BIMAX 3 WEEKS POST OP

[normie_joe]

Ascended from birdcel subhuman. Who was your surgeon jfl

Godhand himself

 

[acertyxx_]

If you want to get a 10mm lefort bro, be my guest.

"Projected maxilla is better than a misaligned bite"

This is like peak .org austimo babble.

"Looking like a monkey is better than being able to eat food properly"

I'll pass on that offer, but you are free to do as you please.

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there is a reason why surgeons don't do insane leforts, isn't because they're bluepilled

 

[ThisCat]

If you want to get a 10mm lefort bro, be my guest.

"Projected maxilla is better than a misaligned bite"

This is like peak .org austimo babble.

"Looking like a monkey is better than being able to eat food properly"

I'll pass on that offer, but you are free to do as you please.

High IQ post

 

[acertyxx_]

Godhand himself

I have no idea who this nigga is but I know when he touches a scalpel he makes niggas into HTNs

 

[Snicket]

If you want to get a 10mm lefort bro, be my guest.

"Projected maxilla is better than a misaligned bite"

This is like peak .org austimo babble.

"Looking like a monkey is better than being able to eat food properly"

I'll pass on that offer, but you are free to do as you please.

Ignore this shit. LF1 can only advance the upper jaw so much without the rest of the maxilla looking left behind.

To advocate maximal advancements is to misunderstand this surgery and its limitations.

 

[esoterik]

Do you want me to live in a zoo exhibit bro?

Any more lefort advancement and I'll be living with these guys

My SNA is 85.5 when the average person has it at 82. I'm already way past what's standard.

Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

couldnt you just get ccw then get setback? also results look fine anyway

 

[ThisCat]

I have no idea who this nigga is but I know when he touches a scalpel he makes niggas into HTNs

HIs name is jabdul lemar yasiff yawerua Jr. and he the best surgeon in turkey

 

[rrm_ss2]

If you want to get a 10mm lefort bro, be my guest.

"Projected maxilla is better than a misaligned bite"

This is like peak .org austimo babble.

"Looking like a monkey is better than being able to eat food properly"

I'll pass on that offer, but you are free to do as you please.

jfl at you thinking a projected maxilla will make you look like a monkey and you only see problems from a misaligned bite if its a major issue not just slightly misaligned. and the surgeons did a pretty good job tricking you into thinking a slightly misaligned bite will make you look worse

 

[ThisCat]

jfl at you thinking a projected maxilla will make you look like a monkey and you only see problems from a misaligned bite if its a major issue not just slightly misaligned. and the surgeons did a pretty good job tricking you into thinking a slightly misaligned bite will make you look worse

You have to be trolling

 

[greycel]

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So you can only tag max 6 I believe it’s still a thing

Good to see this ascension OP
Incredible transformation

1. Out of curiosity, is there a reason you didn’t opt for more CCW?
Especially for the lower jaw, but the upper too?

2. Did you notice any paranasal projection?

3. Could you have gotten more paranasal projection from this surgery?

4. Did you notice any upwards rotation of the nose? Why/ why not?

 

[rrm_ss2]

You have to be trolling

tell me how I'm wrong jfl and stop with the " he needed bimax" shit explain why he needed it.

 

[mikeperry271]

Great results bro
Bimax saved you
Excited to see it without the swelling. Would likely take months tho.

Here's the fucking truth guys: I did not have that epiphany as I'd hoped. There's no rays of light or angel hymns. It's just "oh I guess that's that."

Very heavy on this part tho. I also made some threads on this.
Life goes on after surgery, things wont magically change.
Live your best life before the surgery as well as after the surgery, don't halt your life because you will get surgery.

 

[normie_joe]

Nice result + this made me realize that probably don't need surgery

Biggest advice would be to treat it as a compliment to your life, don't hold up your life specifically for it.

Once whatever surgery you wanted is done, you are left with bleak realizations.

The ones who will benefit and appreciate their results the most would be those who have success in other areas.

I was like "oh next would be infras" but fuck infras, next would be getting the rest of my life together.

 

[greycel]

jfl at you thinking a projected maxilla will make you look like a monkey and you only see problems from a misaligned bite if its a major issue not just slightly misaligned. and the surgeons did a pretty good job tricking you into thinking a slightly misaligned bite will make you look worse

He looks better

Also, his maxilla isn’t bad

Also, maxilla doesn’t matter too much for men.. because a more projected maxilla will result in less zygo definition (especially the under part that is ideal for definition)

 

[rrm_ss2]

He looks better

Also, his maxilla isn’t bad

Also, maxilla doesn’t matter too much for men.. because a more projected maxilla will result in less zygo definition (especially the under part that is ideal for definition)

That's just wrong a projected maxilla is what makes the zygos more defined

 

[ThisCat]

jfl at you thinking a projected maxilla will make you look like a monkey and you only see problems from a misaligned bite if its a major issue not just slightly misaligned. and the surgeons did a pretty good job tricking you into thinking a slightly misaligned bite will make you look worse

He would have more maxillary prognathism, can affect bite alignment, chewing, and speech, and can also impact facial aesthetics. this is what he would a got if he followed your shitty advice

 

[ThisCat]

He looks better

Also, his maxilla isn’t bad

Also, maxilla doesn’t matter too much for men.. because a more projected maxilla will result in less zygo definition (especially the under part that is ideal for definition)

Agree with first part not the second tho

 

[greycel]

That's just wrong a projected maxilla is what makes the zygos more defined

A projected maxilla from surgery will result in the zygos being underdeveloped relative to it

A projected maxilla in nature might have more projection of the zygos but the mid face in relation would be projected too, which would result in less anterior projection of the zygo compared to the midface

The skin stretches alongside the underside of the zygo more, when the paranasal area is flatter

 

[normie_joe]

couldnt you just get ccw then get setback? also results look fine anyway

Oh you can undo lefort overadvancement results. I think @SixCRY or @Acromegaly_Chad had theirs setback after being over advanced.

But you want to avoid that from happening in the first place.

Rule of thumb: lefort greater than 5mm (esp without CCW), will likely cause chimp lip.

Less upper jaw movement, the better. You want as much lower jaw as you can.

 

[esoterik]

Oh you can undo lefort overadvancement results. I think @SixCRY or @Acromegaly_Chad had theirs setback after being over advanced.

But you want to avoid that from happening in the first place.

Rule of thumb: lefort greater than 5mm (esp without CCW), will likely cause chimp lip.

Less upper jaw movement, the better. You want as much lower jaw as you can.

i see, what about no "movement" just ccw then setback if someone already has a over advanced lower third thats recessed

 

[diditeverbegin]

Biggest advice would be to treat it as a compliment to your life, don't hold up your life specifically for it.

Once whatever surgery you wanted is done, you are left with bleak realizations.

The ones who will benefit and appreciate their results the most would be those who have success in other areas.

I was like "oh next would be infras" but fuck infras, next would be getting the rest of my life together.

Yeah, I honestly believe the orthodontist now that I just need braces, and I'd rather have that than surgery tbh, it's just a more difficult process.

 

[ThisCat]

A projected maxilla from surgery will result in the zygos being underdeveloped relative to it

A projected maxilla in nature might have more projection of the zygos but the mid face in relation would be projected too, which would result in less anterior projection of the zygo compared to the midface

The skin stretches alongside the underside of the zygo more, when the paranasal area is flatter

Do you mean with a lefort 1? If so you might be right bc its just the upper jaw and not the whole upper face

 

[rrm_ss2]

He would have more maxillary prognathism, can affect bite alignment, chewing, and speech, and can also impact facial aesthetics. this is what he would a got if he followed your shitty advice

you're just retarded for saying this jfl. that only happens from shitty Jewish surgeons you should always ask them to project the maxilla as much as they safely can not just the mandible + the maxilla should almost always be Islightly infront of the mandible not like they did to him

 

[normie_joe]

i see, what about no "movement" just ccw then setback if someone already has a over advanced lower third thats recessed

I don't understand what you are trying to say bro, do you have a picture you can show me?

I don't know what you mean by an over advanced lower third that's recessed.

 

[greycel]

Agree with first part not the second tho

I speak from experience
But I guess the best way to explain it would be in above’s post and these pics

You see how you can see the entire circle of the zygo
It’s because the soft tissue is arranged so the skin stretches more vertically than horizontally forwards
So it wraps more around the zygo bone in the vertical direction

Which is why projected paranasal areas reduce zygo definition, not to mention limit the underside of it to be shown

It’s dimorphic to have a relatively flatter paranasal area
Everything else relative to it is projected

For women, it’s the opposite. They should have projection at that part of the midface

 

[rrm_ss2]

A projected maxilla from surgery will result in the zygos being underdeveloped relative to it

A projected maxilla in nature might have more projection of the zygos but the mid face in relation would be projected too, which would result in less anterior projection of the zygo compared to the midface

The skin stretches alongside the underside of the zygo more, when the paranasal area is flatter

a lefort surgery projects the whole face if he projected the maxilla properly first and than he projected the mandible with a different surgery, implants etc that wouldnt happen

 

[NoaA99]

All these normies talking out of their arses- that’s actually a pretty decent result.

 

[ThisCat]

you're just retarded for saying this jfl. that only happens from shitty Jewish surgeons you should always ask them to project the maxilla as much as they safely can not just the mandible + the maxilla should almost always be Islightly infront of the mandible not like they did to him

Yeah slightly not majorly infornt of the mandible like he would get with a lefort 1

 

[ThisCat]

I speak from experience
But I guess the best way to explain it would be in above’s post and these pics

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You see how you can see the entire circle of the zygo
It’s because the soft tissue is arranged so the skin stretches more vertically than horizontally forwards
So it wraps more around the zygo bone in the vertical direction

Which is why projected paranasal areas reduce zygo definition, not to mention limit the underside of it to be shown

It’s dimorphism to have a relatively flatter paranasal area
Everything else relative to it is projected

For women, it’s the opposite. They should have projection at that part of the midface

I see wym now thx for contex

 

[ThisCat]

All these normies talking out of their arses- that’s actually a pretty decent result.

Yeah he had a major accession

 

[ThisCat]

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@flatcheck213

 

[esoterik]

I don't understand what you are trying to say bro, do you have a picture you can show me?

I don't know what you mean by an over advanced lower third that's recessed.

recessed as in downgrowth, and over advanced as in; protruding

 

[flatcheck213]

@superpsycho
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What

 

[normie_joe]

you're just retarded for saying this jfl. that only happens from shitty Jewish surgeons you should always ask them to project the maxilla as much as they safely can not just the mandible + the maxilla should almost always be Islightly infront of the mandible not like they did to him

I highly suggest for those reading this to NOT follow this "advice."

Lefort 1 and all upper jaw movements should be kept to an absolute minimum. It's why Ramieri doesn't go past 4mm.

You will butcher your face if you get a 10mm lefort. You will look like this

This especially applies for people with a less forward nasal bridge and upturned nose

If you look like this I would avoid lefort altogether.

It will ruin your face, listen to me on this.

 

[rrm_ss2]

Yeah slightly not majorly infornt of the mandible like he would get with a lefort 1

because a lefort 1 is not what he needs he would just look weird with it he should've gotten a lefort 2 with bsso + if the nose is infornt of the mandible that doesn't mean the maxilla is

 

[ThisCat]

What

Wanna see your option on this

 

[flatcheck213]

This especially applies for people with a less forward nasal bridge and upturned nose

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Both less or only less forward?

 

[ThisCat]

I highly suggest for those reading this to NOT follow this "advice."

Lefort 1 and all upper jaw movements should be kept to an absolute minimum. It's why Ramieri doesn't go past 4mm.

You will butcher your face if you get a 10mm lefort. You will look like this

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This especially applies for people with a less forward nasal bridge and upturned nose

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If you look like this I would avoid lefort altogether.

It will ruin your face, listen to me on this.

Mirin effort

 

[flatcheck213]

Wanna see your option on this

Good results, it’s questionable whether he should’ve done more advancement only in LF1 zone

 

[rrm_ss2]

I highly suggest for those reading this to NOT follow this "advice."

Lefort 1 and all upper jaw movements should be kept to an absolute minimum. It's why Ramieri doesn't go past 4mm.

You will butcher your face if you get a 10mm lefort. You will look like this

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This especially applies for people with a less forward nasal bridge and upturned nose

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If you look like this I would avoid lefort altogether.

It will ruin your face, listen to me on this.

a lefort 1 only projects slightly above the teeth it does not project the nasel, zygos or the mid face with it so this isn't even the right surgery if you're that recessed you need a lefort 2 - 3 you cant just project the lower part of the maxilla and think it will ascend you

 

[rrm_ss2]

Good results, it’s questionable whether he should’ve done more advancement only in LF1 zone

don't do what he did

 

[flatcheck213]

a lefort 1 only projects slightly above the teeth it does not project the nasel, zygos or the mid face with it so this isn't even the right surgery if you're that recessed you need a lefort 2,3 you cant just project the lower part of the maxilla and think it will ascend you

I doubt if someone would perform LF3 on him

 

[ThisCat]

Good results, it’s questionable whether he should’ve done more advancement only in LF1 zone

Yeah he still ascended tho

 

[ThisCat]

don't do what he did

This guys tryna fuck people's face up tryna get rid of competition

 

[rrm_ss2]

I doubt if someone would perform LF3 on him

many surgeons avoid LF3 since its very risky

 

[rrm_ss2]

This guys tryna fuck people's face up tryna get rid of competition

jfl at you thinking he ascended spent his money and time to still be lower than average I don't even know why I'm wasting my time on you

 

[flatcheck213]

many surgeons avoid LF3 since its very risky

Why would he move his tripod at all?

 

[ThisCat]

jfl at you thinking he ascended spent his money and time to still be lower than average I don't even know why I'm wasting my time on you

You're saying he doesn't look significantly better now

 

[rrm_ss2]

Why would he move his tripod at all?

A projected maxilla from surgery will result in the zygos being underdeveloped relative to it

A projected maxilla in nature might have more projection of the zygos but the mid face in relation would be projected too, which would result in less anterior projection of the zygo compared to the midface

The skin stretches alongside the underside of the zygo more, when the paranasal area is flatter

this guy said it I don't feel like typing it

 

[normie_joe]

recessed as in downgrowth, and over advanced as in; protruding
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First you are tilting your head down, so that makes you look more downgrown than you actually are.

The issue isn't your jaws(your jaws are really nice esp that upper lip curve), it's your upper half.

That "protruding lower third" isn't actually protruding. What's happening is your forehead and upper maxilla isn't as forward making you think it's your jaws.

You are not a bimax candidate, technically it's a monobloc that brings your forehead forward, but it's as much a meme surgery as a lefort 3.

You look fine, I wouldn't stress it.

Me I was genuinely recessed as you can see.