Body positivity movement is dying and blackpill is spreading

[Deleted member 7823]

With the rise of TikTok, people have become more blackpilled than ever esp the younger gen z generation. TikTok is full of stacys and chads and beauty challenges to check if you're attractive. It seems that more people are starting to get surgeries esp normie tier stuff like rhinos and fillers; they're realising how important looks are. Back in early 2000s, people weren't this based.
I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.
Also it has become socially acceptable to bully ugly ppl as witnessed in tiktok comment section of uggos.

Tdlr: just imagine the competition if it became socially acceptable to get surgeries.

 

[Deleted member 7866]

dn rd the essay

 

[Copium]

dn rd the essay

people cringe at the word surgery and the world doesn't revolve around tiktok and reddit it's a minority
So I doubt it

 

[Deleted member 7866]

people cringe at the word surgery and the world doesn't revolve around tiktok and reddit it's a minority
So I doubt it

No, I actually didn't read it. What was it about?

 

[The giga incel]

No,its not dying ,it actually never existed for men,only for women,now there are videos whit tousend of K talking bout looks and giving the fault to men and patriarchy

 

[Deleted member 2205]

I have seen a lot of fat and slut shaming videos on tik tok tbh

 

[Deleted member 7823]

I have seen a lot of fat and slut shaming videos on tik tok tbh

A couple years ago when body positivity movement was at its peak you couldn't say shit about fat ppl without getting anhiliated

 

[Deleted member 2205]

A couple years ago when body positivity movement was at its peak you couldn't say shit about fat ppl without getting anhiliated

People speaking out against are still in the minorty. But compared to 2016 sure ig

 

[Deleted member 6111]

good thing for society bad thing for us

 

[andy9432]

Tiktok needs to get banned.

 

[Deleted member 7823]

good thing for society bad thing for us

How is it good for society? How is ur wife supposed to be attracted to you if she can scroll thru tiktok to find better looking gigachads and then she ends up comparing u to them.

 

[metagross]

I still remember that one tiktok challenge. The "Don't Judge" challenge or whatever.

And it was basically just Chads and Stacies making fun of ugly people, with the message essentially being: "See? Just look good lmao"

 

[Deleted member 6305]

That's bad actually
I want normies to be bluepilled

 

[herring]

How is it good for society? How is ur wife supposed to be attracted to you if she can scroll thru tiktok to find better looking gigachads and then she ends up comparing u to them.

extreme hypergamy seems like eugenics to me, if women get pickier and more superficial, the collective genetic quality of a population should improve within a few generations.

 

[disillusioned]

Cope just because there are more people who realize that looks matter that doesn't mean most normies have woken up to the fact that women only want to fuck the top 5-10% of men.

 

[WannaBeA6]

i don't think it was a thing for places outside america

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I can tell you Blackpill is not going mainstream any time soon.

People hate acknowledging that shit.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

How is it good for society? How is ur wife supposed to be attracted to you if she can scroll thru tiktok to find better looking gigachads and then she ends up comparing u to them.

because ugly people are ugly

 

[ChangeOfHeart]

How is it good for society? How is ur wife supposed to be attracted to you if she can scroll thru tiktok to find better looking gigachads and then she ends up comparing u to them.

Go to your local walmart or Target, and look at all the young women who are in relationships.

Not everyone is a male model this is cope.

 

[spark]

body positivity was always just for women dummy
blackpill is the reality just for us men

 

[datboijj]

I still remember that one tiktok challenge. The "Don't Judge" challenge or whatever.

And it was basically just Chads and Stacies making fun of ugly people, with the message essentially being: "See? Just look good lmao"

That challenge was absolutely brutal jesus christ

 

[Deleted member 3512]

back in the 2000s " black pill " was just common sense.
No one think seriously that personality matter, it's just a social convention saying that.

 

[Deleted member 8244]

Agreed, but this will inevitably lead to women being treated worse and society finally rejecting simps

 

[IWantToMax]

My friends keep telling me blackpilled shit.
Sometimes I wonder if they lurk here

 

[AutismMaxing]

I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.

Economies of Scale: What Are They and How Are They Used?

Economies of scale are cost advantages reaped by companies when production becomes efficient.

www.investopedia.com

Plastic surgery prices should fall, as plastic surgery becomes streamlined and more common and easier to access everywhere. A lot of surgeries are cheap in South Korea because almost every one gets them.

With the rise of TikTok, people have become more blackpilled than ever esp the younger gen z generation. TikTok is full of stacys and chads and beauty challenges to check if you're attractive. It seems that more people are starting to get surgeries esp normie tier stuff like rhinos and fillers; they're realising how important looks are. Back in early 2000s, people weren't this based.
I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.
Also it has become socially acceptable to bully ugly ppl as witnessed in tiktok comment section of uggos.

Tdlr: just imagine the competition if it became socially acceptable to get surgeries.

I agree, the whole world Might become something like South Korea 2.0.

The thing about South Korea is that every one is Plastic Surgery Maxed, obsessed with health, fitness, and skin care, so most people are good looking.

This means that to be successful as a man, money and status are actually needed a lot more. You can't just body and face max because every one does that.

It might be worth chasing money and status as well as looks maxing to get ahead of the curve.

But realistically with dating apps becoming more and more popular and ever increasingly efficient as serving up the very best Chads to all women, as they wait for months or sometimes years for them to get their turn, most of us will not make it. We will die watching surgery maxed, steroid maxed, and genetically superior Chad rampage through the women of our nursing homes.

But whatever, just try your best and wait for enhancements in VR porn; Full body haptic suits (for touch), human sounding Ai you can hold a conversation with, etc. because with the increasing demand breakthroughs and cost reduction in that technology is inevitable.

 

[DatNibba11]

Dw bro its okay. Start now. laugh at them later on

 

[eduardkoopman]

With the rise of TikTok, people have become more blackpilled than ever esp the younger gen z generation. TikTok is full of stacys and chads and beauty s-allenges to check if you're attractive. It seems that more people are starting to get surgeries esp normie tier stuff like rhinos and fillers; they're realising how important looks are. Back in early 2000s, people weren't this based.
I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.
Also it has become socially acceptable to bully ugly ppl as witnessed in tiktok comment section of uggos.

Tdlr: just imagine the competition if it became socially acceptable to get surgeries.

My generation. Millenials. And the ones before that all the way back to the boomers.
Massive "muh personality" copers.
The 1910's-1930's born men, were quite blackpilled about looks I fealt. But also 100% betabux, provider minded. But also lookism.

 

[eduardkoopman]

back in the 2000s " black pill " was just common sense.
No one think seriously that personality matter, it's just a social convention saying that.

pua was very popular. Which was massive coping with having the magic pickup lines, what to say, what to do. And the badboy cope, was also very big back than. Not recognising that a badboy ugly man, is just an hated outcast.

 

[Deleted member 7076]

lmao foids on insta stories be still on the body positivity bs ngl

 

[Deleted member 3512]

pua was very popular. Which was massive coping with having the magic pickup lines, what to say, what to do. And the badboy cope, was also very big back than. Not recognising that a badboy ugly man, is just an hated outcast.

PUA shit come to southern europe years after, in the 10s. Even today, in Italy, there is playloveracademy who is the spaghetti version of RSD

 

[eduardkoopman]

PUA shit come to southern europe years after, in the 10s. Even today, in Italy, there is playloveracademy who is the spaghetti version of RSD

I was alive back than.

David Deangelo/Double your dating was very popular I recall. in early 2000's. It's advice was basically. Be confident bro. And be cocky funny. When you are being cocky funny, women will fall in love with you. Basically massive Jestermaxxing

David DeAngelo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Than in 2005 that book; "the game" came out. And it'was massive popular those pua sutff. About asking women random opinions on the streets. And Mystery method, being a peacock yeastermaxxer clown.

I recall. because I was late teens/early 20's back than. Interenet based sharing of information, was kinda taking off in that time.

Before 2000's, I guess, it was more books, video tapes, cd's, and seminars.
Like sodini went to.

 

[Deleted member 3512]

I was alive back than.

me too, I'm talking about pua diffusion in italy, this shit become popoular years after it became mainstream in northern europe

 

[Mastermind]

people cringe at the word surgery and the world doesn't revolve around tiktok and reddit it's a minority
So I doubt it

This.
Surgery was, is and will forever be seen as weirdo social outcast stuff. Remember you're not supposed to fraud your genetics in a society where looks are used to determine your worth.

 

[eduardkoopman]

me too, I'm talking about pua diffusion in italy, this shit become popoular years after it became mainstream in northern europe

maybe it different per countries

 

[eduardkoopman]

 

[Deleted member 3512]

lol at eben pagan the scammer

 

[kubo]

This.
Surgery was, is and will forever be seen as weirdo social outcast stuff. Remember you're not supposed to fraud your genetics in a society where looks are used to determine your worth.

For real I've heard too many bluepilled people talk about how pathetic or sad cosmetic surgery is especially for men, if you surgerymaxx it's a secret you should be taking to your grave.

 

[Mastermind]

For real I've heard too many bluepilled people talk about how pathetic or sad cosmetic surgery is especially for men, if you surgerymaxx it's a secret you should be taking to your grave.

It's mostly foids who do that.
Their role as half-arsed natural selectors puts them against surgeries, beards, roiding, all kinds of male frauding and self-improvement mechanisms. You're not supposed to improve, they want to see your unfiltered genetic potential.

Also, you improving out of nowhere is a scenario people find creepy in general, they do not want anyone except theirselves to succeed in life.
That's why the world is crude and you shall be crude as well.

 

[oatmeal]

It's mostly foids who do that.
Their role as half-arsed natural selectors puts them against surgeries, beards, roiding, all kinds of male frauding and self-improvement mechanisms. You're not supposed to improve, they want to see your unfiltered genetic potential.

Also, you improving out of nowhere is a scenario people find creepy in general, they do not want anyone except theirselves to succeed in life.
That's why the world is crude and you shall be crude as well.

yeah well I guess they can eat shit then tbh lol. idc about their opinion if i did i wouldnt be here

 

[AutismMaxing]

I was alive back than.

David Deangelo....

David D needs to be in jail for fraud. Dude married a 1/10 IRL and only had 2 gfs in his entire life.

I went deep into pickup, 98% scam. All the Top PUA's have shit results when you dig deep into it (Mystery, Tyler, Julian, etc.), and only get laid 10 or so times a year while dedicating their entire lives to it, unless they're good looking in which case it's still worse than if they were using dating apps. Infields are frauded like hell in a million different ways, sometimes blurring out the face, not to hide the girls identity but to hide that she's a 1/10.

Sodini was a victim of much of that, although he still did something evil. He was gymMaxed but he wasn't skinMaxed, HairMaxed, and 3rdWorldCountry Maxed. He may have been saved had he had all the information, creams, operations, and technologies available today. Then again, he was a shortcell.

Any who, it's nice to see a fellow oldcel in the comments here. I wonder what will be the next big thing after looks maxing; we think it's the be all end all (just like we did with pickup), but new and better tech always comes... maybe it'll be installing malware on women's neural chips so they obsess about us.

 

[Britmaxxer]

tik tok cringe compilations are just fat and ugly people doing what the chads do.


nobody takes body positivity seriously aside from liberal retards. everyone I know is looksmaxxing.

 

[eduardkoopman]

David D needs to be in jail for fraud. Dude married a 1/10 IRL and only had 2 gfs in his entire life.

I went deep into pickup, 98% scam. All the Top PUA's have shit results when you dig deep into it (Mystery, Tyler, Julian, etc.), and only get laid 10 or so times a year while dedicating their entire lives to it, unless they're good looking in which case it's still worse than if they were using dating apps. Infields are frauded like hell in a million different ways, sometimes blurring out the face, not to hide the girls identity but to hide that she's a 1/10.

Sodini was a victim of much of that, although he still did something evil. He was gymMaxed but he wasn't skinMaxed, HairMaxed, and 3rdWorldCountry Maxed. He may have been saved had he had all the information, creams, operations, and technologies available today. Then again, he was a shortcell.

Any who, it's nice to see a fellow oldcel in the comments here. I wonder what will be the next big thing after looks maxing; we think it's the be all end all (just like we did with pickup), but new and better tech always comes... maybe it'll be installing malware on women's neural chips so they obsess about us.

LOL. david deangeloo, is really a scammer. He went on to do other scammy thinkgs after the PUA-period. Yeah, he married a looksmatched woman. Which I find un-impressive for someone that is multi-mullionaire from his scams.

Was you also around in the Puahate times already? It was epic PUA-coach debunking that ahppened there (i like the Barry Kirkey radio SHow also, on PUA-coach debunk)
I was into PUA (starting with David Deanus) from like 2005-2009. Than at 2010 entered a LTR, and only stuck around to bash most PUA concepts and PUA-coaches, and I saw how bad most of the advice has been for me 20/20 hindsight.

I must say, for me. I only looksmaxxed for the firt in life with significant efforts. for about 1 year now. Biggest game changer in how i get treated in daily life, ever.
But I feel I'm kinda maxxed out (face). Only body needs some pimping, what I'm working on. Than maintenance mde, and hoepfully reaping teh rewards of these also hard works.

 

[Wallenberg]

I remember RSD Tyler. The blond-haired Aussie (?). He made a long DVD series called Blueprint or something. It was huge like 10 years ago.

I know a guy who was into PUA. Tall but ugly face and he sounds weird (he learned to speak quite late and required some kind of therapy). Despite approaching all the time he didn't get laid often. I really thought that his girlfriend was an obese transsexual. That tells everything.

 

[eduardkoopman]

David D needs to be in jail for fraud. I went deep into pickup, 98% scam.

I hate the guy, more and more I look into him now backwards.
It was all a marketing scam. he just came up wit stupid concept, how you can get any women by being a cocky funny comedian Jester.
That Brain Rose/London Real man. Is actually an even bigger scammer I know. he really cons, frauds, and so on, really next level and very bad.

David D.
Is just a good marketer.
He comes up with a stupid concept. And knows how to sell it. He knows how to sell anything. But he has no quality to it, at least his pua shit.

 

[reddollars]

It’s a good thing. The west is finished

 

[Deleted member 6908]

With the rise of TikTok, people have become more blackpilled than ever esp the younger gen z generation. TikTok is full of stacys and chads and beauty challenges to check if you're attractive. It seems that more people are starting to get surgeries esp normie tier stuff like rhinos and fillers; they're realising how important looks are. Back in early 2000s, people weren't this based.
I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.
Also it has become socially acceptable to bully ugly ppl as witnessed in tiktok comment section of uggos.

Tdlr: just imagine the competition if it became socially acceptable to get surgeries.

Price does tend to increase when demand does. However in this context I believe they'll just create a different set of tier levels of types of surgery and how adding more to your price will get you extras.

 

[AutismMaxing]

LOL. david deangeloo, is really a scammer. He went on to do other scammy thinkgs after the PUA-period. Yeah, he married a looksmatched woman. Which I find un-impressive for someone that is multi-mullionaire from his scams.

Was you also around in the Puahate times already? It was epic PUA-coach debunking that ahppened there (i like the Barry Kirkey radio SHow also, on PUA-coach debunk)
I was into PUA (starting with David Deanus) from like 2005-2009. Than at 2010 entered a LTR, and only stuck around to bash most PUA concepts and PUA-coaches, and I saw how bad most of the advice has been for me 20/20 hindsight.

I must say, for me. I only looksmaxxed for the firt in life with significant efforts. for about 1 year now. Biggest game changer in how i get treated in daily life, ever.
But I feel I'm kinda maxxed out (face). Only body needs some pimping, what I'm working on. Than maintenance mde, and hoepfully reaping teh rewards of these also hard works.

I checked out Puahate a few times but I never got really into it. That plua-coach debunk sounds amazing.

I was deep in pua though. I was part of a Lair in my city, and did minimum 5 approaches a day 6 days a week. I didn't just consume all the public info, but learned pretty advanced techniques that weren't public. Still I was a kissless virgin who had never even held a girls hands well through my mid 20s.

The one thing I did notice about the lair, is that guy's success directly correlated with their muscle mass and not with their skill or experience with pickup. Most of them 100% believed looks were not a factor, so placebo was not an explanation for this. So I eventually bulked up, and had some very mild success online. Not a virgin anymore, so there's that haha.

I remember RSD Tyler. The blond-haired Aussie (?). He made a long DVD series called Blueprint or something. It was huge like 10 years ago.

I know a guy who was into PUA. Tall but ugly face and he sounds weird (he learned to speak quite late and required some kind of therapy). Despite approaching all the time he didn't get laid often. I really thought that his girlfriend was an obese transsexual. That tells everything.

I do like RSD tyler. He did teach me things that helped me socially. They may have eventually helped with with women a little bit, but I don't know, going hard at the gym was the thing that got women to pay attention to me (even if it is still just 1 woman out of 1000 that I pursue). Yah the blueprint was the bible for pickup artists, even if they had a different style they still all knew all that inner game stuff.

I hate the guy, more and more I look into him now backwards.
It was all a marketing scam. he just came up wit stupid concept, how you can get any women by being a cocky funny comedian Jester.
That Brain Rose/London Real man. Is actually an even bigger scammer I know. he really cons, frauds, and so on, really next level and very bad.

David D.
Is just a good marketer.
He comes up with a stupid concept. And knows how to sell it. He knows how to sell anything. But he has no quality to it, at least his pua shit.

100% agree. Most of the big pickup artists selling products provided some value, even if it only gave you a super small edge over another guy with relatively equal looks, but David D was a complete scammer. He even scammed other pickup artists into working for him for free at his seminars to promote their products.

He changed his fake name to Eban Pagan after that and went on to teach marketing for obscene amounts of money.

I'm familiar with Brain Rose. Actually you-tube is still completely full of scammers. I think they will always exist. Now it's more life coaches, success guides, fake millionaires, etc. Then you have the supplement industry, 90% of it doesn't have long term benefits unless you're malnourished.

But all the fake stuff out there is positive for those of us can dig through things and figure out what's legit, because it camouflages the legit stuff (like some, but not all of the looks maxing stuff) so we get a competitive edge when we find it and are able to apply it correctly.

 

[patricknotstar]

With the rise of TikTok, people have become more blackpilled than ever esp the younger gen z generation. TikTok is full of stacys and chads and beauty challenges to check if you're attractive. It seems that more people are starting to get surgeries esp normie tier stuff like rhinos and fillers; they're realising how important looks are. Back in early 2000s, people weren't this based.
I'm just worried plastic surgery prices are gonna rise and countries are gonna become south korea 2.0 in the next 5 years if TikTok keeps going.
Also it has become socially acceptable to bully ugly ppl as witnessed in tiktok comment section of uggos.

Tdlr: just imagine the competition if it became socially acceptable to get surgeries.

cope, normies couldt see the blackpill if it was staring them right in the face

 

[eduardkoopman]

I checked out Puahate a few times but I never got really into it. That plua-coach debunk sounds amazing.

I was deep in pua though. I was part of a Lair in my city, and did minimum 5 approaches a day 6 days a week. I didn't just consume all the public info, but learned pretty advanced techniques that weren't public. Still I was a kissless virgin who had never even held a girls hands well through my mid 20s.

The one thing I did notice about the lair, is that guy's success directly correlated with their muscle mass and not with their skill or experience with pickup. Most of them 100% believed looks were not a factor, so placebo was not an explanation for this. So I eventually bulked up, and had some very mild success online. Not a virgin anymore, so there's that haha.



I do like RSD tyler. He did teach me things that helped me socially. They may have eventually helped with with women a little bit, but I don't know, going hard at the gym was the thing that got women to pay attention to me (even if it is still just 1 woman out of 1000 that I pursue). Yah the blueprint was the bible for pickup artists, even if they had a different style they still all knew all that inner game stuff.



100% agree. Most of the big pickup artists selling products provided some value, even if it only gave you a super small edge over another guy with relatively equal looks, but David D was a complete scammer. He even scammed other pickup artists into working for him for free at his seminars to promote their products.

He changed his fake name to Eban Pagan after that and went on to teach marketing for obscene amounts of money.

I'm familiar with Brain Rose. Actually you-tube is still completely full of scammers. I think they will always exist. Now it's more life coaches, success guides, fake millionaires, etc. Then you have the supplement industry, 90% of it doesn't have long term benefits unless you're malnourished.

But all the fake stuff out there is positive for those of us can dig through things and figure out what's legit, because it camouflages the legit stuff (like some, but not all of the looks maxing stuff) so we get a competitive edge when we find it and are able to apply it correctly.

cool reply.
my pua story and time was shorter lived than yours.

At 23 orso, and still vigin. Super shy, introverted type of person. And looks wise, I was like PSL3.5 range. Below average for sure, to maybe average range on a good day.
I embarked into pua. to get better with womens. Hitting way out my looks league, I had no success. the first 2 years orso. probabs like 200-300 appraoches in.
Than I finally lowered my standards of looks, and did i get some resluts. With women whom were also below average to average looking range. Than after losing my v-card and followed of 2 years by some limited successes. I enetered into a good LTR that lasted 5 years roughly.

good thing about pua for me.
being less high inhib
the massive rejections i ploughed through were [retty hardon me though.
i must have chatted up for sure more than 500 women, but less than 1000. in that time period. for 1 handfull of women leading to lays, flibngs, and 1 ltr.
kinda worth it though. but sucked also.

i say, kinda worth it though. because this horror scenario nightmare otherwise could had maybe been me. and that's imo even worse. than plowing through 500+ rejections for a handfull of lays. I would had been feeling so bad, if I was at 30+ still virgin. I would go crazy.

 

[Wallenberg]

I do like RSD tyler. He did teach me things that helped me socially. They may have eventually helped with with women a little bit, but I don't know, going hard at the gym was the thing that got women to pay attention to me (even if it is still just 1 woman out of 1000 that I pursue). Yah the blueprint was the bible for pickup artists, even if they had a different style they still all knew all that inner game stuff.

If I recall correctly, RSD was about the natural game, meaning that they don't give you lines on what to say, but teach you how to be confident, etc. I like the idea of the natural game. But I think they made it overly complicated to sell stuff. The blueprint was like what, over 20 hours?

The best and IMHO only things in PUA that work are confidence, relaxed body language, strong eye contact, not putting a woman on a pedestal, etc. These are important things, especially if you are an aspie suffering from social anxiety. Good stuff, but obviously you can't sell these tips for an expensive price. And by work, I mean that they might make 7/10 guy 8 or 9, but they won't make a 2/10 incel 9/10.