Bonesmashing will never be cope.

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I'll be addressing some concerns regarding bonesmashing in this post.

You've obviously seen these common low-iq rebuttals to any post about bonesmashing ever:

• "Bonesmashing will decrease your bonemass!"
• "Bonesmashing is cope!"
• "Bonesmashing doesn't work because it doesn't apply mechanical tension the way Wolff's Law intends!"
• "Bonesmashing only works if you are taking HGH!"

Let me explain why these are retarded arguments to make and why any amount of research will naturally point towards bonesmashing working:

"Bonesmashing will decrease your bonemass!"

Not at all, the anterior of all of your facial bones are made up of cortical bone tissue, which is the type of tissue that can be remodeled with mechanical tension. For context, the other bone tissue, which is cancellous bone tissue, is spongy bone tissue. Cancellous tissue cannot be remodeled, as impacts to it will reduce mass over time.

Research study that proves cortical bone tissue adapts to mechanical loading.

"Bonesmashing is cope!"

Self-experimenting for 2-3 months just to try it doesn't hurt JFL.

"Bonesmashing doesn't work because it doesn't apply mechanical tension the way Wolff's Law intends!"

Mechanical tension applied the way Wolff's Law intends, such as weight-bearing exercises, cause microfractures in cortical bone tissue in the area the exercise affects. When microfractures heal, the bone naturally thickens slightly to adapt to the pressure.

People tend to believe that Wolff's Law is simply stating that only the mechanical tension can make bones adapt, but that isn't true. In fact, the mechanical tissue is causing microfractures (#repost), which the bone adapts to. The bone does not adapt to the force, the bone adapts to the damage, not for the purpose of thickening, but for the purpose of withstanding similar damage and being able to heal again without fully fracturing or breaking.

This means that microfractures caused by impacts would be the same as microfractures caused by mechanical tension in theory. Obviously the difference between the two would be that the former would be much safer in practice than the latter.

Research study proving that bone fatigue in general can cause microfractures.

"Bonesmashing only works if you are taking HGH!"

HGH only increases the speed at which microfractures heal. Why would HGH improve results? HGH would only improve efficiency JFL.

Bonesmashing deniers LDAR.

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

Don't have to be a scientist to know that hitting your face isn't gonna do any good for you. This is cope and you know it. Stop breathing in the copium and just join us in the real world.

 

[SoylentChamp]

sub zero iq post

 

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Don't have to be a scientist to know that hitting your face isn't gonna do any good for you. This is cope and you know it. Stop breathing in the copium and just join us in the real world.

any amount of research and self-experimentation quite literally proves otherwise

 

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sub zero iq post

elaborate

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

any amount of research and self-experimentation quite literally proves otherwise

I have done research. And almost everyone says it is cope.

 

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I have done research. And almost everyone says it is cope.

share some of your research with me?

how many people have 100% tried it and claimed it to be cope?

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

share some of your research with me?

how many people have 100% tried it and claimed it to be cope?

Clavicular is pretty much living proof.

 

[pashanimair]

chat gpt low iq post

 

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Clavicular is pretty much living proof.

clavicular claimed it to be cope? where? he was the biggest advocate for years... as far as i know, the only thing he mentioned about it being cope is it being done wrong and for the wrong reasons?

fairly certain he stated that you should be doing it for the swelling rather than the increase in bone mass. likely because the increase in bone mass gets significantly slower and matters less with age. (the decrease in HGH production and the fact that looks matter less when you get older)

 

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chat gpt low iq post
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chatgpt where?

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

clavicular claimed it to be cope? where? he was the biggest advocate for years... as far as i know, the only thing he mentioned about it being cope is it being done wrong and for the wrong reasons?

fairly certain he stated that you should be doing it for the swelling rather than the increase in bone mass. likely because the increase in bone mass gets significantly slower and matters less with age. (the decrease in HGH production and the fact that looks matter less when you get older)

He does advocate it yes. But you can just see that bonesmashing didn't really aid his ascension. He surgerymaxxed got fillers used all kinds of peptides and yada yada. All bonesmashing did for him, was maybe at best very temporary swelling and likely aching afterwards. Hitting your face hard just for temporary swelling ain't worth it. Just surgery maxx or get fillers at that point instead.

 

[AryanSchizo]

bonesmashing

 

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He does advocate it yes. But you can just see that bonesmashing didn't really aid his ascension. He surgerymaxxed got fillers used all kinds of peptides and yada yada. All bonesmashing did for him, was maybe at best very temporary swelling and likely aching afterwards. Hitting your face hard just for temporary swelling ain't worth it. Just surgery maxx or get fillers at that point instead.

show proof of minimal or nonexistent changes

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

show proof of minimal or nonexistent changes

I don't have to prove anything. What do you think ascended him be honest? Just think for a sec. The ungodly amount of fillers and surgery AND peptides he used. Or the method where you hit your skull repeatedly that everyone calls cope.

 

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I don't have to prove anything. What do you think ascended him be honest? Just think for a sec. The ungodly amount of fillers and surgery AND peptides he used. Or the method where you hit your skull repeatedly that everyone calls cope.

lack of evidence JFL

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

lack of evidence JFL

You literally haven't provided any evidence either though? Literally all of this is she said he said. No proof, no study. Not even actual documented anectodal evidence.

 

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You literally haven't provided any evidence either though? Literally all of this is she said he said. No proof, no study. Not even actual documented anectodal evidence.

provided 2 research studies in my post? just say "DNR" next time retard

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

provided 2 research studies in my post? just say "DNR" next time retard

Ah, I didn't see. Well tbh this is all pretty much theoretical. And maybe bonesmashing does work to an extent to make your bones stronger. But I doubt it could genuinely grow your bones in an aesthetic matter

 

[suboptimus]

Ignore retards making claims without shit to back it up. High quality thread + great points on self experimenting.

 

[ScienceCel]

I'll be addressing some concerns regarding bonesmashing in this post.

You've obviously seen these common low-iq rebuttals to any post about bonesmashing ever:

• "Bonesmashing will decrease your bonemass!"
• "Bonesmashing is cope!"
• "Bonesmashing doesn't work because it doesn't apply mechanical tension the way Wolff's Law intends!"
• "Bonesmashing only works if you are taking HGH!"

Let me explain why these are retarded arguments to make and why any amount of research will naturally point towards bonesmashing working:


Not at all, the anterior of all of your facial bones are made up of cortical bone tissue, which is the type of tissue that can be remodeled with mechanical tension. For context, the other bone tissue, which is cancellous bone tissue, is spongy bone tissue. Cancellous tissue cannot be remodeled, as impacts to it will reduce mass over time.

Research study that proves cortical bone tissue adapts to mechanical loading.


Self-experimenting for 2-3 months just to try it doesn't hurt JFL.


Mechanical tension applied the way Wolff's Law intends, such as weight-bearing exercises, cause microfractures in cortical bone tissue in the area the exercise affects. When microfractures heal, the bone naturally thickens slightly to adapt to the pressure.

People tend to believe that Wolff's Law is simply stating that only the mechanical tension can make bones adapt, but that isn't true. In fact, the mechanical tissue is causing microfractures (#repost), which the bone adapts to. The bone does not adapt to the force, the bone adapts to the damage, not for the purpose of thickening, but for the purpose of withstanding similar damage and being able to heal again without fully fracturing or breaking.

This means that microfractures caused by impacts would be the same as microfractures caused by mechanical tension in theory. Obviously the difference between the two would be that the former would be much safer in practice than the latter.

Research study proving that bone fatigue in general can cause microfractures.


HGH only increases the speed at which microfractures heal. Why would HGH improve results? HGH would only improve efficiency JFL.

Bonesmashing deniers LDAR.

100% does increase bonemass but almost never in a good way just makes u look retarded

 

[SlayerJonas]

Self-experimenting for 2-3 months just to try it doesn't hurt JFL.

There have been thousands of individuals trying it out and not a single change was documented. How about you show your "progress".

Also JFL at you misinterpreting Wolff's law.

Your whole regurgitated pseudoscience got eviscerated ages ago already.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

show proof of minimal or nonexistent changes

That "proof" you're asking for is the absence of evidence stupid monkey.

100% does increase bonemass but almost never in a good way just makes u look retarded

Bone mass ≠ periosteal apposition. Periosteal apposition ≠ aesthetical changes.

 

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Also JFL at you misinterpreting Wolff's law.

Where did I misinterpret Wolff's law? It states that: "Bones adapt to the stresses placed on them; if a bone is subjected to increased load, it will remodel itself to become stronger. Conversely, if a bone experiences less stress, it can become weaker and less dense over time."

Where is the misinterpretation at? Bones adapt to the microtrauma caused by the stress placed on them.
Research article stating that bone remodeling occurs due to microtrauma caused by stress.

How did I misinterpret the law?

Your whole regurgitated pseudoscience got eviscerated ages ago already.

Never stated that bones were "growing," only thickening? Also, JFL at you quoting your own completely unrelated post. You're right that the concept of "growing" bones is entirely flawed, because bones can only grow if their growth plates are open, but our posts do not relate. I never mentioned "growing" bones, nor did I mention anything about roids, retard.

That "proof" you're asking for is the absence of evidence stupid monkey.

That "proof" I'm asking for can be easily handed over? It's literally comparing Clav's face from the first time he posted about bonesmashing when he wasn't swollen to now, retard.

Bone mass ≠ periosteal apposition. Periosteal apposition ≠ aesthetical changes.

Periosteal apposition quite literally increases bone mass by increasing the thickness of cortical bone tissue, which expands the bone's outer diameter, makes the bones more resistant to stress, and increases the bone mineral content and density at structural levels.

And, periosteal apposition can easily be equal to aesthetical changes depending on the increase in thickness of the cortical bone tissue. If you bonesmashed your zygos properly, they would become thicker over time, and therefore look larger than they did when the bonesmashing first began.

100% does increase bonemass but almost never in a good way just makes u look retarded

It does increase bone mass and can be in a good way, but the odds are low and requires high IQ bonesmashing. Without that, it can easily make you look retarded, yes

 

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That "proof" I'm asking for can be easily handed over? It's literally comparing Clav's face from the first time he posted about bonesmashing when he wasn't swollen to now, retard.

And while yes, this is technically anecdotal and cannot be 100% proven, all evidence when it comes to facially bonesmashing is anecdotal and cannot be 100% proven. You'd need to try it yourself or know someone who has tried it / does it consistently. Despite that, this would still be proof of results or lack of results.

 

[SlayerJonas]

Where did I misinterpret Wolff's law? It states that: "Bones adapt to the stresses placed on them; if a bone is subjected to increased load, it will remodel itself to become stronger. Conversely, if a bone experiences less stress, it can become weaker and less dense over time."

Where is the misinterpretation at? Bones adapt to the microtrauma caused by the stress placed on them.
Research article stating that bone remodeling occurs due to microtrauma caused by stress.

How did I misinterpret the law?

The law is not about hitting yourself in your fucking face nor can you extrapolate that bonesmashing works.

The only thing hitting your face does is increase inflammatory markers (IL-3, IL-6). You literally can't control the force in any way and the law itself states that certain amounts of force can actually harm le bone mass.

Never stated that bones were "growing," only thickening? Also, JFL at you quoting your own completely unrelated post. You're right that the concept of "growing" bones is entirely flawed, because bones can only grow if their growth plates are open, but our posts do not relate. I never mentioned "growing" bones

This limits the use case of your fucking retarded ignorant pseudoscience already. JFL that you think bonesmashing can imitate implants.

That "proof" I'm asking for can be easily handed over? It's literally comparing Clav's face from the first time he posted about bonesmashing when he wasn't swollen to now, retard.

His face literally didn't change because of that you imbecile. JFL that you cite his results even though he's literally against bonesmashing himself and concluded it didn't do a molecule. He isn't coping with shit like that anymore like you retard, piss off and kill yourself.

Periosteal apposition quite literally increases bone mass by increasing the thickness of cortical bone tissue, which expands the bone's outer diameter, makes the bones more resistant to stress, and increases the bone mineral content and density at structural levels.

And, periosteal apposition can easily be equal to aesthetical changes depending on the increase in thickness of the cortical bone tissue. If you bonesmashed your zygos properly, they would become thicker over time, and therefore look larger than they did when the bonesmashing first began.

This is simply not the case and the body literally has regulatory mechanisms limiting any unwanted growth. Also it'd be a long process, JFL at hitting yourself in the face for years for 1mm growth.

It does increase bone mass and can be in a good way, but the odds are low and requires high IQ bonesmashing. Without that, it can easily make you look retarded, yes

This literally makes it useless for the majority of users. Kill yourself, your thread is entirely useless.

Bonesmashing would be good if:

• you can control the bone thickening -> not asymmetrical
• it'd be a good investment time and effort-wise -> it isn't because it takes years (it doesn't even work)
• it wouldn't rape soft tissue -> it cucks your skin
• if it worked -> it doesn't

 

[chadisbeingmade]

requires high IQ bonesmashing

This sentence is hilarious

 

[grilldaddy❤️]

mirin effort

 

[SlayerJonas]

This sentence is hilarious

The trinity of Looksmaxxing:

- Thumbpulling
- MK677 for bone mass
- Bonesmashing

Surgery? Unnatural because Goatis said so.

mirin effort

Hope you enjoyed that pizza you obese monkey without determination.

 

[grilldaddy❤️]

The trinity of Looksmaxxing:

- Thumbpulling
- MK677 for bone mass
- Bonesmashing

Surgery? Unnatural because Goatis said so.

Hope you enjoyed that pizza you obese monkey without determination.

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F u man let me live

 

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The law is not about hitting yourself in your fucking face nor can you extrapolate that bonesmashing works.

The only thing hitting your face does is increase inflammatory markers (IL-3, IL-6). You literally can't control the force in any way and the law itself states that certain amounts of force can actually harm le bone mass.

How can't you extrapolate that bonesmashing works? Also, I never said that Wolff's law was about hitting yourself in the fucking face. I insinuated that it applies to hitting your face, but it isn't strictly about hitting yourself in the face.

You literally can control the force? How would you not be able to control the force? You are literally in full control of your hands, or your hammer, or your weights, or whatever object you use to bonesmash with. Nice work repeating exactly what I already stated about lack of force harming bone mass.

This limits the use case of your fucking retarded ignorant pseudoscience already. JFL that you think bonesmashing can imitate implants.

When did I say I thought bonesmashing could imitate implants? It's quite literally just thickening bone, it isn't the same nor looks the same as implants. JFL that you continue to misunderstand my posts.

And how does it limit the use case at all? You aren't "growing" bones by thickening them, I've already stated that more than several times. I was agreeing with you on that matter?

"ND chud loses all hope in bonesmashing thread" JFL.

This is simply not the case and the body literally has regulatory mechanisms limiting any unwanted growth. Also it'd be a long process, JFL at hitting yourself in the face for years for 1mm growth.

Can you elaborate as to how it isn't the case? If you can give controlled impact to the bone you are smashing (same force, speed, etc.) how would any bone resorption occur? And yes, it'd be a long process, and no, hitting yourself in the face for years would get a lot more than 1mm thickening.

This literally makes it useless for the majority of users. Kill yourself, your thread is entirely useless.

Just be high IQ?

Bonesmashing would be good if:

• you can control the bone thickening -> not asymmetrical
• it'd be a good investment time and effort-wise -> it isn't because it takes years (it doesn't even work)
• it wouldn't rape soft tissue -> it cucks your skin
• if it worked -> it doesn't

Some level of bone thickening can be controlled, but it would largely be at least somewhat asymmetrical.
It's only a good investment of time and effort if you lack facial bone mass.
It does cuck your skin.
It does work, but requires high IQ circumstances.

High IQ pill is hard to swallow for some.

 

[shock]

The trinity of Looksmaxxing:

- Thumbpulling
- MK677 for bone mass
- Bonesmashing

Surgery? Unnatural because Goatis said so.

Don't forget those massai jumps!

 

[SlayerJonas]

How can't you extrapolate that bonesmashing works? Also, I never said that Wolff's law was about hitting yourself in the fucking face. I insinuated that it applies to hitting your face, but it isn't strictly about hitting yourself in the face.

You literally can control the force? How would you not be able to control the force? You are literally in full control of your hands, or your hammer, or your weights, or whatever object you use to bonesmash with. Nice work repeating exactly what I already stated about lack of force harming bone mass.

Good luck trying to hit each part of your bones with the same constant force over and over. This just asks for failure.

When did I say I thought bonesmashing could imitate implants? It's quite literally just thickening bone, it isn't the same nor looks the same as implants. JFL that you continue to misunderstand my posts.

And how does it limit the use case at all? You aren't "growing" bones by thickening them, I've already stated that more than several times. I was agreeing with you on that matter?

I didn't even remention that. Bones thickening is per definition a type of growth.

"ND chud loses all hope in bonesmashing thread" JFL.


Can you elaborate as to how it isn't the case? If you can give controlled impact to the bone you are smashing (same force, speed, etc.) how would any bone resorption occur? And yes, it'd be a long process, and no, hitting yourself in the face for years would get a lot more than 1mm thickening.

That's what the law you're citing says. Go talk to Wolff in the afterlife retard, I'll make you join him soon.

Just be high IQ?

This coming from a retard protecting his bonesmashing addiction makes it even funnier.

Some level of bone thickening can be controlled, but it would largely be at least somewhat asymmetrical.

This makes it useless unless you want to look like a deformed "ogre", if you could achieve the desired growth.

It's only a good investment of time and effort if you lack facial bone mass.
It does cuck your skin.
It does work, but requires high IQ circumstances.

First point is straight up H2O. Obviously no need to do something to achieve something you already have. The second point further adds to my point of bonesmashing being a looksmin in some cases even, not just "not working" in terms of bone thickening.

Anyway, just trying to make people aware. Keep on bonesmashing if you want to believe in it but know the consequences of your actions.

High IQ pill is hard to swallow for some.

You're the type of person that would overdose on LSD.