Black Muslim says if his mother and sister were non-believers they should be raped by muslims and taken as slaves

[Rabbi]

You dont get my statement. When you percieve all time in an instant x and y which one is infinite and y is temporary appears the same; an instant

Perception is of no consequence I am talking about creation itself not outside.

My question is why curse someone to hell prior to their birth?

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Perception is of no consequence I am talking about creation itself not outside.

My question is why curse someone to hell prior to their birth?

I already explained its the same to him and he expects we will find this out on our own to justify his actions, and we did, since im explaining it right here

 

[Rabbi]

I already explained its the same to him and he expects we will find this out on our own to justify his actions, and we did, since im explaining it right here

So he created Muhammad’s uncle just to get mad and curse him to hell because the words existed before creation that’s my point. That’s hard determinism and against free will which presumably Islam believes.

Kissing the pagan black stone has damaged your brain my friend

 

[JasGews69x]

Amazing so this just confirms you believe in predestination and disbelieve in free will.

Obviously I believe in predestination. Its one of the pillars of faith (Qadr)
Humans dont 'free will'. I cant start screaming and become a Super Saiyan 5.
We have limited choice and we will be judged on what we do have control over. Not what we dont have control over since Allah is the Most Just

It aligns with your Quran which says that people created for hell before they are born.

Yes Allah knows what they will do. Hes not forcing people to disbelieve.
Hes not forcing you to behave the way you are now, you're doing it yourself.

This 'freewill' argument is just an excuse to not believe.
6:148

The polytheists will argue, “Had it been Allah’s Will, neither we nor our forefathers would have associated others with Him ˹in worship˺ or made anything unlawful.” Likewise, those before them rejected the truth until they tasted Our punishment. Ask ˹them, O Prophet˺, “Do you have any knowledge that you can produce for us? Surely you follow nothing but ˹false˺ assumptions and you do nothing but lie.”

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

So he created Muhammad’s uncle just to get mad and curse him to hell because the words existed before creation that’s my point. That’s hard determinism and against free will which presumably Islam believes.

Kissing the pagan black stone has damaged your brain my friend

When you view something in an instant it is not as if you have determined it, it is the same as if you created stuff and did stuff in that world the same as if you viewed as a human would just that you view it in an instant.
If you started an algorithm with beings that make their own decisions and sped it up infinitely fast were their actions predetermined?
Hes not gonna put one before the other to avoid humans saying "muh determinism" since he knows that someone will probably find out this logic of him perceiving time in an insant on their own

 

[Rabbi]

Obviously I believe in predestination. Its one of the pillars of faith (Qadr)
Humans dont 'free will'. I cant start screaming and become a Super Saiyan 5.
We have limited choice and we will be judged on what we do have control over. Not what we dont have control over since Allah is the Most Just


Yes Allah knows what they will do. Hes not forcing people to disbelieve.
Hes not forcing you to behave the way you are now, you're doing it yourself.

This 'freewill' argument is just an excuse to not believe.
6:148

The polytheists will argue, “Had it been Allah’s Will, neither we nor our forefathers would have associated others with Him ˹in worship˺ or made anything unlawful.” Likewise, those before them rejected the truth until they tasted Our punishment. Ask ˹them, O Prophet˺, “Do you have any knowledge that you can produce for us? Surely you follow nothing but ˹false˺ assumptions and you do nothing but lie.”

You say ‘limited choice’ but predestination means there is no choice there just is and any choice is an illusion.

Most merciful moment, I guess it was his mercy when he allowed Muhammad to take sex slaves.

 

[JasGews69x]

You say ‘limited choice’ but predestination means there is no choice there just is and any choice is an illusion.

You dont know Islam

What Is Qadar in Islam? - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

Which 'choice' is an illusion?
Making more excuses

Most merciful moment, I guess it was his mercy when he allowed Muhammad to take sex slaves.

Shifting the goalpost
Womp womp
Where are sex slaves?
Moral arguments

 

[renos]

May god forgive him

 

[Rabbi]

You dont know Islam

What Is Qadar in Islam? - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

Which 'choice' is an illusion?
Making more excuses

Shifting the goalpost
Womp womp
Where are sex slaves?
Moral arguments

QURAN - 33:50

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty”

QURAN - 23:5,6

"who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."

QURAN - 4:24

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you.


QURAN - 70:22-30



"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."

There’s more from the hadiths but I’m just waiting for some bullshit excuse for now

 

[JasGews69x]

Your freewill points were debunked so you shifted goalpost to make moral arguments (which you can't prove anyway) based on your ignorance.
No problem

QURAN - 33:50

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty”

QURAN - 23:5,6

"who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."

QURAN - 4:24

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you.


QURAN - 70:22-30



"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."

There’s more from the hadiths but I’m just waiting for some bullshit excuse for now

'b-b-but sex slaves' - Kuffar cope
Where does it say sex slaves?
You just put in your interpretation to make yourself feel better.
'slaves'

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not refer to anyone as ‘my slave,’ for all of you are the slaves of Allah. Rather, you should refer to him as ‘my young man.’ The servant should not refer to anyone as ‘my lord,’ but rather he should refer to him as ‘my master.’”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2249

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Karma cause the gulf countries were the most faithful so got blessed with oil money while shitty european countries are getting raped by Muslim migrants after occupying the middle east

Karma is pagan concept, nice one.
occupying a country isn't evil, we aren't sorry for being better warriors lol.
"gulf countries were the most faithful so got blessed with oil money"
so does that mean Europe was more faithful hence why they mog the shit out of sand countries in terms of power, tech & historic domination? lol

in the end white muslims will outbreed brownskin muslims and we will be the majority.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Karma is pagan concept, nice one.
occupying a country isn't evil, we aren't sorry for being better warriors lol.
"gulf countries were the most faithful so got blessed with oil money"
so does that mean Europe was more faithful hence why they mog the shit out of sand countries in terms of power, tech & historic domination? lol

in the end white muslims will outbreed brownskin muslims and we will be the majority.

White countries were dominant bc the world belongs to nonbelievers
But now we are in endtimes so Muslim countries are dominating again
Also how ironic you say your not sorry for being the better warriors but would probably insult Islam for terrorists

 

[zaymoggin]

“Religion of peace”
Shit is so evil, should be banned from every civilized country.

Y'all gave the label of religion of peace we didn't

 

[zaymoggin]

Fucking crazy shit.
Earlier this guy was saying he would never be Christian because they enslaved people.

How is his point of view Islamic when according to islam its kufr ? Make it make sense

The prophet had Jews christians and athiests living in medina

How is that reflected in here ? That mf ain a Muslim

Last religion settlement where all 3 religions where peaceful was Andalusia

That shit lasted for 800 yrs that's why the Spanish language exists

N who was the religion that ran it ? Was it Christianity ?

Hell Christianity the one that ran it down to the ground n did forced conversions

 

[Deleted member 89128]

White countries were dominant bc the world belongs to nonbelievers
But now we are in endtimes so Muslim countries are dominating again
Also how ironic you say your not sorry for being the better warriors but would probably insult Islam for terrorists

i don't think FLEEING the homeland of your ancestors to the countries fighting you is very warrior-like, and then taking advantage of their only empathy by trying to implement sharia through population through trying to have as many kids as possible, lol. 1 billion+ muslims vs. 7 million jews in israel and no one is doing shit. it's time for a white muslim country to form and outbreed browns because they clearly are not warrior people.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

i don't think FLEEING the homeland of your ancestors to the countries fighting you is very warrior-like, and then taking advantage of their only empathy by trying to implement sharia through population through trying to have as many kids as possible, lol. 1 billion+ muslims vs. 7 million jews in israel and no one is doing shit. it's time for a white muslim country to form and outbreed browns because they clearly are not warrior people.

Yeah bc we are not warriors we are far more peaceful than your countries

 

[Deleted member 89128]

I pray to Allah that he grants a majority of white anglo / broadly NW Europeans to become muslim and show brown muslims what warriors really are.

 

[Deleted member 74528]

Tallest structure ever made by any organism that has lived in this universe
Made by Muslims

Bhai no beef no offense or whatsoever but I have to say it
Shove it up your ass

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Bhai no beef no offense or whatsoever but I have to say it
Shove it up your ass

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Yeah bc we are not warriors we are far more peaceful than your countries

yeah i guess that innocent peaceful-like nature instantly switches when you see a white woman wearing a tight dress lmfao. stop fucking raping my people you brown fuck, and stop killing whites on the street or white muslims will just start killing you if you want to make this a fucking race war.

 

[Deleted member 74528]

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Bro it was a intrusive thought I js had to say it I was having tingles and giggling while typing that

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

yeah i guess that innocent peaceful-like nature instantly switches when you see a white woman wearing a tight dress lmfao. stop fucking raping my people you brown fuck, and stop killing whites on the street or white muslims will just start killing you if you want to make this a fucking race war.

Thats pakis not all Muslims
Arabs cuck whites with consent

 

[Deleted member 89128]

I'm a white muslim but hearing this shit saying you want to outbreed us and be happy to see us extinct makes me fucking furious. FUCK YOU. my tribe will not go extinct for browns lol.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

I'm a white muslim but hearing this shit saying you want to outbreed us and be happy to see us extinct makes me fucking furious. FUCK YOU. my tribe will not go extinct for browns lol.

Albanian or bosniak?

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Thats pakis not all Muslims
Arabs cuck whites with consent

why did arabs stop at europes border then.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Albanian or bosniak?

anglo
the future is white anglo muslims.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

okay lets say 400 million muslim Indonesians legally / refugee migrate to saudi and ethnically replace all the arabs there lol its one ummah right? we are all the same right?

 

[Deleted member 89128]

what if white muslims go to pakistan and start raping non-muslim pakistani women? how the fuck would you fucking feel then.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

makes me so fucking mad
one ummah bro
but we are gonna replace all whites bro

 

[Deleted member 89128]

@JeanneDArcAlter don't dnr me respond back

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

what if white muslims go to pakistan and start raping non-muslim pakistani women? how the fuck would you fucking feel then.

Im not paki tbh

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

okay lets say 400 million muslim Indonesians legally / refugee migrate to saudi and ethnically replace all the arabs there lol its one ummah right? we are all the same right?

Its only good if its Muslims into a non Muslim country

 

[zaymoggin]

i don't think FLEEING the homeland of your ancestors to the countries fighting you is very warrior-like, and then taking advantage of their only empathy by trying to implement sharia through population through trying to have as many kids as possible, lol. 1 billion+ muslims vs. 7 million jews in israel and no one is doing shit. it's time for a white muslim country to form and outbreed browns because they clearly are not warrior people.

We are not fleeing mf

This is the get back

We are making you western idealists regret ever colonizing our countries

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Its only good if its Muslims into a non Muslim country

???
Whats not good about 400 million people with no connection or genetic connection to you or the land coming and replacing you? they are Muslim brothers after all.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

???
Whats not good about 400 million people with no connection or genetic connection to you or the land coming and replacing you? they are Muslim brothers after all.

Because its bad when its done to us but good when we do it to someone else

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Because its bad when its done to us but good when we do it to someone else

Self preservation

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Because its bad when its done to us but good when we do it to someone else

:

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

:

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Self preservation

preservation of what?

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

preservation of what?

Your own people

 

[Deleted member 89128]

We are not fleeing mf

This is the get back

We are making you western idealists regret ever colonizing our countries

Not a word 10 years ago about a "get back" but as soon as you see a little boost in numbers the mask comes off "HAHAHAHA WE ARE HERE FOR RVENGE NOW HAHAHA"

what a weak fucking people holy fucking shit lol.

 

[buddhistking]

If you gon the strict word of the Bible then Christians are almost just as bad, it's just most modern day Chrsitians are either non-practicing or westerners who "adapted" the religion jfl

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Your own people

"O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another."

 

[Deleted member 89128]

why are you denying muslim brothers and sisters from india or indonesia to all migrate into arab lands just let them replace you bro.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Your own people

this will be your people in 100 years how do you feel about that and people celebrating it?

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

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this will be your people in 100 years how do you feel about that and people celebrating it?

I do not care but i would stop it if i could

 

[Deleted member 89128]

say goodbye to thesearabs

say hello to these NEW arabs

 

[Rabbi]

Your freewill points were debunked so you shifted goalpost to make moral arguments (which you can't prove anyway) based on your ignorance.
No problem

'b-b-but sex slaves' - Kuffar cope
Where does it say sex slaves?
You just put in your interpretation to make yourself feel better.
'slaves'

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not refer to anyone as ‘my slave,’ for all of you are the slaves of Allah. Rather, you should refer to him as ‘my young man.’ The servant should not refer to anyone as ‘my lord,’ but rather he should refer to him as ‘my master.’”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2249

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

Holy shit between this and citing sources that do claim what you say like last time you are illiterate.

A slave you can have sex with and posses is by definition a sex slave.

Also you quoting that Hadith does nothing but prove it’s contradictory to the Quran.

If Muhammad wanted to free slaves why did he lament when Aisha freed one of higher slaves instead of gifting them to someone else?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 47, Hadith Number 765.​

Narated By Kurib : The freed slave of Ibn ‘Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, “Do you know, O Allah’s Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?” He said, “Have you really?” She replied in the affirmative. He said, “You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles.”


Or when Muhammad nulled the freeing of a slave to sell him for money?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 41, Hadith Number 598.​

Narated By Jabir : A man manumitted a slave and he had no other property than that, so the Prophet cancelled the manumission (and sold the slave for him). No’aim bin Al-Nahham bought the slave from him.​

Your Islamic sources are all condoning of the practice and not only that but it’s the reason why no Islamic country ever had a successful movement that abolished and outlawed slavery without western and Christian influence.

About the free will discussion that matter is resolved we fundamentally do not see eye to eye what is there to discuss? Also JFL at saying it’s pivoting the entire point of this post was for slavery.

 

[Rabbi]

i don't think FLEEING the homeland of your ancestors to the countries fighting you is very warrior-like, and then taking advantage of their only empathy by trying to implement sharia through population through trying to have as many kids as possible, lol. 1 billion+ muslims vs. 7 million jews in israel and no one is doing shit. it's time for a white muslim country to form and outbreed browns because they clearly are not warrior people.

The entire Islamic world should hang its heads in shame after getting BTFO’d by a Jewish state that wasn’t even 20 years into its existence post holocaust.

This shit is genuinely sad

 

[Rabbi]

Rashi on genesis 25:20

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That’s a Jewish source written one thousand years after genesis