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This is not a racebait thread. I have a few interesting facts to share to those who believe in JBW and particularly those who support National Socialist Germany. If you have any information to the contrary feel free to share it.
Fact 1: The country with the highest frequency of blonde hair and blue eyes is coincidentally the same country with the most mongoloid/East Eurasian genetics in Europe.
Don't believe me? A quick google search will show it for yourself.
Now let us look at the genetic map of mongoloid genetics in Europe.
The map on the left shows the frequency of ancient mongoloid-related genetics on the whole. The map on the right shows the frequency of East Asian-specific genetics in Europe directly related to sharing alleles with East and Southeast Asian populations you see today.
As the left map shows, the mongoloid genetics reaches an average of 10-12% in modern Finland, and is almost as high in Northern Norwegians and Finns as it is in Turks.
This, coupled with the fact that many white nationalists do not consider Turks and Russians to be white or even European, would mean that the country with the most blonde hair and blue eyes in the world is the same one with the most mongoloid genetics in Europe. Mind blown.
YhgN is the dominant paternal haplogroup in Finland the Northern regions of Norway and Sweden, and shared a common ancestor in what is modern-day China.
Fact 2: Attila the Hun appears in many Germanic and Icelandic texts, sometimes even portrayed as a noble and generous ally. Many aspects of Germanic paganism such as shamanism to have been influenced by the Hunnic invasions.
Firstly, it is important to understand the Wotan archetype and how it is connected to the rise of National Socialist Germany. What is the Wotan archetype?
2.1. The Swiss psychologist Carl Gustav Jung (1875–1961) claims in his 1936 essay “Wotan” that an “archetype” has seized the German people, instigating the Nazi maelstrom in Germany. In this short but pregnant twelve-page document, published in the March 1936 issue of the Neue Schweizer Rundschau, Jung plays the doctor to his “patient,” Germany, interpreting the ancient Germanic high god Wotan as an autonomous collective psychological factor, yet one limited to the Germanic people and especially the Germans.1 Deeply embedded in the recesses of the German psyche, this racial2 archetype has lain dormant since the conversion to Christianity, yet now this collective psychic force has burst out of its constraints to grip (ergreifen) the German people.
Jung used the history of Wotan to explain the rise of NS Germany.
Here is one particularly significant quote I found in Jung's Wotan essay:
2.2. “The disturber of the peace is a wind that blows into Europe from Asia’s vastness, sweeping in on a wide front from the Thrace to the Baltic, scattering the nations before it like dry leaves, or inspiring thoughts that shake the world to its foundations. It is an elemental Dionysus breaking into the Apollonian order. The rouser of this tempest is named Wotan, and we can learn a great deal about him from the political confusion and spiritual upheaval he has caused throughout history”.
Many historians have been discussing the same thing and connecting Wotan with Attila the Hun:
"It is my hypothesis that the single most transformative component in post-Roman Europe was the Huns, an Asiatic steppe-people who appeared in the Black Sea region in the late fourth century and for more than half a century acted as a forceful, feared, and above all alien military and political power that paralysed most of Europe. To contemplate these dramatic historical changes, I propose that the well-known king of the Aesir gods in the North (Odin) emerged from the historical person Attila, the horrifying king of the Huns (who died in ad 453). Historical sources, epic poetry, iconography and animal art as well as the amount of Roman gold all point to the Huns not as the single historical cause but as the catalyst in the transformation of Barbarian Europe into the Early Middle Ages. In Scandinavia it led to the formation of a new pagan cosmological world, which opposed the Christian world and lasted until the end of the Viking Period." ---Iron Age Myth and Materiality Lotte Hedeager p.44
2.3. "Just as at the beginning of time, when Odin led his people from Troy into Northern Europe,139 so Hitler was now reiterating the actions of his ancestral god by producing yet another movement of the Volk. Yet rather than the Germans migrating elsewhere, the movement was taking place in the same location, inside the collective German psyche. Simultaneously, thousands of people were fleeing into exile. Jung creates a portrait of a people in mystical union with their god and their leader, claiming their space, a process presumably necessary if the Germans as a people are to individuate." ---Wotan and the archetypal Ergriffenheit: Mystical union, national spiritual rebirth and culture-creating capacity in C. G. Jung's Wotan essay p.13
2.4. "[1253] "While it was the patient's own mother country that produced the great masters of the monstrous, Hieronymus Bosch and others, who opened the flood-gates of creative fantasy, the pictures in this book show us imaginative activity unleashed in another form: the Indomalaysian phantasmagoria of pullulating vegetation and of fear-haunted, stifling tropical nights. Environment and inner disposition conspired to produce this series of pictures which give expression to an infantile-archaic fear. Partly it is the fear of a child who, deprived of her parents, is defencelessly exposed to the unconscious and its menacing, phantasmal figures; partly the fear of a European who can find no other attitude to everything that the East conjures up in her save that of rejection and repression. Because the European does not know his own unconscious, he does not understand the East and projects into it everything he fears and despises in himself. [1254] For a sensitive child it is a veritable catastrophe to be removed from her parents and sent to Europe after the unconscious influence of the Oriental world had moulded her relation to the instincts, and then, at the critical period of puberty, to be transported back to the East, when this development had been interrupted by Western education and crippled by neglect." Carl Jung CW 18 1253-1254
Remember, when Jung was referring to the "East", he was primarily referring to India, Tibet, and China. But, even then, as this link elaborates, "Indians were repeatedly portrayed as somewhat primitive and childish, while the Chinese person is apparently more cultivated. Indians have left the thinking function underdeveloped, while the Chinese have succeeded in recognizing this. Indians lack personality, personality is Tao". Clearly, Jung thought that the Chinese were in many ways superior to that of Indians. He respected East Asians more, and this is relevant to the previous quote.
Fact 3: High cheekbones are East Asian traits. East Asians share many morphological and phenotypic similarities to Nordic peoples.
East asian facial structure “High cheekbones and a distinct mandibular contour characterise the appearance of East Asian persons, especially those of Korean and Japanese descent...However, because of the more delicate topography of the typical Asian face**, zygomas and mandibular angles that are overly prominent upset the balance, rendering the face overly flat, wide, and square**.”
Now let's look at the physical similarities:
"The Mongolian race includes most Asiatics, the Finnish tribes, the Lapps and the Eskimo; it has an almost square skull (exceedingly brachycephalic), flat nose, flat projecting malar bone, somewhat broad alveolar arch, and projecting chin. The American race has a higher forehead, highly developed superciliary arch, deeply sunken bridge of the nose, cheek-bones strongly projecting sidewards, and high, broad, and strong lower jaw."Mongoloid Crania – Bass 1995:91-92
"Jutting lower face (lower jaw, lower lip) The Mongoloid lower face, lower jaw, and lower lip, like those of the Negroid, jut out farther than those of the Caucasian.
Also like the Negroid, the lower jaw is often wider and more muscular than that of the Caucasian. The heaviest jaws and greatest bigonial diameters are found in the northwestern European borderlands, and in eastern Europe, where mongoloid influence is strong". Bite force relation to face shape and ethnic origins face variations
"Most commonly seen in people of Asian or Eastern European descent, the coveted button nose features a small nasal bridge and upwardly tilted tip. This feminine, delicate nose shape is another favorite among rhinoplasty patients" Exploring Different Types of Nose Shapes.
"The button nose is quite charming and is prominent in people with small faces or who are Asian or European. This type of nose is long and tapered and has a pointy tip. The bridge is lower than the tip, and the nostrils are usually flared. This is seen most commonly in people with Asian ancestry."A Simple Guide to the Different Types of Nose Shapes.
"Button Nose: This type of nose is often seen in Asian and Scandinavian populations."Different Types of Noses & Nose Shapes | Rhinoplasty.
What a German woman on Quora had to say about German facial features: Susanne Richter's answer to How can you tell the difference between German, British, and French people by their appearance? - Quora
Fact 4: Remember, in addition to quotes in point 2, there is more evidence to suggest that National Socialist Germany was woven in Germanic paganism, which both inherently and structurally opposed Christianity in many ways:
4.1. "The fragmentation of the German psyche was caused initially by a foreign religion, Christianity, which had crippled the instincts of the Germanic barbarian while splitting its psyche in two, civilizing one half while repressing the other." Wotan and the archetypal Ergriffenheit: ---Mystical union, national spiritual rebirth and culture-creating capacity in C. G. Jung's Wotan essay -- Carrie B. Dohe p347
4.2. "Himmler began developing the notion of a Germanic religion and wanted SS members to leave the church. In early 1936, Heydrich left the Catholic Church in favour of the Gottglaubig movement" --Steigmann-Gall 2003, p. 219.
4.3. "We shall not rest until we have rooted out Christianity" --- Heinrich Himmler
Christianity and Islam were some of the most infamous religions to come out of the Middle East. As the above quotes show, the very National Socialists whom many of you users always romanticise were both psychically and structurally opposed to Christianity, and studied Asian religions instead. In fact, Carl Jung had a strong pull toward Chinese philosophy and religion. Regarding the latter, it is no question that Islam has many genocidal, violent verses in the Quran that promotes violence against anyone non-Muslim. This is also the same religion responsible for Muslim grooming gangs causing the exploitation of young white British girls in the UK.
In this sense the German NS's were in many ways more East Asian than they were Middle Eastern, and, as aforementioned before, there is plenty of evidence for it. They even planned to get rid of an entire racial stock most notably to have originated in the Middle East, the Jews.
Fact 5: Middle Easterners are genetically close to Jews in the gene pool, and thus share many phenotypic traits.
Remember, Teutonic race scientists saw a dichotomy in which the Semitic physiognomy was deemed undesirable and opposed to the Teutonic.
Think about it: when you look at these historical propaganda pamphlets showing the classic Jewish antagonist (right picture above)
Ask yourself: where did the racial stock of this obese man originate? Did it originate from East Asia? No, East Asians typically do not have high noses nor much facial hair. Did it come from sub-Saharan Africa? No. Did it originate in Northern Europe? Probably not.
It originated in the Middle East. And you will find countless Middle Eastern people who look like that.
"The Aquiline Nose is often associated with individuals of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern descent" From Button to Roman: An Exploration of Ethnic Nose Shapes
"The Hook nose has a curved bridge, with the tip of the nose pointing downwards toward the ground. It is often found among Middle Eastern populations" Rhinoplasty
"West Asians are typically known for their low cheekbones." High vs. Low Cheekbones: How to Tell the Difference
The fact that this phenotype is common in MENA populations is an argument against the assertion that "since Indo-European cultures such as the Yamnaya and Srubnaya historically conquered and settled in Central Asian and Middle Eastern areas, they left their genetic imprint there, which is one reason why Europeans should mix with them instead (due to shared cultural and genetic affinity)". The real truth is that just one drop of YhgJ-origin Semitic blood can change entire European gene pools and create something completely different, which is exactly what happened to create Ashkenazi Jews and Northern Indians. This is in contrast to Finns and Scandinavians, who are a result of Nordics mixing with Siberian Sami people and end up looking attractive most of the time.
This theory could mean that the very rise of Hitler's Germany was actually a crypto-resurrection of Hunnic rule! As crazy as it sounds, with ironies including Himmler demonizing Russians using the terms "Huns and Magyars", there is, as aforementioned above, plenty of psychological and historical evidence for this theory.
Just look at how distinctly mongoloid German citizens, celebrity figures and leaders looked like;
What Europeans mixing with East Asians gives you:
Fact 1: The country with the highest frequency of blonde hair and blue eyes is coincidentally the same country with the most mongoloid/East Eurasian genetics in Europe.
Don't believe me? A quick google search will show it for yourself.
Now let us look at the genetic map of mongoloid genetics in Europe.
The map on the left shows the frequency of ancient mongoloid-related genetics on the whole. The map on the right shows the frequency of East Asian-specific genetics in Europe directly related to sharing alleles with East and Southeast Asian populations you see today.
As the left map shows, the mongoloid genetics reaches an average of 10-12% in modern Finland, and is almost as high in Northern Norwegians and Finns as it is in Turks.
This, coupled with the fact that many white nationalists do not consider Turks and Russians to be white or even European, would mean that the country with the most blonde hair and blue eyes in the world is the same one with the most mongoloid genetics in Europe. Mind blown.
YhgN is the dominant paternal haplogroup in Finland the Northern regions of Norway and Sweden, and shared a common ancestor in what is modern-day China.
Fact 2: Attila the Hun appears in many Germanic and Icelandic texts, sometimes even portrayed as a noble and generous ally. Many aspects of Germanic paganism such as shamanism to have been influenced by the Hunnic invasions.
Firstly, it is important to understand the Wotan archetype and how it is connected to the rise of National Socialist Germany. What is the Wotan archetype?
2.1. The Swiss psychologist Carl Gustav Jung (1875–1961) claims in his 1936 essay “Wotan” that an “archetype” has seized the German people, instigating the Nazi maelstrom in Germany. In this short but pregnant twelve-page document, published in the March 1936 issue of the Neue Schweizer Rundschau, Jung plays the doctor to his “patient,” Germany, interpreting the ancient Germanic high god Wotan as an autonomous collective psychological factor, yet one limited to the Germanic people and especially the Germans.1 Deeply embedded in the recesses of the German psyche, this racial2 archetype has lain dormant since the conversion to Christianity, yet now this collective psychic force has burst out of its constraints to grip (ergreifen) the German people.
Jung used the history of Wotan to explain the rise of NS Germany.
Here is one particularly significant quote I found in Jung's Wotan essay:
2.2. “The disturber of the peace is a wind that blows into Europe from Asia’s vastness, sweeping in on a wide front from the Thrace to the Baltic, scattering the nations before it like dry leaves, or inspiring thoughts that shake the world to its foundations. It is an elemental Dionysus breaking into the Apollonian order. The rouser of this tempest is named Wotan, and we can learn a great deal about him from the political confusion and spiritual upheaval he has caused throughout history”.
Many historians have been discussing the same thing and connecting Wotan with Attila the Hun:
"It is my hypothesis that the single most transformative component in post-Roman Europe was the Huns, an Asiatic steppe-people who appeared in the Black Sea region in the late fourth century and for more than half a century acted as a forceful, feared, and above all alien military and political power that paralysed most of Europe. To contemplate these dramatic historical changes, I propose that the well-known king of the Aesir gods in the North (Odin) emerged from the historical person Attila, the horrifying king of the Huns (who died in ad 453). Historical sources, epic poetry, iconography and animal art as well as the amount of Roman gold all point to the Huns not as the single historical cause but as the catalyst in the transformation of Barbarian Europe into the Early Middle Ages. In Scandinavia it led to the formation of a new pagan cosmological world, which opposed the Christian world and lasted until the end of the Viking Period." ---Iron Age Myth and Materiality Lotte Hedeager p.44
2.3. "Just as at the beginning of time, when Odin led his people from Troy into Northern Europe,139 so Hitler was now reiterating the actions of his ancestral god by producing yet another movement of the Volk. Yet rather than the Germans migrating elsewhere, the movement was taking place in the same location, inside the collective German psyche. Simultaneously, thousands of people were fleeing into exile. Jung creates a portrait of a people in mystical union with their god and their leader, claiming their space, a process presumably necessary if the Germans as a people are to individuate." ---Wotan and the archetypal Ergriffenheit: Mystical union, national spiritual rebirth and culture-creating capacity in C. G. Jung's Wotan essay p.13
2.4. "[1253] "While it was the patient's own mother country that produced the great masters of the monstrous, Hieronymus Bosch and others, who opened the flood-gates of creative fantasy, the pictures in this book show us imaginative activity unleashed in another form: the Indomalaysian phantasmagoria of pullulating vegetation and of fear-haunted, stifling tropical nights. Environment and inner disposition conspired to produce this series of pictures which give expression to an infantile-archaic fear. Partly it is the fear of a child who, deprived of her parents, is defencelessly exposed to the unconscious and its menacing, phantasmal figures; partly the fear of a European who can find no other attitude to everything that the East conjures up in her save that of rejection and repression. Because the European does not know his own unconscious, he does not understand the East and projects into it everything he fears and despises in himself. [1254] For a sensitive child it is a veritable catastrophe to be removed from her parents and sent to Europe after the unconscious influence of the Oriental world had moulded her relation to the instincts, and then, at the critical period of puberty, to be transported back to the East, when this development had been interrupted by Western education and crippled by neglect." Carl Jung CW 18 1253-1254
Remember, when Jung was referring to the "East", he was primarily referring to India, Tibet, and China. But, even then, as this link elaborates, "Indians were repeatedly portrayed as somewhat primitive and childish, while the Chinese person is apparently more cultivated. Indians have left the thinking function underdeveloped, while the Chinese have succeeded in recognizing this. Indians lack personality, personality is Tao". Clearly, Jung thought that the Chinese were in many ways superior to that of Indians. He respected East Asians more, and this is relevant to the previous quote.
Fact 3: High cheekbones are East Asian traits. East Asians share many morphological and phenotypic similarities to Nordic peoples.
East asian facial structure “High cheekbones and a distinct mandibular contour characterise the appearance of East Asian persons, especially those of Korean and Japanese descent...However, because of the more delicate topography of the typical Asian face**, zygomas and mandibular angles that are overly prominent upset the balance, rendering the face overly flat, wide, and square**.”
Now let's look at the physical similarities:
"The Mongolian race includes most Asiatics, the Finnish tribes, the Lapps and the Eskimo; it has an almost square skull (exceedingly brachycephalic), flat nose, flat projecting malar bone, somewhat broad alveolar arch, and projecting chin. The American race has a higher forehead, highly developed superciliary arch, deeply sunken bridge of the nose, cheek-bones strongly projecting sidewards, and high, broad, and strong lower jaw."Mongoloid Crania – Bass 1995:91-92
"Jutting lower face (lower jaw, lower lip) The Mongoloid lower face, lower jaw, and lower lip, like those of the Negroid, jut out farther than those of the Caucasian.
Also like the Negroid, the lower jaw is often wider and more muscular than that of the Caucasian. The heaviest jaws and greatest bigonial diameters are found in the northwestern European borderlands, and in eastern Europe, where mongoloid influence is strong". Bite force relation to face shape and ethnic origins face variations
"Most commonly seen in people of Asian or Eastern European descent, the coveted button nose features a small nasal bridge and upwardly tilted tip. This feminine, delicate nose shape is another favorite among rhinoplasty patients" Exploring Different Types of Nose Shapes.
"The button nose is quite charming and is prominent in people with small faces or who are Asian or European. This type of nose is long and tapered and has a pointy tip. The bridge is lower than the tip, and the nostrils are usually flared. This is seen most commonly in people with Asian ancestry."A Simple Guide to the Different Types of Nose Shapes.
"Button Nose: This type of nose is often seen in Asian and Scandinavian populations."Different Types of Noses & Nose Shapes | Rhinoplasty.
What a German woman on Quora had to say about German facial features: Susanne Richter's answer to How can you tell the difference between German, British, and French people by their appearance? - Quora
Fact 4: Remember, in addition to quotes in point 2, there is more evidence to suggest that National Socialist Germany was woven in Germanic paganism, which both inherently and structurally opposed Christianity in many ways:
4.1. "The fragmentation of the German psyche was caused initially by a foreign religion, Christianity, which had crippled the instincts of the Germanic barbarian while splitting its psyche in two, civilizing one half while repressing the other." Wotan and the archetypal Ergriffenheit: ---Mystical union, national spiritual rebirth and culture-creating capacity in C. G. Jung's Wotan essay -- Carrie B. Dohe p347
4.2. "Himmler began developing the notion of a Germanic religion and wanted SS members to leave the church. In early 1936, Heydrich left the Catholic Church in favour of the Gottglaubig movement" --Steigmann-Gall 2003, p. 219.
4.3. "We shall not rest until we have rooted out Christianity" --- Heinrich Himmler
Christianity and Islam were some of the most infamous religions to come out of the Middle East. As the above quotes show, the very National Socialists whom many of you users always romanticise were both psychically and structurally opposed to Christianity, and studied Asian religions instead. In fact, Carl Jung had a strong pull toward Chinese philosophy and religion. Regarding the latter, it is no question that Islam has many genocidal, violent verses in the Quran that promotes violence against anyone non-Muslim. This is also the same religion responsible for Muslim grooming gangs causing the exploitation of young white British girls in the UK.
In this sense the German NS's were in many ways more East Asian than they were Middle Eastern, and, as aforementioned before, there is plenty of evidence for it. They even planned to get rid of an entire racial stock most notably to have originated in the Middle East, the Jews.
Fact 5: Middle Easterners are genetically close to Jews in the gene pool, and thus share many phenotypic traits.
Remember, Teutonic race scientists saw a dichotomy in which the Semitic physiognomy was deemed undesirable and opposed to the Teutonic.
Think about it: when you look at these historical propaganda pamphlets showing the classic Jewish antagonist (right picture above)
Ask yourself: where did the racial stock of this obese man originate? Did it originate from East Asia? No, East Asians typically do not have high noses nor much facial hair. Did it come from sub-Saharan Africa? No. Did it originate in Northern Europe? Probably not.
It originated in the Middle East. And you will find countless Middle Eastern people who look like that.
"The Aquiline Nose is often associated with individuals of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern descent" From Button to Roman: An Exploration of Ethnic Nose Shapes
"The Hook nose has a curved bridge, with the tip of the nose pointing downwards toward the ground. It is often found among Middle Eastern populations" Rhinoplasty
"West Asians are typically known for their low cheekbones." High vs. Low Cheekbones: How to Tell the Difference
The fact that this phenotype is common in MENA populations is an argument against the assertion that "since Indo-European cultures such as the Yamnaya and Srubnaya historically conquered and settled in Central Asian and Middle Eastern areas, they left their genetic imprint there, which is one reason why Europeans should mix with them instead (due to shared cultural and genetic affinity)". The real truth is that just one drop of YhgJ-origin Semitic blood can change entire European gene pools and create something completely different, which is exactly what happened to create Ashkenazi Jews and Northern Indians. This is in contrast to Finns and Scandinavians, who are a result of Nordics mixing with Siberian Sami people and end up looking attractive most of the time.
This theory could mean that the very rise of Hitler's Germany was actually a crypto-resurrection of Hunnic rule! As crazy as it sounds, with ironies including Himmler demonizing Russians using the terms "Huns and Magyars", there is, as aforementioned above, plenty of psychological and historical evidence for this theory.
Just look at how distinctly mongoloid German citizens, celebrity figures and leaders looked like;
What Europeans mixing with East Asians gives you:
