Bimax is probably cope for fixing your normie side profile.

[mackeycel]

Likely the biggest issue for most normies is jaw recession, so on here djs seems to be the dream surgery for most people

But sadly i think its nothing more than a pipe dream for most people, unless in the case of severe malocclusions, recessions impacting the front profile, or noticeably ugly birdcels

Obviously we all want the beautifully forward grown side profile, but side isnt THAT important at the end of the day, and tbh all you need to be moderately attractive is a chin, even if it does fall behind the nasion when aligned along the frankfurt plane

Are you really going to spend ~30k (assuming no revisions which is FAR from a guarantee), go through a recovery people describe as the hardest thing they've ever been through just for a result that could very well be underwhelming or dogmaxxed that you will need to put implants or filler over?

Thats why i think us recessedcels should lower our aspirations for our hardmaxxed side profiles from someone like Cavill to Lucky Blue Smith and opt for genioplasty/implants/filler to give us a decent chin and ramus height at the very least

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

Water

 

[yussimania]

Shit thread keep coping

He needs BSSO bare minimum

 

[greydove.]

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Shit thread keep coping

He needs BSSO bare minimum

Idk, bsso is way overhyped roi wise, mainly affects side profile which most of the time doesn't even matter

 

[Animepilled]

The thing about jaw aesthetics is that forward projection of it is not the most important part for aesthetics. Jaw width, ramus heigh, masseter insertions and gonial angle are more important.
Because these attributes affect how you look from the front, not the forward projection.
If you arent attractive before, jaw surgery wont make you a chad.
There are tons of recessed actors/models like Christian Bale, Eduard Badaluta, Blue Smith, Chalamet etc. They mog because from the front their jaw looks good and that what matters.
It's all about front, forward growth of the jaws is one of the biggest copes in this community and is generally an ethnic trait.

 

[greydove.]

The thing about jaw aesthetics is that forward projection of it is not the most important part for aesthetics. Jaw width, ramus heigh, masseter insertions and gonial angle are more important.
Because these attributes affect how you look from the front, not the forward projection.
If you arent attractive before, jaw surgery wont make you a chad.
There are tons of recessed actors/models like Christian Bale, Eduard Badaluta, Blue Smith, Chalamet etc. They mog because from the front their jaw looks good and that what matters.
It's all about front, forward growth of the jaws is one of the biggest copes in this community and is generally an ethnic trait.

True, but if you do have a RECESSED chin its a big falio from the f and s (just look at any genios done on reddit) and if you do have one, it should be the first surgery you get and iyw more after get implants/fillers (or whatever your wallet can handle ), ops point is that not many people can dish out that sort of money for the type surgerys being suggested to fix said falios

 

[Animepilled]

True, but if you do have a RECESSED chin its a big falio from the f and s (just look at any genios done on reddit) and if you do have one, it should be the first surgery you get and iyw more after get implants/fillers (or whatever your wallet can handle ), ops point is that not many people can dish out that sort of money for the type surgerys being suggested to fix said falios

yeah but thats deformed level. im talking about recession level of the people i listed. Lots of people here ive seen who have better forward growth than them and still consider jaw surgery which is ridiculous

 

[greydove.]

Yeah I've seen that as well, surgery priority is going to be different for everyone depending on what you have and dont, there are a lot of people here that dont have minimal recession like the examples you listed though, myself included

 

[Animepilled]

Yeah I've seen that as well, surgery priority is going to be different for everyone depending on what you have and dont, there are a lot of people here that dont have minimal recession like the examples you listed though, myself included

you'll pull through g. Get a bimax and youll mog. I need jaw surgery too

 

[O'bhai]

The thing about jaw aesthetics is that forward projection of it is not the most important part for aesthetics. Jaw width, ramus heigh, masseter insertions and gonial angle are more important.
Because these attributes affect how you look from the front, not the forward projection.
If you arent attractive before, jaw surgery wont make you a chad.
There are tons of recessed actors/models like Christian Bale, Eduard Badaluta, Blue Smith, Chalamet etc. They mog because from the front their jaw looks good and that what matters.
It's all about front, forward growth of the jaws is one of the biggest copes in this community and is generally an ethnic trait.

thats why I say bimax without implants is retarded .

 

[Nahorscend]

It's literally the opposite, recessed jaw is a bad failo whereas a recesssed chin is something you can live with and say side doesn't matter so much.

A recessed chin with a good jaw looks like basically a sharp submental, good definition of the jawline, appearance of forward growth everywhere except just the pogonion a bit behind the lips.

A recessed jaw ruins your side considerably and should be corrected, will likely give unacceptable cervicomental angle and cannot be frauded with beard the way a recessed chin can.

 

[mackeycel]

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Shit thread keep coping

He needs BSSO bare minimum

fucking lol at your iq if you think that improvement is worth the cost of jaw surgery

his side is far above average, yes he is recessed but it's not to the point of being worse than any other harmony flaw like flat brow ridge etc

 

[kaydd]

fucking lol at your iq if you think that improvement is worth the cost of jaw surgery

his side is far above average, yes he is recessed but it's not to the point of being worse than any other harmony flaw like flat brow ridge etc

what other harmony flaw could you mention for the side

 

[mackeycel]

what other harmony flaw could you mention for the side

in smiths case or in general?

 

[Acquiescence]

Yea I’m coping with genio but it’s completely over anyways just one final cope tbh

 

[mackeycel]

It's literally the opposite, recessed jaw is a bad failo whereas a recesssed chin is something you can live with and say side doesn't matter so much.

A recessed chin with a good jaw looks like basically a sharp submental, good definition of the jawline, appearance of forward growth everywhere except just the pogonion a bit behind the lips.

A recessed jaw ruins your side considerably and should be corrected, will likely give unacceptable cervicomental angle and cannot be frauded with beard the way a recessed chin can.

From the side, yes I agree

However, front is far more important and chin recession cucks your front profile by giving you that all lips no chin lower third look with shadowing under your mouth

 

[kaydd]

in smiths case or in general?

in general

 

[mackeycel]

in general

gonial angle, mpa, many ratios with the nose, brow ridge and others

 

[mackeycel]

@lurking truecel thoughts?

 

[Doctor Egor]

only people who shouldnt think twice when considering bimax are the severe birdcels as you said and SFScels

 

[lurking truecel]

It's literally the opposite, recessed jaw is a bad failo whereas a recesssed chin is something you can live with and say side doesn't matter so much.

A recessed chin with a good jaw looks like basically a sharp submental, good definition of the jawline, appearance of forward growth everywhere except just the pogonion a bit behind the lips.

A recessed jaw ruins your side considerably and should be corrected, will likely give unacceptable cervicomental angle and cannot be frauded with beard the way a recessed chin can.

Submental, and forward growth is diff things. Most bimaxes dont do that much to the submental more then the jaw comes forward. If you want to make the submental actually better you need genio glossus pulling the submental chin muscle and hyiod up slightly. But still many just have bad fat, low hyiod(that cant be fixed) and skin in that region so they need a necklift if anything(still wont fix hyiod if bad enough).

And still submental doesnt do much for front, and is secondary to actual width snd height of ramus and muscle etc like some other guy said. Bimax is a functional surgery but people dont realize. Its good for deformity but overrated in cosmetics when its not obv needed

 

[bjebb007]

Yeah bimax seem like a whole ordeal. I'm just going to cope with genio since I have a recessed chin anyways and try to get a large movement like 8-10mm and a rhino and call it the day

 

[mackeycel]

Submental, and forward growth is diff things. Most bimaxes dont do that much to the submental more then the jaw comes forward. If you want to make the submental actually better you need genio glossus pulling the submental chin muscle and hyiod up slightly. But still many just have bad fat, low hyiod(that cant be fixed) and skin in that region so they need a necklift if anything(still wont fix hyiod if bad enough).

And still submental doesnt do much for front, and is secondary to actual width snd height of ramus and muscle etc like some other guy said. Bimax is a functional surgery but people dont realize. Its good for deformity but overrated in cosmetics when its not obv needed

True. there are lots of forward grown people with shit turkey neck submental, Tom Hardy comes to mind

Im curious, what would you estimate is the level of recession where bimax is warranted?

 

[mackeycel]

Yeah bimax seem like a whole ordeal. I'm just going to cope with genio since I have a recessed chin anyways and try to get a large movement like 8-10mm and a rhino and call it the day

Wish i could too but my shit is incel tier

 

[lurking truecel]

True. there are lots of forward grown people with shit turkey neck submental, Tom Hardy comes to mind

Im curious, what would you estimate is the level of recession where bimax is warranted?

When its obvious recession and functional issues. Hard to say exactly

 

[mackeycel]

When its obvious recession and functional issues. Hard to say exactly

Do you think mine is this bad? i wonder if im birdcel tier like I said

 

[lurking truecel]

Do you think mine is this bad? i wonder if im birdcel tier like I said

I mean its a bit about subjectivity, maybe it is for you i dont know

 

[mackeycel]

I mean its a bit about subjectivity, maybe it is for you i dont know

Fair point, i guess its all about how life feels at ones current looks level and how far they would go to move the needle

Though at the very least im sure bimax would be warranted in my case, not just being the average autist who wants his face cut open to become chad

 

[Adee]

this thread is a cope itself

 

[jfllcellular]

Do you think mine is this bad? i wonder if im birdcel tier like I said

ngl this just looks like chin deficiency and not whole jaw deficiency

 

[Sub --0]

Likely the biggest issue for most normies is jaw recession, so on here djs seems to be the dream surgery for most people

But sadly i think its nothing more than a pipe dream for most people, unless in the case of severe malocclusions, recessions impacting the front profile, or noticeably ugly birdcels

Obviously we all want the beautifully forward grown side profile, but side isnt THAT important at the end of the day, and tbh all you need to be moderately attractive is a chin, even if it does fall behind the nasion when aligned along the frankfurt plane

Are you really going to spend ~30k (assuming no revisions which is FAR from a guarantee), go through a recovery people describe as the hardest thing they've ever been through just for a result that could very well be underwhelming or dogmaxxed that you will need to put implants or filler over?

Thats why i think us recessedcels should lower our aspirations for our hardmaxxed side profiles from someone like Cavill to Lucky Blue Smith and opt for genioplasty/implants/filler to give us a decent chin and ramus height at the very least

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the thing is, i have a slightly recessed maxilla, and recessed lower jaw and chin. I think I am the perfect canidate for it im not just throwing it out there

 

[shedontluv-U]

Water

Say that to all these bimax Glazer

You grey

 

[shedontluv-U]

this thread is a cope itself

Explain? Yourself