because their cultural exposure is Downtown Abbey and the Queen and stuff. Americans, some countries you'll do great in. Phillippines. Thailand. Etc. They have a positive expectation. In EU though, not so much. You won't be kicked out of buildings or anything, but won't get halo. If you're an Indian guy with an Indian passport, just pretend you're from somewhere else. Negative halo for your nationality pretty much wherever.

Then next factor is wealth. Some places you'll get massive halo but you have to have money to do it right. And there are places that are open to you if you have money that wouldn't be open if you didn't. Example from this thread; if you're a white, well-educated guy with money, Japan and South Korea are far better than Thailand. The reason most geomaxxers don't go to them is because they're expensive as fuck in comparison. It's the same with the nicer places in Western Europe and the Americas as well.

Status halo is next one and makes a huge difference everywhere you go. Recommend all geomaxxers have a stacked IG account and make it look like they travel and have a great life. That's why I started geomaxxing in the first place. Cheaper to show you go to Michelin restaurants in Vietnam than it is in London. Easier to do exciting shit in Thailand than it is Bumfuck, Ohio. Status is huge because if a random girl from Poland sees you're a guy who has been to 15 countries and has 20k followers on IG, that's different to being just another sleazy backpacker in Thailand looking to fuck ladyboys at the massage parlours.

Girls sus out long term and short term plans quickly and different places are good for different reasons. If you want casual sex with other tourists, then go to short term fling places. Med islands, Thailand, Cambodia, any of those backpacker hotspots. If you want high quality long term, you need to have either residence in a place or you need to explain why you're in a place and that you're there often. E.g. in China or Japan, girls aren't just going to fuck you freely like in Thailand. They're going to figure out whether you're sticking around. Something like "I come here for business every 6 months" is enough, but you have to do it.

Then finally, looks (outside race, wealth, status etc which obviously play a part in your look anyway.) Different places like different looks and styles. If you're a huge muscles guy, you'll get biggest halo in tropical beach places. If you're a nerdy guy or pretty boy, probably want to try out Korea instead of Russia, etc.

Also, got to remember if you're like most of this forum and you're from Western Europe/America, you are rich by most of the world's standards. Got clowns in here saying Russia is a rich country (richest in Europe? fucking lmao) when it's fucking dirt poor. That's an advantage in one way but it's a disadvantage in another because you have to be a player or you're going to get played.