[BRAG THREAD] Looks isnt any value in men nowadays. Being GL is the bare minimum

[russiancelreturns]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

 

[NiZr]

what

 

[hypernormie]

Hypergamy is increasing. Being hot is now the bare minimum

Soon you will have to be hot + make atleast $100k/year before taxes in a interesting and dynamic career

 

[russiancelreturns]

Hypergamy is increasing. Being hot is now the bare minimum

Soon you will have to be hot + make atleast $100k/year before taxes in a interesting and dynamic career

lol i was just reading your thread about being dark triad low inhibit dom.

it looks like such behavior is mandatory in 2025 to get laid on dates cuz despite the fact i can get few women messaged me daily i cant get shit on dates

i met 35 foids and got 0 slays within a few months

 

[ascend.exe]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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I get what ur saying, Im a fucking loser virgin at 18 for the same reason, but I think its my personality too.

girls expect way too much nowadays, "just be 5'10+, have big muscles and lean abs, good looks and hair, a car to drive around in, money to spend on me and a huge 8 inch cock and you have to last at least 10 minutes!!!"

Seriously, this drives me insane. Am I wrong, they expect everything. No wonder Clav is going insane and thinks that this is the worst generation to live in. Maybe he is right.

 

[PsychoDsk]

it's because you act and text like a bitch

 

[russiancelreturns]

it's because you act and text like a bitch

wdym

 

[PsychoDsk]

wdym

she doesn't care u have short hair now and look like a ck model and she sure doesn't want to be asked to see more pictures

u have to be mentally deranged to pull bitches, being normal gets you nowhere

 

[russiancelreturns]

she doesn't care u have short hair now and look like a ck model and she sure doesn't want to be asked to see more pictures

u have to be mentally deranged to pull bitches, being normal gets you nowhere

i met 35 bitches within few months and pulled 0, all ghosted/flaked on me

im a light triad good boy. Christian and family oriented!

 

[hypernormie]

lol i was just reading your thread about being dark triad low inhibit dom.

it looks like such behavior is mandatory in 2025 to get laid on dates cuz despite the fact i can get few women messaged me daily i cant get shit on dates

i met 35 foids and got 0 slays within a few months

What thread?

Interesting, that signals one of two things

Either you aren't dominant and sexually forward enough to capitalize on women's sexual interest

Or

Women see you as a beta bux free dinner use for entertainment only and aren't actually meeting up with sexual intentions

For example

I don't take women on dates, haven't done that in like 8 years. All my slays are straight to the house because I know women nowadays are liable to fuck around and try and play you if you give them the opportunity

Knowing this, my solution is to just not give them the opportunity

35 foids and zero slays is crazy

Idk if you have to be full dark triad dom to slay but it could be that I'm far more dark triad and dom than the average man than I realize since I've been in this for a while at this point

 

[hypernormie]

I get what ur saying, Im a fucking loser virgin at 18 for the same reason, but I think its my personality too.

girls expect way too much nowadays, "just be 5'10+, have big muscles and lean abs, good looks and hair, a car to drive around in, money to spend on me and a huge 8 inch cock and you have to last at least 10 minutes!!!"

Seriously, this drives me insane. Am I wrong, they expect everything. No wonder Clav is going insane and thinks that this is the worst generation to live in. Maybe he is right.

There's no law in the universe that says women en masse can't demand a standard that the average man is incapable of reaching

It's true that it's unfortunate to be alive in this time in the west if you aren't a GL slayer. You aren't going crazy, this is an absurd demand for the average woman to make on her average male counterpart but alas that is the situation and it will likely keep getting worse for a while

Some cracks ARE starting to show though, but that doesn't mean the system is going to course correct any time soon

 

[foidletslayer]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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Huh

 

[ascend.exe]

There's no law in the universe that says women en masse can't demand a standard that the average man is incapable of reaching

It's true that it's unfortunate to be alive in this time in the west if you aren't a GL slayer. You aren't going crazy, this is an absurd demand for the average woman to make on her average male counterpart but alas that is the situation and it will likely keep getting worse for a while

Some cracks ARE starting to show though, but that doesn't mean the system is going to course correct any time soon

no wonder we are all "toxically masculine" because that is what they expect of us.

they want us to be their perfect little super soldiers.

 

[russiancelreturns]

What thread?

Interesting, that signals one of two things

Either you aren't dominant and sexually forward enough to capitalize on women's sexual interest

Or

Women see you as a beta bux free dinner use for entertainment only and aren't actually meeting up with sexual intentions

For example

I don't take women on dates, haven't done that in like 8 years. All my slays are straight to the house because I know women nowadays are liable to fuck around and try and play you if you give them the opportunity

Knowing this, my solution is to just not give them the opportunity

35 foids and zero slays is crazy

Idk if you have to be full dark triad dom to slay but it could be that I'm far more dark triad and dom than the average man than I realize since I've been in this for a while at this point

i take them for drinks and just buy a drink and thats all. I tried to escalate with a light touch and they were mostly good with this but once i offered come to my place they always gave some excuse like they have to wake up early etc.

and afterwards they unfollowed me or just replied with few words like it was nice to meet me etc and ghosted on IG

 

[hypernormie]

i take them for drinks and just buy a drink and thats all. I tried to escalate with a light touch and they were mostly good with this but once i offered come to my place they always gave some excuse like they have to wake up early etc.

and afterwards they unfollowed me or just replied with few words like it was nice to meet me etc and ghosted on IG

Interesting, you need to figure out how they are categorizing you

Going out for drinks is vague, some women may go out from drinks with guys they want to fuck, many will go out for drinks with guys they have no intention of fucking

If you want to diagnose what the problem is you have to figure out how these women are categorizing you and a good way to do that is to be more polarizing and sexual pre meetup

If women are seeing you as a beta bux nice guy to take advantage of, you need to eliminate them from the pool before you commit to a date

Making your intentions clear from the start will do that

I would recommend not going on dates at all if you can avoid it but one step at a time

 

[PrettyLights]

lol i was just reading your thread about being dark triad low inhibit dom.

it looks like such behavior is mandatory in 2025 to get laid on dates cuz despite the fact i can get few women messaged me daily i cant get shit on dates

i met 35 foids and got 0 slays within a few months

could you link the thread you're talking about or he's talking about ? @hypernormie

 

[dawooddX]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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I know mane

Gotta be 6.25+,top 15-20th percentile income atleast, height and frame. Well connections. Status, personality aswell haha

 

[russiancelreturns]

Interesting, you need to figure out how they are categorizing you

Going out for drinks is vague, some women may go out from drinks with guys they want to fuck, many will go out for drinks with guys they have no intention of fucking

If you want to diagnose what the problem is you have to figure out how these women are categorizing you and a good way to do that is to be more polarizing and sexual pre meetup

If women are seeing you as a beta bux nice guy to take advantage of, you need to eliminate them from the pool before you commit to a date

Making your intentions clear from the start will do that

I would recommend not going on dates at all if you can avoid it but one step at a time

they always say they wanna LTR

 

[Tyler1]

Maybe cuz ur a manlet

 

[russiancelreturns]

Maybe cuz ur a manlet

cope

 

[Tyler1]

cope

Noup it’s over if ur sub 180cm trust me

 

[hypernormie]

they always say they wanna LTR

Two ways to deal with this

1.Qualify harder

2.Develop a process of over coming this barrier

For 1. Qualify harder

Do what I already said which is be more polarizing pre meet up, this can even begin with your profile itself. Your pictures should be more exciting/bad boy vibe rather than approachable nice guy vibe. Dominant colors should be darker, reds, blacks, etc. take them closer to nighttime or in nighttime environments. Use AI if you need to get better photos quick.

Your bio should be polarizing and sexual

My old bio that I had a lot of luck with was "looking for a girl with a cute butt and a cool personality" I think I got this from some PUA somewhere but it worked quite well because women would respond by qualifying themselves on a sexual point saying something like "I have a great butt but you we'll have to see about the personality" or the opposite "I have a great personality but we'll have to see about he butt" which immediately sets the vibe as a sexual interaction

There a million ways to do this with your bio (but as we know bio is less important than photos)

Your messages should be with the goal of getting her to come to your place and should be explicitly about sex or imply heavily that sex will be happening

The second way of 2. developing a process is to disregard the relationship frame she is setting up and set up a sexual interaction despite her stated intentions

This means if she is framing your interaction as a potential LTR, you want to disregard this frame and treat it as a ONS. This means no dates whatsoever, sexualizing the convo and pulling straight to your house where sex is most likely to happen

No woman is coming to your house who isn't seriously considering sleeping with you, even if she isn't consciously aware that's what she is setting herself up to do. By nature of agreeing to come to a place so intimate she is tacitly agreeing to the possibility of a sexual encounter and this increases your odds of it happening

Then it's all about proper escalation and calibration in that location

Simply going out on dates is not going to be very effective because it does nothing about the disadvantageous frame she is setting up for your interaction

The potential LTR frame is the least likely to lead to sex because for one, it puts her in the seat as the buyer rather than the seller, and this forces you to qualify yourself to her which puts you in a lower value/lower dominance position and that is anti what hypergamy seeks in a mate

Next it isn't very sexual, LTR's as shown in popular media take time to lead to sex and time is the enemy here because it increases the odds something goes wrong and she disappears or finds a better option. You want to reduce the time to sex (and this ironically is the best way to get into an LTR but that's another convo)

Lastly it sets up a "dating frame" which means interacting with her outside of the sex location, which obviously reduces your odds of sex because you just aren't in an advantageous location to do it

If women are meeting up with you, you're clealry doing something right. The trick now is to steer these interactions towards the desired outcome.

 

[PrettyLights]

Making your intentions clear from the start will do that

won't letting them know you want to have sex off the rip creep them out

 

[PrettyLights]

Two ways to deal with this

1.Qualify harder

2.Develop a process of over coming this barrier

For 1. Qualify harder

Do what I already said which is be more polarizing pre meet up, this can even begin with your profile itself. Your pictures should be more exciting/bad boy vibe rather than approachable nice guy vibe. Dominant colors should be darker, reds, blacks, etc. take them closer to nighttime or in nighttime environments. Use AI if you need to get better photos quick.

Your bio should be polarizing and sexual

My old bio that I had a lot of luck with was "looking for a girl with a cute butt and a cool personality" I think I got this from some PUA somewhere but it worked quite well because women would respond by qualifying themselves on a sexual point saying something like "I have a great butt but you we'll have to see about the personality" or the opposite "I have a great personality but we'll have to see about he butt" which immediately sets the vibe as a sexual interaction

There a million ways to do this with your bio (but as we know bio is less important than photos)

Your messages should be with the goal of getting her to come to your place and should be explicitly about sex or imply heavily that sex will be happening

The second way of 2. developing a process is to disregard the relationship frame she is setting up and set up a sexual interaction despite her stated intentions

This means if she is framing your interaction as a potential LTR, you want to disregard this frame and treat it as a ONS. This means no dates whatsoever, sexualizing the convo and pulling straight to your house where sex is most likely to happen

No woman is coming to your house who isn't seriously considering sleeping with you, even if she isn't consciously aware that's what she is setting herself up to do. By nature of agreeing to come to a place so intimate she is tacitly agreeing to the possibility of a sexual encounter and this increases your odds of it happening

Then it's all about proper escalation and calibration in that location

Simply going out on dates is not going to be very effective because it does nothing about the disadvantageous frame she is setting up for your interaction

The potential LTR frame is the least likely to lead to sex because for one, it puts her in the seat as the buyer rather than the seller, and this forces you to qualify yourself to her which puts you in a lower value/lower dominance position

Next it isn't very sexual, LTR's as shown in popular media take time to lead to sex and time is the enemy here because it increases the odds something goes wrong and she disappears or finds a better option. You want to reduce the time to sex (and this ironically is the best way to get into an LTR but that's another convo)

Lastly it sets up a "dating frame" which means interacting with her outside of the sex location, which obviously reduces your odds of sex because you just aren't in an advantageous location to do it

nvm i answered my own question by lowkey reading ts

 

[hypernormie]

won't letting them know you want to have sex off the rip creep them out

Not if you do it intelligently and she already finds you sufficiently attractive that the mere idea isn't abhorrent to her

 

[New Poster]

I got that a ton on online dating. It’s par for the course. It’s why online means nothing. Only irl matters.

 

[PrettyLights]

intelligently

iqpill. brutal

 

[hypernormie]

iqpill. brutal

If you need me to explain how to do to it I can

 

[PrettyLights]

If you need me to explain how to do to it I can

yeah i need to make it look like everything just happened on accident and that i had no intentions of having sexual relations when in reality i do

 

[PrettyLights]

If you need me to explain how to do to it I can

i got jebaited so hard right here

 

[hypernormie]

yeah i need to make it look like everything just happened on accident and that i had no intentions of having sexual relations when in reality i do

Yeah then what you need to do is understand the sexual process and control every variable up until sex

When it comes to messaging this means:

-Beginning with the end in mind (sex)
-Constantly escalating towards sex
-Rewarding compliance
-Punishing non compliance
-Framing yourself as the buyer
-Building her investment

Beginning with the end in mind means knowing the goal is sex and treating this as the purpose of the interaction

This helps do the next thing which is constantly escalate, the typical ABC (Always Be Closing) mindset. Every message should have a purpose and every purpose is satisfying one of the other points on the list and the ultimate goal of sex

For example you want to reward compliance with your sexual framing by responding or pumping her dopamine when she goes along with a sexual joke, innuendo or request

You want to punish non compliance when she ignores or shuts down sexual framing/escalation

You should avoid overt punishments of non compliance because that looks butthurt which is low value = anti hypergamy (you want to be high value in her eyes.) the best ways to punish non compliance are through teasing, takeaways and low investment

The goal is to flip the investment in your favor, you want her chasing, the way you get her chasing is by getting her to invest and ideally you are getting her to invest along sexual lines

This requires patience and diligence upfront, similar to catching a fish, you want to get her to bite and then once she bites you want to gradually tighten the line and reel her in until you feel it's safe to "go for the kill" so to speak and close

The most important part of messaging is flipping investment in your favor, you want her doing most of the messaging and communicating. It is only from there that you can punish/reward compliance, comfortably escalate and build for the close

The best way to flip investment is with humor, wittiness and teasing

Flipped investment is when she is doing the bulk of the messaging. This means her messages are longer than yours and she is sending more of them.

Quick tips to solidifying investment are to try and reduce the size of your messages to as small as possible.

Your messages should be incredibly easy to reply to. Women hate to think and they hate to have to work, you want the reply to your messages to be practically guaranteed, so much so you can basically predict her response

Knowing this you should also be steering her responses in advantageous ways to your ultimate goal of sex. This means try to steer her responses in ways that increase compliance and reduce non compliance or disagreement.

This part requires a lot of working memory and context manipulation and is the hardest part of the whole thing

I would give examples but my brain has been too fried by my health issues to do so. I've basically stopped trying to slay for the time being because I just can't manage the brainpower to do it effectively so you aren't wrong about the iqpill

 

[GoErOnFoids]

I would like to ravage a pussy but not happening for a long time…

 

[jaaba]

Hypergamy is increasing. Being hot is now the bare minimum

Soon you will have to be hot + make atleast $100k/year before taxes in a interesting and dynamic career

Due to blackpill content becoming mainstream, even foids are now seeing videos of chads daily

It’s over my boyos

 

[hypernormie]

Due to blackpill content becoming mainstream, even foids are now seeing videos of chads daily

It’s over my boyos

Yeah I was thinking about this recently when walking past a high school. I was thinking "How many of these foids see blackpill edits of godly Chads mogging normies grace their TL on the daily?"

Its probably not a lot but it's a lot more than used to be the case.

Good news if you're a mogger though, the BP ironically only serves to further boosts Chad's status because now people are recognizing his superiority explicitly instead of implicitly.

 

[ybuyhgui]

Yeah then what you need to do is understand the sexual process and control every variable up until sex

When it comes to messaging this means:

-Beginning with the end in mind (sex)
-Constantly escalating towards sex
-Rewarding compliance
-Punishing non compliance
-Framing yourself as the buyer
-Building her investment

Beginning with the end in mind means knowing the goal is sex and treating this as the purpose of the interaction

This helps do the next thing which is constantly escalate, the typical ABC (Always Be Closing) mindset. Every message should have a purpose and every purpose is satisfying one of the other points on the list and the ultimate goal of sex

For example you want to reward compliance with your sexual framing by responding or pumping her dopamine when she goes along with a sexual joke, innuendo or request

You want to punish non compliance when she ignores or shuts down sexual framing/escalation

You should avoid overt punishments of non compliance because that looks butthurt which is low value = anti hypergamy (you want to be high value in her eyes.) the best ways to punish non compliance are through teasing, takeaways and low investment

The goal is to flip the investment in your favor, you want her chasing, the way you get her chasing is by getting her to invest and ideally you are getting her to invest along sexual lines

This requires patience and diligence upfront, similar to catching a fish, you want to get her to bite and then once she bites you want to gradually reel her in until you feel it's safe to "go for the kill" so to speak and close

The most important part of messaging is flipping investment in your favor, you want her doing most of the messaging and communicating. It is only from there that you can punish/reward compliance, comfortably escalate and build for the close

The best way to flip investment is with humor, wittiness and teasing

Flipped investment is when she is doing the bulk of the messaging. This means her messages are longer than yours and she is sending more of them.

Quick tips to solidifying investment are to try and reduce the size of your messages to as small as possible.

Your messages should be incredibly easy to reply to. Women hate to think and they hate to have to work, you want the reply to your messages to be practically guaranteed, so much so you can basically predict her response

Knowing this you should also be steering her responses in advantageous ways to your ultimate goal of sex. This means try to steer her responses in ways that increase compliance and reduce non compliance or disagreement.

This part requires a lot of working memory and context manipulation and is the hardest part of the whole thing

I would give examples but my brain has been too fried by my health issues to do so. I've basically stopped trying to slay for the time being because I just can't manage the brainpower to do it effectively so you aren't wrong about the iqpill

I love the niggas who write in detail like this

Some cracks ARE starting to show though

Although, I’d appreciate if you could elaborate here, everything points towards hypergamy enhancing (more online dating (more access to chads), more OF and overall porn/social media (no need for oofy-doofy ‘providers’) and with the influx of passport bros and geomaxxing, many are struggling even in foreign shitholes (JFL))

If you have an interesting take on why there are cracks in the seemingly ever-increasing hypergamy rates, I’d love to hear it

 

[lucifer88]

ok

 

[hypernormie]

I love the niggas who write in detail like this

Although, I’d appreciate if you could elaborate here, everything points towards hypergamy enhancing (more online dating (more access to chads), more OF and overall porn/social media (no need for oofy-doofy ‘providers’) and with the influx of passport bros and geomaxxing, many are struggling even in foreign shitholes (JFL))

If you have an interesting take on why there are cracks in the seemingly ever-increasing hypergamy rates, I’d love to hear it

My view is not so much that the system will crumble because I agree that the dysfunctional situation is quite robust and there are many top down efforts to brush the problems under the rug and keep the show going

The cracks are systemic in nature. These women will simply not reproduce, most will age out of their prime without children, very many are on all sorts of antidepressants and other medications prescribed to them by people who have zero interest in their long term health of functioning

This won't improve the situation for the average male, no, these women are genuinely too far gone, but the unsustainability of a system built on female privilege and male disposability getting exposed will throw a wrench in the greater system that allows these women to be delusional

By cracks I'm referring to cracks in the overall social structure that enables hypergamy not so much the hypergamy itself but there is a lot of incentive from elites to keep the structure alive and they have the power to keep a zombie system alive for a long time

If any significant changes are going to happen, I'm predicting they will begin to show beginning in the next 30 years when birthrate collapse and massive economic displacement starts to really have an effect

 

[russiancelreturns]

Two ways to deal with this

1.Qualify harder

2.Develop a process of over coming this barrier

For 1. Qualify harder

Do what I already said which is be more polarizing pre meet up, this can even begin with your profile itself. Your pictures should be more exciting/bad boy vibe rather than approachable nice guy vibe. Dominant colors should be darker, reds, blacks, etc. take them closer to nighttime or in nighttime environments. Use AI if you need to get better photos quick.

Your bio should be polarizing and sexual

My old bio that I had a lot of luck with was "looking for a girl with a cute butt and a cool personality" I think I got this from some PUA somewhere but it worked quite well because women would respond by qualifying themselves on a sexual point saying something like "I have a great butt but you we'll have to see about the personality" or the opposite "I have a great personality but we'll have to see about he butt" which immediately sets the vibe as a sexual interaction

There a million ways to do this with your bio (but as we know bio is less important than photos)

Your messages should be with the goal of getting her to come to your place and should be explicitly about sex or imply heavily that sex will be happening

The second way of 2. developing a process is to disregard the relationship frame she is setting up and set up a sexual interaction despite her stated intentions

This means if she is framing your interaction as a potential LTR, you want to disregard this frame and treat it as a ONS. This means no dates whatsoever, sexualizing the convo and pulling straight to your house where sex is most likely to happen

No woman is coming to your house who isn't seriously considering sleeping with you, even if she isn't consciously aware that's what she is setting herself up to do. By nature of agreeing to come to a place so intimate she is tacitly agreeing to the possibility of a sexual encounter and this increases your odds of it happening

Then it's all about proper escalation and calibration in that location

Simply going out on dates is not going to be very effective because it does nothing about the disadvantageous frame she is setting up for your interaction

The potential LTR frame is the least likely to lead to sex because for one, it puts her in the seat as the buyer rather than the seller, and this forces you to qualify yourself to her which puts you in a lower value/lower dominance position and that is anti what hypergamy seeks in a mate

Next it isn't very sexual, LTR's as shown in popular media take time to lead to sex and time is the enemy here because it increases the odds something goes wrong and she disappears or finds a better option. You want to reduce the time to sex (and this ironically is the best way to get into an LTR but that's another convo)

Lastly it sets up a "dating frame" which means interacting with her outside of the sex location, which obviously reduces your odds of sex because you just aren't in an advantageous location to do it

If women are meeting up with you, you're clealry doing something right. The trick now is to steer these interactions towards the desired outcome.

Thanks for your effort

In my case its always like I made it clear im not betabuxx material (most of them are perceived higher status than me in soyciety cuz i tell them im a truck driver jfl) but still they dont wanna come over my place and ghost without explanation after the first date

 

[ybuyhgui]

there is a lot of incentive from elites to keep the structure alive and they have the power to keep a zombie system alive for a long time

I think it’s important to acknowledge that the birth rate problem is specifically a western problem; and even more specifically, a white people problem. In the third world there are plenty pumping out children non-stop, and the elites obviously don’t give a shit whether they have a Mexican slave or a white one, if anything, they’d prefer the Mexican since he’d likely work for less.

They will simply import from the endless supply of foreign immigrants, something that I can’t really see reducing hypergamy muchor at all, only switching the races around, and we know that a western born woman will be hypergamous whether white, brown or purple. The only thing that will downgrade ironically are her active options (less white men - who they greatly prefer statistically) perhaps serving to greater hypergamy even further.

Ultimately, I wouldn’t say that hypergamy is a priority of the elites whatsoever, the unequal balance of wealth (and therefore birth rates) will remain the same

 

[hypernormie]

Thanks for your effort

In my case its always like I made it clear im not betabuxx material (most of them are perceived higher status than me in soyciety cuz i tell them im a truck driver jfl) but still they dont wanna come over my place and ghost without explanation after the first date

I don't have enough info to really diagnose what's happening but like I said getting so many dates but zero slays indicates either extreme beta bux framing or bad logistical execution on your part

It's either they aren't really treating you as a serious sexual option

Or

They are considering you as a sexual option but you blow it/failed to execute at a later point

The first thing would be to get clarity on which situation it is because imo if it is the latter than you could be slaying

If a woman considers you a sexual option at all, then it's your game to lose atp. Some guys may have an easier game from that point but really that's the biggest hurdle and what's left is proper execution.

 

[hypernormie]

I think it’s important to acknowledge that the birth rate problem is specifically a western problem; and even more specifically, a white people problem. In the third world there are plenty pumping out children non-stop, and the elites obviously don’t give a shit whether they have a Mexican slave or a white one, if anything, they’d prefer the Mexican since he’d likely work for less.

They will simply import from the endless supply of foreign immigrants, something that I can’t really see reducing hypergamy muchor at all, only switching the races around, and we know that a western born woman will be hypergamous whether white, brown or purple. The only thing that will downgrade ironically are her active options (less white men - who they greatly prefer statistically) perhaps serving to greater hypergamy even further.

Ultimately, I wouldn’t say that hypergamy is a priority of the elites whatsoever, the unequal balance of wealth (and therefore birth rates) will remain the same

Well that's what I'm saying. These women cannot sustain the levels of hypergamy they are engaging in. Foreign populations are not hypergamous like western women and I assume that's what we are talking about because like you said, this isn't a problem in other countries.

The hyper hypergamous western woman is in for a rude awakening in the next 50 years as she is gradually displaced from her position of status. Either she makes it into the elite class or she is thrown into the horde, and I think most will be subsumed into the horde. The promise of the western gynocracy was that Women™ will be ascendant but it's looking like that won't be the case. Most will be disposed of the second they stop being economically useful and considering the types of jobs these women do (overpaid fake administrative office work that these companies are developing AI specifically to replace) that's going to be pretty soon.

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

Why dont you ask them to come to your place first instead of going on dates? I see dates as a waste of time and money really.

 

[ybuyhgui]

Well that's what I'm saying. These women cannot sustain the levels of hypergamy they are engaging in. Foreign populations are not hypergamous like western women and I assume that's what we are talking about because like you said, this isn't a problem in other countries

But wouldn’t you say that worldwide ‘westernization’ is inevitable? Once countries housing the women in poorer countries (less hypergamous due to less access to the things western women have access to) develop and innovate don’t you think it’ll just be a repeat of what happens in the west?

Why can’t the women sustain the hypergamy they’re developing if the government has seemingly endless access to immigrants

The hyper hypergamous western woman is in for a rude awakening in the next 50 years as she is gradually displaced from her position of status.

But how exactly? Do you think that the western man will look for options outside of the west and displace women that way? In my opinion giving women the option to be hypergamous (development of a country) will always result in hypergamy, they don’t have the same sexual desire as men.

Although, that links back to your previous point where the elites can’t let worldwide birth rates die out, but this obviously will be a problem for the far future.

I just can’t see how women’s position of power could possibly shift at all dramatically in the next 50 years, looking specifically in the west, birth rates aren’t a problem (immigration), men will always have more desire anyway (innate, inescapable) and women have shown no sign of backing down at all. Only time I could see it slowing is if the entire world were to develop leading the elites to forcibly make a move, but until then I just can’t follow.

 

[jaaba]

Yeah I was thinking about this recently when walking past a high school. I was thinking "How many of these foids see blackpill edits of godly Chads mogging normies grace their TL on the daily?"

Its probably not a lot but it's a lot more than used to be the case.

Good news if you're a mogger though, the BP ironically only serves to further boosts Chad's status because now people are recognizing his superiority explicitly instead of implicitly.

I have overheard multiple foids talk about “bp”, I’d estimate atleast 10% of female TikTok users have seen a few edits

Yeah it probably is good news for moggers, HOWEVER it may mean some foids start assuming they are looksmaxers because they are ignorant and don’t actually know anything about looksmaxing (obviously foids thinking you looksmax is an aura loss especially if you actually do).

Once you get a looksmax accusation it’s a loose loose loose, you either seem like you’re out of the loop, you seem like a larper or you actually do concede and admit to it

 

[grav]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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Whats gl mean

 

[russiancelreturns]

Two ways to deal with this

1.Qualify harder

2.Develop a process of over coming this barrier

For 1. Qualify harder

Do what I already said which is be more polarizing pre meet up, this can even begin with your profile itself. Your pictures should be more exciting/bad boy vibe rather than approachable nice guy vibe. Dominant colors should be darker, reds, blacks, etc. take them closer to nighttime or in nighttime environments. Use AI if you need to get better photos quick.

Your bio should be polarizing and sexual

My old bio that I had a lot of luck with was "looking for a girl with a cute butt and a cool personality" I think I got this from some PUA somewhere but it worked quite well because women would respond by qualifying themselves on a sexual point saying something like "I have a great butt but you we'll have to see about the personality" or the opposite "I have a great personality but we'll have to see about he butt" which immediately sets the vibe as a sexual interaction

There a million ways to do this with your bio (but as we know bio is less important than photos)

Your messages should be with the goal of getting her to come to your place and should be explicitly about sex or imply heavily that sex will be happening

The second way of 2. developing a process is to disregard the relationship frame she is setting up and set up a sexual interaction despite her stated intentions

This means if she is framing your interaction as a potential LTR, you want to disregard this frame and treat it as a ONS. This means no dates whatsoever, sexualizing the convo and pulling straight to your house where sex is most likely to happen

No woman is coming to your house who isn't seriously considering sleeping with you, even if she isn't consciously aware that's what she is setting herself up to do. By nature of agreeing to come to a place so intimate she is tacitly agreeing to the possibility of a sexual encounter and this increases your odds of it happening

Then it's all about proper escalation and calibration in that location

Simply going out on dates is not going to be very effective because it does nothing about the disadvantageous frame she is setting up for your interaction

The potential LTR frame is the least likely to lead to sex because for one, it puts her in the seat as the buyer rather than the seller, and this forces you to qualify yourself to her which puts you in a lower value/lower dominance position and that is anti what hypergamy seeks in a mate

Next it isn't very sexual, LTR's as shown in popular media take time to lead to sex and time is the enemy here because it increases the odds something goes wrong and she disappears or finds a better option. You want to reduce the time to sex (and this ironically is the best way to get into an LTR but that's another convo)

Lastly it sets up a "dating frame" which means interacting with her outside of the sex location, which obviously reduces your odds of sex because you just aren't in an advantageous location to do it

If women are meeting up with you, you're clealry doing something right. The trick now is to steer these interactions towards the desired outcome.

this is ridiculous what you suggest. I need them gassing up for 2h to even join my car let alone coming over my place without knowing me at all

 

[FiendFiend]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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arent u the 5'6 guy who wears 4 inch elevator shoes

 

[FiendFiend]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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"genetic lottery"

 

[russiancelreturns]

arent u the 5'6 guy who wears 4 inch elevator shoes

im 5'9 barefoot and fraud 5'11

 

[Gamerspyy786]

Being hot is now the bare minimum

This

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