Best Cycle Whilst Looksmaxing

[TylertheLooksmaxer]

(note - some people cannot tolerate tren even at low doses, if so remove the tren and push the anavar)

Testosterone Prop - 20-30mg everyday
Trenbolone Ace - 5-40mg everyday
Anavar - 10-40mg everyday
Hgh - 2-6 ius everyday

Utilize ancillaries like telmisartan and ezetimibe for overall health, pramipexole to manage prolactin, ghkcu, accutane and dutasteride for skin and hair, nootropics to prevent tren neurotoxicity, additional peptides like mt2 for coloring and reta for weight loss, take many supplements too for health as well.

Ideally, I would run higher doses when lean bulking and putting on muscle, for example 210mg/wk of test prop, 280mg/wk of tren ace, 40mg anavar on training days, 20mg on off days and 4-6 ius of hgh everyday, then when cutting down and prioritizing looksmaxing and facial aesthetics, lower test to 140, lower tren to 35-70, lower anavar to 10mg everyday (Ideally 5mg dosed twice and an extra 10mg 1 hour pre workout on training days) and lower hgh down to 2 ius every night all to minimize bloat and prioritize health indicators, a low dose of tren can still provide good anticatabolic benefits whilst not ruining health.

 

[hej1377]

Not horrible but no way,

Tren should pretty rarely be used since so many organs are likely to get raped and its just so incredibly strong. Fucks your brain, hair,liver,heart, kidney everything and obviously you should have a very extensive support compound stack but toure still getting a lot of damage.

High dose deca is superior,slightly less muscle mass but you can pretty much totally avoid side effects

Test is to low

Anavar is low risk but it doesnt have a ton of reward,its fine but no way its part of the best cycle.

To replace it ligandrol is just way better for a bit of extra muscle and strength, if you really want to look dry and hard get primo,maybe even tbol

And igf-1 lr3 is just objectively superior to hgh

 

[TylertheLooksmaxer]

Not horrible but no way,

Tren should pretty rarely be used since so many organs are likely to get raped and its just so incredibly strong. Fucks your brain, hair,liver,heart, kidney everything and obviously you should have a very extensive support compound stack but toure still getting a lot of damage.

High dose deca is superior,slightly less muscle mass but you can pretty much totally avoid side effects

Test is to low

Anavar is low risk but it doesnt have a ton of reward,its fine but no way its part of the best cycle.

To replace it ligandrol is just way better for a bit of extra muscle and strength, if you really want to look dry and hard get primo,maybe even tbol

And igf-1 lr3 is just objectively superior to hgh

This is what works for me as PEDs cause bad facial bloating in me, nandrolone would fuck my shit up not to mention you can’t mix it with duta, high test has bloated me like crazy many times before but I will experiment with higher doses of test prop and see how I respond to that, have heard people can run up to a gram with no bloat, never tried lgd but I have heard it can cause some water retention, I really like anavar in higher end doses though. Main thing I’m concerned with is the neurotoxicity of tren, I can keep bloodwork in check but not my brain.

 

[hej1377]

This is what works for me as PEDs cause bad facial bloating in me, nandrolone would fuck my shit up not to mention you can’t mix it with duta, high test has bloated me like crazy many times before but I will experiment with higher doses of test prop and see how I respond to that, have heard people can run up to a gram with no bloat, never tried lgd but I have heard it can cause some water retention, I really like anavar in higher end doses though. Main thing I’m concerned with is the neurotoxicity of tren, I can keep bloodwork in check but not my brain.

You can mix it with dut,avoiding the dihydronandrolone is good anyway

And you just need caber and some ai,maybe even some furo if you wanna be even leaner, with furo you could get debloated in the same way tren debloats you but you can control it easier to not rape your kidney

 

[mtbsmasher]

You can mix it with dut,avoiding the dihydronandrolone is good anyway

And you just need caber and some ai,maybe even some furo if you wanna be even leaner, with furo you could get debloated in the same way tren debloats you but you can control it easier to not rape your kidney

i thought blocking dhn with dut is bad cuz nandrolone is more androgenic than its convesion

 

[hej1377]

i thought blocking dhn with dut is bad cuz nandrolone is more androgenic than its convesion

It is but Nandrolone itself isnt very androgenic at all either so its not a problem,dhn is just super weak so its even less androgenic, the lower dht levels far overcompensates for the higher levels of nandrolone

 

[looksmaxlearner]

It is but Nandrolone itself isnt very androgenic at all either so its not a problem,dhn is just super weak so its even less androgenic, the lower dht levels far overcompensates for the higher levels of nandrolone

not trynna butt in this thread but you seem hella knowledgable is it possible to do 500mg Test E first cycle with encolmaphine for pct

 

[looksmaxlearner]

I got my blood done all my lipids are good

 

[hej1377]

not trynna butt in this thread but you seem hella knowledgable is it possible to do 500mg Test E first cycle with encolmaphine for pct

Yes 500 is pretty much the dose i would recommend and enclo is good,just have some dutasteride and take ai if needed

 

[looksmaxlearner]

Do i need to use hcg im 18 and im not trynna have kids anytime soon lmao. In terms of length is 20 weeks good and then start enclo. Yeah i have ai on deck in case

 

[hej1377]

Do i need to use hcg im 18 and im not trynna have kids anytime soon lmao. In terms of length is 20 weeks good and then start enclo. Yeah i have ai on deck in case

You fan use it if youre giga high inhib but he odds of going infertily from a 20 week cycle is very low

And if it were to happen you can just buy it after the cycle and pct when youve felt it out

 

[mtbsmasher]

It is but Nandrolone itself isnt very androgenic at all either so its not a problem,dhn is just super weak so its even less androgenic, the lower dht levels far overcompensates for the higher levels of nandrolone

hmm alr bet tbh ive been wanting to run deca cuz im bulking rn and i heard it helps with joints plus test only is lowk boring

 

[hej1377]

hmm alr bet tbh ive been wanting to run deca cuz im bulking rn and i heard it helps with joints plus test only is lowk boring

Deca is one of the best roids imo,if you do run it get some caber for the prolactin

 

[mtbsmasher]

Deca is one of the best roids imo,if you do run it get some caber for the prolactin

better than test for building muscle? also what else do u think is good for a bulk i ordered sum anadrol too

 

[looksmaxlearner]

You fan use it if youre giga high inhib but he odds of going infertily from a 20 week cycle is very low

And if it were to happen you can just buy it after the cycle and pct when youve felt it out

perfect thank you

 

[roadtochadlite1]

Not horrible but no way,

Tren should pretty rarely be used since so many organs are likely to get raped and its just so incredibly strong. Fucks your brain, hair,liver,heart, kidney everything and obviously you should have a very extensive support compound stack but toure still getting a lot of damage.

High dose deca is superior,slightly less muscle mass but you can pretty much totally avoid side effects

Test is to low

Anavar is low risk but it doesnt have a ton of reward,its fine but no way its part of the best cycle.

To replace it ligandrol is just way better for a bit of extra muscle and strength, if you really want to look dry and hard get primo,maybe even tbol

And igf-1 lr3 is just objectively superior to hgh

I agree with everything but igf-1 lr3 being superior to hgh, hgh and igf1 work synergistically and when your only pinning igf1 your only getting one side of the coin, I think a high dose hgh is better but obviously if you factor in price it may not be worth it for some people

 

[hej1377]

better than test for building muscle? also what else do u think is good for a bulk i ordered sum anadrol too

I mean overall maybe yes as its safer and builds more muscle but such a comparison is pretty hard and not to relevant as a test base should be used with it

Anadrol can be good as its pretty safe with furosemide compared to roids of similar strength like superdrol which absolutely rapes you and they are all very strong but have some serm like raloxefine with it since ai wont help with anadrol also gt some nac

It can be a bit of a pain in the ass to run as its a bit annoying to find just the right dose of furo but pretty much all steroids that strong are a pain in the ass in one way or another and anadrol wont give you permanent damage of any kind unless youre giga retarded,also get some rusovastin since both anadrol and test hurt lipids and prefferably some cialis and milk thirstle as well

And if you start feeling giga lethargic,get a lot of stomach pain often or get any jaundice go of immediately and wait a few weeks before you run it again, that means youve got some liver damage and its started to get kinda bad but its very rarely not reversible

 

[hej1377]

I agree with everything but igf-1 lr3 being superior to hgh, hgh and igf1 work synergistically and when your only pinning igf1 your only getting one side of the coin, I think a high dose hgh is better but obviously if you factor in price it may not be worth it for some people

I would dissagree with this is as i would say the reason why you do hgh is just to get igf. Hgh has some other direct effects on growth but they mostly impact organs and bone and cartilage, the more you take of it the less % can be used to make igf1 and therefore you get more of hgh direct effects.

A common place where this happens is bodybuilders as they run 10iu+ sometime over 20 even and they get stupid looking ears,jew noses and organ problems, obviously its not gonna get nearly as bad with low dosages for shorter times but why not avoid it all?

Since igf lr3 is also chemically altered from native igf in the way it doesnt need igfbp since it avoids breakdown as quickly it becomes less likely to go to those tissues that dont rely on free igf1 as much like cartilage and more likely to grow muscle instead which makes it practically more selective, its also just so astronomically more effective at stimulating the igf receptor and affect insulin sensitivity less so native igf is also less conducive to building muscle rather than LR3

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Not horrible but no way,

Tren should pretty rarely be used since so many organs are likely to get raped and its just so incredibly strong. Fucks your brain, hair,liver,heart, kidney everything and obviously you should have a very extensive support compound stack but toure still getting a lot of damage.

High dose deca is superior,slightly less muscle mass but you can pretty much totally avoid side effects

Deca is bloat city though. Been there done that

Test is to low

Anavar is low risk but it doesnt have a ton of reward,its fine but no way its part of the best cycle.

To replace it ligandrol is just way better for a bit of extra muscle and strength, if you really want to look dry and hard get primo,maybe even tbol

Anavar is overrated I agree. Liver safe, but trashes lipids. I do think sarms are an overall better option

And igf-1 lr3 is just objectively superior to hgh

Disagree. Lr3 is not something you wanna use
And really, hgh is not something a looksmaxxer should use. Consistently make people uglier and ages them

 

[hej1377]

Deca is bloat city though. Been there done that

Anavar is overrated I agree. Liver safe, but trashes lipids. I do think sarms are an overall better option

Disagree. Lr3 is not something you wanna use
And really, hgh is not something a looksmaxxer should use. Consistently make people uglier and ages them

Sure deca bloats you but a bloat isnt too bad in the grand scheme of things that can happen if you fuck up with roids,especially beginners, so a safe roid like deca can be very good, ana people can fuck up things that seem impossible to fuck up. it should also be very managable with caber ai and furo

And its just because its stronger, the mtor pathway is gonna age you no matter what and its inevitable if you also want muscle obviously. If you really wanna avoid it you could just run super low dosages so its somewhat equivalent to the levels of mtor activation that the igf from hgh would give you and still gt the other benefits of lr3

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Sure deca bloats you but a bloat isnt too bad in the grand scheme of things that can happen if you fuck up with roids,especially beginners, so a safe roid like deca can be very good, ana people can fuck up things that seem impossible to fuck up. it should also be very managable with caber ai and furo

You dont wanna be messing around with furosemide.
I actually tried to run 25mg hctz, but the bloat was way too strong

Not to mention the long ester which means if op gets sexual sides or doesnt like the way hes feeling on it,
strap down for another month

Not hating on deca though. Its a good roid. But tons of clueless mfs run in to gyno running it with test without estrogen control

And its just because its stronger, the mtor pathway is gonna age you no matter what and its inevitable if you also want muscle obviously.

Steroids target mtor more selectively than hgh or lr3.
So less cellular aging for the same amount of growth. And the level of growth you get from steroids alone saturated any appeal benefits from muscle

If you really wanna avoid it you could just run super low dosages so its somewhat equivalent to the levels of mtor activation that the igf from hgh would give you and still gt the other benefits of lr3

Igf has binding proteins which release at tissues of interest making it "selective" in a way.

LR3 doesnt bind to any of them so theres just a bunch of free floating around growing literally everything. Theres a reason everyone who can use it prefers incrilex
Theres also the fact that hgh has growth properties of its own, so youre missing out of that aswell.

 

[hej1377]

Steroids target mtor more selectively than hgh or lr3.
So less cellular aging for the same amount of growth. And the level of growth you get from steroids alone saturated any appeal benefits from muscle

I mean guess i could see that but atleast from whative seen the ageing doesnt seem to bad also considering most bodybuilder wjo use it midigate sides pretty shitty so many dont even have a glp1 or a protocol to minimize damage like imflammation or oxadative stress certain roids can cause so this would probably exaxterbate it he could use some support for his mitochondrias like SR

LR3 doesnt bind to any of them so theres just a bunch of free floating around growing literally everything. Theres a reason everyone who can use it prefers incrilex
Theres also the fact that hgh has growth properties of its own, so youre missing out of that aswell.

Well obviously thisbis why its so much more potent but even then you should be able to find an equivalent dose in terms of igfr activation and aince the dose will be so small it should be significantly cheaper

would dissagree with this is as i would say the reason why you do hgh is just to get igf. Hgh has some other direct effects on growth but they mostly impact organs and bone and cartilage, the more you take of it the less % can be used to make igf1 and therefore you get more of hgh direct effects.

A common place where this happens is bodybuilders as they run 10iu+ sometime over 20 even and they get stupid looking ears,jew noses and organ problems, obviously its not gonna get nearly as bad with low dosages for shorter times but why not avoid it all?

So i still dont even think incralex seems better but even if im wrong and that is the case and ive just missed something in my research, who the fuck is buying incralex in this economy