[BRAG THREAD] Looks isnt any value in men nowadays. Being GL is the bare minimum

[FiendFiend]

im 5'9 barefoot and fraud 5'11

the height changes everytime, im guessing ur 5'7 , 5'8

 

[russiancelreturns]

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"genetic lottery"

need this looks

 

[FiendFiend]

View attachment 4340386 need this looks

nigga u fucking ogremaxxed then dyed your hair black for some reason to look "med" jfl u look like some russian boy idk what u expected.

 

[russiancelreturns]

nigga u fucking ogremaxxed then dyed your hair black for some reason to look "med" jfl u look like some russian boy idk what u expected.

it was me in may 2024

 

[Whatever]

it was me in may 2024

I think your coloring and high trust features might be getting you this kind of treatment, that women act civilized rather than impulsive with you, and especially with your height you might be giving kind of a little brother energy. I’m 6’2” and darker featured and have basically the opposite problem.

 

[hypernormie]

this is ridiculous what you suggest. I need them gassing up for 2h to even join my car let alone coming over my place without knowing me at all

Yeah bud welcome to 2025

 

[hypernormie]

it was me in may 2024

Lean out your face, dye your eyebrows darker, whiten your teeth with whitening strips, trim your nose hairs and clear up your skin. You're not bad looking.

 

[hypernormie]

it was me in may 2024

Mirin the prominent fangs tho that's a lowkey mogger trait

 

[hypernormie]

I have overheard multiple foids talk about “bp”, I’d estimate atleast 10% of female TikTok users have seen a few edits

Yeah it probably is good news for moggers, HOWEVER it may mean some foids start assuming they are looksmaxers because they are ignorant and don’t actually know anything about looksmaxing (obviously foids thinking you looksmax is an aura loss especially if you actually do).

Once you get a looksmax accusation it’s a loose loose loose, you either seem like you’re out of the loop, you seem like a larper or you actually do concede and admit to it

You can just deny it tho tbh

It's not like they can prove you're explicitly looksmaxxing rather just taking care of your appearance

If you get accused of looksmaxxing just play dumb or downplay it. Say "oh yeah I've heard about that, nah I'm not a looksmaxxer or whatever but yeah I've seen that stuff on TikTok."

 

[lurking truecel]

Funny how this is edited, no way this ugly looking fag get comments

 

[russiancelreturns]

I think your coloring and high trust features might be getting you this kind of treatment, that women act civilized rather than impulsive with you, and especially with your height you might be giving kind of a little brother energy. I’m 6’2” and darker featured and have basically the opposite problem.

Lean out your face, dye your eyebrows darker, whiten your teeth with whitening strips, trim your nose hairs and clear up your skin. You're not bad looking.

im dark triad badboy rn. Injecting T also

this is my tinder profile

 

[hypernormie]

But wouldn’t you say that worldwide ‘westernization’ is inevitable?

Kind of, worldwide development is inevitable which leads to a kind of westernization because women become more hypergamous as a result of gaining resources

Once countries housing the women in poorer countries (less hypergamous due to less access to the things western women have access to) develop and innovate don’t you think it’ll just be a repeat of what happens in the west?

This is where I'm not too sure, western hypergamy has gotten so bad not just because of women having resources but also the culture of gynocentrism and feminism which has been promoted. I do agree that some degree of increased hypergamy is inevitable but whether it becomes death tier like in the west is less guaranteed imo.

Why can’t the women sustain the hypergamy they’re developing if the government has seemingly endless access to immigrants

Like I said the hypergamy in the west is dependent not just on access to resources but the wider gynocentric culture. This gynocentric culture depends on women having resources and men buying into the gynocentric worldview. With both the rise in automation, many women will lose out on resources or become uncompetitive in relation to immigrants and machines. Men are also waking up and refusing to buy into the gynocracy like they used to.

I don't think any of this will have immediate impacts but the main pillars that the gynocracy depends on are under attack, that being increased female access to resources and gynocentric men.

The most gynocentric hypergamous women in the west are the liberal city dwellers. This is where feminism has reached its peak and these are the people who's lives are least sustainable in a crumbling system. These are people who's jobs are least necessary and least skilled. Many have straight up fake jobs that actually don't produce any value or are negative value to the companies that employ them.

I know a female programmer who outright admitted to me that she usually doesn't have any work and just pretends to do work half the time because she needs to look busy. I'm not saying men don't also do this, but men have more reasons to not do this than women do, and eventually I think that scale will even itself out. If the company this woman works for experiences any hardship, she will be one of the first to go.

But how exactly? Do you think that the western man will look for options outside of the west and displace women that way? In my opinion giving women the option to be hypergamous (development of a country) will always result in hypergamy, they don’t have the same sexual desire as men.

I think some men will, but really the most important thing is what type of men will. The highest quality men will leave or seek options elsewhere or just refuse to commit.

Hypergamy is natural, it existed before advanced gynocentrism like we see today. You can't get rid of hypergamy, the question is how intense the hypergamy will be.

The intensity of the hypergamy is dependent on women's options and men's desperation. I think both these things are liable to change in the somewhat near future.

I don't think our lives will really be impacted by this significantly. Western women aren't going to suddenly start being more realistic with their options, most will end up childless and alone, but the next generation will be impacted imo. The generation of children being born today.

Although, that links back to your previous point where the elites can’t let worldwide birth rates die out, but this obviously will be a problem for the far future.

I just can’t see how women’s position of power could possibly shift at all dramatically in the next 50 years, looking specifically in the west, birth rates aren’t a problem (immigration), men will always have more desire anyway (innate, inescapable) and women have shown no sign of backing down at all. Only time I could see it slowing is if the entire world were to develop leading the elites to forcibly make a move, but until then I just can’t follow.

Immigration isn't going to help gynocentrism though. The immigrants going to Western countries are not gynocentric or egalitarian for the most part. They don't come from cultures that create environments where rampant unchecked hypergamy can thrive and they don't believe it should.

Now whether this cultural difference can buffer the natural rise in hypergamy caused by greater resources is arguable but like I said I don't believe access to resources is going to be as easy in the future. I believe the western world has been living in a bubble and a lot of the abundance is fake.

Imo it's more likely for the elites to break off into their own functional societies separate from the general population, extracting value from the general population from without. Top down elite control of society does not necessarily involve their direct participation and so they aren't under any real incentive to keep the quality of life super high. We already see it in places like NYC where even in the financial capital of the world, the standard of living for the average person continues to drop. I don't think those at the top care much to ensure women have continued access to privileges, I think women were a useful in the modern economy because they were as close as possible to worker drones as they could get, non combative, compliant, unthinking automatons. Women were an expedient solution to the modern low exertion, stable economy where the goal was continued steady extraction of value. However with the creation of AI, the elites now are trying for an even better solution than woman for this role.

The rest of women who aren't part of the upper class but who were nonetheless ultra hypergamous and entitled are just going to have a natural and forceful snap back to reality when the general economy and quality of life continues to dip. Feminism never really applied to these women but they drank the Kool-Aid too because the Kool-Aid was given to everyone indiscriminately. It's not going to take much to get your average middle income women to lower her standards, look what happened during Covid. One big economy shock and suddenly tons of women were getting married and living with men out of expediency. Covid marriages were a big thing. These women aren't as independent as they seem.

 

[hypernormie]

im dark triad badboy rn. Injecting T also

this is my tinder profile

You look like a different person in this post than the last, the last one made you look scandanavian

 

[ybuyhgui]

Kind of, worldwide development is inevitable which leads to a kind of westernization because women become more hypergamous as a result of gaining resources


This is where I'm not too sure, western hypergamy has gotten so bad not just because of women having resources but also the culture of gynocentrism and feminism which has been promoted. I do agree that some degree of increased hypergamy is inevitable but whether it becomes death tier like in the west is less guaranteed imo.


Like I said the hypergamy in the west is dependent not just on access to resources but the wider gynocentric culture. This gynocentric culture depends on women having resources and men buying into the gynocentric worldview. With both the rise in automation, many women will lose out on resources or become uncompetitive in relation to immigrants and machines. Men are also waking up and refusing to buy into the gynocracy like they used to.

I don't think any of this will have immediate impacts but the main pillars that the gynocracy depends on are under attack, that being increased female access to resources and gynocentric men.

The most gynocentric hypergamous women in the west are the liberal city dwellers. This is where feminism has reached its peak and these are the people who's lives are least sustainable in a crumbling system. These are people who's jobs are least necessary and least skilled. Many have straight up fake jobs that actually don't produce any value or are negative value to the companies that employ them.

I know a female programmer who outright admitted to me that she usually doesn't have any work and just pretends to do work half the time because she needs to look busy. I'm not saying men don't also do this, but men have more reasons to not do this than women do, and eventually I think that scale will even itself out. If the company this woman works for experiences any hardship, she will be one of the first to go.


I think some men will, but really the most important thing is what type of men will. The highest quality men will leave or seek options elsewhere or just refuse to commit.

Hypergamy is natural, it existed before advanced gynocentrism like we see today. You can't get rid of hypergamy, the question is how intense the hypergamy will be.

The intensity of the hypergamy is dependent on women's options and men's desperation. I think both these things are liable to change in the somewhat near future.

I don't think our lives will really be impacted by this significantly. Western women aren't going to suddenly start being more realistic with their options, most will end up childless and alone, but the next generation will be impacted imo. The generation of children being born today.


Immigration isn't going to help gynocentrism though. The immigrants going to Western countries are not gynocentric or egalitarian for the most part. They don't come from cultures that create environments where rampant unchecked hypergamy can thrive and they don't believe it should.

Now whether this cultural difference can buffer the natural rise in hypergamy caused by greater resources is arguable but like I said I don't believe access to resources is going to be as easy in the future. I believe the western world has been living in a bubble and a lot of the abundance is fake.

Imo it's more likely for the elites to break off into their own functional societies separate from the general population, extracting value from the general population from without. Top down elite control of society does not necessarily involve their direct participation and so they aren't under any real incentive to keep the quality of life super high. We already see it in places like NYC where even in the financial capital of the world, the standard of living for the average person continues to drop. I don't think those at the top care much to ensure women have continued access to privileges, I think women were a useful in the modern economy because they were as close as possible to worker drones as they could get, non combative, compliant, unthinking automatons. Women were an expedient solution to the modern low exertion, stable economy where the goal was continued steady extraction of value. However with the creation of AI, the elites now are trying for an even better solution than woman for this role.

The rest of women who aren't part of the upper class but who were nonetheless ultra hypergamous and entitled are just going to have a natural and forceful snap back to reality when the general economy and quality of life continues to dip. Feminism never really applied to these women but they drank the Kool-Aid too because the Kool-Aid was given to everyone indiscriminately. It's not going to take much to get your average middle income women to lower her standards, look what happened during Covid. One big economy shock and suddenly tons of women were getting married and living with men out of expediency. Covid marriages were a big thing. These women aren't as independent as they seem.

Good read especially the last bit, I appreciate the insight and effort put in for a random autist on a forum jfl

 

[hypernormie]

Good read especially the last bit, I appreciate the insight and effort put in for a random autist on a forum jfl

Lol, fs I enjoy the conversation

 

[darkness97]

looks truly aren't everything. it can give you a significant boost and get your foot in the door. but she has to at least like being around you if she want's to be in a relationship with you. which women generally want unless you find them in a very specific stage where they are hoeing out.

judging by her questions it seems like she wants to get to know you romantically.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

I get comments like that on a daily basis. Sometimes even 4-5 foids dm me first and it means nothing cuz they all flake in the end. This one from the pic below didn't even replied to my question about meeting

im still virgin at 24

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i’ve experienced the same thing and many others too. being good looking barely does anything nowadays. it’s the minimum criteria. there’s tons of other good looking guys. idk what to say… 2026 is gonna be rough

 

[russiancelreturns]

i’ve experienced the same thing and many others too. being good looking barely does anything nowadays. it’s the minimum criteria. there’s tons of other good looking guys. idk what to say… 2026 is gonna be rough

cuz dark triad is law