Bimax in 3 weeks, these are the plans

[DrDrKater]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

 

[geenk worg]

Advancing this cut 8mm would move your gonions forward which is terrible for aesthetics

 

[DrDrKater]

Advancing this cut 8mm would move your gonions forward which is terrible for aesthetics

what do you think of this cut, it's just an estimate, do you think it's good for aesthetics?

 

[geenk worg]

what do you think of this cut, it's just an estimate, do you think it's good for aesthetics?

It's not a substitute for BSSO if you need advancement.

 

[DrDrKater]

Its actually a modern form of BSSO, just an other cut

It's not a substitute for BSSO if you need advancement.

 

[YuuJo]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

probably gonna ascend your side profile to get closer/above your front

 

[DrDrKater]

probably gonna ascend your side profile to get closer/above your front

do you think it'll do anything for front?

 

[kiannnn]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

mirin

 

[geenk worg]

View attachment 4543178 Its actually a modern form of BSSO, just an other cut

Do you even fucking read man

 

[YuuJo]

do you think it'll do anything for front?

maybe but i cant see it. but others can probably help you more with this im sorry

 

[NoaA99]

Zahlt Kasse bei dir?

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Mirin

 

[DrDrKater]

Do you even fucking read man

you said it's not an substitute for bsso, if you need advancement, i said it ain't a substitute because it is a BSSO??? i don't think it's harmful for your gonions if you move your mandible for 7mm

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Zahlt Kasse bei dir?

Ich glaub nd, weil das ist ja ne Schönheitsoperation und nd etwa um am Leben zu bleiben oder so (iwi schon hehe)

 

[DrDrKater]

Zahlt Kasse bei dir?

13K privat, kasse zahlt 8k krankenhauskosten aber sieht medizinische indikation nicht ein, was sagst so zum plan?

 

[DrDrKater]

Ich glaub nd, weil das ist ja ne Schönheitsoperation und nd etwa um am Leben zu bleiben oder so (iwi schon hehe)

grey

 

[NoaA99]

13K privat, kasse zahlt 8k krankenhauskosten aber sieht medizinische indikation nicht ein, was sagst so zum plan?

Krass, rein objektiv gesehen gibt es weitaus klinisch relevantere Fälle.
Ich habe z. B. eine Klasse-3 (Unterbiss) und Knorpelresorption am linken Kiefergelenk (mit 27), und die Kasse übernimmt nichts. Tue seit über 5 Jahren damit rum.
Als Folge besteht auch eine Midline Discrepancy, scheint bei dir ebenfalls der Fall zu sein, oder?

Dennoch eine gute Entscheidung. Viel Erfolg dir!

 

[NoaA99]

13K privat, kasse zahlt 8k krankenhauskosten aber sieht medizinische indikation nicht ein, was sagst so zum plan?

Plan ist gut

 

[geenk worg]

you said it's not an substitute for bsso, if you need advancement, i said it ain't a substitute because it is a BSSO???

It's not a traditional bsso. It would not look good if you advance it by 8 mm for the reason I've already explained.

i don't think it's harmful for your gonions if you move your mandible for 7mm

Good luck with that.

 

[metaaa]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

It will pretty much ascend your side profile so I think it's worth it

 

[DrDrKater]

It will pretty much ascend your side profile so I think it's worth it

do you think the front will benefit too?

 

[DrDrKater]

It's not a traditional bsso. It would not look good if you advance it by 8 mm for the reason I've already explained.

Good luck with that.

nigga

 

[metaaa]

do you think the front will benefit too?

I mean your lower face might look wider and more masculine but I doubt there will be much more difference than that

 

[K.German Psycho]

What is the advantage of making the bsso cut there? What did the Surgeon say

 

[Foreverbrad]

As others have said, this makes no sense for advancement. I can see it being useful cut for a rotational only movement to change the gonial angle or downgrafting the ramus.

Obviously you will not gain any jaw length with this cut.

 

[HardMaxxed]

what do you think of this cut, it's just an estimate, do you think it's good for aesthetics?

Never heard of this, but you need to look at previous cases the surgeon treated.
Personally i would never undergo a surgery if surgeon doesn't have at least 50+ cases of this prior cut

 

[DrDrKater]

Never heard of this, but you need to look at previous cases the surgeon treated.
Personally i would never undergo a surgery if surgeon doesn't have at least 50+ cases of this prior cut

i made a mistake, he actually uses the normal BSSO cut, the model is just simplified for showcasing the cut to sub 80 iq niggers

 

[MOLEPULE]

can i get more info like how much its costing and how did you design it or the doc did it mirin btw

 

[sub5static]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

looking forward to seeing it, hope everything goes well!

 

[Ascension75]

13K privat, kasse zahlt 8k krankenhauskosten aber sieht medizinische indikation nicht ein, was sagst so zum plan?

Why would they pay the hospital fees then?

I would never trust German surgeons for asthetic related stuff. They just don't have the culture and average age is like 50 in Germany alias those surgeons usually do surgery on boomers who want to breadth better not mog in the nightclub.

Also Germans are not allowed to public before after results on the internet, so there is much less motivation to create better asthetic results as nobody will see it anyways even if it's good than for instance US or Italian surgeons competing with each other on insta for the best ascension case.

You can do it but expect that you will be needing more surgeries in future to actually improve looks. Not worth to rush it with age 17 tbh

Definitely consult with other surgeons regarding the surgeons movement plan and get more opinions before going for it.

 

[Ascension75]

Your nose width is already not the best and this will become even worse with the lefort 1 cut.

Do you have 10k available to get rhino a year later? If not you risk being stuck with an overall worse looking face than pre surgery unironically. And this for years until you can afford more surgeries. There aren't many "only Trimax" ascension cases especially with your face. You are nowhere near deformed enough.

you are rushing to get surgery to looksmax in your teenager years and enjoy it while it's worth but this may backfire hard if you don't have enough funds available

 

[Prøphet]

View attachment 4543178 Its actually a modern form of BSSO, just an other cut

Neither of those are bsso bro

 

[AustrianMogger]

I'm 17 years old, i live in Germany and i'm getting a bimax surgery + genioplasty performed by Dr. Dr. Kater (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) in about 3 weeks.
I planned the surgery with him yesterday and these are my results:
1. What do yall think of this of this osteotomy cutting technique?

The cut is performed directly below the condyles. It's a new technique and it has some advantages (such as more stability after the healingprocess).
So what i discussed with his assistant surgeon:
I'm getting a genioplasty (Kater will plan the movement in mm so I don't know yet) + bimax osteotomy (BSSO and Le Fort I, I don't know the movement in mm aswell).
The assistant surgeon said that a slight CW rotation will be performed too.
My estimated measurements are: 8mm BSSO, 7mm Le Fort I, 5mm sagittal and 3mm vertical movement for the genioplasty and 3 degrees for the CW.
This is my current front and side- profile:

I'd say i have a MTN front but a Sub 5 side, perfect case for a bimax.
I'll post the results and the specific plans, once i have them.
What do yall think of it? Do yall think it'll be an insane ascension or rather small?

Not good. Cost ?