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what dosage of each is recommended? @Gargantuan
 
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I haven't found anything in regards to beta-carotene's effects on androgens, but you might wanna minimize your intake of lycopene.
 
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@BrahminBoss what dosages do u recommend?
 
Gwuhfazoid said:
Lycopene might decrease DHT (Dihydrotestosterone, important hormone for male health, IMO.)


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Lycopene inhibits IGF-I signal transduction and growth in normal prostate epithelial cells by decreasing DHT-modulated IGF-I production in co-cultured reactive stromal cells

Abstract. Prostate stromal and epithelial cell communication is important in prostate functioning and cancer development. Primary human stromal cells from
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I’m here to tell you lycopene works

I don’t have pics cos I swore off it until I’m human bf percentage but I can tell you in 4 days my face looked much redder . To appreciate this effect I had to see it in 4-6 pm or 7-9 am lighting in my mirror otherwise it was not visible . I have only used 30 mg Ed for a week so this is insane...
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Beta-carotene is very legit (with results)

I met up with my best friend last Saturday (I had not seen him since early March, mind you) and he asked me if I had been tanning due to my skin looking significantly more reddish/orange (I used to be kinda pale tbh). However, I never did, it was purely down to the fact that I've been taking...
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yes try it for a month with a slight tan and youll already notice changes basically you want to get this colouring and are you french?

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BrahminBoss said:
yes try it for a month with a slight tan and youll already notice changes basically you want to get this colouring and are you french?

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would taking msm @ 4400mg be counter intuitive beacuse i currently take it and heard it may cause skin whitening (this may only be in megadoes tho)

can i continue the msm or should i stop it when taking the beat c and lycopene
 
chadisbeingmade said:
would taking msm @ 4400mg be counter intuitive beacuse i currently take it and heard it may cause skin whitening (this may only be in megadoes tho)

can i continue the msm or should i stop it when taking the beat c and lycopene
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No even 3 g causes skin lightening take 1.5 g instead
 
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BrahminBoss said:
No even 3 g causes skin lightening take 1.5 g instead
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i will reduce.
what would you recommend to do if i dont have no sun to get light tan?
 
How many a day?
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yes try it for a month with a slight tan and youll already notice changes basically you want to get this colouring and are you frenxh
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12PSLsubhuman said:
How many a day?
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around 10 mg with lycopene. idk about bc you have to experiment but start with a lower dose for bc as it is somewhat hypometabolic.
 
Pendejo said:
Why? Is 7.5mg good dose?
Also thoughts on astaxanthin?
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high beta carotene seems to inhibit thyroid function. I would just get enough to get a yellow tint. If your thyroid hormones arent optimal and you dont have enough b12 you accumalate carotene and get beta carotenemia- detectable when your skin begins to turn yellow like with jaundice. lycopene is much much safer it has some negative effects on dht but nothing big. Redness is more attractive to women than yellow undertones anyway (many many studies on this). If youre really serious you can also take aspirin which improves hypoxia symptoms and increases bloodflow to the local tissue thereby improving dull skin for eg. and there are a lot more carotenoids responsible for pigment than just bc lycopene and astaxanthin. the fruits rich in them are strawberries raspberries and dragonfruit. you can drink a shake of this everyday for two months and you probably dont even need to take supplements. I dont think delon ever took isolated carotenoid supps he was probably just asked to eat a diet rich in fruits and some vegetables. i suggest eating a raw carrot a day( also insanely good for the gut) and some sweet potatoes once in a while for the yellow tint.

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Beta-Carotene is the main carotenoid found in plants and is more often responsible for this condition.[4] Carotenemia is often first encountered by primary care providers. Although benign, this condition is often confused with jaundice, leading to unnecessary investigations.

The condition of carotenemia is benign; however, it can lead to a wrong diagnosis of jaundice. Orangeness may also bear a significant symbolic significance.[5] Carotinemia was originally observed as xanthosis diabetica by von Noorden in 1904, who noted it to be more prominent on the palms and soles and in the nasolabial folds"

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BrahminBoss said:
high beta carotene seems to inhibit thyroid function. I would just get enough to get a yellow tint. If your thyroid hormones arent optimal and you dont have enough b12 you accumalate carotene and get beta carotenemia- detectable when your skin begins to turn yellow like with jaundice. lycopene is much much safer it has some negative effects on dht but nothing big. Redness is more attractive to women than yellow undertones anyway (many many studies on this). If youre really serious you can also take aspirin which improves hypoxia symptoms and increases bloodflow to the local tissue thereby improving dull skin for eg. and there are a lot more carotenoids responsible for pigment than just bc lycopene and astaxanthin. the fruits rich in them are strawberries raspberries and dragonfruit. you can drink a shake of this everyday for two months and you probably dont even need to take supplements. I dont think delon ever took isolated carotenoid supps he was probably just asked to eat a diet rich in fruits and some vegetables. i suggest eating a raw carrot a day( also insanely good for the gut) and some sweet potatoes once in a while for the yellow tint.

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Beta-Carotene is the main carotenoid found in plants and is more often responsible for this condition.[4] Carotenemia is often first encountered by primary care providers. Although benign, this condition is often confused with jaundice, leading to unnecessary investigations.

The condition of carotenemia is benign; however, it can lead to a wrong diagnosis of jaundice. Orangeness may also bear a significant symbolic significance.[5] Carotinemia was originally observed as xanthosis diabetica by von Noorden in 1904, who noted it to be more prominent on the palms and soles and in the nasolabial folds"

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what are the benefits of

astaxanthin on skintone?​

 
chadisbeingmade said:
what are the benefits of

astaxanthin on skintone?​

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just another carotenoid probably responsible for pinkish hue. MSM does the same but it may be a different shade of pink as msm works by increasing the proportion of pheomelanint to eumelanin

"Astaxanthin is a carotenoid widely used in salmonid and crustacean aquaculture to provide the pink color characteristic of that species. This application has been well documented for over two decades and is currently the major market driver for the pigment. Additionally, astaxanthin also plays a key role as an intermediary in reproductive processes. Synthetic astaxanthin dominates the world market but recent interest in natural sources of the pigment has increased substantially. Common sources of natural astaxanthin are the green algae Haematococcus pluvialis, the red yeast, Phaffia rhodozyma, as well as crustacean byproducts. Astaxanthin possesses an unusual antioxidant activity which has caused a surge in the nutraceutical market for the encapsulated product. Also, health benefits such as cardiovascular disease prevention, immune system boosting, bioactivity against Helycobacter pylori, and cataract prevention, have been associated with astaxanthin consumption. Research on the health benefits of astaxanthin is very recent and has mostly been performed in vitro or at the pre-clinical level with humans. This paper reviews the current available evidence regarding astaxanthin chemistry and its potential beneficial effects in humans."
 
BrahminBoss said:
just another carotenoid probably responsible for pinkish hue. MSM does the same but it may be a different shade of pink as msm works by increasing the proportion of pheomelanint to eumelanin

"Astaxanthin is a carotenoid widely used in salmonid and crustacean aquaculture to provide the pink color characteristic of that species. This application has been well documented for over two decades and is currently the major market driver for the pigment. Additionally, astaxanthin also plays a key role as an intermediary in reproductive processes. Synthetic astaxanthin dominates the world market but recent interest in natural sources of the pigment has increased substantially. Common sources of natural astaxanthin are the green algae Haematococcus pluvialis, the red yeast, Phaffia rhodozyma, as well as crustacean byproducts. Astaxanthin possesses an unusual antioxidant activity which has caused a surge in the nutraceutical market for the encapsulated product. Also, health benefits such as cardiovascular disease prevention, immune system boosting, bioactivity against Helycobacter pylori, and cataract prevention, have been associated with astaxanthin consumption. Research on the health benefits of astaxanthin is very recent and has mostly been performed in vitro or at the pre-clinical level with humans. This paper reviews the current available evidence regarding astaxanthin chemistry and its potential beneficial effects in humans."
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1 large carrot (25000iu beta carotene)
20-30mg lycopene
1700mg MSM
4mg Astaxanthin

would give mogger skin tone with good red undertones?
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
1 large carrot (25000iu beta carotene)
20-30mg lycopene
1700mg MSM
4mg Astaxanthin

would give mogger skin tone with good red undertones?
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also take raspberry strawberry dragon fruit mixed shake every day or every other day
 
chadisbeingmade said:
what’s the benefits in doing this?
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you get other carotenoids responsible for pigment in face. science has only isolated a few what we do know is these fruits contain 100s of these pigment inducing carotenoids that havent been delineated yet.
 
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BrahminBoss said:
you get other carotenoids responsible for pigment in face. science has only isolated a few what we do know is these fruits contain 100s of these pigment inducing carotenoids that havent been delineated yet.
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i’ll do this.

also would 50mg lycopene be too much for red undertones.

i managed to find it for dirt cheap compared to the lower doses for some reason
 
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chadisbeingmade said:
i’ll do this.

also would 50mg lycopene be too much for red undertones.

i managed to find it for dirt cheap compared to the lower doses for some reason
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you can break the tablet if you want. i do it with most of my supplements.
 
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Carrots and tomato paste are the best source of these. BrahminBoss is correct though, i dont think these carotenoids are healthy in the doses that cause skin pigment changes. Eating a diet with them is what you wnt to do rather than supplement. The best way to get a better skin tone is just to be healthy and eat healthy and be out in the sun. Astaxanthin is also a potent DHT blocker based off 1 study (it was somewhat dubious though)
 
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. Astaxanthin is also a potent DHT blocker based off 1 study (it was somewhat dubious though)
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i’ve seen that 4mg won’t decrease dht
 
BrahminBoss said:
and there are a lot more carotenoids responsible for pigment than just bc lycopene and astaxanthin. the fruits rich in them are strawberries raspberries and dragonfruit. you can drink a shake of this everyday for two months and you probably dont even need to take supplements. I dont think delon ever took isolated carotenoid supps he was probably just asked to eat a diet rich in fruits and some vegetables. i suggest eating a raw carrot a day( also insanely good for the gut) and some sweet potatoes once in a while for the yellow tint.
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Thanks bro will consider it, currently I only have tomatoes tbh, are they good too as source of lycopene?

And if I were to supplement do I need to split the dosage between meals and take if after like it says here btw? Does this apply to lycopene supplements too?

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Split your beta-carotene and Astaxanthin over meals. Background inside.

So I just started taking both beta-carotene and Astaxanthin today. I tried to find some information on how to take these things. You probably all already know that carotenoids should be taken with fatty meals. What you don't know is what researchers found out in 1993, when they analyzed plasma...
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Pendejo said:
Thanks bro will consider it, currently I only have tomatoes tbh, are they good too as source of lycopene?

And if I were to supplement do I need to split the dosage between meals and take if after like it says here btw? Does this apply to lycopene supplements too?

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Split your beta-carotene and Astaxanthin over meals. Background inside.

So I just started taking both beta-carotene and Astaxanthin today. I tried to find some information on how to take these things. You probably all already know that carotenoids should be taken with fatty meals. What you don't know is what researchers found out in 1993, when they analyzed plasma...
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want to know this also.
but i don’t think we have to split dose.
i think we have to take after meal since it’s fat soluble, at least lycopene is
 
Does lycopene work better than beta-carotene?
 
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Pendejo said:
Thanks bro will consider it, currently I only have tomatoes tbh, are they good too as source of lycopene?

And if I were to supplement do I need to split the dosage between meals and take if after like it says here btw? Does this apply to lycopene supplements too?

web.archive.org

Split your beta-carotene and Astaxanthin over meals. Background inside.

So I just started taking both beta-carotene and Astaxanthin today. I tried to find some information on how to take these things. You probably all already know that carotenoids should be taken with fatty meals. What you don't know is what researchers found out in 1993, when they analyzed plasma...
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@BrahminBoss so?
 
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Pendejo said:
@BrahminBoss so?
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Same principle should apply as lycopene is also fat soluble antioxidant. You don’t need the krill oil just take it w some coconut oil if you want.
 
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