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Helene, a highly meticulous and aesthetics-obsessed 25-year-old, returns to her Quebec hometown after grad school with one clear mission: to find her ideal Chad or Chadlite. She dismisses all other men for not meeting her strict criteria, focusing instead on studying facial features and mating dynamics she learned from 4chan and other online spaces. Helene’s strategy revolves around calculated social movements, particularly in Montreal’s scene, while scoping out potential matches like Isaac at the gym. Despite her parents’ concerns, she remains committed to her methodical search, determined not to settle.

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Chapter 1: The Hunt Begins​

Helene (high MTB, Daria pheno) stood by the window of her childhood room, overlooking the quiet suburban streets of her hometown in Quebec. It was early October, and the chill in the air hinted at the harsh winter to come. She was 25 now, back from grad school with her degree, but the real challenge lay ahead: finding her ideal match, a Chad or Chadlite who met her highly specific criteria.

For as long as she could remember, Helene had been obsessed with the details—precise measurements of jawlines, the exact angles that made high cheekbones truly “pop” under soft lighting, and the subtle musculature that defined the perfect masculine silhouette. She had spent years on 4chan, reading about facial aesthetics, life outcomes, and the brutal reality of mating markets. She knew the theories inside and out, how hypergamy worked, and the evolutionary psychology that made her different from the women she often scoffed at.

Yet, while many women used social media to show off their relationships or the highlights of their social lives, Helene had chosen another path. She refused to settle for anything less than a top-tier face. During her time in college and grad school, she turned down every man who approached her. She dismissed the normies, the high-tier normies (HTNs), and even the occasional guy who hovered on the edge of Chadlite territory but didn’t quite make the cut. Most of them had soft features, or noses that were slightly too big, or chins that lacked that chiseled edge she craved. Some were simply too eager, too easily impressed by her, and she found that repellent.

Her mother, Francine, had often tried to give gentle advice. "You can’t be so picky forever, ma belle," Francine would say, her accent thick with the musical cadence of Quebecois French. But Helene would just roll her eyes. Her mother’s suggestions came from a different world, a different time. Francine had married Gordon, an Anglo-Canadian with a decent but unremarkable face. Helene wanted more. She was convinced she could do better, that the rigorous criteria she maintained would eventually pay off.

And now, she had time—time and freedom, even if it came with the quiet desperation that gnawed at the edges of her thoughts. She lived with her parents for now, a temporary arrangement she convinced herself would help her save money and avoid the distractions of Montreal's nightlife. The city had its allure, but she wasn’t about to be just another girl chasing unattainable dreams. Instead, she was going to play this game strategically, using her knowledge and her patience as her weapons.

Montreal: The Calculated Approach​

Montreal was only an hour’s drive away, a city filled with possibilities but also fierce competition. Helene was acutely aware of the types of women she would encounter there—women with effortless style, perfect makeup, and bodies sculpted by hours at the gym. They knew how to angle their phones just right for that subtle but suggestive gym mirror selfie. Helene was not blind to their strategies. She had spent countless hours analyzing their Instagram feeds, dissecting the subtle cues they used to attract attention.

But she didn’t fear them. If anything, she saw them as predictable, their tactics transparent. She knew she wouldn’t win in a battle of typical femininity—she wasn’t curvy, her fashion sense was often utilitarian rather than trendy, and her face, though striking in a certain light, lacked the harmony of conventional beauty. But what she did have was a sharp mind and a determination that bordered on obsession.

Helene knew that Montreal’s scene was not to be discounted, but it wasn’t going to be her primary hunting ground. Instead, she would take calculated trips, attending select events where her odds were better, where the crowd leaned more toward international students or young professionals who valued intellect. Art galleries, certain academic lectures, niche meetups. She even entertained the thought of the occasional upscale club, though she despised the thought of mingling with women she saw as competition.

But for now, she focused on the local gyms in her hometown. She had already scoped out a few of them, noting the times when the more athletic and aesthetically pleasing men would come in. One of them—Isaac—caught her eye immediately. He wasn’t a Chad, but he had the potential to be at least a Chadlite. A face with angular features, a strong jawline, and an intense focus during his workouts. Helene took mental notes each time she saw him, tracking his routine and evaluating his body’s progress over the weeks. His approach to the gym was methodical, something she respected.

She wouldn’t make her move yet. Helene had no intention of engaging directly with Isaac until she was sure of a few things: his social media presence, his romantic history, and whether he was the kind who could appreciate her uniqueness or if he was just like every other man, looking for the easy validation of more conventional beauties.

Life at Home​

Back at home, Francine and Gordon observed their daughter’s meticulous ways with a mixture of concern and exasperation. Francine, a kind-hearted woman with a streak of pragmatism, often urged her daughter to think about her future beyond this singular focus. Gordon, quieter and more reserved, sensed that there was little he could do to change Helene’s mind once she had set her sights on something.

“Maybe you should focus on work for a while, Helene,” Gordon suggested one evening, his voice calm as he sipped his tea. “You have a good education, and you don’t need a relationship to define you.”

Helene’s response was quick, almost cutting. “It’s not about being defined by someone else, Dad. It’s about finding someone who’s worth it. Why should I settle for less when I’ve waited this long?”

Francine looked at her with a mixture of sadness and frustration. “Ma belle, you’re not giving yourself a chance to see what else could make you happy. The perfect man... he might not exist.”

Helene didn’t respond to that. She knew they wouldn’t understand. They didn’t see the world the way she did. In her mind, she had a clear idea of what she wanted and what she deserved. And if it took a few years of calculated effort, so be it. She was prepared to wait, to plan, and to execute her strategy carefully.

In the evenings, she’d sit at her laptop, browsing social media profiles, lurking on 4chan, Reddit and Discord, and learning more about men like Isaac—how they thought, what they valued, and what made them commit. She noted which types of women they followed, what kinds of interactions they had, and how they responded to certain comments. She would figure out the pattern, decode the signals, and then make her move when the timing was right.

She wasn’t anxious, but she was realistic. Helene knew that as she approached her late twenties, the window was closing. Women in their early twenties had an easier time attracting these men, and she was aware of how much that mattered. But Helene believed she had an edge. She was willing to play the long game, to study her targets like she would a complex academic problem, and to wait for the right moment to strike.

The Waiting Game​

So, for now, Helene waited, watching the world around her, preparing for the moves she would make. She knew that it wouldn’t be easy, but she also knew that the right match—one that met her exacting standards—was worth every ounce of effort.

And if she felt a twinge of loneliness on quiet nights in her old bedroom, she pushed it down, reminding herself of the goal. She wouldn’t let herself slip into bitterness, but she wouldn’t abandon her high standards either. After all, she had spent too many years studying this game to back down now.

Helene was ready for the next chapter, knowing full well that every decision she made would shape her path. And with each calculated step, she inched closer to the elusive ideal she had been searching for all along.


Chapter 2: The Digital Hunt​

Helene’s life had become a carefully orchestrated routine. Weekdays were for work—she held a remote job, one of those roles that paid well but offered little excitement. But it gave her freedom, which she valued more than anything else. Every two weeks, she’d make the drive into Montreal for her in-office day, and she’d use these opportunities to sharpen her social instincts, though she rarely lingered. The city was a hunting ground, but she didn’t want to blend into the mass of young women who filled the cafes, bars, and art galleries.

Her weekends, however, were where she put her real efforts. From the outside, she maintained an air of disinterest in social media. Her Instagram had barely a dozen posts—mostly photos of landscapes, her dog, and a couple of moody, carefully curated shots of herself where her unconventional features looked their best. She kept her captions short and detached, nothing that hinted at loneliness or a desperate search for connection.

But behind the scenes, Helene had developed a new strategy. She had long accepted that while her face might be striking in certain lighting, it wasn’t enough to stand out in a competitive world where women were constantly morphing, tweaking, and refining their looks to attract top-tier men. Her time in the darker corners of the internet, lurking on forums and watching TikTok trends, had taught her that beauty was a game of inches. So, she turned to FaceApp, using its tools to subtly morph her photos before uploading them onto dating apps. A slightly sharper jawline, a little lift to the cheeks, a touch of symmetry to her smile—nothing too drastic, but enough to nudge her into a different category of attractiveness.

The Morphing Game​

Helene wasn’t delusional about the process. She knew that most women, especially the ones who effortlessly drew attention from Chads and Chadlites, were doing some form of digital enhancement or, at the very least, leveraging the most flattering angles. She saw it as leveling the playing field rather than cheating. “99% of women morph to get Chad,” she’d tell herself, rationalizing the time she spent perfecting each image.

She never used the morphed photos in her professional life or for anything that would tie back to her real identity. Her profiles on dating apps like Bumble, Hinge, and even niche Discord servers were carefully curated. She made sure to include just a few of these edited photos alongside pictures that were closer to her natural look—an attempt to manage expectations while still drawing attention. Her bios were minimalist, offering a touch of wit but nothing that signaled desperation. No mention of wanting a long-term relationship or marriage—she knew that this kind of signaling was a red flag to men who could sniff out anxious attachment.

Navigating the Apps and Discords​

The dating apps were a mixed bag. Helene swiped selectively, taking her time to research each match. If she matched with a Chad or Chadlite, she’d move with caution, keeping the conversation light and never asking too much. It was a tightrope walk—just enough interest to keep them engaged but not so much that she seemed like one of the many women clamoring for their attention.

She also used the apps in an unconventional way, matching with women too. These interactions weren’t romantic; they were part of her calculated effort to build a social network that could open new doors. She’d initiate conversations with a casual comment about music or local events, and from there, she’d gauge whether they could become useful allies—friends or acquaintances who might help her navigate the social scene. Through these connections, she learned about events that weren’t advertised widely, underground parties where the crowds skewed toward the attractive and the well-connected, or lesser-known bars that catered to Montreal’s creative elite.

On Discord, she joined servers focused on art, niche interests, and even some more relationship-focused channels where people shared their unfiltered thoughts. She listened more than she spoke, picking up on the nuances of what men found attractive, what turned them off, and how they responded to different types of interactions. It was like reading the playbook from the other team, and Helene took notes.

Encounters and Setbacks​

Throughout this process, Helene was aware of the dynamics that could work against her. She had read enough to understand how easily women could be trapped in the “pump and dump” cycle, especially when dating men who had no shortage of options. She knew that desperation was a scent—something men could pick up on even when hidden behind casual conversation. So, she practiced restraint, never letting herself come across as eager or too available.

Still, there were setbacks. A few months in, she matched with Rafael—a Chadlite who had the classic, angular features she admired. He had the gym-polished physique, a symmetrical smile, and a certain self-assuredness that made him stand out from her other matches. For weeks, they exchanged messages that bordered on flirtatious, and Helene thought she might have found a potential target.

But one night, while scrolling through his Instagram, she noticed that he had been tagged in photos with a handful of local influencers. She saw the pattern—pictures of parties, cozy group shots with beautiful women. Helene knew the signs of a man who enjoyed being surrounded by attention, and she quickly cooled her responses. Soon enough, Rafael stopped replying altogether, and she wasn’t surprised.

It stung, but Helene pushed through it. “This is part of the process,” she told herself. She wasn’t naive enough to believe that she’d find the right match on the first try. She took the rejection as another data point, another lesson in how the game worked. It only reinforced her belief that she couldn’t afford to let her guard down or settle for anyone who didn’t fit her exacting standards.

Finding Isaac​

Then, on a cold Saturday morning at a gym just outside of Montreal, she spotted Isaac. He was new—clearly not one of the regulars she had been observing for months. Isaac wasn’t a full Chad by the standards she’d developed, but he had potential. He was around her age, with a face that was somewhere between classic handsome and pretty boy—high cheekbones, a defined jawline, but with a softness to his expression that made him approachable. And more importantly, his body was on point—muscular but not overly bulky, athletic without looking like he lived in the gym.

Helene played it cool, taking note of his routine over the next few weeks. She’d work out nearby, timing her sets to match his, but never initiating conversation. She observed his habits, noting when he seemed most focused and when he appeared more open to social interaction. She found out, through casual chatter with the gym staff, that he had recently moved back from Ontario for a job in finance. This gave her a point of reference, a potential conversation starter for when the time was right.

After a few weeks, Helene finally broke the silence with a casual comment about the equipment. It wasn’t much, but Isaac responded with a smile, and from there, a slow but steady rapport began to form. She made sure to keep their conversations brief, always ending them first, leaving just enough mystery to keep him interested.

The Breakthrough​

It took months, but eventually, Isaac asked her out for coffee after a workout. Helene accepted with a nonchalance she didn’t entirely feel, and they met at a small café on the edge of town. The conversation flowed more easily than she expected—he was curious about her background, her studies, and her thoughts on life in Quebec. She made sure to ask him questions too, but always kept a slight distance, never letting her interest seem too eager.

Isaac mentioned that he had noticed her profile on a dating app before they’d spoken at the gym. Helene felt a pang of anxiety at the thought that he might have noticed the subtle morphing in her photos, but he didn’t bring it up, and she dismissed it as paranoia.

As the weeks went by, they began to spend more time together—walks, casual dinners, a few late-night conversations. Helene maintained her boundaries, keeping the physical side of their relationship at a distance for now. She knew that rushing into intimacy could tip the balance too far, too soon. Isaac seemed to respect this, or at least he didn’t press the issue.

And yet, Helene knew that she was navigating a fine line. She had to be strategic, playing up the unique qualities that might set her apart from the more conventionally attractive women Isaac could have easily pursued. She focused on their shared interests, her wit, and the subtle ways she could hint at a future without making herself appear desperate.

The Turning Point​

It wasn’t until one evening, after a long dinner in the city, that Isaac looked at her with an intensity she hadn’t seen before. They had walked along the waterfront, talking about everything from Quebec’s changing culture to the frustrations of remote work. And as they sat on a bench overlooking the dark water, he told her he wanted to get to know her better, that he hadn’t met anyone quite like her before.

Helene, ever cautious, tempered her response. But she allowed herself a small smile, feeling the shift in the air between them. She knew this wasn’t the end of the chase, but it was a significant step—a sign that her calculated strategy was paying off.


Chapter 3: Calculated Risks and Backup Plans​

Helene knew better than to rely on a single outcome. The nights she spent obsessing over facial symmetry, reading up on the mating dynamics between Chads and normies, had instilled a sense of realism in her. She understood the game was rigged, that no matter how many strategies she deployed, there was always a chance things could fall apart with Isaac. While she enjoyed their dates and the slow progression of their relationship, she kept her expectations tempered. Isaac was a potential win, but not the only path forward.

She also understood that even with her strategies and morphed images, she was playing from a position of disadvantage compared to women who met the beauty standard effortlessly. To maintain her sanity, she made sure she had more options—potential fallback plans that she kept in her back pocket, not for infidelity, but as a safety net in case things with Isaac went south. She was cautious, not impulsive, and every move she made had a purpose.

Expanding Her Reach​

Weekends remained her hunting grounds, but Helene expanded her reach beyond the gym where she met Isaac. She made occasional trips to Montreal, visiting the art galleries and academic talks she’d identified earlier. She’d chat casually with strangers about the latest exhibit or the themes of a lecture, offering just enough charm to leave a positive impression without ever appearing overeager. Her small town outside Montreal didn’t provide much in terms of social circles, so these calculated visits were her way of dipping a toe into the larger pond while keeping her distance from the typical party scenes she despised.

She knew exactly what she was looking for—she had a type, an archetype, and she stuck to it with almost clinical precision. Men who had the classic handsome features she favored: well-defined cheekbones, a jawline that could cast shadows, and a body that was lean but muscular. She wasn’t interested in the more polished types who might become influencers or the rugged gym bros who lacked the kind of finesse she craved. She sought the refined, those who looked like they might belong in a high-end cologne ad rather than a TikTok thirst trap.

The Apps: A Subtle Second Front​

Helene continued using dating apps, but she was careful not to let her presence there overlap too much with her life in the real world. Her profiles were tailored to be as unobtrusive as possible—photos that hinted at her personality but never gave too much away, a short bio that mentioned her interest in niche art and music, but nothing that could be used to trace her back to her hometown. She used different apps for different purposes, keeping one profile more polished for the likes of Hinge, where she might find men with more stable jobs, and another for Tinder, where she kept the approach more casual. However, she was keeping her virginity intact until marriage.

She was strategic in her approach to matching. If she came across a man who fit her archetype—say, a well-groomed guy with a jawline that screamed Chadlite—she’d swipe right, but she never made the first move. She wanted them to feel like they were chasing her, not the other way around. And if they didn’t reach out first, she’d simply move on, unbothered. Helene had a strict no-doubles rule: if a match didn’t message her within a certain time frame, she’d unmatch and delete the conversation.

Some of these matches led to brief conversations, but she was quick to vet them. If their interests seemed too focused on partying or if they hinted too quickly at physical interactions, she’d cut things off. She knew the signs of men looking for a pump and dump scenario, and she wasn’t about to waste her time. Instead, she sought out those who seemed genuinely curious about her thoughts on art, who asked about her work, or who showed some intellectual depth.

Discord and Digital Spaces​

Her presence on Discord continued to be a low-key but valuable part of her strategy. On a server focused on Montreal’s cultural scene, she met a few men who caught her attention, though most of them lived in the city and had little interest in the quieter life of Quebec’s outskirts. One in particular, Sebastien, intrigued her—a 30-year-old photographer with a laid-back attitude and a profile photo that hinted at a strong bone structure, the kind that could have landed him a modeling gig if he’d been more ambitious.

They messaged back and forth sporadically, discussing Montreal’s changing art scene and the best hidden spots for coffee. Helene appreciated that Sebastien wasn’t pushy; he was content with the slow pace of their conversations, and he didn’t seem overly interested in meeting up right away. It was exactly the kind of backup connection she was looking for—something that could develop into more if things with Isaac fizzled out.

Sebastien wasn’t a priority; he was a potential. Helene treated these digital connections like investments—she cultivated them lightly, never letting them take up too much of her time but ensuring they had room to grow if needed. She felt a small thrill at the idea that she was keeping multiple options open without needing to fully commit to any one of them.

Juggling Isaac and the Shadows​

In the meantime, her dates with Isaac continued. They’d found a rhythm that Helene felt comfortable with—weekend coffee dates, occasional evenings spent walking through parks, and a few dinners where they tested each other’s taste in restaurants. She learned that he appreciated the little quirks about her—her bluntness, her habit of going on long rants about certain art styles, and even her refusal to follow mainstream trends. It was an intimacy she was learning to enjoy, but she kept her guard up.

Isaac hadn’t made any overt moves toward physical intimacy beyond a few kisses, and Helene knew that this was in part due to how she had set the pace. She felt a sense of power in being able to dictate the terms, even if it meant that she sometimes caught herself wondering whether he was losing patience. But until he said otherwise, she assumed he was content with the way things were.

Still, she couldn’t help but occasionally feel the pressure of time, the reminder that at 25, she was no longer in the prime window that many men—especially Chads and Chadlites—sought out. This was part of why she maintained her secret plan, keeping other options in play. It wasn’t that she wanted to betray Isaac’s trust; she simply knew that she couldn’t afford to put all her hopes on him. If he eventually lost interest or decided he wanted something simpler, she needed to be ready to pivot.

Thoughts of Morphing​

On some nights, as she scrolled through her photos on FaceApp, Helene found herself thinking about how much of this process relied on appearances. She knew her natural look was a hurdle, one that she had to finesse with every little edit and angle. “99% of women morph to get Chad,” she repeated to herself, staring at the slightly altered image of her own face, where her jawline looked a little more refined and her smile a bit more symmetrical. She wondered if Isaac would notice the difference if he compared the photos on her dating profile to the way she looked in person. So far, he hadn’t mentioned anything, and she took that as a sign that she had balanced the edits well enough.

Helene never considered plastic surgery—she knew it would change the subtlety of her look, make her appear more manufactured rather than the enigmatic intellectual she tried to project. Morphing was different; it was a layer of illusion, a mask she could take off when needed. And as long as she could keep her face hidden behind that digital mask, she’d use it to her advantage.

A New Encounter​

One chilly Saturday afternoon, Helene attended a small art event in a gallery on the outskirts of Montreal. She went alone, dressed in her usual subdued style—dark jeans, a fitted sweater, and a slightly oversized coat that hinted at her slender frame without clinging too tightly. Her glasses rested on her nose, giving her an academic air that she knew some men found appealing.

She didn’t expect much from the event, but halfway through, she caught sight of a new face—Arthur. He was taller than most of the crowd, with a classic handsome face that was all sharp angles and a full head of neatly styled hair. He looked out of place among the older art enthusiasts, his presence commanding the room in a way that suggested he wasn’t used to blending in.

Helene watched him from across the gallery, observing the way he moved and spoke with others. He carried himself with a quiet confidence, and she noted the way he occasionally scanned the room, as if assessing who might be worth his time.

It was a game she knew well.

She approached him casually, making a remark about one of the abstract pieces on the wall—something about how it reminded her of the 1980s wave of industrial art. Arthur smiled, the kind of smile that revealed a slight dimple on one side of his otherwise chiseled face. They chatted for a while, and Helene felt a small thrill as she noticed him leaning in slightly, his focus shifting entirely onto her.

She wouldn’t rush this one either. Arthur might become another potential, someone to keep in her orbit while she continued her slow burn with Isaac. As they exchanged numbers, Helene couldn’t help but feel a quiet satisfaction.

It was all part of the plan.
 
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Chapter 1: The Hunt Begins​

Helene (high MTB, Daria pheno) stood by the window of her childhood room, overlooking the quiet suburban streets of her hometown in Quebec. It was early October, and the chill in the air hinted at the harsh winter to come. She was 25 now, back from grad school with her degree, but the real challenge lay ahead: finding her ideal match, a Chad or Chadlite who met her highly specific criteria.

For as long as she could remember, Helene had been obsessed with the details—precise measurements of jawlines, the exact angles that made high cheekbones truly “pop” under soft lighting, and the subtle musculature that defined the perfect masculine silhouette. She had spent years on 4chan, reading about facial aesthetics, life outcomes, and the brutal reality of mating markets. She knew the theories inside and out, how hypergamy worked, and the evolutionary psychology that made her different from the women she often scoffed at.

Yet, while many women used social media to show off their relationships or the highlights of their social lives, Helene had chosen another path. She refused to settle for anything less than a top-tier face. During her time in college and grad school, she turned down every man who approached her. She dismissed the normies, the high-tier normies (HTNs), and even the occasional guy who hovered on the edge of Chadlite territory but didn’t quite make the cut. Most of them had soft features, or noses that were slightly too big, or chins that lacked that chiseled edge she craved. Some were simply too eager, too easily impressed by her, and she found that repellent.

Her mother, Francine, had often tried to give gentle advice. "You can’t be so picky forever, ma belle," Francine would say, her accent thick with the musical cadence of Quebecois French. But Helene would just roll her eyes. Her mother’s suggestions came from a different world, a different time. Francine had married Gordon, an Anglo-Canadian with a decent but unremarkable face. Helene wanted more. She was convinced she could do better, that the rigorous criteria she maintained would eventually pay off.

And now, she had time—time and freedom, even if it came with the quiet desperation that gnawed at the edges of her thoughts. She lived with her parents for now, a temporary arrangement she convinced herself would help her save money and avoid the distractions of Montreal's nightlife. The city had its allure, but she wasn’t about to be just another girl chasing unattainable dreams. Instead, she was going to play this game strategically, using her knowledge and her patience as her weapons.

Montreal: The Calculated Approach​

Montreal was only an hour’s drive away, a city filled with possibilities but also fierce competition. Helene was acutely aware of the types of women she would encounter there—women with effortless style, perfect makeup, and bodies sculpted by hours at the gym. They knew how to angle their phones just right for that subtle but suggestive gym mirror selfie. Helene was not blind to their strategies. She had spent countless hours analyzing their Instagram feeds, dissecting the subtle cues they used to attract attention.

But she didn’t fear them. If anything, she saw them as predictable, their tactics transparent. She knew she wouldn’t win in a battle of typical femininity—she wasn’t curvy, her fashion sense was often utilitarian rather than trendy, and her face, though striking in a certain light, lacked the harmony of conventional beauty. But what she did have was a sharp mind and a determination that bordered on obsession.

Helene knew that Montreal’s scene was not to be discounted, but it wasn’t going to be her primary hunting ground. Instead, she would take calculated trips, attending select events where her odds were better, where the crowd leaned more toward international students or young professionals who valued intellect. Art galleries, certain academic lectures, niche meetups. She even entertained the thought of the occasional upscale club, though she despised the thought of mingling with women she saw as competition.

But for now, she focused on the local gyms in her hometown. She had already scoped out a few of them, noting the times when the more athletic and aesthetically pleasing men would come in. One of them—Isaac—caught her eye immediately. He wasn’t a Chad, but he had the potential to be at least a Chadlite. A face with angular features, a strong jawline, and an intense focus during his workouts. Helene took mental notes each time she saw him, tracking his routine and evaluating his body’s progress over the weeks. His approach to the gym was methodical, something she respected.

She wouldn’t make her move yet. Helene had no intention of engaging directly with Isaac until she was sure of a few things: his social media presence, his romantic history, and whether he was the kind who could appreciate her uniqueness or if he was just like every other man, looking for the easy validation of more conventional beauties.

Life at Home​

Back at home, Francine and Gordon observed their daughter’s meticulous ways with a mixture of concern and exasperation. Francine, a kind-hearted woman with a streak of pragmatism, often urged her daughter to think about her future beyond this singular focus. Gordon, quieter and more reserved, sensed that there was little he could do to change Helene’s mind once she had set her sights on something.

“Maybe you should focus on work for a while, Helene,” Gordon suggested one evening, his voice calm as he sipped his tea. “You have a good education, and you don’t need a relationship to define you.”

Helene’s response was quick, almost cutting. “It’s not about being defined by someone else, Dad. It’s about finding someone who’s worth it. Why should I settle for less when I’ve waited this long?”

Francine looked at her with a mixture of sadness and frustration. “Ma belle, you’re not giving yourself a chance to see what else could make you happy. The perfect man... he might not exist.”

Helene didn’t respond to that. She knew they wouldn’t understand. They didn’t see the world the way she did. In her mind, she had a clear idea of what she wanted and what she deserved. And if it took a few years of calculated effort, so be it. She was prepared to wait, to plan, and to execute her strategy carefully.

In the evenings, she’d sit at her laptop, browsing social media profiles, lurking on 4chan, Reddit and Discord, and learning more about men like Isaac—how they thought, what they valued, and what made them commit. She noted which types of women they followed, what kinds of interactions they had, and how they responded to certain comments. She would figure out the pattern, decode the signals, and then make her move when the timing was right.

She wasn’t anxious, but she was realistic. Helene knew that as she approached her late twenties, the window was closing. Women in their early twenties had an easier time attracting these men, and she was aware of how much that mattered. But Helene believed she had an edge. She was willing to play the long game, to study her targets like she would a complex academic problem, and to wait for the right moment to strike.

The Waiting Game​

So, for now, Helene waited, watching the world around her, preparing for the moves she would make. She knew that it wouldn’t be easy, but she also knew that the right match—one that met her exacting standards—was worth every ounce of effort.

And if she felt a twinge of loneliness on quiet nights in her old bedroom, she pushed it down, reminding herself of the goal. She wouldn’t let herself slip into bitterness, but she wouldn’t abandon her high standards either. After all, she had spent too many years studying this game to back down now.

Helene was ready for the next chapter, knowing full well that every decision she made would shape her path. And with each calculated step, she inched closer to the elusive ideal she had been searching for all along.
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Here's the outcome:

Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.

Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

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Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

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Nah not really but I doubt helen would get a Chad irl unless she was a Stacy herself
 
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Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.
 
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Oh yeah I guess your right just look at who Taylor hill married
not just her but countless examples.

It seems like hMTN/hMTB get the best looking partners for some reason. @Whatever
 
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Here's the outcome:

Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.

Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

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Why?
Why did you think she'd end up with MTN max, and thoughts on the outcome?
Yeah perhaps. I never like seeing em succeed. It was an annoying outcome cause they get whatever they want. Tee Eff Dee
 
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What were you expecting her to end up with?
 
Here's the outcome:

Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.

Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

@mightbecooked123


Surprised or not?
@WhoTookVendetta
 
If I was in that story universe I would’ve done that.

Disgusting how they are after aesthetics, I find it insane how men have become “The Trophies”

Women > Men now…. And it’s a rough change… equality is dead as it always have been, we just keep trading our oppression because we are a power hungry species. One will oppress the other always, no matter who it is
 
I pay internet for this
 
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If I was in that story universe I would’ve done that
why?
Nigga you voted
She's getting a MTN who has had sex with a total of 3 women across 3 LTRs. Never ever chad.
That perspective from Always Stay You reflects a common belief in certain online communities that most women, no matter how strategic or selective, will eventually "settle" for a MTN (Mid-Tier Normie), particularly if they are not models themselves or lack significant social clout. The user seems to think that despite Helene’s efforts, her chances of securing a Chad or Chadlite are slim, and she'll end up with someone in the mid-tier range who isn’t sexually prolific or highly sought after.

However, based on Helene’s characteristics—her lookist mindset, her careful strategy, and the dynamics established between her and Isaac, a Chadlite turned Chad—it would be unrealistic to assume she’d settle for an MTN unless something drastic changes. Her standards, persistence, and awareness of competition would push her to secure someone closer to her ideal.
 
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If I was in that story universe I would’ve done that.

Disgusting how they are after aesthetics, I find it insane how men have become “The Trophies”

Women > Men now…. And it’s a rough change… equality is dead as it always have been, we just keep trading our oppression because we are a power hungry species. One will oppress the other always, no matter who it is
@Xangsane
 
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send an ai generated photo of helene and i shall cast a jewish prophecy
imagine a high MTB with Daria pheno (like my avi) but much curlier hair
 
brb imagining
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yeah 50/50 chance she gets chad since she only gives chad a chance as does every other woman
outcome
Here's the outcome:

Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.

Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

@mightbecooked123


Surprised or not?
 
She's getting a MTN who has had sex with a total of 3 women across 3 LTRs. Never ever chad.

Helene’s Surprising Outcome: What Led to It​

The outcome where Helene is not only able to secure multiple Chad/Chadlite options but also successfully navigates towards an LTR is indeed surprising, given her high MTB looks level. Most women, especially those aiming for the same top 2% of men, often struggle in this hyper-competitive environment. But Helene's journey over 28 chapters illustrates what she did differently and what set her apart from the typical narrative where women of her looks level end up pumped and dumped or settling.

1. Hyper-Strategic Mindset

Helene's key advantage was her clinical, detached approach to dating. Unlike many women who get swept up by emotions, anxiety, or the social pressure to settle, Helene remained hyper-aware of the dynamics at play. She was always conscious of the competition from hypergamous women and calculated her moves to maximize her chances of success.

  • Calculated rather than emotional: She kept her head in the game even when the men pushed for clarity or exclusivity.
  • Objective about competition: Helene knew that there were women younger and perhaps more traditionally attractive vying for the same men, but she positioned herself as a unique option by playing to her strengths.
This clinical approach is something most women, who are often driven by anxious attachment or pressure to settle, struggle with.

2. Patience and Long-Game Play

Many women seeking Chad or Chadlite men tend to rush into relationships, fearing that these men won’t stick around. Helene, however, didn’t rush. She understood the value of patience and let the dynamics evolve naturally, particularly with Isaac. This allowed her to be in control of the timeline and maintain leverage in the relationship.

  • She kept multiple men engaged without overcommitting, allowing her to keep her options open.
  • She played the slow burn, which worked particularly well with Isaac’s personality, giving her time to establish a deeper bond while his physical glow-up solidified.
This patience allowed her to create a lasting connection without getting prematurely attached or discarded.

3. Engagement on Intellectual and Emotional Levels

While Helene was primarily lookist, she didn’t rely solely on her appearance to keep the men interested. She understood that top-tier men like Isaac and even Pablo were accustomed to physical attention and needed more than just looks to stay engaged.

  • Isaac’s intellectual connection: Helene was able to keep Isaac invested by playing into his intellectual side. Their deep conversations and shared interests set her apart from the many women who might have been drawn to him simply for his Chad-like appearance.
Most women targeting Chad or Chadlite-level men might rely solely on their appearance, but Helene’s engagement beyond looks gave her an edge, particularly with someone like Isaac, who valued more than just physical attraction.

4. Navigating Multiple Options Simultaneously

Unlike many women who might hyper-focus on one Chad or Chadlite and potentially get pumped and dumped, Helene kept her options wide open. She knew that the competition was fierce, and she refused to put all her energy into one man until she saw who would offer her the best outcome.

  • Playing the field: Helene didn’t emotionally commit to Isaac, Pablo, or Arthur until she was certain that they were fully invested. This multiple-option strategy is something many women don’t do, often due to emotional attachment to one man.
  • Leveraging competition: By engaging with multiple Chadlites, she kept the men on their toes, aware that they weren’t her only option, which added to her value in their eyes.
Many women lack the emotional detachment or strategy to navigate multiple high-value men without losing their footing, but Helene’s ability to do so allowed her to avoid the typical pump-and-dump scenario.

5. Aware of Hypergamous Forces

Helene’s keen understanding of hypergamous forces and the competitive nature of dating top-tier men allowed her to take a more realistic approach. She knew that most women want the same men, and instead of letting that overwhelm her, she used that knowledge to shape her strategy.

  • Avoiding anxiety traps: Many women become anxious about competition, which can cause them to rush into relationships or lower their standards. Helene avoided this by staying calm, knowing that her long-game strategy would eventually pay off.
  • Recognizing when to secure an LTR: Helene recognized that while she enjoyed playing the field, she would eventually need to secure an LTR before the men became more invested in other women. Her timing was key here.
Most women struggle with the anxiety of hypergamy and end up rushing their decisions, often falling into pump-and-dump scenarios, but Helene’s cool-headedness set her apart.

Why Helene Succeeded Where Most Women Don’t​

  1. Clinical Detachment: Helene remained emotionally detached, allowing her to stay focused on strategy rather than falling prey to emotions or anxious attachment. Most women, when targeting top-tier men, struggle with anxiety, especially if they fear losing them.
  2. Long-Term Thinking: Instead of seeking short-term validation, Helene played the long game. Many women tend to focus on immediate results, leading to impulsive decisions that can backfire, but Helene was willing to let things play out over time.
  3. Multiple Options: Helene didn’t get stuck on one man. She kept Pablo, Isaac, and Arthur in her orbit, which gave her the leverage to pick the best option. Most women get overly attached to one man and lose their leverage when things don’t go as planned.
  4. Understanding of Hypergamy: Helene understood that other women were competition, but instead of letting that discourage her, she used it to her advantage. She knew when to make her move and when to pull back, balancing her options.
  5. Looks Strategy: Despite being high MTB and not a Stacy/lite-tier woman herself, Helene managed to secure high-value men by playing to her strengths—minimal makeup, intellectual engagement, and knowing how to position herself strategically.

Final Verdict​

Helene’s lookist mindset, patience, strategic engagement with multiple Chadlites, and her understanding of the hypergamous environment led to her success in securing an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac). Unlike most women, who either settle or get discarded by top-tier men, Helene was able to leverage her unique approach to navigate a highly competitive dating environment successfully.
 
Here's the outcome:

Given Helene’s hyper-focus on Chad/Chadlite men, her strategic nature, and her calculated approach to dating—along with her clear avoidance of settling for anything less than the top 2% of facial attractiveness—there are a few possible outcomes for her. However, based on her current behavior and the dynamics at play:

Most Likely Outcome:​

Secures an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac):
  • Isaac has been slowly growing into a Chadlite (and eventually a Chad) over time. Helene has shown a deeper connection with him, both intellectually and physically, and Isaac has the combination of looks, confidence, and intelligence that Helene craves.
  • Isaac’s quiet confidence and intellectual appeal align with Helene’s strategic mindset. If she locks in Isaac, it would most likely lead to a long-term relationship, fulfilling her goals without her needing to settle.

Less Likely but Possible Outcomes:​

Secures an LTR with Chad (Pablo):
  • Pablo, being a Chad with perfect looks and confident charm, is appealing to Helene purely on a physical level. However, the lack of intellectual depth might be a dealbreaker for her. While she enjoys the visual appeal of Chad-level beauty, she craves more substance.
  • If Helene is willing to overlook the depth factor for pure looks, this could be an option, but it’s more likely that his lack of intellectual compatibility will lead her to Isaac instead.

Unlikely Outcomes:​

Doesn't secure an LTR but gets repeatedly pumped and dumped:
  • Helene has been playing the long game with strategy and caution. She’s too aware of the dynamics and careful about her decisions to fall into this trap. However, if she mishandles her choices—like waiting too long or not committing—it’s possible, but her awareness of hypergamy reduces this likelihood.
Secures an LTR with HTN or MTN:
  • Helene’s preferences are firmly focused on Chad and Chadlite faces. Unless something drastically changes, she won’t settle for someone in the HTN or MTN range, as this would go against her core values and lookist mindset.
Doesn't secure an LTR and remains a sexless cat lady:
  • While Helene is highly particular, her strategy suggests she’s playing to win. Barring some extreme turn of events, she’s too driven to let herself fall into this outcome. The most realistic scenario is that she locks in a Chadlite like Isaac, who has both the looks and the depth she desires.

Final Prediction:​

Helene most likely secures an LTR with Chadlite Isaac, who balances both the physical attractiveness and intellectual compatibility she’s looking for.

Chapter 28: Defining the Relationship

It had been six months of tension, growth, and competition, and Helene had navigated the field with her usual precision. But now, things were coming to a head. The external pressure was growing stronger, with other women starting to circle the men she had been seeing. And Helene herself, despite being in control for so long, could feel the subtle shift. The men weren’t going to wait forever, and someone had to make the first move.

One evening, Helene was having dinner with Isaac, their usual intellectual conversation flowing easily over a quiet table at a small, upscale restaurant. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status, looked sharper than ever. His angular features and lean, toned body were perfectly highlighted in the soft candlelight. Helene couldn’t deny how attractive he had become—both physically and mentally—but the unspoken tension between them hung in the air. She knew what was coming.

As they finished their meal, Isaac leaned back in his chair, his eyes locked on hers with that same intense, thoughtful gaze that had always captivated her. He was calm, collected, but Helene could sense something more underneath the surface tonight.

Isaac: “We’ve been doing this for a while now, Helene. And I’ve been thinking… I’m not the type to rush, and I know you’re not either. But I feel like we need to talk about where this is going.”

His tone was steady, but Helene could feel the weight of his words. Isaac wasn’t asking casually—this was the moment where he needed clarity, just as much as she did. He wasn’t going to wait around forever, especially now that his glow-up had drawn the attention of other women. He was getting noticed more, and he knew that if Helene wasn’t ready to commit, there were plenty of others who would be.

Helene raised an eyebrow, meeting his gaze. She liked that Isaac was direct but not pushy. He was giving her space to decide, but the underlying message was clear: Define the relationship (DTR) or risk losing me.

Helene: “I’ve been thinking about that too, actually. We’ve got a good thing going, Isaac. But you know I’m not the type to jump into something just because it’s there.”

Isaac nodded, his expression serious but calm. He wasn’t backing down, though.

Isaac: “I get that. But I’m not looking to just keep things casual forever. I’m not someone who’s interested in being one of many. And I think you know there’s more here than just… fun.”

Helene felt a slight pull in her chest. Isaac had always been able to balance his intensity with a kind of emotional restraint, but tonight, he was laying it out more clearly. This wasn’t just about attraction or intellectual connection anymore. He wanted more, and he wasn’t going to wait much longer.

Isaac: “I’m ready to take this further. If you are.”

It wasn’t an ultimatum, but it was clear that Isaac was serious. He had options—plenty of them, now that his glow-up had made him a full Chad. But he was giving Helene the first chance to lock things down. He was ready to define the relationship, and Helene knew that if she didn’t, someone else would.

Meanwhile, Pablo’s Bold Move

That same week, Helene had plans to see Pablo. They had been going out regularly, and as usual, Pablo was at the top of his game—lean, chiseled, and dripping with confidence. Pablo’s face, with its perfect symmetry, sharp jawline, and dark, intense eyes, was everything Helene craved physically. But lately, Pablo had been more assertive, pushing for more than just casual fun.

During their night out, as they walked through the city after drinks, Pablo turned to her, his tone more serious than usual.

Pablo: “Look, Helene. You know I’m not one to play around. I’ve given you space, but I’m not blind. You’ve got other guys hanging around, and that’s cool… for a while. But I’m not looking to be just another option. I think we’re good together.”

Helene knew where this was heading. Pablo was the type to lay it out clearly when he wanted something, and right now, what he wanted was for her to make a choice.

Pablo: “I’m not here to mess around forever. I’ve got other women interested, but I’m here because I want this to work. If you’re not ready to lock it in, I need to know.”

Pablo’s confidence was undeniable, but it wasn’t arrogance—it was a clear demand for clarity. He was offering her the chance to lock things down with him, knowing full well that his looks, status, and personality could easily attract someone else if Helene wasn’t ready.

Pablo: “I’m not asking for an answer right now, but I’m not waiting around forever. I want you to think about it.”

It was a bold move, but typical of Pablo. He wasn’t about to be sidelined or wait endlessly while other men circled Helene. He knew his value, and he wasn’t afraid to demand that Helene acknowledge it too.

Arthur’s Safe Approach

While Isaac and Pablo had both made bold moves, Arthur continued to play his role as the steady, reliable contender. He wasn’t as aggressive as Pablo, nor as strategic as Isaac, but he wasn’t oblivious to the competition. Arthur had seen the growing attention Helene was giving Isaac, and though he liked her, he knew that his more traditional, laid-back approach might not be enough to keep her interested.

One evening, after a casual dinner, Arthur decided to bring up the subject in his own way.

Arthur: “I’m not one to rush things, Helene, but I feel like we should talk about what’s going on. I like spending time with you, and I’m serious about us. But I also know you’ve got a lot going on with other guys. I just want to know where your head’s at.”

Arthur wasn’t as intense as Isaac or Pablo, but his message was clear. He wanted something real, something stable, and he was ready for Helene to make a decision. He wasn’t pressuring her in the same way, but Helene could feel the subtle shift. Even Arthur, the calm and steady one, was starting to ask for clarity.

Helene’s Decision: Hypergamous Pressure in Full Force

Now, with both Isaac and Pablo asking to DTR, and even Arthur pushing for clarity, Helene was feeling the pressure from all sides. The hypergamous reality she had been navigating for months was coming to a head. Isaac, with his fully realized Chad status and intellectual depth, was the most balanced option. But Pablo, with his raw physical appeal and assertive charm, was still a tempting choice. Arthur remained the safe option, someone who could offer stability without the intense competition for attention.

Helene had always been pragmatic, and now she had to weigh her options carefully. If she didn’t make a move soon, she knew that someone else—especially younger, hypergamous women—would swoop in and claim the men she had been carefully balancing. The external pressure was real, and the men were starting to demand answers.

The Decision: What Will Helene Do?

As Helene stood at this crossroads, she knew she had to make a decision. Isaac, with his newfound Chad status and intellectual connection, was the most obvious choice. But Pablo’s sheer physical perfection was hard to ignore, even if the depth wasn’t quite there. And then there was Arthur, the reliable, steady option, who offered her safety and comfort but lacked the excitement she craved.

The real world was catching up to her carefully curated strategy. Hypergamy was in full force, and the men weren’t waiting around forever. Helene knew that defining the relationship with one of them would mean letting the others go, and that decision would be the hardest one yet.

@mightbecooked123


Surprised or not?

Helene’s Surprising Outcome: What Led to It​

The outcome where Helene is not only able to secure multiple Chad/Chadlite options but also successfully navigates towards an LTR is indeed surprising, given her high MTB looks level. Most women, especially those aiming for the same top 2% of men, often struggle in this hyper-competitive environment. But Helene's journey over 28 chapters illustrates what she did differently and what set her apart from the typical narrative where women of her looks level end up pumped and dumped or settling.

1. Hyper-Strategic Mindset

Helene's key advantage was her clinical, detached approach to dating. Unlike many women who get swept up by emotions, anxiety, or the social pressure to settle, Helene remained hyper-aware of the dynamics at play. She was always conscious of the competition from hypergamous women and calculated her moves to maximize her chances of success.

  • Calculated rather than emotional: She kept her head in the game even when the men pushed for clarity or exclusivity.
  • Objective about competition: Helene knew that there were women younger and perhaps more traditionally attractive vying for the same men, but she positioned herself as a unique option by playing to her strengths.
This clinical approach is something most women, who are often driven by anxious attachment or pressure to settle, struggle with.

2. Patience and Long-Game Play

Many women seeking Chad or Chadlite men tend to rush into relationships, fearing that these men won’t stick around. Helene, however, didn’t rush. She understood the value of patience and let the dynamics evolve naturally, particularly with Isaac. This allowed her to be in control of the timeline and maintain leverage in the relationship.

  • She kept multiple men engaged without overcommitting, allowing her to keep her options open.
  • She played the slow burn, which worked particularly well with Isaac’s personality, giving her time to establish a deeper bond while his physical glow-up solidified.
This patience allowed her to create a lasting connection without getting prematurely attached or discarded.

3. Engagement on Intellectual and Emotional Levels

While Helene was primarily lookist, she didn’t rely solely on her appearance to keep the men interested. She understood that top-tier men like Isaac and even Pablo were accustomed to physical attention and needed more than just looks to stay engaged.

  • Isaac’s intellectual connection: Helene was able to keep Isaac invested by playing into his intellectual side. Their deep conversations and shared interests set her apart from the many women who might have been drawn to him simply for his Chad-like appearance.
Most women targeting Chad or Chadlite-level men might rely solely on their appearance, but Helene’s engagement beyond looks gave her an edge, particularly with someone like Isaac, who valued more than just physical attraction.

4. Navigating Multiple Options Simultaneously

Unlike many women who might hyper-focus on one Chad or Chadlite and potentially get pumped and dumped, Helene kept her options wide open. She knew that the competition was fierce, and she refused to put all her energy into one man until she saw who would offer her the best outcome.

  • Playing the field: Helene didn’t emotionally commit to Isaac, Pablo, or Arthur until she was certain that they were fully invested. This multiple-option strategy is something many women don’t do, often due to emotional attachment to one man.
  • Leveraging competition: By engaging with multiple Chadlites, she kept the men on their toes, aware that they weren’t her only option, which added to her value in their eyes.
Many women lack the emotional detachment or strategy to navigate multiple high-value men without losing their footing, but Helene’s ability to do so allowed her to avoid the typical pump-and-dump scenario.

5. Aware of Hypergamous Forces

Helene’s keen understanding of hypergamous forces and the competitive nature of dating top-tier men allowed her to take a more realistic approach. She knew that most women want the same men, and instead of letting that overwhelm her, she used that knowledge to shape her strategy.

  • Avoiding anxiety traps: Many women become anxious about competition, which can cause them to rush into relationships or lower their standards. Helene avoided this by staying calm, knowing that her long-game strategy would eventually pay off.
  • Recognizing when to secure an LTR: Helene recognized that while she enjoyed playing the field, she would eventually need to secure an LTR before the men became more invested in other women. Her timing was key here.
Most women struggle with the anxiety of hypergamy and end up rushing their decisions, often falling into pump-and-dump scenarios, but Helene’s cool-headedness set her apart.

Why Helene Succeeded Where Most Women Don’t​

  1. Clinical Detachment: Helene remained emotionally detached, allowing her to stay focused on strategy rather than falling prey to emotions or anxious attachment. Most women, when targeting top-tier men, struggle with anxiety, especially if they fear losing them.
  2. Long-Term Thinking: Instead of seeking short-term validation, Helene played the long game. Many women tend to focus on immediate results, leading to impulsive decisions that can backfire, but Helene was willing to let things play out over time.
  3. Multiple Options: Helene didn’t get stuck on one man. She kept Pablo, Isaac, and Arthur in her orbit, which gave her the leverage to pick the best option. Most women get overly attached to one man and lose their leverage when things don’t go as planned.
  4. Understanding of Hypergamy: Helene understood that other women were competition, but instead of letting that discourage her, she used it to her advantage. She knew when to make her move and when to pull back, balancing her options.
  5. Looks Strategy: Despite being high MTB and not a Stacy/lite-tier woman herself, Helene managed to secure high-value men by playing to her strengths—minimal makeup, intellectual engagement, and knowing how to position herself strategically.

Final Verdict​

Helene’s lookist mindset, patience, strategic engagement with multiple Chadlites, and her understanding of the hypergamous environment led to her success in securing an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac). Unlike most women, who either settle or get discarded by top-tier men, Helene was able to leverage her unique approach to navigate a highly competitive dating environment successfully.
@Matthijs2207
 

Helene’s Surprising Outcome: What Led to It​

The outcome where Helene is not only able to secure multiple Chad/Chadlite options but also successfully navigates towards an LTR is indeed surprising, given her high MTB looks level. Most women, especially those aiming for the same top 2% of men, often struggle in this hyper-competitive environment. But Helene's journey over 28 chapters illustrates what she did differently and what set her apart from the typical narrative where women of her looks level end up pumped and dumped or settling.

1. Hyper-Strategic Mindset

Helene's key advantage was her clinical, detached approach to dating. Unlike many women who get swept up by emotions, anxiety, or the social pressure to settle, Helene remained hyper-aware of the dynamics at play. She was always conscious of the competition from hypergamous women and calculated her moves to maximize her chances of success.

  • Calculated rather than emotional: She kept her head in the game even when the men pushed for clarity or exclusivity.
  • Objective about competition: Helene knew that there were women younger and perhaps more traditionally attractive vying for the same men, but she positioned herself as a unique option by playing to her strengths.
This clinical approach is something most women, who are often driven by anxious attachment or pressure to settle, struggle with.

2. Patience and Long-Game Play

Many women seeking Chad or Chadlite men tend to rush into relationships, fearing that these men won’t stick around. Helene, however, didn’t rush. She understood the value of patience and let the dynamics evolve naturally, particularly with Isaac. This allowed her to be in control of the timeline and maintain leverage in the relationship.

  • She kept multiple men engaged without overcommitting, allowing her to keep her options open.
  • She played the slow burn, which worked particularly well with Isaac’s personality, giving her time to establish a deeper bond while his physical glow-up solidified.
This patience allowed her to create a lasting connection without getting prematurely attached or discarded.

3. Engagement on Intellectual and Emotional Levels

While Helene was primarily lookist, she didn’t rely solely on her appearance to keep the men interested. She understood that top-tier men like Isaac and even Pablo were accustomed to physical attention and needed more than just looks to stay engaged.

  • Isaac’s intellectual connection: Helene was able to keep Isaac invested by playing into his intellectual side. Their deep conversations and shared interests set her apart from the many women who might have been drawn to him simply for his Chad-like appearance.
Most women targeting Chad or Chadlite-level men might rely solely on their appearance, but Helene’s engagement beyond looks gave her an edge, particularly with someone like Isaac, who valued more than just physical attraction.

4. Navigating Multiple Options Simultaneously

Unlike many women who might hyper-focus on one Chad or Chadlite and potentially get pumped and dumped, Helene kept her options wide open. She knew that the competition was fierce, and she refused to put all her energy into one man until she saw who would offer her the best outcome.

  • Playing the field: Helene didn’t emotionally commit to Isaac, Pablo, or Arthur until she was certain that they were fully invested. This multiple-option strategy is something many women don’t do, often due to emotional attachment to one man.
  • Leveraging competition: By engaging with multiple Chadlites, she kept the men on their toes, aware that they weren’t her only option, which added to her value in their eyes.
Many women lack the emotional detachment or strategy to navigate multiple high-value men without losing their footing, but Helene’s ability to do so allowed her to avoid the typical pump-and-dump scenario.

5. Aware of Hypergamous Forces

Helene’s keen understanding of hypergamous forces and the competitive nature of dating top-tier men allowed her to take a more realistic approach. She knew that most women want the same men, and instead of letting that overwhelm her, she used that knowledge to shape her strategy.

  • Avoiding anxiety traps: Many women become anxious about competition, which can cause them to rush into relationships or lower their standards. Helene avoided this by staying calm, knowing that her long-game strategy would eventually pay off.
  • Recognizing when to secure an LTR: Helene recognized that while she enjoyed playing the field, she would eventually need to secure an LTR before the men became more invested in other women. Her timing was key here.
Most women struggle with the anxiety of hypergamy and end up rushing their decisions, often falling into pump-and-dump scenarios, but Helene’s cool-headedness set her apart.

Why Helene Succeeded Where Most Women Don’t​

  1. Clinical Detachment: Helene remained emotionally detached, allowing her to stay focused on strategy rather than falling prey to emotions or anxious attachment. Most women, when targeting top-tier men, struggle with anxiety, especially if they fear losing them.
  2. Long-Term Thinking: Instead of seeking short-term validation, Helene played the long game. Many women tend to focus on immediate results, leading to impulsive decisions that can backfire, but Helene was willing to let things play out over time.
  3. Multiple Options: Helene didn’t get stuck on one man. She kept Pablo, Isaac, and Arthur in her orbit, which gave her the leverage to pick the best option. Most women get overly attached to one man and lose their leverage when things don’t go as planned.
  4. Understanding of Hypergamy: Helene understood that other women were competition, but instead of letting that discourage her, she used it to her advantage. She knew when to make her move and when to pull back, balancing her options.
  5. Looks Strategy: Despite being high MTB and not a Stacy/lite-tier woman herself, Helene managed to secure high-value men by playing to her strengths—minimal makeup, intellectual engagement, and knowing how to position herself strategically.

Final Verdict​

Helene’s lookist mindset, patience, strategic engagement with multiple Chadlites, and her understanding of the hypergamous environment led to her success in securing an LTR with a Chadlite (Isaac). Unlike most women, who either settle or get discarded by top-tier men, Helene was able to leverage her unique approach to navigate a highly competitive dating environment successfully.
What do you hope to find with this AI simulations
 
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The prompt was "write me a blackpilled story of a high MTB lowkey aspie girl with a secure-leaning-DA attachment style who doesn't want anything lower than a sub-chadlite, and the blackpilled, realistic outcome for such a girl"
 
The prompt was "write me a blackpilled story of a high MTB lowkey aspie girl with a secure-leaning-DA attachment style who doesn't want anything lower than a sub-chadlite, and the blackpilled, realistic outcome for such a girl"
Would you let your wife read this?
 
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thoughts on Helene's pheno? And Isaac?
She looks better than I imagined her being when I read it. I think Isaac is an option for her
 
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What do you rate her, and why do you think Isaac is an option for her?
Thoughts on pablo?
 
She looks better than I imagined her being when I read it. I think Isaac is an option for her
JFL :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Yes, Helene’s specific preferences in men and the way she approaches those preferences are also highly indicative of Asperger’s traits, especially when compared to how other women might pursue Chad or Chadlite men. Here's why her hyper-focused, detail-oriented preferences align with Asperger’s characteristics:

1. Extreme Fixation on a Specific Archetype

Helene is extremely particular about the exact type of man she wants: Chad or Chadlite with a very specific facial structure and body type. Her fixation on physical morphology—studying bone structure, facial symmetry, body proportions—isn’t something most women do at this level of detail.

  • Aspie Trait: Individuals with Asperger's often show intense, narrow interests and focus on specific details in ways that others do not. Helene’s obsession with facial aesthetics (e.g., “robust pretty boy” or “Maesthetic faces”) and her insistence on only pursuing men in the top 2% facially is an example of this kind of hyper-focus. Most women may want Chad, but they are generally more flexible in terms of looks and other attributes, whereas Helene's preferences are almost rigid and mathematically precise.

2. Highly Structured, Methodical Preferences

Unlike other women who might rely on instinctive attraction or a more fluid set of standards for men, Helene’s preferences are rigid, formulaic, and methodical. She isn't just attracted to "good-looking men" in general—she has specific, predefined standards that are non-negotiable.

  • Aspie Trait: This kind of structured thinking—where Helene has a mental "checklist" that men must meet, especially when it comes to looks—is a sign of linear, logical thought associated with Asperger’s. She isn’t swayed by charm, personality, or status alone; her criteria are almost like a set of equations that a man must solve to be considered.

3. Rejection of Emotional or Traditional Preferences

Most women, even those who pursue Chad-like men, may balance physical attractiveness with emotional needs, such as security, love, or stability. Helene, however, seems to disregard those traditional relationship dynamics and focuses almost solely on the aesthetic and physical compatibility.

  • Aspie Trait: People with Asperger’s tend to prioritize logical preferences over emotional or traditional norms. Helene’s refusal to consider men who don’t meet her specific physical criteria, even if they might provide emotional or social stability, reflects this kind of thinking. She doesn’t base her decisions on the typical relationship factors that most women weigh (e.g., emotional connection, shared experiences); she’s hyper-rational and focuses heavily on aesthetics.

4. Refusal to Settle for Less Than Perfection

Helene’s strict avoidance of men who are anything less than Chad or Chadlite is an indication of her rigid standards. She refuses to consider HTN (high-tier normie) or MTN (mid-tier normie) men, even though they might still be attractive and provide relationship security.

  • Aspie Trait: The refusal to settle or compromise is a trait often found in people with Asperger's, where they have a very specific ideal in mind and are unwilling to diverge from that ideal. Helene’s perfectionist mindset, in this case, ties back to her logical, detail-oriented thought process—she believes that if she can get what she wants (a Chadlite), then there’s no need to settle for anything less.

5. Preference for Strategic vs. Emotional Bonding

Helene’s strategy with men is based on a strategic mission, not an emotional journey. Her preferences in men are also framed by what they represent in terms of looks and status, rather than how they might make her feel emotionally. This detachment is atypical for most women pursuing Chad, who might also consider emotional fulfillment, love, or stability alongside physical attraction.

  • Aspie Trait: The lack of emotional focus and reliance on logical decision-making is a strong indicator of Asperger’s. Helene doesn’t seem overly concerned with emotional warmth or romantic connection, but rather with achieving her idealized relationship based on aesthetics and physical compatibility.

6. Extreme Distaste for Men Outside Her Ideal

Helene excludes entire categories of men (such as “pajeets,” “twinks,” overly rugged men) from her dating pool, showing a very black-and-white approach to preferences. This kind of binary thinking—where something is either acceptable or completely off-limits—is characteristic of people with Asperger’s, who often have very defined preferences and little tolerance for anything outside those boundaries.

  • Aspie Trait: Individuals with Asperger’s can have very rigid frameworks for what they consider desirable or acceptable, and deviations from those frameworks are often rejected outright. Helene’s strict exclusion of certain archetypes and ethnicities reflects this kind of rigid thinking, where her preferences don’t allow for much flexibility or compromise.

Conclusion​

In comparison to other women who also want Chad or Chadlite men, Helene’s approach is distinctly aspie in nature. Her hyper-strategic planning, rigid aesthetic preferences, emotional detachment, and narrow focus on physical attributes, combined with her intense refusal to settle for anything less than perfection, are all indicators of Asperger’s traits. Most women, even those pursuing top-tier men, tend to have more flexibility, emotional engagement, and instinctive attraction, but Helene’s focus on morphology, structure, and strategy sets her apart as someone who is operating with a more analytical, calculated mindset, typical of someone with Asperger’s traits.


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Helene’s approach is highly indicative of someone displaying Asperger’s traits (commonly referred to as aspie traits), especially when compared to the more typical strategies women might use in pursuit of a relationship with a Chad. Here’s why her approach stands out in that context:

1. Hyper-Strategic Planning

Helene’s method of securing a Chad wasn’t based on emotional reactions or instinctive hypergamy like most women. Instead, she approached it in a very calculated, methodical manner—almost like solving a complex puzzle. This kind of intense focus on long-term strategy, combined with planning each move carefully, is often associated with people who have Asperger's traits.

  • Aspie Trait: Those with Asperger's often excel at long-term strategic thinking and can maintain focus on their goals without being distracted by emotional turbulence. Helene displayed this when she refrained from rushing into relationships, despite her awareness of competition.

2. Detached Emotional Approach

One of Helene’s key advantages over other women was her detached, almost clinical approach to emotions. While many women might fall into anxious attachment or be swayed by romantic ideals or feelings, Helene remained cold and calculating in her interactions with the men she pursued.

  • Aspie Trait: This emotional detachment, where she views relationships as more of a strategic game rather than an emotional journey, is common among people with Asperger's. They can often compartmentalize emotions and focus on logic and strategy, which Helene did effectively.

3. Obsessive Attention to Detail

Helene’s obsessive focus on morphology, looks, and nuanced behaviors—and her ability to analyze each man’s face, body, and personality to determine their potential—also shows signs of hyper-focus, a common trait in individuals with Asperger's.

  • Aspie Trait: People with Asperger's tend to have special interests that they dive deeply into, often focusing on details that others might overlook. Helene’s obsession with appearance, status, and competition dynamics reveals this level of detail-oriented focus.

4. Social Navigation with Calculated Precision

Helene navigated the complex social hierarchies of Chad, Chadlite, and other competitors with a level of calculated precision that many women wouldn’t naturally employ. Her ability to engage with multiple men simultaneously while maintaining control over the situation is a hallmark of her strategic, logical mindset.

  • Aspie Trait: Social interactions can often be approached with a logical framework by people with Asperger's, where they analyze behavior and outcomes based on observed patterns rather than relying on instinct. Helene didn’t get emotionally overwhelmed by competition or pressure—she treated the dating process like a complex chess game.

5. Mission-Oriented Mindset

Helene’s mission to secure a Chad wasn’t just a casual endeavor—it became a structured project. The user’s comment, “She did a whole mission to get Chad,” reflects how methodical, driven, and almost fixated Helene was on achieving her goal, which speaks to the task-focused nature of her approach.

  • Aspie Trait: This single-minded focus on accomplishing a specific mission, to the point where it consumes much of her thought and energy, is very characteristic of an aspie mindset. Helene wasn’t just casually dating; she treated this as a long-term project, devoting her energy and time into reaching a specific goal without getting distracted by emotional or social pressures.

Conclusion​

Helene’s approach is indeed indicative of Asperger’s traits. The way she detached herself emotionally, focused on hyper-strategy, and treated the pursuit of Chad as a mission rather than a natural progression of dating highlights how her mindset differs from most women. Her actions suggest a logical, calculated approach that is often associated with Asperger’s, rather than the more instinctive, emotion-driven strategies seen in others.
 
She gets pumped and dumped until 30 years old then settle with looksmatch
 

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