Bones that aren't good for implants and fillers

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Bones that aren't good for implants and fillers

I'm not a specialist or did any research about surgeries. Everything i learnt about surgeries, human anatomy etc are from going to consults and reading posts and threads on this forum. So take evrything i said with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong in the replies but this is what I've learnt.


Supraorbital implants (Brow Bone)

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This is the end game for all implantcels. By far the hardest area to augment with fillers or implants. Supraorbital rim implant look unnatural 99% of the time. The answer is very obvious just look at the brow bone it is very complex shape and has a lot of variations depending on ethnicities and even the individual. Lots of curves, edges and contours. It is the opposite of simple straight lines of the jaw bone that you want. The skin is also very thin and the muscles are constantly moving to create expressions. Any minor imperfection in an implant's shape becomes immediately visible. I've been told by surgeons that they avoid it entirely and don't even bother with the procedure


Orbital Rim Implants

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Same thing as above. Thin skin, shape isn't necessarily complex. It's just a groove but the problem is the skin it sits on is very thin. If the placement is off. The lower eyelid to pull downward or create a visible bulge. Fillers are much better in this region that implants because they don't need to be precise but they are still prone to tyndall effect and puffiness migration. You can also do fat migration but that comes with its own problem


Nasal bones
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This heavily depends on ethnicity but I'm talking from the perspective of someone with a caucasian skull. Same story with the nasal bone and nasal bridge. The skin here is even tighter than in the other two regions I mentioned. There's barely any room for fillers and implants so surgeons sometimes have to debulk tissue just to make room. Implants here tend to have floating stick like apperance because it cannot integrate with the jagged architecture of the natural nasal bone but Forget everything I just said if you have a mongoloid skull and just go to a Korean clinic.


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Another one that surgeons have warned me against is cheekbones implants. Especially the ones that try to add width or change the shape. Mentioned separately because they are not as hard as the ones above and there are some great results but I'd still stay cautious. Cheekbone shape isn't as complex as brow bone but still it's not flat either. Also major hub for facial muscle movement.


The recurring theme is the same. The bone is either too complex in shape, skin is too thin, presence of big muscles that keep moving or all of them together. Implants to look real and good need straight lines and skin that isn't too thin to hide imperfections. Most bones in a human face are flat and implants work well in most cases but for these it's a coin toss. Even with the best surgeons these regions are a gamble
 
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Bones that aren't good for implants and fillers

I'm not a specialist or did any research about surgeries. Everything i learnt about surgeries, human anatomy etc are from going to consults and reading posts and threads on this forum. So take evrything i said with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong in the replies but this is what I've learnt.


Supraorbital implants (Brow Bone)

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This is the end game for all implantcels. By far the hardest area to augment with fillers or implants. Supraorbital rim implant look unnatural 99% of the time. The answer is very obvious just look at the brow bone it is very complex shape and has a lot of variations depending on ethnicities and even the individual. Lots of curves, edges and contours. It is the opposite of simple straight lines of the jaw bone that you want. The skin is also very thin and the muscles are constantly moving to create expressions. Any minor imperfection in an implant's shape becomes immediately visible. I've been told by surgeons that they avoid it entirely and don't even bother with the procedure


Orbital Rim Implants

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Same thing as above. Thin skin, shape isn't necessarily complex. It's just a groove but the problem is the skin it sits on is very thin. If the placement is off. The lower eyelid to pull downward or create a visible bulge. Fillers are much better in this region that implants because they don't need to be precise but they are still prone to tyndall effect and puffiness migration. You can also do fat migration but that comes with its own problem


Nasal bones
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This heavily depends on ethnicity but I'm talking from the perspective of someone with a caucasian skull. Same story with the nasal bone and nasal bridge. The skin here is even tighter than in the other two regions I mentioned. There's barely any room for fillers and implants so surgeons sometimes have to debulk tissue just to make room. Implants here tend to have floating stick like apperance because it cannot integrate with the jagged architecture of the natural nasal bone. Forget everything I just said if you have a mongoloid skull and just go to a Korean clinic.


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Another one that surgeons have warned me against is cheekbones implants. Especially the ones that try to add width or change the shape. Mentioned separately because they are not as hard as the ones above and there are some great results but I'd still stay cautious. Cheekbone shape isn't as complex as brow bone but still it's not flat either. Also major hub for facial muscle movement.


The recurring theme is the same. The bone is either too complex in shape, skin is too thin, presence of big muscles or all of them together. Implants to look real and good need straight lines and skin that isn't too thin to hide imperfections. Most bones in a human face are flat and implants work well in most cases but for these it's a coin toss. Even with the best surgeons these regions are a gamble
I dont see how this would be bad for filler? there is ha upper eyelid filler that is really easy to do and with filler all these grooves dont matter much

I myself will be doing upper eyelid filler on my self post lateral canthoplasty in summer
 
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What are the problems with fat grafts for under eyes?
 
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I dont see how this would be bad for filler? there is ha upper eyelid filler that is really easy to do and with filler all these grooves dont matter much

I myself will be doing upper eyelid filler on my self post lateral canthoplasty in summer
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Not true, its super easy it probably says that because only a few injectors perform it as there is not much demand for it

Also im talking about upper eye lid to be specific

Look how easy it is:


You only really need to worry about the supraorbital artery in the notch you see below, which is why injectors use a cannuala in that bit:
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Also jason, who ever u went to for this advice has outdated info this used to be a problem for implants but its no longer a problem after with all the new tech out there, the tech basically makes custom implants for each person

Take a quick look at the new tech out there
 
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Also jason, who ever u went to for this advice has outdated info this used to be a problem for implants but its no longer a problem after with all the new tech out there, the tech basically makes custom implants for each person

Take a quick look at the new tech out there
What are these new tech you talk about. I'm not aware of them. But if you could give me some names of reference. I can look them up.
 
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Bones that aren't good for implants and fillers

I'm not a specialist or did any research about surgeries. Everything i learnt about surgeries, human anatomy etc are from going to consults and reading posts and threads on this forum. So take evrything i said with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong in the replies but this is what I've learnt.


Supraorbital implants (Brow Bone)

View attachment 5033160View attachment 5033161


This is the end game for all implantcels. By far the hardest area to augment with fillers or implants. Supraorbital rim implant look unnatural 99% of the time. The answer is very obvious just look at the brow bone it is very complex shape and has a lot of variations depending on ethnicities and even the individual. Lots of curves, edges and contours. It is the opposite of simple straight lines of the jaw bone that you want. The skin is also very thin and the muscles are constantly moving to create expressions. Any minor imperfection in an implant's shape becomes immediately visible. I've been told by surgeons that they avoid it entirely and don't even bother with the procedure


Orbital Rim Implants

View attachment 5033185View attachment 5033186

Same thing as above. Thin skin, shape isn't necessarily complex. It's just a groove but the problem is the skin it sits on is very thin. If the placement is off. The lower eyelid to pull downward or create a visible bulge. Fillers are much better in this region that implants because they don't need to be precise but they are still prone to tyndall effect and puffiness migration. You can also do fat migration but that comes with its own problem


Nasal bones
View attachment 5033199View attachment 5033201

This heavily depends on ethnicity but I'm talking from the perspective of someone with a caucasian skull. Same story with the nasal bone and nasal bridge. The skin here is even tighter than in the other two regions I mentioned. There's barely any room for fillers and implants so surgeons sometimes have to debulk tissue just to make room. Implants here tend to have floating stick like apperance because it cannot integrate with the jagged architecture of the natural nasal bone but Forget everything I just said if you have a mongoloid skull and just go to a Korean clinic.


View attachment 5033215

Another one that surgeons have warned me against is cheekbones implants. Especially the ones that try to add width or change the shape. Mentioned separately because they are not as hard as the ones above and there are some great results but I'd still stay cautious. Cheekbone shape isn't as complex as brow bone but still it's not flat either. Also major hub for facial muscle movement.


The recurring theme is the same. The bone is either too complex in shape, skin is too thin, presence of big muscles that keep moving or all of them together. Implants to look real and good need straight lines and skin that isn't too thin to hide imperfections. Most bones in a human face are flat and implants work well in most cases but for these it's a coin toss. Even with the best surgeons these regions are a gamble
Nice thread boyo
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I think you're oversimplifying things when you say that the infra and the supra are almost the same thing

I completely agree with what was said above

And to say that one or the other is better really depends on the problem you're trying to solve

cool treads tho
 
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Before starting keep in mind there are so many advancements that aid in this but here are a few

I can not stress this is nowhere near what is available out there

PSI:
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VSP:
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Intraoperative navigation:
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Modular titanium implants:
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Ai assisted design:
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Bones that aren't good for implants and fillers

I'm not a specialist or did any research about surgeries. Everything i learnt about surgeries, human anatomy etc are from going to consults and reading posts and threads on this forum. So take evrything i said with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong in the replies but this is what I've learnt.


Supraorbital implants (Brow Bone)

View attachment 5033160View attachment 5033161


This is the end game for all implantcels. By far the hardest area to augment with fillers or implants. Supraorbital rim implant look unnatural 99% of the time. The answer is very obvious just look at the brow bone it is very complex shape and has a lot of variations depending on ethnicities and even the individual. Lots of curves, edges and contours. It is the opposite of simple straight lines of the jaw bone that you want. The skin is also very thin and the muscles are constantly moving to create expressions. Any minor imperfection in an implant's shape becomes immediately visible. I've been told by surgeons that they avoid it entirely and don't even bother with the procedure


Orbital Rim Implants

View attachment 5033185View attachment 5033186

Same thing as above. Thin skin, shape isn't necessarily complex. It's just a groove but the problem is the skin it sits on is very thin. If the placement is off. The lower eyelid to pull downward or create a visible bulge. Fillers are much better in this region that implants because they don't need to be precise but they are still prone to tyndall effect and puffiness migration. You can also do fat migration but that comes with its own problem


Nasal bones
View attachment 5033199View attachment 5033201

This heavily depends on ethnicity but I'm talking from the perspective of someone with a caucasian skull. Same story with the nasal bone and nasal bridge. The skin here is even tighter than in the other two regions I mentioned. There's barely any room for fillers and implants so surgeons sometimes have to debulk tissue just to make room. Implants here tend to have floating stick like apperance because it cannot integrate with the jagged architecture of the natural nasal bone but Forget everything I just said if you have a mongoloid skull and just go to a Korean clinic.


View attachment 5033215

Another one that surgeons have warned me against is cheekbones implants. Especially the ones that try to add width or change the shape. Mentioned separately because they are not as hard as the ones above and there are some great results but I'd still stay cautious. Cheekbone shape isn't as complex as brow bone but still it's not flat either. Also major hub for facial muscle movement.


The recurring theme is the same. The bone is either too complex in shape, skin is too thin, presence of big muscles that keep moving or all of them together. Implants to look real and good need straight lines and skin that isn't too thin to hide imperfections. Most bones in a human face are flat and implants work well in most cases but for these it's a coin toss. Even with the best surgeons these regions are a gamble
Nigga used doctor Taban pics JFL
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