Bonesmashing pioneers

[Seeyenar]

Has anyone ventured into hitting any areas of the face that aren't the zygos, chin, jaw corners, and brow ridge?

These are obviously the most well documented areas for swelling results but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who tried anything else.

inb4 bonesmashing doesn't work, forget about that. This post is purely about visible swelling results.

 

[sherry12]

I’ve had a lot of success bone smShing my nasal radix and effects seem to be permanent

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

as other dude said the radix works

I used to get swelling that looked equal all over my mandible by oiling it up like some cheeks, then running a gua sha on it and pressing hard as fuck with my head tilted back to pull my skin tighter to the bone itself, then scraping making sure I felt every mini bump run along the glass when I was a fucking retard, and I got swelling, but it fried my skin, so I stopped. not sure how you would be able to hit stuff in the same spot over and over without scraping that area so thats what I did

Has anyone ventured into hitting any areas of the face that aren't the zygos, chin, jaw corners, and brow ridge?

These are obviously the most well documented areas for swelling results but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who tried anything else.

inb4 bonesmashing doesn't work, forget about that. This post is purely about visible swelling results.

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Has anyone ventured into hitting any areas of the face that aren't the zygos, chin, jaw corners, and brow ridge?

These are obviously the most well documented areas for swelling results but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who tried anything else.

inb4 bonesmashing doesn't work, forget about that. This post is purely about visible swelling results.

@CheeseTouch is the legend who says he had midface growth lol. Need to research scar tissue buildup when hitting such areas

 

[maxx92765]

Has anyone ventured into hitting any areas of the face that aren't the zygos, chin, jaw corners, and brow ridge?

These are obviously the most well documented areas for swelling results but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who tried anything else.

inb4 bonesmashing doesn't work, forget about that. This post is purely about visible swelling results.

 

[Seeyenar]

I’ve had a lot of success bone smShing my nasal radix and effects seem to be permanent

yeah that's interesting to hear, really easy access for hitting as well.

How long did your period of hitting it last until you reached ideal prominence?

 

[sherry12]

yeah that's interesting to hear, really easy access for hitting as well.

How long did your period of hitting it last until you reached ideal prominence?

Still not quite there, a month of almost daily hitting until brushing

 

[ccwb]

Has anyone ventured into hitting any areas of the face that aren't the zygos, chin, jaw corners, and brow ridge?

These are obviously the most well documented areas for swelling results but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who tried anything else.

inb4 bonesmashing doesn't work, forget about that. This post is purely about visible swelling results.

Why are we still on bonesmashing
Do bone weight bearing man

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

Why are we still on bonesmashing
Do bone weight bearing man

because of my unprecedented thread on it

 

[tomahawk]

even if bonesmashing were to give you higher bone density it doesnt equate to periosteal expansion
and it wont even highen bonemass if anything itll just cause resorption

 

[Seeyenar]

even if bonesmashing were to give you higher bone density it doesnt equate to periosteal expansion
and it wont even highen bonemass if anything itll just cause resorption

As i said i don't really care to discuss with users on the efficacy of bonesmashing as a method itself

But what you typed out is not a good argument against it, bone resorption is not a risk unless hitting with extreme force.

 

[tomahawk]

As i said i don't really care to discuss with users on the efficacy of bonesmashing as a method itself

But what you typed out is not a good argument against it, bone resorption is not a risk unless hitting with extreme force.

if you hit your bone its not gonna fucking grow + the SPH argument is bullshit

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

even if bonesmashing were to give you higher bone density it doesnt equate to periosteal expansion
and it wont even highen bonemass if anything itll just cause resorption

https://looksmax.org/threads/pics-d...ll-denial-ends-here-tbh.1912092/post-26939583
^mechanism best supported

not bone not bone thickening either

 

[tomahawk]

https://looksmax.org/threads/pics-d...ll-denial-ends-here-tbh.1912092/post-26939583
^mechanism best supported

not bone not bone thickening either

is this the SPH argument?

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

even if bonesmashing were to give you higher bone density it doesnt equate to periosteal expansion
and it wont even highen bonemass if anything itll just cause resorption

As i said i don't really care to discuss with users on the efficacy of bonesmashing as a method itself

But what you typed out is not a good argument against it, bone resorption is not a risk unless hitting with extreme force.

Is the brutal amount of bone atrophy in the room with us?
"won't heighten bone mass" correct in my guess, but "just cause re-absorption"...

Will see how much of this is permanent hardened collagenous matrix vs how much is still immature newer collagenous matrix that will actually get re-absorbed once I take a break soon. Had already hit it between first and decent pic over these couple yrs some but now very intentionally

Also idk how i didn't see way more clearly the importance of a proper chin for male aesthetics earlier

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

if you hit your bone its not gonna fucking grow + the SPH argument is bullshit

is this the SPH argument?

yaeh we fucking agree lol

 

[tomahawk]

https://looksmax.org/threads/pics-d...ll-denial-ends-here-tbh.1912092/post-26939583
^mechanism best supported

not bone not bone thickening either

this is bullshit
the actual chance of getting a specifically SUBPERIOSTEAL hematoma is very low (<1%)
even if you get it you have to somehow retain it for 8-12 weeks for growth
even if you do you somehow have to get lucky satelite cells get there, angiogenesis happens and then ossification which can and will likely be uneven

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Is the brutal amount of bone atrophy in the room with us?
"won't heighten bone mass" correct in my guess, but "just cause re-absorption"...

Will see how much of this is permanent hardened collagenous matrix vs how much is still immature newer collagenous matrix that will actually get re-absorbed once I take a break soon. Had already hit it between first and decent pic over these couple yrs some but now very intentionally

Also idk how i didn't see way more clearly the importance of a proper chin for male aesthetics earlier

what is the context of the pictures? are you sure this isnt just age?

 

[Seeyenar]

if you hit your bone its not gonna fucking grow + the SPH argument is bullshit

Same user who thinks you can reliably isolate the zygo from the maxilla and expand them outwards

And no i'm not expecting bone growth from bonesmashing

I was always the first to call out the wolff's law grift

SPH doesn't seem to be as valid as fibrosis, but whether its a combination of the two still needs to be decided.

 

[tomahawk]

Same user who thinks you can reliably isolate the zygo from the maxilla and expand them outwards

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And no i'm not expecting bone growth from bonesmashing

I was always the first to call out the wolff's law grift

SPH doesn't seem to be as valid as fibrosis, but whether its a combination of the two still needs to be decided.

you can? are you unfamiliar with the zygomaticomaxillary fissure?
oh fibrosis? let me read more

 

[tomahawk]

I measured and your chin to philtrum didnt change at all @SpectrumAesthetics3
you just lost fat and got in better lighting

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

this is bullshit
the actual chance of getting a specifically SUBPERIOSTEAL hematoma is very low (<1%)
even if you get it you have to somehow retain it for 8-12 weeks for growth
even if you do you somehow have to get lucky satelite cells get there, angiogenesis happens and then ossification which can and will likely be uneven

what is the context of the pictures? are you sure this isnt just age?

ur killin me over here
I linked a thread on an AI summary of this being almost certainly scar tissue accumulation response NOT bone NOT hematomas etc

Pics are from my thread documenting a years-long bonesmashing transformation documenting many stages and bodyfats along the way, no got gonna link it here if you will argue with me over something we agree on because you didn't look at the last link I posted

cage

 

[FoidFumbler]

wow

 

[tomahawk]

ur killin me over here
I linked a thread on an AI summary of this being almost certainly scar tissue accumulation response NOT bone NOT hematomas etc

Pics are from my thread documenting a years-long bonesmashing transformation documenting many stages and bodyfats along the way, no got gonna link it here if you will argue with me over something we agree on because you didn't look at the last link I posted

cage

i dnrd
the measurements of yours did not change at all
your gains are not from bonesmashing

 

[Seeyenar]

I measured and your chin to philtrum didnt change at all @SpectrumAesthetics3
you just lost fat and got in better lighting

I Don't think he has ever claimed measurable chin height increases

@SpectrumAesthetics3 Don't think you even attempted to increase chin height did you? mainly projection and width

 

[tomahawk]

I Don't think he has ever claimed measurable chin height increases

@SpectrumAesthetics3 Don't think you even attempted to increase chin height did you? mainly projection and width

show me the side @SpectrumAesthetics3

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

i dnrd
the measurements of yours did not change at all
your gains are not from bonesmashing

I Don't think he has ever claimed measurable chin height increases

@SpectrumAesthetics3 Don't think you even attempted to increase chin height did you? mainly projection and width

show me the side @SpectrumAesthetics3

@seeyenar this is the worst conversation I have had on here in a while to the point it is incredible
I link something about scar tissue mechanism (so, against the hematoma theory), in agreement with him on that – doesn't click to read the comment, assumes it is in SUPPORT of the subperiosteal hematoma thing, and lambasts me over this

then starts by debunking pictures based on the challenges with hematoma theory (again, we both agree on this), not the actual pics

then gets to the actual pics, assumes that I am claiming chin height gains (I don't think I have chin height gains; I've done it some, but never effectively or as the main target over the years, and EVEN NOW, that I am doing it more effectively, I am only hitting it on one side of the bottom to correct a very subtle imbalance which is still there in height)

I am clear in the thread, which he'd rather make assumptions about vs. look thru given he argued with me after assuming I was posting a counter-argument comment link earlier, that it is mainly chin width I was doing and that is obvious

The further obvious point is the brutal asymmetry on bottom before, very uneven, which I have largely fixed and now am looking to totally fix. But no, ignore this obvious change and point about chinphiltrum instead

Last, he wants me to paste side profile pics here. Despite 1) ignoring linked comment earlier, leading to retarded behavior, and 2) not looking up the principle bonesmashing thread that I twice mentioned here, which HAS side profile pics (in the comments at least, not the post, which I wasn't focusing on when collating front profile pics) and provides all the context

This is insane, I'm not responding again just lol; not about being right or wrong, but about some people not even being able to have a convo on any sort of level intellectual playing field not even just IQ but being able to listen and not make assumption after assumption, making convo literally impossible, without possible foundation

Like, these are the kinds of people who destroy forums. Any forum that acquires too many of these will be unusable in due time

Further:
"the measurements of yours did not change at all
your gains are not from bonesmashing"
^Are these not 2 directly juxtaposed contradictory statements? Which is it– no changes in chin or in general, or there were "gains", but not from bonesmashing? I bet he would claim bodyfat loss or something. In ignorance of the shredded pics I posted with my face pics at various points in the thread. Not that he would look

 

[tomahawk]

@seeyenar this is the worst conversation I have had on here in a while to the point it is incredible
I link something about scar tissue mechanism (so, against the hematoma theory), in agreement with him on that – doesn't click to read the comment, assumes it is in SUPPORT of the subperiosteal hematoma thing, and lambasts me over this

I asked you the theory you present
you ignore
me assume its sph
you call me stupid for assuming while im in a rush

then starts by debunking pictures based on the challenges with hematoma theory (again, we both agree on this), not the actual pics

then gets to the actual pics, assumes that I am claiming chin height gains (I don't think I have chin height gains; I've done it some, but never effectively or as the main target over the years, and EVEN NOW, that I am doing it more effectively, I am only hitting it on one side of the bottom to correct a very subtle imbalance which is still there in height)

I assumed height
and the prominence only increased out of fat loss based on the given pictures

I am clear in the thread, which he'd rather make assumptions about vs. look thru given he argued with me after assuming I was posting a counter-argument comment link earlier, that it is mainly chin width I was doing and that is obvious

yes because I was busy but i have to make something out of given info
i didnt have time to think about bullshit

The further obvious point is the brutal asymmetry on bottom before, very uneven, which I have largely fixed and now am looking to totally fix. But no, ignore this obvious change and point about chinhiltrum instead

the asymmetry is a great point

 

[Seeyenar]

I asked you the theory you present
you ignore
me assume its sph
you call me stupid for assuming while im in a rush

I assumed height
and the prominence only increased out of fat loss based on the given pictures

yes because I was busy but i have to make something out of given info
i didnt have time to think about bullshit

the asymmetry is a great point

muh fat loss

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

I asked you the theory you present
you ignore
me assume its sph
you call me stupid for assuming while im in a rush

I'm not going to be blamed for this miscommunication, and I even made it clear in this thread I agreed with you

I assumed height
and the prominence only increased out of fat loss based on the given pictures

Ok; now that you know I spent 4hr putting together pic and description evidence in a thread to combat all of these responses, it is incumbent on you to look thru it, since this does not stand

yes because I was busy but i have to make something out of given info
i didnt have time to think about bullshit

the asymmetry is a great point

Dude I'm always open to hearing out anyone on how my pics are purely fat loss or angles or whatever if they dive into deep analysis to support their POV. Or to hear challenges to scar tissue theory or whatever. I am the main person promulgating bonesmashing here right now due in large part to the thread I posted, and so I feel responsible to discuss it fairly with anyone and hear people out as we figure out what does or doesn't make sense

But interactions have got to be better than this, it's frankly disheartening. This is not a fair way to communicate with someone, let alone someone who wants to be reasonable and hear other people out. This was crazy

 

[tomahawk]

I'm not going to be blamed for this miscommunication, and I even made it clear in this thread I agreed with you

Ok; now that you know I spent 4hr putting together pic and description evidence in a thread to combat all of these responses, it is incumbent on you to look thru it, since this does not stand

Dude I'm always open to hearing out anyone on how my pics are purely fat loss or angles or whatever if they dive into deep analysis to support their POV. Or to hear challenges to scar tissue theory or whatever. I am the main person promulgating bonesmashing here right now due in large part to the thread I posted, and so I feel responsible to discuss it fairly with anyone and hear people out as we figure out what does or doesn't make sense

But interactions have got to be better than this, it's frankly disheartening. This is not a fair way to communicate with someone, let alone someone who wants to be reasonable and hear other people out. This was crazy

I looked through it and you are right I agree with you

 

[ccwb]

because of my unprecedented thread on it

Constant weight is more proven to cause strain to bone more than sudden blows

 

[maxx92765]

Constant weight is more proven to cause strain to bone more than sudden blows

@SpectrumAesthetics3 @Seeyenar dont give into this baiter

 

[Seeyenar]

@SpectrumAesthetics3 @Seeyenar dont give into this baiter

He’s correct if we’re talking about wolff’s law

We’re not though

 

[ccwb]

@SpectrumAesthetics3 @Seeyenar dont give into this baiter

He’s correct if we’re talking about wolff’s law

We’re not though

I’m talkin about wolf’s law

 

[Seeyenar]

I’m talkin about wolf’s law

Why are we still on bonesmashing

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-does-bonesmashing-my-brow-ridge-hurt-so-bad.1874080/post-26240283

you were bonesmashing literally 1 month ago

You can't make this shit up

 

[pentamogged9000]

This post is purely about visible swelling results.

 

[Seeyenar]

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?

 

[ccwb]

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-does-bonesmashing-my-brow-ridge-hurt-so-bad.1874080/post-26240283

you were bonesmashing literally 1 month ago

You can't make this shit up

I still bone smash
You may misunderstood my point here
I realized sudden blows isn’t the most optimal way to induce noticeable growth
Rather constant weight placed above the bone
Maybe try to comprehend max

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

I still bone smash
You may misunderstood my point here
I realized sudden blows isn’t the most optimal way to induce noticeable growth
Rather constant weight placed above the bone
Maybe try to comprehend max

I’ve read about 100 books in the last year an am getting comprehensioncucked by this constant weight above the bone statement and what it refers to

 

[ccwb]

I’ve read about 100 books in the last year an am getting comprehensioncucked by this constant weight above the bone statement and what it refers to

You would’ve got way more results if you simply did bonesmashing the classic famous way
+
Constant weight
Put a knuckle over your zygo and push
Increase each time adjust
Till it feel sore
Research tjo

 

[SpectrumAesthetics3]

You would’ve got way more results if you simply did bonesmashing the classic famous way
+
Constant weight
Put a knuckle over your zygo and push
Increase each time adjust
Till it feel sore
Research tjo

I mean if it could induce scar tissue dense collagenous matrix then sure I’ve just never looked into it seem tougher fs

 

[ccwb]

I mean if it could induce scar tissue dense collagenous matrix then sure I’ve just never looked into it seem tougher fs

It works cuz
When u press you cause a slight dent in the bone very slight
And it directly stimulate osteoblast
Keep doing it till it enlargen

 

[xansholic]

It works cuz
When u press you cause a slight dent in the bone very slight
And it directly stimulate osteoblast
Keep doing it till it enlargen

how hard do i need to press

 

[Seeyenar]

I’ve read about 100 books in the last year an am getting comprehensioncucked by this constant weight above the bone statement and what it refers to

He's describing wolff's law

sustained pressure was always the basis of wolff's law, it got twisted into being about "sudden blows" by the people who popularized bonesmashing

But:

1. putting your facial bones under sustained pressure like you would with your leg is very impractical (i would like to see how this user goes about doing this) 2. we aren't even trying to model the bone anymore we're trying to induce fibrosis as per your method. so anything to do with osteoblast activity is redundant anyway

edit: i just saw his reply about pressing his knuckle against his zygo, jfl just hit your zygo at that point. You'll get your desired inflammation in a fraction of the time

 

[ccwb]

how hard do i need to press

Personal pain tolerance

 

[xansholic]

Personal pain tolerance

its quite high, and i dont want to get my zygos messed up

 

[ccwb]

its quite high, and i dont want to get my zygos messed up

No idea
Do it till sore then

 

[gskos]

I’ve had a lot of success bone smShing my nasal radix and effects seem to be permanent

Is it safe to bonesmash radix? Cause i heard that Its dangerous to hit that area

 

[Seeyenar]

@ccwb can you explain why you think pushing the bone is better than hitting it?

with regards to generating enough force, actually reaching peak swelling size and also the time it takes to get there

Hitting would seemingly be much more effective in these regards.

@SpectrumAesthetics3

 

[ccwb]

@ccwb can you explain why you think pushing the bone is better than hitting it?

with regards to generating enough force, actually reaching peak swelling size and also the time it takes to get there

Hitting would seemingly be much more effective in these regards.

@SpectrumAesthetics3

Cyclic loading is much better in terms of causing bone growth
That being said
Bojack explained that bone smashing and hitting it hard and suddenly is bad
Constant pressure is predictable strain to the bone causing immediate osteoblast activation
And usually people punch the bone very very hard there’s possible long term damage to the bone especially not as dense bones like the zygo
And they hit it very hard in a very short time
Constant weight prolonged time is way much safer and predictable