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Overview
Jova shares her high standards, focusing on dating only "Chadlites" or "Chads" (top-tier attractive men), believing it reflects confidence rather than settling for less. Fernanda, Debora, Norma, and Hilary push back, arguing that her standards may be unrealistic and could lead to disappointment, suggesting that compatibility and shared values should matter more than looks alone.
Blackpill vs. Bluepill Dynamics
Helene and Jova, the blackpill camp, stress that age matters as much as looks. They’re wary of older men, associating them with baggage and declining attractiveness, favoring men around their age or younger if they look youthful. This view clashes with the bluepill group, who see age as a sign of maturity and stability. Helene mocks their preference for older partners, viewing it as a "bluepill cope" for security, while the others argue that age is less about appearance and more about shared values and readiness for commitment.
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LTR outcomes
Jova shares her high standards, focusing on dating only "Chadlites" or "Chads" (top-tier attractive men), believing it reflects confidence rather than settling for less. Fernanda, Debora, Norma, and Hilary push back, arguing that her standards may be unrealistic and could lead to disappointment, suggesting that compatibility and shared values should matter more than looks alone.
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Blackpill vs. Bluepill Dynamics
- Blackpill Perspective (Jova and Helene): They prioritize looks and age as markers of value, dismissing men who don’t meet strict standards of attractiveness, which they associate with high self-worth. Jova argues that the so-called "Chad" men aren't always models or influencers and exist in regular settings if one has high standards. They criticize others’ openness to "settling" with average or older men as insecure or as signs of "anxious attachment."
- Bluepill Perspective (Fernanda, Debora, Lidia, Norma, Hilary, and Pilar): They emphasize the importance of finding a stable, kind, and compatible partner over strict adherence to appearance. They challenge the idea that "settling" equates to insecurity and argue that maturity and life experience often make older partners a better fit for committed relationships. They believe that Jova and Helene’s obsession with superficial attributes could lead to unrealistic expectations and ultimately disappointment.
Helene and Jova, the blackpill camp, stress that age matters as much as looks. They’re wary of older men, associating them with baggage and declining attractiveness, favoring men around their age or younger if they look youthful. This view clashes with the bluepill group, who see age as a sign of maturity and stability. Helene mocks their preference for older partners, viewing it as a "bluepill cope" for security, while the others argue that age is less about appearance and more about shared values and readiness for commitment.
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Chat
Monday
Fernanda (27):
“So, Jova, I heard you’re super specific about the kind of guy you want. I think it’s cool to have standards, but don’t you think you’re narrowing it down too much?”
Jova:
“Lmao, I just have standards, okay? I’d rather mog alone than settle for some LTN just because I’m 26. I know my worth and don’t have that ‘anxious attachment’ thing some girls do.”
Debora (31):
“But don’t you think expecting only ‘Chadlites’ is a bit unrealistic? Relationships are about finding someone compatible, not just looks.”
Jova:
“See, this is what’s wrong with Millennials—always talking about ‘range’ and ‘compatibility.’ Why should I waste time on some MTN guy who isn’t mogging? If I’m not attracted, I’m not interested.”
Norma (35):
“Jova, I think you’re being dismissive. Most of us just want someone stable and kind. Looks fade, you know?”
Jova:
“It’s 2024, Norm. Everyone’s -maxxing. Why should I settle for ‘stable and kind’ when I can do better? That’s for insecure girls.”
Hilary (33):
“I get having high standards, but ‘mogging’? You might be missing out on someone who could actually make you happy.”
Jova:
“Why are you all okay dating guys you’re not even attracted to? That sounds like anxious attachment.”
Lidia (29):
“Maybe we’re more open to finding someone we connect with. There’s nothing wrong with being realistic.”
Jova:
“Realistically, I’m not dating some ‘dad bod’ dude just because he’s ‘nice.’ I want someone HTN or higher.”
“So, Jova, I heard you’re super specific about the kind of guy you want. I think it’s cool to have standards, but don’t you think you’re narrowing it down too much?”
Jova:
“Lmao, I just have standards, okay? I’d rather mog alone than settle for some LTN just because I’m 26. I know my worth and don’t have that ‘anxious attachment’ thing some girls do.”
Debora (31):
“But don’t you think expecting only ‘Chadlites’ is a bit unrealistic? Relationships are about finding someone compatible, not just looks.”
Jova:
“See, this is what’s wrong with Millennials—always talking about ‘range’ and ‘compatibility.’ Why should I waste time on some MTN guy who isn’t mogging? If I’m not attracted, I’m not interested.”
Norma (35):
“Jova, I think you’re being dismissive. Most of us just want someone stable and kind. Looks fade, you know?”
Jova:
“It’s 2024, Norm. Everyone’s -maxxing. Why should I settle for ‘stable and kind’ when I can do better? That’s for insecure girls.”
Hilary (33):
“I get having high standards, but ‘mogging’? You might be missing out on someone who could actually make you happy.”
Jova:
“Why are you all okay dating guys you’re not even attracted to? That sounds like anxious attachment.”
Lidia (29):
“Maybe we’re more open to finding someone we connect with. There’s nothing wrong with being realistic.”
Jova:
“Realistically, I’m not dating some ‘dad bod’ dude just because he’s ‘nice.’ I want someone HTN or higher.”
Aletta:
“Honestly, I kinda get Jova. If you settle for someone ‘just okay,’ you’re asking for trouble. A lot of guys dump girls once they find someone younger or hotter.”
Pilar:
“Not every guy is out here looking to ‘pump and dump,’ though. Life’s too short to wait for a ‘perfect’ dude just to avoid getting hurt.”
Jova:
“These ‘average’ guys play the same games as anyone else. That’s why I only go for HTN or Chadlite—at least I know what I’m dealing with.”
Hilary:
“That’s a cynical way to look at things, Jova. Not every ‘average’ guy is insecure or bad. Some genuinely want to grow with a partner.”
Jova:
“Trust me, these average guys are just as insecure. They only settle because they don’t have options, but they’ll trade up when they get the chance. Not worth it.”
Norma:
“You sound like you have a lot of walls up, Jova. It’s one thing to have standards, but if you keep expecting the worst, you’ll never find someone who meets them.”
Jova:
“Walls? Call them standards, Norm. I’m not here to coddle anyone who isn’t HTN or higher.”
Aletta:
“She’s got a point, though. So many girls get used by guys who are just biding their time.”
Pilar:
“You sound paranoid. Not every guy is out to ‘trade up.’ You’ll scare off any decent guy with this mindset.”
“Honestly, I kinda get Jova. If you settle for someone ‘just okay,’ you’re asking for trouble. A lot of guys dump girls once they find someone younger or hotter.”
Pilar:
“Not every guy is out here looking to ‘pump and dump,’ though. Life’s too short to wait for a ‘perfect’ dude just to avoid getting hurt.”
Jova:
“These ‘average’ guys play the same games as anyone else. That’s why I only go for HTN or Chadlite—at least I know what I’m dealing with.”
Hilary:
“That’s a cynical way to look at things, Jova. Not every ‘average’ guy is insecure or bad. Some genuinely want to grow with a partner.”
Jova:
“Trust me, these average guys are just as insecure. They only settle because they don’t have options, but they’ll trade up when they get the chance. Not worth it.”
Norma:
“You sound like you have a lot of walls up, Jova. It’s one thing to have standards, but if you keep expecting the worst, you’ll never find someone who meets them.”
Jova:
“Walls? Call them standards, Norm. I’m not here to coddle anyone who isn’t HTN or higher.”
Aletta:
“She’s got a point, though. So many girls get used by guys who are just biding their time.”
Pilar:
“You sound paranoid. Not every guy is out to ‘trade up.’ You’ll scare off any decent guy with this mindset.”
Jova:
“Look, I’m just not gonna ‘see where it goes’ and get thrown aside. If I’m dating someone, he better be on my level, or he’s wasting my time.”
Norma:
“This is exhausting, Jova. Good luck with that, but maybe try not to look down on everyone else for being happy with different choices.”
Fernanda:
“Yeah, I hope you find what you’re looking for, but maybe don’t judge the rest of us for wanting something different.”
“Look, I’m just not gonna ‘see where it goes’ and get thrown aside. If I’m dating someone, he better be on my level, or he’s wasting my time.”
Norma:
“This is exhausting, Jova. Good luck with that, but maybe try not to look down on everyone else for being happy with different choices.”
Fernanda:
“Yeah, I hope you find what you’re looking for, but maybe don’t judge the rest of us for wanting something different.”
Jova:
“See, this is what I’m talking about—Jordan Barrett, Sean O’Pry, David Gandy. Why settle when guys like this exist?”
Fernanda:
“Jova, those guys are literally supermodels. How realistic is it to find someone like that who’s looking for an everyday relationship?”
Debora:
“Exactly! They’re gorgeous, but these men have entire careers based on their looks.”
Jova:
“Look, most Chads aren’t models or influencers. Good-looking guys exist who aren’t in the limelight. They’re out there if you actually have high standards.”
Norma:
“Seriously, Jova? Most guys who look like that don’t live low-key lives. It sounds like a setup for disappointment.”
Debora:
“Exactly. Finding an off-the-radar guy who looks like a model and wants a committed relationship sounds like a fantasy.”
Hilary:
“If these guys exist, they’re rare, and they get noticed. They don’t lead low-key lives.”
Jova:
“You all sound jaded. Just because you’re used to settling doesn’t mean I’m unrealistic. There are good-looking guys out there without the influencer life.”
Pilar:
“It’s not about settling; it’s about not chasing an impossible ideal.”
Jova:
“If he’s high-tier, that just proves he’s desirable. I’m not insecure and can hold my own. I’d rather wait than settle for average.”
Norma:
“Finding a young, attractive guy who’s commitment-minded? That’s a dream. Younger guys like that tend to be in their peak ‘fun’ years, not LTR mode.”
Jova:
“That’s just a limiting belief, Norma. If I want a Chadlite, I’ll hold out until I find one.”
“See, this is what I’m talking about—Jordan Barrett, Sean O’Pry, David Gandy. Why settle when guys like this exist?”
Fernanda:
“Jova, those guys are literally supermodels. How realistic is it to find someone like that who’s looking for an everyday relationship?”
Debora:
“Exactly! They’re gorgeous, but these men have entire careers based on their looks.”
Jova:
“Look, most Chads aren’t models or influencers. Good-looking guys exist who aren’t in the limelight. They’re out there if you actually have high standards.”
Norma:
“Seriously, Jova? Most guys who look like that don’t live low-key lives. It sounds like a setup for disappointment.”
Debora:
“Exactly. Finding an off-the-radar guy who looks like a model and wants a committed relationship sounds like a fantasy.”
Hilary:
“If these guys exist, they’re rare, and they get noticed. They don’t lead low-key lives.”
Jova:
“You all sound jaded. Just because you’re used to settling doesn’t mean I’m unrealistic. There are good-looking guys out there without the influencer life.”
Pilar:
“It’s not about settling; it’s about not chasing an impossible ideal.”
Jova:
“If he’s high-tier, that just proves he’s desirable. I’m not insecure and can hold my own. I’d rather wait than settle for average.”
Norma:
“Finding a young, attractive guy who’s commitment-minded? That’s a dream. Younger guys like that tend to be in their peak ‘fun’ years, not LTR mode.”
Jova:
“That’s just a limiting belief, Norma. If I want a Chadlite, I’ll hold out until I find one.”
Helene Joins the Chat
Helene:
“Lmfao, are you all trying to gaslight Jova into dating some Norwood 5 ‘dad bod’ MTN? Just because y’all are mogged out of the dating pool doesn’t mean she has to lower her standards.”
Fernanda:
“No one’s telling her to date a ‘Norwood 5.’ We’re just saying her standards might be a bit… unrealistic.”
Helene:
“Unrealistic? Please. You’re just beaten down enough to accept any LTN who pays you attention. Jova wants a Chadlite or Chad, and there’s nothing wrong with that.”
Hilary:
“That’s rude, Helene. We’re just talking about compatibility and real life, not everything is about ‘Chads’ and ‘mogging.’”
Helene:
“Y’all call it ‘compatibility,’ but that’s just code for ‘I couldn’t get a Chad, so I settled.’ Admit it, you all wish you had a Chadlite but settled because you don’t have the guts to hold out for what you want.”
Norma:
“Helene, we’re just saying Jova’s standards might set her up for disappointment.”
Helene:
“Disappointment? The only disappointment is all of you wifing up LTNs and MTNs. Y’all are so desperate you’ve convinced yourselves settling is noble.”
Lidia:
“It’s not about impressing anyone, Helene. We want people who treat us well and make us happy. Maybe you should try looking for that instead of judging everyone’s looks.”
Helene:
“Oh please. That’s just code for ‘I couldn’t get a Chad, so I settled.’ Y’all are so used to settling you don’t know what real standards are anymore.”
Jova:
“Thank you, Helene. They keep acting like I’m delusional just because I don’t want some random MTN.”
Fernanda:
“Helene, we’re not jealous. We just want realistic expectations. We don’t want Jova to get hurt or disappointed.”
Helene:
“‘Realistic’ is just code for ‘settling.’ You’re all so insecure and bitter that you can’t handle someone actually aiming high.”
Norma:
“Goodbye, Helene. I hope one day you realize real relationships don’t work this way. You’re setting yourselves up for failure, but that’s your choice.”
Helene:
“Yeah, keep your life lessons. I’ll be out here aiming high while you all rot with your boring, high-inhib choices.”
Helene:
“Lmfao, are you all trying to gaslight Jova into dating some Norwood 5 ‘dad bod’ MTN? Just because y’all are mogged out of the dating pool doesn’t mean she has to lower her standards.”
Fernanda:
“No one’s telling her to date a ‘Norwood 5.’ We’re just saying her standards might be a bit… unrealistic.”
Helene:
“Unrealistic? Please. You’re just beaten down enough to accept any LTN who pays you attention. Jova wants a Chadlite or Chad, and there’s nothing wrong with that.”
Hilary:
“That’s rude, Helene. We’re just talking about compatibility and real life, not everything is about ‘Chads’ and ‘mogging.’”
Helene:
“Y’all call it ‘compatibility,’ but that’s just code for ‘I couldn’t get a Chad, so I settled.’ Admit it, you all wish you had a Chadlite but settled because you don’t have the guts to hold out for what you want.”
Norma:
“Helene, we’re just saying Jova’s standards might set her up for disappointment.”
Helene:
“Disappointment? The only disappointment is all of you wifing up LTNs and MTNs. Y’all are so desperate you’ve convinced yourselves settling is noble.”
Lidia:
“It’s not about impressing anyone, Helene. We want people who treat us well and make us happy. Maybe you should try looking for that instead of judging everyone’s looks.”
Helene:
“Oh please. That’s just code for ‘I couldn’t get a Chad, so I settled.’ Y’all are so used to settling you don’t know what real standards are anymore.”
Jova:
“Thank you, Helene. They keep acting like I’m delusional just because I don’t want some random MTN.”
Fernanda:
“Helene, we’re not jealous. We just want realistic expectations. We don’t want Jova to get hurt or disappointed.”
Helene:
“‘Realistic’ is just code for ‘settling.’ You’re all so insecure and bitter that you can’t handle someone actually aiming high.”
Norma:
“Goodbye, Helene. I hope one day you realize real relationships don’t work this way. You’re setting yourselves up for failure, but that’s your choice.”
Helene:
“Yeah, keep your life lessons. I’ll be out here aiming high while you all rot with your boring, high-inhib choices.”
Tuesday
Helene:
“And another thing—this whole obsession with dating older guys? It’s such a joke. Why are you all so eager to go for these 5+ years older dudes who look like they’re already aging out? It’s just sad.”
Norma:
“Why do you have an issue with age gaps, Helene? Most people don’t see a problem with dating a bit older. It’s more about maturity, stability, and shared life goals.”
Jova:
“No, I get what Helene means. I want someone around my age, or even a bit younger if he’s got that youthful, fresh look. Older guys just seem like they’re past their prime, and I’m not into dating my ‘unc.’”
Pilar:
“Look, if you’re vibing with someone older, what’s the harm? Age isn’t always a dealbreaker, especially when they bring life experience and maturity to the table.”
Helene:
“Experience? Half the time, ‘experience’ just means they’ve been through a bunch of mediocre relationships and are now on the decline. Why date someone with all this ‘baggage’ when you can find a younger, fresher guy who isn’t jaded yet?”
Hilary:
“But younger guys can be immature. I don’t want to date a guy in his mid-20s who’s still figuring himself out. I’d rather date someone who’s settled, even if he’s older.”
Jova:
“That’s an insecure take, Hilary. Younger doesn’t automatically mean immature. I know how to handle a guy a few years younger, and if he’s attractive and committed, I’ll take that over an ‘older stable man’ any day. Most ‘older guys’ are just trying to lock down someone before they fully age out, anyway.”
Debora:
“Are you two seriously implying that anyone who dates a guy over 30 is ‘insecure’? This is just another excuse to impose ridiculous standards.”
Helene:
“Not insecurity, Debora—just reality. You Millennials think older guys offer security, but they’re usually just hitting a midlife crisis and looking for a last-ditch ego boost. Meanwhile, younger guys have the looks and, if they’re Chadlite level, they don’t have that baggage.”
Pilar:
“Come on, not every older guy is some washed-up dude with ‘baggage.’ And who says younger guys don’t come with their own set of issues? Age shouldn’t be this big a factor if you’re compatible.”
Aletta:
“I get where they’re coming from, though. If you’re dating someone older, you’re risking ending up with someone who looks like he could be your dad in a few years. I’d rather date my age or younger too.”
Norma:
“But that’s limiting yourself! My partner is a few years older, and we’re a great match. It’s not about settling; it’s about finding someone who shares your values and life goals.”
Jova:
“See, that’s exactly it. You’ve convinced yourself that the age gap is somehow a ‘good thing.’ But if you had options, you’d pick someone who looks young and is close to your age. It’s that ‘bluepill’ mindset that older men are automatically ‘better’ just because they’ve been around longer.”
Hilary:
“It’s not about thinking they’re ‘better.’ It’s about valuing maturity and stability. Some of us find that with older guys. Doesn’t mean we’re insecure or settling.”
Helene:
“Y’all can keep clinging to these ‘stable, mature’ men if it makes you feel secure. But don’t come for us just because we don’t want a guy who’s going gray or balding by 35. I’ll wait for a youthful Chadlite who can actually keep up.”
Pilar:
“You’re setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think you’re going to find this perfect ‘youthful, stable Chadlite’ who’s also magically ready for commitment.”
Helene:
“And that’s just your cope talking, Pilar. Just because you think younger guys are ‘unrealistic’ doesn’t mean they are. I’m not about to lock myself down with someone who looks like he’s aging out of the dating pool. I’d rather take my chances on someone who’s still fresh.”
Helene:
“And another thing—this whole obsession with dating older guys? It’s such a joke. Why are you all so eager to go for these 5+ years older dudes who look like they’re already aging out? It’s just sad.”
Norma:
“Why do you have an issue with age gaps, Helene? Most people don’t see a problem with dating a bit older. It’s more about maturity, stability, and shared life goals.”
Jova:
“No, I get what Helene means. I want someone around my age, or even a bit younger if he’s got that youthful, fresh look. Older guys just seem like they’re past their prime, and I’m not into dating my ‘unc.’”
Pilar:
“Look, if you’re vibing with someone older, what’s the harm? Age isn’t always a dealbreaker, especially when they bring life experience and maturity to the table.”
Helene:
“Experience?
Half the time, ‘experience’ just means they’ve been through a bunch of mediocre relationships and are now on the decline. Why date someone with all this ‘baggage’ when you can find a younger, fresher guy who isn’t jaded yet?”Hilary:
“But younger guys can be immature. I don’t want to date a guy in his mid-20s who’s still figuring himself out. I’d rather date someone who’s settled, even if he’s older.”
Jova:
“That’s an insecure take, Hilary. Younger doesn’t automatically mean immature. I know how to handle a guy a few years younger, and if he’s attractive and committed, I’ll take that over an ‘older stable man’ any day. Most ‘older guys’ are just trying to lock down someone before they fully age out, anyway.”
Debora:
“Are you two seriously implying that anyone who dates a guy over 30 is ‘insecure’? This is just another excuse to impose ridiculous standards.”
Helene:
“Not insecurity, Debora—just reality. You Millennials think older guys offer security, but they’re usually just hitting a midlife crisis and looking for a last-ditch ego boost. Meanwhile, younger guys have the looks and, if they’re Chadlite level, they don’t have that baggage.”
Pilar:
“Come on, not every older guy is some washed-up dude with ‘baggage.’ And who says younger guys don’t come with their own set of issues? Age shouldn’t be this big a factor if you’re compatible.”
Aletta:
“I get where they’re coming from, though. If you’re dating someone older, you’re risking ending up with someone who looks like he could be your dad in a few years. I’d rather date my age or younger too.”
Norma:
“But that’s limiting yourself! My partner is a few years older, and we’re a great match. It’s not about settling; it’s about finding someone who shares your values and life goals.”
Jova:
“See, that’s exactly it. You’ve convinced yourself that the age gap is somehow a ‘good thing.’ But if you had options, you’d pick someone who looks young and is close to your age. It’s that ‘bluepill’ mindset that older men are automatically ‘better’ just because they’ve been around longer.”
Hilary:
“It’s not about thinking they’re ‘better.’ It’s about valuing maturity and stability. Some of us find that with older guys. Doesn’t mean we’re insecure or settling.”
Helene:
“Y’all can keep clinging to these ‘stable, mature’ men if it makes you feel secure. But don’t come for us just because we don’t want a guy who’s going gray or balding by 35. I’ll wait for a youthful Chadlite who can actually keep up.”
Pilar:
“You’re setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think you’re going to find this perfect ‘youthful, stable Chadlite’ who’s also magically ready for commitment.”
Helene:
“And that’s just your cope talking, Pilar. Just because you think younger guys are ‘unrealistic’ doesn’t mean they are. I’m not about to lock myself down with someone who looks like he’s aging out of the dating pool. I’d rather take my chances on someone who’s still fresh.”
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LTR outcomes
| Character | Partner | Partner's Looks Level | Description | Marriage Outcome | Description | ||
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| Helene | Isaac | Chad | Isaac is Chad-level attractive, fitting Helene’s intense standards. While he finds her hierarchy-driven worldview amusing, he’s laid-back and grounds her when she becomes overly intense. Although not deeply into hypergamy theories, his looks satisfy Helene’s expectations without compromise. | Married |
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| Jova | Xavier | Chadlite | Jova’s Chadlite partner, Xavier, is slightly younger and matches her high standards in looks. Attractive, fit, and aligned with her Zoomer aesthetic, he’s been guided into an LTR without overwhelming traditional expectations. Xavier appreciates her high standards, finding them flattering rather than intimidating. | Married | Jova’s calculated approach, paired with her "virgin” framing, guided Xavier, a younger Chadlite, into commitment. Her intense focus on appearance and methodical standards ensured he felt attracted and committed without feeling pressured. | ||
| Fernanda | Douglas | MTN | Douglas is an MTN with above-average looks and a creative career. Laid-back and compatible with Fernanda’s free spirit, he respects her need for independence and space, creating a flexible, non-traditional relationship. | Cohabitating, not married | Fernanda’s free-spirited nature and Douglas’s creative, independent lifestyle align well, resulting in a cohabitating, low-pressure relationship that values space and independence over traditional commitment. | ||
| Debora | Simon | MTN | Simon, a stable MTN in his late 30s, aligns with Debora’s need for commitment and ambition. Though not exceptionally attractive, his maturity and career-oriented mindset provide the stability Debora seeks for her long-term goals. | Married | Debora’s strategic approach paired her with Simon, a stable and ambitious partner in his late 30s, aligning with her desire for long-term stability. Their practical marriage suits her financial and stability-focused goals. | ||
| Hilary | Lowell | MTN | Lowell, an intelligent MTN climbing the corporate ladder, appeals to Hilary’s preference for ambition. Their relationship is grounded in shared career goals, providing intellectual stimulation, though it lacks the intense physical attraction Jova and Helene prioritize. | Married | Hilary’s preference for ambition and intelligence is matched by Lowell’s corporate trajectory. They prioritize intellectual compatibility, forming a practical, career-focused marriage. | ||
| Lidia | Julio | LTN | Julio, an LTN who is family-oriented and warm, values personal connections over ambition or looks. His nurturing nature aligns with Lidia’s priorities, providing her a fulfilling, emotionally compatible relationship focused on family. | Married | Lidia’s nurturing nature aligns with Julio, a family-oriented LTN. Their marriage prioritizes emotional connection and traditional values, creating a fulfilling, family-focused union. | ||
| Norma | Vance | MTN | Norma’s partner, Vance, is an MTN financial analyst who values a traditional family structure. While not highly attractive, his stability and discipline provide the financial security Norma desires, fitting her high standards for stability without Chadlite-level looks. | Married | Norma’s desire for stability leads her to Vance, a financially secure MTN. Their marriage centers around shared values of prudence and traditional family structure, providing the secure relationship Norma values. | ||
| Pilar | Irwin | MTN | Irwin, a fun-loving MTN, shares Pilar’s vibrant lifestyle. Focused on enjoying the present, their relationship is spontaneous and creative, with a mutual respect for each other's free-spirited approach to life rather than strict future planning. | Long-Term Relationship, likely not married | Pilar and Irwin’s shared spontaneity and creativity foster a low-pressure, adventurous relationship focused on enjoying the present rather than planning for the future. | ||
| Aletta | Max | MTN | Max, an MTN with a shared interest in social media, enjoys the validation that comes with their high-status image. Their relationship focuses on mutual attention and online presence, prioritizing social image over deeper compatibility. | Public Relationship, possibly married for social image | Aletta and Max bond over mutual social media attention, forming a public relationship that emphasizes social status and image over depth, catering to their attention-seeking behaviors. | ||
| Carlotta | Greg | MTN | Greg, an ambitious MTN in a white-collar job, meets Carlotta’s desire for stability and social respect. Though not exceptionally attractive, he provides the upward mobility and secure lifestyle Carlotta values. | Married | Carlotta’s ambition for stability aligns with Greg’s dependable, career-oriented approach, forming a practical marriage that meets her desire for upward mobility and social respect. | ||
| Emilia | Ram | MTN | Ram, an MTN with a quiet, steady personality, contrasts Emilia’s ex-party girl past. His responsible nature provides a grounding, respectful relationship that allows Emilia to feel secure and accepted. | Married | Emilia’s past as an ex-party girl is balanced by Ram’s calm, responsible nature, creating a secure, stable relationship focused on mutual respect and grounding stability. | ||
| Gilma | Kenneth | MTN | Kenneth, an MTN in a white-collar role, values tradition and stability, aligning with Gilma’s ambitions for a secure, long-term future. Practical and reliable, he meets her high standards for stability and shared goals without thrilling adventure. | Married | Gilma’s ambition for stability matches Kenneth’s traditional, practical approach. Their marriage, rooted in shared values of reliability and long-term planning, meets her need for a structured, stable partnership. |
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