Blue eye gene in Europe

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This forum has such a dumb definition of what is white and not

There’s no such thing as “white” tbh, everyone gives it their own definition according to their opinion. At the end of the day all europeans are descendants of three main groups, Neolithic farmers, Steppe Yamnaya pastoralists, and Hunter gatherers.

 

[Orc]

amerimutts just cant catch a break

they keep deluding themselves into thinking their ancestors are from north-west europe but while they might've migrated from there it was mostly the under-class that went to america, that consisted out of immigrants, they aren't genetically from those countries.

compare that to a country that has actual north-west european ancestry like australia, you'll quickly notice the low prevalence of light features in america only makes sense if they aren't genetically what they think they are.

The low percentages in western Ireland and Wales are due to ancient indigenous ancestry of ancient paleo atlantid peoples. They’re lower than Central and Northern Italy and similar percentage wise to Greece due to this.
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north atlantids don't have any southern admixture there's been studies conducted on this.

they just retained ancestral brittish features, ancient brits had dark skin and dark hair, but light eyes, some isolated populations kept these traits.

 

[hopecel]

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Percentage also includes countries who possess the not activated gene but are carriers of it.

an average Croat or a Serbian I've seen irl had lighter eyes than an average Albanian

I'm not sure if the map is legit

 

[sportsmogger]

Do hazel eyes people carry the gene?

anyone can carry the gene

the gene doesnt mean you’re guaranteed blue eyes

 

[Deleted member 30959]

they keep deluding themselves into thinking their ancestors are from north-west europe but while they might've migrated from there it was mostly the under-class that went to america, that consisted out of immigrants, they aren't genetically from those countries.

@Praxxis so sorry buddy

 

[FascisstChad]

wait until you find out turkey has more natural blondes than the US.

That’s not accounting for non mixed American whites which are only around half the population. Most Americans are Germano Celtic except in swarthland aka the north east filled with swarthalians so they would have more blondes.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Not everybody with blue eyes is muh white. By that logic I am white.

According to these people Melanesians are white lol

 

[sportsmogger]

That’s not accounting for non mixed American whites which are only around half the population. Most Americans are Germano Celtic except in swarthland aka the north east filled with swarthalians so they would have more blondes.

most americans are british isles

 

[AustrianMogger]

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Percentage also includes countries who possess the not activated gene but are carriers of it.

You must be on the dbdr discord

 

[FascisstChad]

they keep deluding themselves into thinking their ancestors are from north-west europe but while they might've migrated from there it was mostly the under-class that went to america, that consisted out of immigrants, they aren't genetically from those countries.

compare that to a country that has actual north-west european ancestry like australia, you'll quickly notice the low prevalence of light features in america only makes sense if they aren't genetically what they think they are.


north atlantids don't have any southern admixture there's been studies conducted on this.

they just retained ancestral brittish features, ancient brits had dark skin and dark hair, but light eyes, some isolated populations kept these traits.

I’m talking about paleo not north Atlantids their 2 different things. Paleo Atlantids are the original Neolithic population which formed right after Anatolian migration, the highest whg ancestry is in Estonia not western Europe which is atlantid dominant.

 

[STAMPEDE]

an average Croat or a Serbian I've seen irl had lighter eyes than an average Albanian

I'm not sure if the map is legit

Bro can’t you read the fucking map? Damn the IQ of this forum hurts me. It’s the carriers of the gene dumbass. Not activated gene. Albanians have the gene more.

 

[FascisstChad]

most americans are british isles

Yes, Irish + British + German and some French primarily, so Celto Germanic like I said.

 

[6ft4]

63% in Ireland but I get cursed wit T20's

So this apparently says 63% are carriers of the blue eye gene, despite my anecdotal evidence leading me to believe that 63% or more have evident blue eyes which would lead the percentage of carriers to be considerably higher.
Just swiping on foids on tinder the rate of blue eyes is giga high

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When swiping in Sweden and Finland way more foids have green-blue eyes but maybe these are recorded as Blue.

Typical Nordic eye colour

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[axttt_]

ALBANIANS ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS

whos the whore in ur avi

 

[boxface34]

The low percentages in western Ireland and Wales are due to ancient indigenous ancestry of ancient paleo atlantid peoples. They’re lower than Central and Northern Italy and similar percentage wise to Greece due to this.
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What a load of shit, there is brown eyed people in Sweden too, and Irish people have one the highest steppe ancestry in all of Europe on par with baltics

The majority of Irish have dark hairs but blue eyes

 

[hopecel]

Bro can’t you read the fucking map? Damn the IQ of this forum hurts me. It’s the carriers of the gene dumbass. Not activated gene. Albanians have the gene more.

I've read that buddy it just doesn't make sense to me

 

[boxface34]

So this apparently says 63% are carriers of the blue eye gene, despite my anecdotal evidence leading me to believe that 63% or more have evident blue eyes which would lead the percentage of carriers to be considerably higher.
Just swiping on foids on tinder the rate of blue eyes is giga high

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When swiping in Sweden and Finland way more foids have green-blue eyes but maybe these are recorded as Blue.

Typical Nordic eye colour

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Based. I was hoping you come into this thread

 

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What a load of shit, there is brown eyed people in Sweden too, and Irish people have one the highest steppe ancestry in all of Europe on par with baltics

The majority of Irish have dark hairs but blue eyes

Steppe ancestry doesn’t mean Blue eyes. Blue eyes and blonde hair mutation originated in Black Sea from hunter gatherers and neolithic farmers not from steppe people. Steppe people came in all shades, But they were mostly(80%+) brown haired and brown eyed. Even light skin originated from neolithic farmers in europe.

 

[FascisstChad]

What a load of shit, there is brown eyed people in Sweden too, and Irish people have one the highest steppe ancestry in all of Europe on par with baltics

Are you retarded, of course there are brown eyes people in Sweden too I never said otherwise. I’m talking about the genome for blue eyes, percentage wise South western Ireland and Wales are more simikar to Greece in carrying the genes for blue eyes but not expression, they have higher expression. That’s why the whole thing of the “black Irish” exists, their not black but they have darker colouring than the average Irish person which have higher carrying percentages for blue eyes, the east and west are different and since the east is more populous the majority of the population would look more like the east. This is a fact. That’s why we have Colin Farrell and Catherine Zeta jones.

They do have the highest steppe ancetsry actually much higher than the Baltic in fact but steppe ancestry has lower percentages of blue eyes in the genome. The reason the baltics have such high percentages is due to them having the highest western hunter gather ancetsry.

 

[FascisstChad]

Steppe ancestry doesn’t mean Blue eyes. Blue eyes mutation originated in Black Sea from hunter gatherers and neolithic farmers not from steppe people. Steppe people came in all shades, But they were mostly brown haired and brown eyed.
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Exactly, this guys a fucking moron. Western hunter gatherers have the highest ancestral concentration in The Baltics and surrounding areas which overlaps with their prevalence of blue eyes. He genuinely thinks the two populations have similar levels of steppe ancetsry which is retarded. The highest concentration of steppe ancestry is in Western Ireland, the east of the country has less than the west because it’s more mixed and has more historical interactions with other populations.

 

[STAMPEDE]

So this apparently says 63% are carriers of the blue eye gene, despite my anecdotal evidence leading me to believe that 63% or more have evident blue eyes which would lead the percentage of carriers to be considerably higher.
Just swiping on foids on tinder the rate of blue eyes is giga high

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When swiping in Sweden and Finland way more foids have green-blue eyes but maybe these are recorded as Blue.

Typical Nordic eye colour

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You’re not taking into account contacts, The foids in british isles fraud their looks the most in the most extreme methods as everyone knows, from wearing contacts to spraying their skin tan. British isles definitely has a high percentage but not that high as you claim. Anecdotal evidence will never prove anything as you will never see most people in british isles to prove your point.

 

[Orc]

That’s not accounting for non mixed American whites which are only around half the population. Most Americans are Germano Celtic except in swarthland aka the north east filled with swarthalians so they would have more blondes.

the prevalence of light features among 'white' americans is still abnormally low, the only state that has similar figures compared to north-west europe is around minnesota and even they're on the lower end of what's normal.

states like wyoming that have next to no browns are still on par with southern europe.

 

[hopecel]

Steppe ancestry doesn’t mean Blue eyes. Blue eyes mutation originated in Black Sea from hunter gatherers and neolithic farmers not from steppe people. Steppe people came in all shades, But they were mostly brown haired and brown eyed.
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isn't steppe ancestry actually so called Yamnaya aka "Aryan"?

if so, it means that original Aryans were brown haired and brown eyed, so it makes no sense to me considering there are thousands of blue eyed Pashtuns for example that probably have Aryan ancestry

 

[boxface34]

Are you retarded, of course there are brown eyes people in Sweden too I never said otherwise. I’m talking about the genome for blue eyes, percentage wise South western Ireland and Wales are more simikar to Greece in carrying the genes for blue eyes but not expression, they have higher expression. That’s why the whole thing of the “black Irish” exists, their not black but they have darker colouring than the average Irish person which have higher carrying percentages for blue eyes, the east and west are different and since the east is more populous the majority of the population would look more like the east. This is a fact. That’s why we have Colin Farrell and Catherine Zeta jones.

They do have the highest steppe ancetsry actually much higher than the Baltic in fact but steppe ancestry has lower percentages of blue eyes in the genome. The reason the baltics have such high percentages is due to them having the highest western hunter gather ancetsry.

"The reason the baltics have such high percentages is due to them having the highest western hunter gather ancetsry."

They do but then why would shitskin Syrians and Greeks carry the genes for blue eyes more than the Welsh or some Irish, when welsh have much more WHG dna than them and less neolithic farmer dna ?

Just admit the map of op is dogshit, go to Wales or Ireland and see for yourself, there is no way only 30% of people carry the genes for blue eyes.

Edit; Basques aslo have one of the highest amount of WHG dna, on par with Balts, and yet they barely have any blue eyes

 

[FascisstChad]

the prevalence of light features among 'white' americans is still abnormally low, the only state that has similar figures compared to north-west europe is around minnesota and even they're on the lower end of what's normal.

Still higher than turkey unlike what you said. Their white, the reason for the slight pay darker features is their a blend of European phenotypes which changes gene expression and slight natural selection factors because until the late 1800s their was still a frontier effect in action and people better suited for Americas climate survived. Most white Americans except groups like Italians and Polaks the isolated white groups would have been affected by this because they came her earlier and fused into a new population.

 

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[STAMPEDE]

"The reason the baltics have such high percentages is due to them having the highest western hunter gather ancetsry."

They do but then why would shitskin Syrians and Greeks carry the genes for blue eyes more than the Welsh or some Irish, when welsh have much more WHG dna than them and less neolithic farmer dna ?

Just admit the map of op is dogshit, go to Wales or Ireland and see for yourself, there is no way only 30% of people carry the genes for blue eyes.

The stupidity of this thread hurts me physically. You people have no knowledge about genetics.

 

[FascisstChad]

"The reason the baltics have such high percentages is due to them having the highest western hunter gather ancetsry."

They do but then why would shitskin Syrians and Greeks carry the genes for blue eyes more than the Welsh or some Irish, when welsh have much more WHG dna than them and less neolithic farmer dna ?

Just admit the map of op is dogshit, go to Wales or Ireland and see for yourself, there is no way only 30% of people carry the genes for blue eyes.

Steppe ancetsry accounts for differences, yes the map is flawed. The map is about percentages of carrying the gene not gene expression. Wales has higher gene expression than Greece. It’s not that complicated. Gene expression varies among populations with some genes being more active and others less so, basic biology.

 

[FascisstChad]

The stupidity of this thread hurts me physically. You people have no knowledge about genetics.

It really is, they don’t understand the difference between carrying and expression. It’s basic stuff. A population can have a similar carrying capacity but different expression levels.

 

[STAMPEDE]

isn't steppe ancestry actually so called Yamnaya aka "Aryan"?

if so, it means that original Aryans were brown haired and brown eyed, so it makes no sense to me considering there are thousands of blue eyed Pashtuns for example that probably have Aryan ancestry

The yamnaya(steppe peoples) were mostly brown eyed and brown haired, The original aryans in Pashtun you’re seeing must be greek soldiers of alexander who were mostly neolithic farmer by ancestry. Even tho blue eyes are still rare in pashtun and they’re still mostly brown eyed. The yamnaya people didn’t have much genetic influence outside Europe.

 

[boxface34]

Steppe ancetsry accounts for differences, yes the map is flawed. The map is about percentages of carrying the gene not gene expression. Wales has higher gene expression than Greece. It’s not that complicated. Gene expression varies among populations with some genes being more active and others less so, basic biology.

"Wales has higher gene expression than Greece."

Yeah i got it, you keep saying the same thing over and over, what im saying on the other hand is that there is certainly more than ∼30% of welsh having blue eyes, and the only shit explanation you gave to what im saying is that they have less WHG dna than Balts, which doesnt explain anything then about Greece or Syria having as much carrier of the genes for blue eyes

 

[Orc]

Still higher than turkey unlike what you said.

it is 4% or lower country wide, the US is majority non-white, it hides this by classifying north africans and middle-easterners as white.

Their white, the reason for the slight pay darker features is their a blend of European phenotypes which changes gene expression and slight natural selection factors because until the late 1800s their was still a frontier effect in action and people better suited for Americas climate survived.

human skin tone changes rapidly, but hair color and eye-color does not.

light features usually aren't retained through admixture, either they out-bred or they didn't have those features to begin with, the last is more likely considering there's not actually that much admixture in the northern states, nor was there ever.

Most white Americans except groups like Italians and Polaks the isolated white groups would have been affected by this because they came her earlier and fused into a new population.
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isolated groups would've retained it, like the scandis in minnesota did, there's a reason their football team is called 'vikings'

 

[FascisstChad]

The yamnaya(steppe peoples) were mostly brown eyed and brown haired, The original aryans in Pashtun you’re seeing must be greek soldiers of alexander who were mostly neolithic farmer by ancestry. Even tho blue eyes are still rare in pashtun and they’re still mostly brown eyed. The yamnaya people didn’t have much genetic influence outside Europe.
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I agree with a lot of what you said but I’d have to disagree there. Alexander did lies and impact but it was incredibly small, the reason they have some light eyes is because the steppe population picked it up from mixing with populations because they went north before going south east, unlike the steppe ancestry in Western Europeans which had less mixture causing a lower amount of blue eyes in the steppe population.

 

[STAMPEDE]

It really is, they don’t understand the difference between carrying and expression. It’s basic stuff. A population can have a similar carrying capacity but different expression levels.
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It's really a simple concept to understand, Most of this doesn’t even have anything to do with genetics at all. Makes me question the IQ level of this forum.

 

[FascisstChad]

it is 4% or lower country wide, the US is majority non-white, it hides this by classifying north africans and middle-easterners as white.

human skin tone changes rapidly, but hair color and eye-color does not.

light features usually aren't retained through admixture, either they out-bred or they didn't have those features to begin with, the last is more likely considering there's not actually that much admixture in the northern states, nor was there ever.


isolated groups would've retained it, like the scandis in minnesota did, there's a reason their football team is called 'vikings'

I mean the polaks and Italians would be the isolated groups, French, Germans, English and Irish aren’t at all isolated, only in places where it was forces like Louisana. That’s why when I’m looking through actors ethnicities it’s 80% of the time a mix of English, German, Irish and minor French.

 

[FascisstChad]

"Wales has higher gene expression than Greece."

Yeah i got it, you keep saying the same thing over and over, what im saying on the other hand is that there is certainly more than ∼30% of welsh having blue eyes, and the only shit explanation you gave to what im saying is that they have less WHG dna than Balts, which doesnt explain anything then about Greece or Syria having as much carrier of the genes for blue eyes

There might be slight percentage differences in the map and we don’t know the difference in testing between that image and the image I’ll give. If I had to guess the first image was just a test of the actual ethnic Welsh and this image is of the Welsh nationality, which means just who resides there, and the difference isn’t much too high.

 

[Praxxis]

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There’s no such thing as “white” tbh, everyone gives it their own definition according to their opinion. At the end of the day all europeans are descendants of three main groups, Neolithic farmers, Steppe Yamnaya pastoralists, and Hunter gatherers.

Exactly

That’s why a “white” race exists even if everyone who has these genes isn’t some 6’4 Nordic MoggER

Celto Germanic like I said.

My ancestry.

@Praxxis so sorry buddy

Oh yeah, whilst my ancestors had nothing on their backs they cultivated an Empire

Whilst yours were still preaching the Kabbah on the streets, abdul

 

[Praxxis]

will read the rest later cause it’s interested me

 

[Deleted member 30959]

My ancestry.

 

[ihatereddit]

I wonder if I'm carrying it I hope so shit eyes are a curse

 

[Praxxis]

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Be interesting to see what yours would be, considering you’re an Ashkenazi, it would show you’re inbred and also half sandnigger and half euromutt

Once an abdul, always an abdul

@DepigmentedBrownoid

 

[Whatever]

I’m in Switzerland right now, I’ve never seen so many dark haired and brown eyed white people, it’s a bit of a surprise. Much higher percentage of this than among white Americans.

 

[Worthless]

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Cope so much

 

[negativetiltedheart]

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No wonder why like ethnic coloring.

 

[negativetiltedheart]

People say green are rarest eye color. I have seen green color so manytimes. Personally light brown are most rarest color. I have seen it very rarely.

 

[FaceandBBC]

People say green are rarest eye color. I have seen green color so manytimes. Personally light brown are most rarest color. I have seen it very rarely.

You’re talking about amber eyes. Light brown eyes aren’t rare at all.

 

[BimaxLaser]

According to these people Melanesians are white lol
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Looks how happy that kid is, he knows he is blessed

 

[negativetiltedheart]

You’re talking about amber eyes. Light brown eyes aren’t rare at all.

yeah that shit. tHEY are super rare and holy fuck they look good.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Useless pseudo-studies.

 

[StuntmanMike]

Steppe ancestry doesn’t mean Blue eyes. Blue eyes and blonde hair mutation originated in Black Sea from hunter gatherers and neolithic farmers not from steppe people. Steppe people came in all shades, But they were mostly(80%+) brown haired and brown eyed. Even light skin originated from neolithic farmers in europe.
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Oldest white sample is RIP001 a WHG from Italy
Oldest Nordic sample(blond hair blue eyes and pale skin) is from Central Anatolia Turkey.
Oldest light skin related sample is from Georgia Satsurblia


For overall you are right . IE were mostly brown or brown passing
Whites are white due to Anatolian farmers