Best countries for Geomaxxing

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Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany


F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.


E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.


A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines


B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.


E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).
Russia is S Tier for Latinocels
 
Decent enough thread but there's a lot of bullshit as well. To be expected on a forum full of basement guys on a subject where you have to be well travelled.

Geomaxxing is highly dependent on the individual and it's really complicated. The tier list as I have experienced it:

race
nationality
wealth
status
long-term or short-term plan
looks

Let me explain. Race is probably most important on deciding where you go and the results you'll get. Above everything else. So, quick example from my life; I went to Oxbridge. Met a friend there who is half black. We've both been to China. I get treated very well in East Asia. Not god tier, but not far off. Will explain shortly. But my friend, also Oxbridge, very high paying job, educated, fit and stylish etc. Literally no luck in China - even getting abuse when he worked there. Completely different. Race is probably the factor. If you're a black dude, you don't want to go to certain places, but you will get a boost in places like Africa. If you're a Pakistani/Desi guy, Anglosphere is your bet because of the tolerance factor. If you're blonde hair, blue eyes, SEA or Latin America. If you're white European/American, you have more options but unless you want to be gringo-robbed, have to be careful. Probably don't go to Africa as a white guy.

Nationality is slightly less important than race but it still matters. You can run green card bait and switch if you're from US or UK in poorer places. Not so much if you're from Belarus or whatever. Mostly, this depends on whether your country sends shitty tourists to places. As a UK guy, if I go to Ibiza, will not get a boost because everyone there thinks you're a drunk football hooligan. In China or Japan, they are Anglophiles because their cultural exposure is Downtown Abbey and the Queen and stuff. Americans, some countries you'll do great in. Phillippines. Thailand. Etc. They have a positive expectation. In EU though, not so much. You won't be kicked out of buildings or anything, but won't get halo. If you're an Indian guy with an Indian passport, just pretend you're from somewhere else. Negative halo for your nationality pretty much wherever.

Then next factor is wealth. Some places you'll get massive halo but you have to have money to do it right. And there are places that are open to you if you have money that wouldn't be open if you didn't. Example from this thread; if you're a white, well-educated guy with money, Japan and South Korea are far better than Thailand. The reason most geomaxxers don't go to them is because they're expensive as fuck in comparison. It's the same with the nicer places in Western Europe and the Americas as well.

Status halo is next one and makes a huge difference everywhere you go. Recommend all geomaxxers have a stacked IG account and make it look like they travel and have a great life. That's why I started geomaxxing in the first place. Cheaper to show you go to Michelin restaurants in Vietnam than it is in London. Easier to do exciting shit in Thailand than it is Bumfuck, Ohio. Status is huge because if a random girl from Poland sees you're a guy who has been to 15 countries and has 20k followers on IG, that's different to being just another sleazy backpacker in Thailand looking to fuck ladyboys at the massage parlours.

Girls sus out long term and short term plans quickly and different places are good for different reasons. If you want casual sex with other tourists, then go to short term fling places. Med islands, Thailand, Cambodia, any of those backpacker hotspots. If you want high quality long term, you need to have either residence in a place or you need to explain why you're in a place and that you're there often. E.g. in China or Japan, girls aren't just going to fuck you freely like in Thailand. They're going to figure out whether you're sticking around. Something like "I come here for business every 6 months" is enough, but you have to do it.

Then finally, looks (outside race, wealth, status etc which obviously play a part in your look anyway.) Different places like different looks and styles. If you're a huge muscles guy, you'll get biggest halo in tropical beach places. If you're a nerdy guy or pretty boy, probably want to try out Korea instead of Russia, etc.

Also, got to remember if you're like most of this forum and you're from Western Europe/America, you are rich by most of the world's standards. Got clowns in here saying Russia is a rich country (richest in Europe? fucking lmao) when it's fucking dirt poor. That's an advantage in one way but it's a disadvantage in another because you have to be a player or you're going to get played.
Europe is poor as fuck, of cource Russia is richer.
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only fucking Germany is not that poor
 
What is your opinion on finland / iceland ?
I've seen some blackcels slay there and sweden. Good for us Blacks, not sure about Europeans though, you guys would just get mogged by nordic men who are second only to like dutch men. They are rich, tall, aryan, etc... why would they downgrade to some other european? I'm sure even Asians would do better than some UKmutt or the like.
 
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Accept the fact that Europe is poor
what do you mean with europe? if you count all of EU together they have $26,6 trillion while russia has only $6 trillion gdp ppp. there's no point in comparing individual european countries like germany to russia and there's no point in using gdp ppp. gdp per capita ppp says more about how wealthy countries are. and russia is part of europe so why you call yourself poor?

gdp per capita (ppp):

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local purchasing power:

moscow is not so bad, even though it's worse than all of western europe.

if you go outside of moscow russia is very poor compared to north and western europe.
 
Thailand, Japan, and some places in Asia in general.
 
what do you mean with europe? if you count all of EU together they have $26,6 trillion while russia has only $6 trillion gdp ppp. there's no point in comparing individual european countries like germany to russia and there's no point in using gdp ppp. gdp per capita ppp says more about how wealthy countries are. and russia is part of europe so why you call yourself poor?

gdp per capita (ppp):

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local purchasing power:

moscow is not so bad, even though it's worse than all of western europe.

if you go outside of moscow russia is very poor compared to north and western europe.
your avi is based so I don't want to argue with you.
 
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good thread
 
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"Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand" hmmm lets see

-Shit Food full of pesticides seed oils & limited vareity due to poor refrigeration
-Cities Crowded, polluted, Shitholes with cats, dogs, rats, trikes, motorbikes, homeless families, rubbish bags
-Women are not that attractive, but are very femmine & agreeable they will do whatever you ask. They have thick lips which I find attractive & different shades of brown skin. Pussies feel amazing you can hurt them in certian postions, and the truth is you can don't have to wear condom (just don't be stupid with this) feeling that brown ass & nutting in brown pussy feels amazing. I got one girl pregnant, but she had a miscarriage (probably from all the fucking microplastics in those 7/11 meals) I'm glad it didn't last, becasue who wants a have Flip kid who doesn't look like you?

Honest advice G? Go somewhere with a higher quality of life, and stop being a loser and improve yourself so you can get higher quality women. Going to third world countries where women are desprate to have enough to eat doesn't count.
 
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I've seen some blackcels slay there and sweden. Good for us Blacks, not sure about Europeans though, you guys would just get mogged by nordic men who are second only to like dutch men. They are rich, tall, aryan, etc... why would they downgrade to some other european? I'm sure even Asians would do better than some UKmutt or the like.
Black and asian do everything but slay there :lul: I literally go in Finlande twice a year girls think yall are subhumans keep lying to yourself
 
Black and asian do everything but slay there :lul: I literally go in Finlande twice a year girls think yall are subhumans keep lying to yourself
Cope!
 
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Good list. Clearly applies to a white man. Otherwise curries are kings in Norway and like Jews in Nazi Germany in the Philippines.
 
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Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany


F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.


E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.


A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines


B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.


E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).
Malaysia is incredible , things are pretty cheap and islamic rules make it better , very modern Kuala Lumpur look like dubai
 
The best countries for geomaxxing are the ones you haven't heard of.
 
What about Cambodia? The women are more attractive there compared to Philippines.
 
ive never "geomaxxed" but my family go on international holidays 2-3x a year, mostly Europe heres my thoughts on ur rankings (which may be helpful to non white guys)

Im 6'4.25" slim build wide bidelt and mtn bordering htn face, northern pakistani ethnicity (slightly more tanned salludon pheno essentially)

S tier-
Portugal- Full of manlets, girls are cute but sometimes end up looking a bit ethnic. I am obviously ethnic myself so this actually helps me since i dont look as out of place as i do in somewhere like Sweden. The girls are pretty kind, ive never had sex with them so idk about how chaste they are but theyre willing to go on dates with a boy they met an hour ago so probably not very.

Poland- I have no idea why but in my experience in Poland itself and with Polish girls in England Polish girls are wayyy more willing to date non whites than any other euro country. When i went to Poland i got alot more attention from girls than in any other European country. Also switching my hinge location from England to Poland probably tripled my matches. Polish men are pretty tall but i never really got mogged because theyre ugly as fuck and im still very tall. Polish women are probably the hottest in Europe.

Turkey- Easy as shit for me to slay in Turkey because theyre all brown anyway, the girls are cute if they dont have huge noses and same as Portugal everyone is super short so im giantmaxxed. Going to Turkey again soon and this time ill use tinder or hinge while im there to try fuck a few women which will probably be easy. Also for dickcels Turkey has i think the second smallest average dick size in "Europe" 5.1 inches.


A tier-
Spain, its just Portugal but the men are taller.

maybe The Netherlands since im tall, Dutch women dont seem to really care about me being brown, one of my own cousins is married to a Dutch woman. If ur not 6'4" minimum though you probably wont do well in The Netherlands being non white, if ur white 6ft is the minimum


B tier-
Top B tier is Germany, it could have been A but i havent been enough so im not sure. Cute girls average height men, little language barrier and the women arent super picky

Italy Greece France, all for the same reasons so ill bunch them together, higher average height, Italy and Greece are kinda brown but due to fucking immigrants committing crimes the women in all three are alot more weary of non white guys, also they hate tourists and people who dont speak their language.

The Nordic countries, the men are too pretty, mog me brutally even if the average height is only 5'10 not super super hard to get girls but if u want pale girls just go to Poland bro


C tier-
The Rest of Europe basically, no point, ur too brown to pull them:feelswhy:
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Sorry this guide doesnt include cost of living and shit lol, im 17 when i travel my parents pay for stuff:lul:
Nigga what about the Czech republic ?
 
Americas

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B-Tier

Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards
Thats not true at all, just learn game in brazil and you’re fine, since plenty of sub Mtn get along with stacys and etc. If you are tall, you’ll get stacylites/stacy(depends on your face card), if you got a chad/chadlite face, you’ll fs get stacy, as long you are not a manlet.
 
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Russia is S Tier for Latinocels
Only if their not giga manlets and castiza phenotype. Average Peruvian or Bolivian pheno latino is gonna get utterly mogged left and right and basically be seen as the typical ethnic.
 
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your avi is based so I don't want to argue with you.
Btw. Whats your opinion on the new Russian migration law for Westners. I want to geomaxx to Russia.
I live in Norway. Always wanted to move dont like it here. In short its the most NPC liberal country.
I am 6'2 and have money. Want to get the most out of it in another country.
 
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Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany


F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.


E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

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S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.


A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines


B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.


E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).
best is Pakistan
 
California is the best place to geomax.
 
Btw. Whats your opinion on the new Russian migration law for Westners. I want to geomaxx to Russia.
I live in Norway. Always wanted to move dont like it here. In short its the most NPC liberal country.
I am 6'2 and have money. Want to get the most out of it in another country.
Russia doesn't want you. Norway is one of the best countries in the world but you still find reasons to hate it. The only thing you can think of is that it's liberal which is actually a good thing. Moscow girls have just as high standards. Being 6'2 means nothing in white countries.

You have some money now but long-term you need a job. And even if you have millions they will be taken from you by russian corrupt government and you will be slave of putin.

Just play some csgo and you will reconsider moving to russia.
 
can you get drafted and die already ?
if we are talking about Russia, then no, if about Ukraine, then it depends on whether you have citizenship
Btw. Whats your opinion on the new Russian migration law for Westners. I want to geomaxx to Russia.
I live in Norway. Always wanted to move dont like it here. In short its the most NPC liberal country.
I am 6'2 and have money. Want to get the most out of it in another country.
many migrants come to Russia on a work visa, judging by their number, it is not difficult to get a work visa
 
Russia doesn't want you. Norway is one of the best countries in the world but you still find reasons to hate it. The only thing you can think of is that it's liberal which is actually a good thing. Moscow girls have just as high standards. Being 6'2 means nothing in white countries.

You have some money now but long-term you need a job. And even if you have millions they will be taken from you by russian corrupt government and you will be slave of putin.

Just play some csgo and you will reconsider moving to russia.
Geomaxxing outside short trips feels like it's made for losers that couldn't make it in their own countries.
 
R
Russia is S Tier for Latinocels
really bro, why do you say? I slayed in Denmark and also dutch hoes elsewhere and I'm Latino so I'm not that surprised tbh.
 
Geomaxxing outside short trips feels like it's made for losers that couldn't make it in their own countries.
That's true. For me 2 weeks max in third world countries.

Sex is not just about physical contact. If you know she's only doing it because you're a rich white man it doesn't feel the same.
 
germany is more than twice as rich as russia (gdp). and russian average salary is $14k/year. russians outside of moscow are poor like indians. my whole point is that having war with europe is not good for your economy long-term, and in general not good for people to live there since it's unstable.
Germany was probably the most depressive gloomy place I’ve ever seen.
 
Germany was probably the most depressive gloomy place I’ve ever seen.
I was in germany just a few days ago and i agree, but russia is not better
 
The retards in here saying dumb shit like “muh you got treated like an ethnic in Europe” yet another reason California mogs lol I’ve never had problems socially being Armenian in the states and also don’t have to deal with 6’3 foids most Stacy’s in USA are 5’5 jfl
I was in germany just a few days ago and i agree, but russia is not better
 
Ok, so here's my problem. I've gotten responses from people on Reddit that basically said that Geomaxxing is dead for the average White passport bro and the average Black passport bro in both Latin America and Eastern Europe, and possibly Asia as well.

Here's what one person had to say: 👇

The dating arbitrage between between the West and Eastern Europe have fallen significantly in the last 10 years, to the point where the difference is becoming negligible. There are number of reasons for that:
Instagram gave direct access to any good looking woman across the world to get a harem of online simps, inflating her sense of self worth and importance
After covid the dating apps were flooded with newcomers and the more men use the apps the more is the percentage of them expanding their "distance" search, increasing the competition for geomaxxing
The relationship and general attitudes between the sexes in the West has been getting progressively worse, increasing the amount of men looking for a partner overseas, again increasing the competition.
After the war in Ukraine started it gave EE women an opportunity to move to the west without relying on a Western man - they can now claim refugee status and rely on government support instead. Once they are in the west and start dating, they quickly realize the local demand for them, and become on par with local women in their attitudes and expectations.

Points 1-3 that this guy lists might easily apply to East Asia and Latin America, too. I fail to see how it wouldn't.

Speaking of Latin America, another guy replied to me saying this: 👇

Colombia is proof that things can change drastically in just one year. It was still heaven on earth in 2023 but in the last 7 or so months they've become pickier, flakier, slower to respond and make a lot more excuses, mirroring north american women almost to a T. It's almost as if a virus infected them.

Both of these seem to line up with what Stardusk, aka Thinking-Ape, laid out in his video titled: It's Over for For Passport Bros.

Is it really that dire? Over-saturated? Or can the average men still Geomaxx in Asia, Latin America and the Former USSR, regardless of whether or not we're black, brown or white?
 
Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

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Europe

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A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany


F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

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B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.


E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

View attachment 3043803


S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.


A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines


B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.


E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).
Honestly do one for blacks, it’s completely different, I might be right by even inversing the whole chart.
 
If you're a nerdy guy or pretty boy, probably want to try out Korea instead of Russia, etc.
Korea is not the place to geomax, the average 18-35 year old Korean looks like a fcking model. I went there last month and got absolutely mogged in Busan. Highly do not recommend
 
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Introduction

I frequently travel third world countries and therefore have noticed differences in my success and would like to share and discuss what countries are best for Geomaxxing. I have ranked the countries based on where I think someone from EU or NA can have the most success in dating-wise. Anything visa related and other factors such as standards and cost of living have been weighed in.

To clarify, a country being higher in the tierlist doesn't mean I would necessary rather live there long-term. I would rather live in Japan than in Thailand, but in terms of Geomaxxing/maximizing SMV Thailand is a better option. You don't have to stay in one place for the rest of your life.

I've noticed that by living in a foreign country and getting laid with foreign girls I also practice social skills and improve communication. Before you can maximize your genetic potential by having children you should practice and improve yourself so you can get the highest quality partner possible.

If you want to move to a different country for a long time you can make a compromise. for example you could live in Japan or South-Korea knowing that your SMV is higher there than in your home country, even though your SMV is even higher in Thailand. It all depends on who you are as a person and what you value. A manlet will not have the same experience as a tall man, and a black man will not have the same experiences as a white man. Some countries are better for short stays and some better for long stays. You can stay in your home country and save money with your high wage and and then have short visits to poor countries.

A HTN doesn't require a third world country like thailand or vietnam to get laid so he might aswell visit Japan or Portugal where he will be treated as a Chad. It's all about your own looks level and the compromise your willing to make. Generally the countries with the highest SMV increase will have the worst quality of life.

Geomaxxing is not just about moving to a different country to increase SMV, it's also about maximizing SMV to gain experiences and improve yourself.


Tierlist

View attachment 3043722


Europe

View attachment 3043740

A-Tier

-Russia and Ukraine: Russia and Ukraine have always been good options for Western European and American incels. Now that the war has officially started the worth of a western men has increased. At the same time there is no freedom and no positive economic outlook. It's hard to stay and live in these countries and therefore they are not in S-tier, but once you can it's very easy and slavic women are much better looking than asian women.

C-Tier

-Portugal: Easy to get visa as a non-EU citizen. Poorer than spain, but similar western standards of living with low costs. average height is around 174cm.
-Poland: Economically similar to portugal, however people are taller. If you care about the height and skin color of your children eastern europe could be a better option.
-Hungary
-Albania: Similar to Portugal in terms of average height but the standards of living are worse and it's generally bad to live there. There's no reason to stay in Albania if you can stay in Portugal.
-Turkey: Similar to Albania, with less freedom and more religion.
-Bulgaria and Moldova: Good options for temporary geomaxxing on a low budget, but there's no way to live there and not become depressed.

D-Tier

-Spain, Italy and Greece: similar to Portugal, except the competition is either better looking or taller. Italians and Spanish are short but have relatively attractive faces, while greeks have less attractive faces but are also taller.
-Czechia: one of the best countries to live in, and women are attractive, but not that easy.
-France: It's basically an African colony and most people don't speak or want to speak English, so I wouldn't want to live there. However some regions are good.
-Estonia: In the baltics everything is good except the people are too tall and there's not much people living in the cities, which decreases your chances.

E-Tier

-UK: The only positive thing about the UK is the fact that everyone speaks english, other than that it's the ugliest country with the ugliest people.
-Germany


F-Tier

-Netherlands: Living in the Netherlands is good, if you don't count getting heightmogged every time you go outside.
-Norway: Everything is expensive and women are chad-only. The competition consists of 6'4 blonde prettyboys.


Americas

View attachment 3043787


B-Tier

-Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil: In South America the average height is low but the average dick size is high. If you are not masculine and you don't have a BWC/BBC South America is not an option. There's no reason to Geomax to South-America when SEA is much safer to live in and has similar standards of living while being easier.
-Dominican Republic: Central America is a good option for a temporary visit from NA if you can't afford SEA.


E-Tier

-USA, Canada


Asia

View attachment 3043803


S-Tier

-Philippines: This is basically a better version of Thailand. The people speak English and there's less tourists. Whites are worshipped. Living is cheaper and women are more attractive compared to other SEA countries. For dating it's the best country, but it's generally a shithole.
-China: Most underrated Geomax country. There's almost no whites especially outside of Beijing and Shanghai and it's not like you will get heightmogged often in shanghai either. There are multiple cities with a population of more than 10 million and more than 50 cities with a population of more than 2 million. A lot of chinese and not a lot of white people. That means a white man has more value. It's mostly safe, cheap and modern. The only negatives are that no one speaks English and you have no freedom.


A-Tier

-Thailand: relatively cheap and more freedom than other asian countries. easy to get sex and prostitution. Issue is that thai people don't speak english and it's very touristy. And watch out for the ladyboys.
-Georgia: Visa-free stay for 1 year. There's a lot of Russian and some Ukrainian refugees. Wages are low so as a foreigner things will be relatively cheap. Cost of living similar to SEA. The only issue is the taller height compared to SEA. Height on average is similar to Spain.
-Taiwan: Basically a more western version of China.
-Indonesia and Malaysia: Everything is good except the strict islamic rules.
-Myanmar: Not a lot of competition (white tourists) since it's a dictatorship, but you also don't have any freedom and it's not really safe. I don't think women from Myanmar are that attractive but it's easy and cheap as long as you go to the safer regions.
-Vietnam: A worse version of the Philippines


B-Tier

-India: Low quality, high quantity. You wouldn't want to live in India, but women speak english and are willing to fuck. Cheaper than Thailand aswell.
-Japan: The Japanese are shorter than Koreans so for that reason it's at least B-Tier. And living in Japan is great. Japan is the better version of China in terms of quality of life. Being white is not that much of a boost in Japan compared to other SEA countries and people are wealthier which means you have less to offer.
-South Korea: Manlets shouldn't visit South Korea, however a white and tall gymmaxxed MTN won't have any problems.


E-Tier
-Israel: Too religious and unstable region. Not F-Tier since white westerners have good status.

Other regions

African and Middle-Eastern countries are all F-Tier (High chances of STD or getting killed).
Canada shouldnt be E- (i live there)
 
philippines (one of the resort typa islands) is so legit you can slay korean, australian, and filipino tourists
 
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Korea is not the place to geomax, the average 18-35 year old Korean looks like a fcking model. I went there last month and got absolutely mogged in Busan. Highly do not recommend

What's your race, PSL and income?

Without knowing those, a couple of tips;

You have to think about what local guys can't do and then embody that. If you're talking Seoul, then you're right. There are a lot of pretty looking guys who are stylish. There aren't a lot of Korean guys who can grow beards and a lot of muscle mass while still being facially attractive. (As in, Ogre-Bear mode does not work at all in Asia. Caveman mogging isn't a thing.)

TBH, I do better in East Asia than I do anywhere else.

As far as competing with Korean guys, the good thing I've found about SK is that the guys don't really compete. It's very friendly and if you can run some sort of social game, the guys are happy to introduce you to girls they know. It's not like, say, SEA or even Taiwan/China where you go a lot of places and have more white guy privilege but it's clear a lot of the men hate you and would stab you if they could get away with it.

Other tips for SK:

You have to be stylish. Don't turn up in tourist outfit. Look like you're a higher class westerner.

Learning even a tiny bit of Korean will go a huge way to getting into social circles. And I mean tiny amount. Like A1 Pimsleur level. Their English is better than your Korean so it's never an issue, but you can easily pipeline by spoofing to SK on Tinder, saying "I'll be here in a month because my company is expanding to SK and I'm looking for a friend to help me learn Korean and show me around before I start working here" and suddenly you'll have a dozen girls wanting to meet up and chat with you.

East Asian culture is both very meritocratic and very reputation-based. For Westerners, that means two things; the more interesting and skilled you are at things, the better. Second, you're never going to fit in, so you have to be better and give the girls something to brag about.

Once you understand these things, you will see results. If you don't it's over tbh.
 
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What's your race, PSL and income?

Without knowing those, a couple of tips;

You have to think about what local guys can't do and then embody that. If you're talking Seoul, then you're right. There are a lot of pretty looking guys who are stylish. There aren't a lot of Korean guys who can grow beards and a lot of muscle mass while still being facially attractive. (As in, Ogre-Bear mode does not work at all in Asia. Caveman mogging isn't a thing.)

TBH, I do better in East Asia than I do anywhere else.

As far as competing with Korean guys, the good thing I've found about SK is that the guys don't really compete. It's very friendly and if you can run some sort of social game, the guys are happy to introduce you to girls they know. It's not like, say, SEA or even Taiwan/China where you go a lot of places and have more white guy privilege but it's clear a lot of the men hate you and would stab you if they could get away with it.

Other tips for SK:

You have to be stylish. Don't turn up in tourist outfit. Look like you're a higher class westerner.

Learning even a tiny bit of Korean will go a huge way to getting into social circles. And I mean tiny amount. Like A1 Pimsleur level. Their English is better than your Korean so it's never an issue, but you can easily pipeline by spoofing to SK on Tinder, saying "I'll be here in a month because my company is expanding to SK and I'm looking for a friend to help me learn Korean and show me around before I start working here" and suddenly you'll have a dozen girls wanting to meet up and chat with you.

East Asian culture is both very meritocratic and very reputation-based. For Westerners, that means two things; the more interesting and skilled you are at things, the better. Second, you're never going to fit in, so you have to be better and give the girls something to brag about.

Once you understand these things, you will see results. If you don't it's over tbh.

Thanks for the info. I was in SK for a little while but I am back in AU now. From my time in Korea (mainly Busan but also Seoul), I feel like the majority of the women have adapted to the physical characteristics of Korean men overtime i.e baby like face, muscular, etc. Being clearly of different ethnicity I can stand out but I do feel like almost all of the women there who are somewhat good looking will turn me down yk.

I wouldn't say I amattractive, spending the majority of my day studying and stuff like that; with that being said I currently am a student - no job. I used to surf multiple times a week and skate a fair bit but gradually stopped overtime. I am 50% Croatian, 50% English (I look very yugoslav/croatian though).

Also, once Air Vanuatu is replaced by another airline, I may be moving to Santo, Vanuatu as my Dad is developing down there and we are building Air BNB's. Vanuatu is a great place to geomax imo as the average male is ltn- (low psl). I know a fair bit of Bislama as well).
 
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You put portugal in the correct place man, mirin the effort🙏
 
what do you mean with europe? if you count all of EU together they have $26,6 trillion while russia has only $6 trillion gdp ppp. there's no point in comparing individual european countries like germany to russia and there's no point in using gdp ppp. gdp per capita ppp says more about how wealthy countries are. and russia is part of europe so why you call yourself poor?

gdp per capita (ppp):

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hdi:

View attachment 3078804

local purchasing power:

moscow is not so bad, even though it's worse than all of western europe.

if you go outside of moscow russia is very poor compared to north and western europe.
UK is fucking pathetic. Without London it would probably be as poor as EE.
 

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