Best Lower Third Ever Or Too Ogre?

[PubertyMaxxer]

How does it compare to lachowskis softer lower third?

 

[Korea]

It exceeds his zygomatic width so no.

Drago has the best lower3rd.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

It exceeds his zygomatic width so no.

Drago has the best lower3rd.

It literally doesn't

 

[Deleted member 18418]

It exceeds his zygomatic width so no.

Drago has the best lower3rd.

Meeks

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Meeks

I can agree with this. Literally everything ( from frontal) is ideal

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Neck width to bigonial width ratio is not ideal (jaw too wide for the neck). His jaw is also asymmetrical, but if you closely you can see that his actual jaw is almost the same width as his bizygomatic distance (his jaw should be slightly more narrow).
Overall, his face is unideal. What matters is the whole. He has a 0.52 ES ratio which is way too high.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

It literally doesn't

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Neck width to bigonial width ratio is not ideal (jaw too wide for the neck). His jaw is also asymmetrical, but if you closely you can see that his actual jaw is almost the same width as his bizygomatic distance (his jaw should be slightly more narrow).
Overall, his face is unideal. What matters is the whole. He has a 0.52 ES ratio which is way too high.

Neck can be trained. Not a valid argument.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

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Neck can be trained. Not a valid argument.

It's about concrete measurements. His jaw width is too high relative to the average (and not only relative to his neck):

his IPD looks very high, considering that it can be calculated from pupil size. Add the fact that his jaw/face look wide, we can assume that his jaw width (as a concrete measurement) is too high compared to the norm.
His neck might be average/slightly thicker than average. The point is, his jaw is slightly too wide, but his neck is thick enough.
It's his jaw that needs to be fixed.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

It's about concrete measurements. His jaw width is too high relative to the average (and not only relative to his neck):

his IPD looks very high, considering that it can be calculated from pupil size. Add the fact that his jaw/face look wide, we can assume that his jaw width (as a concrete measurement) is too high compared to the norm.
His neck might be average/slightly thicker than average. The point is, his jaw is slightly too wide, but his neck is thick enough.
It's his jaw that needs to be fixed.

If he reduced bigonial he'd have to reduce chin width as well??

 

[Deleted member 14160]

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[Deleted member 5892]

Imo, left looks better than right. To me, the issue is his jaw width, not neck width. His neck is too thick in the right picture.
Compare him to Tyler Maher:

 

[Deleted member 5892]

If he reduced bigonial he'd have to reduce chin width as well??

Not necessarily. It depends on the person, but Tyler Maher for example has a wide chin relative to his jaw width (his chin width to bigonial ratio is even higher than the guy above)

 

[StrangerDanger]

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I think I settled the twink vs masc debate @Biggdink @germanlooks @forevergymcelling @StrangerDanger @Anstrum95 @Preston @AscendingHero @Thompsonz

does the iblame tag in their name derive from Barretts ig name or is it a common phenomenon

 

[forevergymcelling]

My poverty lower third needs to be reconstructed from scratch

 

[forevergymcelling]

does the iblame tag in their name derive from Barretts ig name or is it a common phenomenon

Iblame.gonzalo

 

[StrangerDanger]

Iblame.gonzalo

lifefuel for gonzalocels @Xangsane

 

[Xangsane]

lifefuel for gonzalocels @Xangsane

Tbh

What a slayer

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

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Imo, left looks better than right. To me, the issue is his jaw width, not neck width. His neck is too thick in the right picture.
Compare him to Tyler Maher:

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I prefer the right one tbh
But doesnt make a big difference

 

[Deleted member 5892]

I prefer the right one tbh
But doesnt make a big difference

We'd have to ask women about what they prefer, but I personally think that most of them would chose the left.
Even on the left pic, he has a jock neck and jaw width. On the right, it looks huge (to me at least)
But yeah, obviously the guy in OP is good looking and will attract women anyways. His jaw is just not ideal imo.

 

[NegativeNorwood]

That's a question that I've been doing to myself the last months. IMO, the closest to ideal would be this morph:

The Ideal Male (Morph)

used multiple male models to make this morph, peak aesthetics PSL 8 here are other variations:

looksmax.org

Notice the bigonial width, between 85-90% of the bizygomatic, the perfectly proportional and not too square chin and the ramus lenght, which is not too long but not too short, gonial angle should be around 125-130 degrees because it is correlated with chin and ramus height.
My avi (Chico + Vito Basso Faceapp morph) has very, very similar ratios in the jaw but is less dimorphic than the morph above:

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

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Imo, left looks better than right. To me, the issue is his jaw width, not neck width. His neck is too thick in the right picture.
Compare him to Tyler Maher:

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Looks much better. What do you estimate his bigonial to bizygomatic ratio to be in the after?

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Looks much better. What do you estimate his bigonial to bizygomatic ratio to be in the after?

I used a ruler to measure. 87% on the morph where I narrowed the jaw, 92% with the original untouched jaw.
I remember measuring tons of male models bigonial/bizygo ratios and most of them had 87%, so that's surprising

In my opinion, 85-90% might be the ideal in terms of averageness. But for a masculine look, a measurement in the upper end of this range is ideal (87-88%), while 92% might exceed that range and be too high. I need more data to be sure tho

 

[Deleted member 7580]

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He’s an ugly recessed twink

Twinks like gosha mog

 

[Deleted member 14160]

He’s an ugly recessed twink

Twinks like gosha mog

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