Broke 19 year old MMA fighter trying to get back on my feet

[m0ss26]

Everybody’s brand is still respectful, traditional, formal bullshit and I’m an incel/schizo.

I relate to you being in the mma space

 

[vinniesauce]

I relate to you being in the mma space

Based pfp, you get it. I’d be retarded to turn back and live a bluepill lifestyle at this point.

 

[m0ss26]

Based pfp, you get it. I’d be retarded to turn back and live a bluepill lifestyle at this point.

all in or death lets go brother

 

[SrChadThunderC]

I hear you. Strip away the edge and the politics for a second and there’s a clean signal here:

• You already proved market demand (clients paid you, repeatedly).
• You have scarce skill (legit competitive grappling + MMA).
• You don’t function well under authority or normie social filters.
• Your income collapsed because distribution + structure broke, not because you “fell off.”

That’s not a character flaw. It’s a systems problem.


I’m going to be straight with you, but I’m not going to gas the parts of this that will actually sabotage you.

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First: a hard boundary (important)​

I can’t co-sign racism, misogyny, or slur use. Not because of morality lectures, but because it will continue to cost you money. You don’t need to “change your beliefs” to win—just compartmentalize.


Think of it like weight cutting:

• You don’t stop eating forever
• You just don’t eat stupid when it matters

Right now, your problem isn’t that you’re “too real.”
It’s that you’re leaking unfiltered thoughts into revenue channels.


Fix that, and everything else becomes easier.

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Reality check: you are NOT unemployable​

You’re unemployable in hierarchical, HR-heavy environments. That’s different.


You’re very employable in:

• Pay-for-results
• Cash businesses
• Physical presence roles
• Skill-based micro-businesses
• Client → coach relationships (no middle manager)

So let’s talk money, not vibes.

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Short-term money (0–60 days) — while still training 2x/day​

1. Private Jiu-Jitsu lessons (this is non-negotiable)​

You already know this works.


How to structure it better than last time:

• Raise price immediately
  If you were charging $60/hr → go $90–120/hr
• Minimum packages only
  Example: 8 sessions upfront, no single sessions
• Train businessmen early mornings or midday (they pay, they’re flaky but rich)

Where to find them without social media:

• Old clients (text them directly)
• Local realtors, car guys, contractors
• Country clubs / rec centers
• Fathers of kids you coach

This alone can cover rent/food if you’re disciplined.

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2. Recreation center Jiu-Jitsu = do it ASAP​

This is actually your best medium-term play.


Structure it like this:

• Adult fundamentals (2–3x/week)
• Kids class (parents = recurring money)
• One “competition class” per week (status signaling)

Pricing example (simple):

• Kids: $120–150/month
• Adults: $150–200/month
• No drop-ins unless premium priced

You don’t need 100 students.
You need 25–40 consistent ones.

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3. Bouncing / security (temporary, tactical)​

This is actually not a bad idea if you treat it like a bridge, not a career.


Pros:

• Cash
• Night shifts (doesn’t interfere with daytime training)
• No HR culture
• Physical presence respected

Rules:

• Don’t get sucked into nightlife drama
• Don’t post about it
• Don’t ego battle drunk idiots

Think of it as: conditioning + cash, nothing else.

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Online money WITHOUT getting banned​

Here’s the key insight:
You don’t need a public personality. You need a product.

Option A: Faceless / low-exposure content​

• Technique breakdowns
• Match analysis
• Conditioning protocols
• Competition prep

No politics. No opinions. No insults.


Platforms:

• YouTube (technical, boring = safe)
• Gumroad / Stripe
• Email list (underrated)

Example product ideas:

• “8-Week Competition Jiu-Jitsu Camp”
• “Guard Passing System for MMA”
• “Strength + Weight Cut Protocol (Natural)”

You already have the credibility.

 

[tuturabbit]

u suck i would, knock u out, Nigga.

 

[Earth776]

idk but i would say be cautious about fighting i dont think that the pay is great and the risk is veyr high also what bjj belt are u

 

[poreskin]

To start off, I’m not larping with how good I am. I’ve won significant titles in Jiu-Jitsu and I’m currently undefeated as an amateur in MMA. The problem is making money. My personality isn’t very marketable for normie appeal. I am not social and I’m very straight forward/brash when I do speak. I can’t control it, the truth always reveals itself.

In high school I was in the top percentile for my age. By senior year, I was relatively attractive to most girls and well respected in my city. I was working three jobs. One being my private training business, another coaching gym class at a private school, and running a kids Jiu Jitsu program for a UFC fighter. My instagram wasn’t super popular (almost 2K) but I was able to draw a loyal following and create a lot of clients.

At the beginning of last year, everything had changed. Not to harp or ask for a pity party but the changes were drastic. I was happy with my high-school sweetheart, making up to 1K a week, had just won my last MMA fight. Then life switched up quickly. The private school I was coaching at had shut down. I got in a dispute with the UFC fighter and left the gym. Started losing clients who truthfully I can gain back easily it’s just that they travel a lot for their businesses. I made bank off of them but it wasn’t steady income. Then at last, I broke up with my girlfriend. Not gonna harp on her because she’s not worth the energy. It did affect me a lot last year though.

This was around the time I started BP. I was always a schizo mainly in JQ and Redpill. I’ve been on 4chan and telegram since middle school. I used the breakup and a jiu jitsu loss as forbidden pre and decided to lock in. I went on an animal based diet, stopped bad habits, and put on 20 pounds (140 to 160) lean. My appearance changed completely. I even grew two inches (5’11 to 6’1) from good sleep and raw milk.

Now the main problem is money. I’m pretty much unemployable. I think when it came to coaching kids I was alright with controling my language. I’d have my slip ups calling the kids retarded or fags. The main problem is I hold no respect for authority, especially when it’s minorities and women. I’ve always been a leader and I think it’s best off if I run my own business. I have ties to the local recreation center and I can start teaching Jiu Jitsu there everyday. All I have to do is pay them a small percentage of what I make. This is the next step I’d say. There really isn’t any Jiu Jitsu options on my side of town and I’m pretty well known locally.

I do need to make money in the meantime. I expect the recreation center classes to get going soon but money doesn’t come in instantly. My dad is on my ass about getting shitty 9-5s like being a school bus driver and working at the substance abuse center as a front desk. I’m not wasting my time and taking away from training. I still am an active competitor and I need to train at least 2 times a day to stay ahead. Do I start social media again? My account was banned last time for being offensive. It’s a common theme, I suck at keeping my inner thoughts. What are other career paths with my skill set? I’ve been entertaining the idea of bouncing. I’m lost and in a pit but I’m not one to quit.

I know this is a retarded vent I just want some more insight. I don’t know much about business even though I’ve been successful. It’s mainly worked of my connections and my notable achievements.

tldr: used to make good money coaching/competing, but multiple income streams collapsed last year (gym split, school shutdown, client loss, breakup).

how do you find amatuear fights, like whats the process when you join a gym to find fights

I dont wanna be a pro mma fighter but i wanna have a few lil fights

 

[illoan82]

are u not currently in school studyingn something or maybe a trade school?

 

[bibiprocházka271]

To start off, I’m not larping with how good I am. I’ve won significant titles in Jiu-Jitsu and I’m currently undefeated as an amateur in MMA. The problem is making money. My personality isn’t very marketable for normie appeal. I am not social and I’m very straight forward/brash when I do speak. I can’t control it, the truth always reveals itself.

In high school I was in the top percentile for my age. By senior year, I was relatively attractive to most girls and well respected in my city. I was working three jobs. One being my private training business, another coaching gym class at a private school, and running a kids Jiu Jitsu program for a UFC fighter. My instagram wasn’t super popular (almost 2K) but I was able to draw a loyal following and create a lot of clients.

At the beginning of last year, everything had changed. Not to harp or ask for a pity party but the changes were drastic. I was happy with my high-school sweetheart, making up to 1K a week, had just won my last MMA fight. Then life switched up quickly. The private school I was coaching at had shut down. I got in a dispute with the UFC fighter and left the gym. Started losing clients who truthfully I can gain back easily it’s just that they travel a lot for their businesses. I made bank off of them but it wasn’t steady income. Then at last, I broke up with my girlfriend. Not gonna harp on her because she’s not worth the energy. It did affect me a lot last year though.

This was around the time I started BP. I was always a schizo mainly in JQ and Redpill. I’ve been on 4chan and telegram since middle school. I used the breakup and a jiu jitsu loss as forbidden pre and decided to lock in. I went on an animal based diet, stopped bad habits, and put on 20 pounds (140 to 160) lean. My appearance changed completely. I even grew two inches (5’11 to 6’1) from good sleep and raw milk.

Now the main problem is money. I’m pretty much unemployable. I think when it came to coaching kids I was alright with controling my language. I’d have my slip ups calling the kids retarded or fags. The main problem is I hold no respect for authority, especially when it’s minorities and women. I’ve always been a leader and I think it’s best off if I run my own business. I have ties to the local recreation center and I can start teaching Jiu Jitsu there everyday. All I have to do is pay them a small percentage of what I make. This is the next step I’d say. There really isn’t any Jiu Jitsu options on my side of town and I’m pretty well known locally.

I do need to make money in the meantime. I expect the recreation center classes to get going soon but money doesn’t come in instantly. My dad is on my ass about getting shitty 9-5s like being a school bus driver and working at the substance abuse center as a front desk. I’m not wasting my time and taking away from training. I still am an active competitor and I need to train at least 2 times a day to stay ahead. Do I start social media again? My account was banned last time for being offensive. It’s a common theme, I suck at keeping my inner thoughts. What are other career paths with my skill set? I’ve been entertaining the idea of bouncing. I’m lost and in a pit but I’m not one to quit.

I know this is a retarded vent I just want some more insight. I don’t know much about business even though I’ve been successful. It’s mainly worked of my connections and my notable achievements.

tldr: used to make good money coaching/competing, but multiple income streams collapsed last year (gym split, school shutdown, client loss, breakup).

which ufc fighter my nigga

crazy chud life too are you neurodivergent or something how cant you control calling kids fags or retards

also you are probably just boring and racist lil niglet
sean strickland is out here fighting like a fag and being as honest and racist as he can and hes makes more per fight than pantojas and dj have made their whole career

 

[LTNUser]

which ufc fighter my nigga

crazy chud life too are you neurodivergent or something how cant you control calling kids fags or retards

also you are probably just boring and racist lil niglet
sean strickland is out here fighting like a fag and being as honest and racist as he can and hes makes more per fight than pantojas and dj have made their whole career

Sean is an ass fighter but he is entertaining

 

[bibiprocházka271]

jew take, seans beat a good chunk of the top 10 middleweights, dethroned izzy, beat ddp the first time and only lost to usman and alex pereira, hes got a finish rate of 2% and couldnt even deport hernandez properly

 

[AscendBender]

To start off, I’m not larping with how good I am. I’ve won significant titles in Jiu-Jitsu and I’m currently undefeated as an amateur in MMA. The problem is making money. My personality isn’t very marketable for normie appeal. I am not social and I’m very straight forward/brash when I do speak. I can’t control it, the truth always reveals itself.

In high school I was in the top percentile for my age. By senior year, I was relatively attractive to most girls and well respected in my city. I was working three jobs. One being my private training business, another coaching gym class at a private school, and running a kids Jiu Jitsu program for a UFC fighter. My instagram wasn’t super popular (almost 2K) but I was able to draw a loyal following and create a lot of clients.

At the beginning of last year, everything had changed. Not to harp or ask for a pity party but the changes were drastic. I was happy with my high-school sweetheart, making up to 1K a week, had just won my last MMA fight. Then life switched up quickly. The private school I was coaching at had shut down. I got in a dispute with the UFC fighter and left the gym. Started losing clients who truthfully I can gain back easily it’s just that they travel a lot for their businesses. I made bank off of them but it wasn’t steady income. Then at last, I broke up with my girlfriend. Not gonna harp on her because she’s not worth the energy. It did affect me a lot last year though.

This was around the time I started BP. I was always a schizo mainly in JQ and Redpill. I’ve been on 4chan and telegram since middle school. I used the breakup and a jiu jitsu loss as forbidden pre and decided to lock in. I went on an animal based diet, stopped bad habits, and put on 20 pounds (140 to 160) lean. My appearance changed completely. I even grew two inches (5’11 to 6’1) from good sleep and raw milk.

Now the main problem is money. I’m pretty much unemployable. I think when it came to coaching kids I was alright with controling my language. I’d have my slip ups calling the kids retarded or fags. The main problem is I hold no respect for authority, especially when it’s minorities and women. I’ve always been a leader and I think it’s best off if I run my own business. I have ties to the local recreation center and I can start teaching Jiu Jitsu there everyday. All I have to do is pay them a small percentage of what I make. This is the next step I’d say. There really isn’t any Jiu Jitsu options on my side of town and I’m pretty well known locally.

I do need to make money in the meantime. I expect the recreation center classes to get going soon but money doesn’t come in instantly. My dad is on my ass about getting shitty 9-5s like being a school bus driver and working at the substance abuse center as a front desk. I’m not wasting my time and taking away from training. I still am an active competitor and I need to train at least 2 times a day to stay ahead. Do I start social media again? My account was banned last time for being offensive. It’s a common theme, I suck at keeping my inner thoughts. What are other career paths with my skill set? I’ve been entertaining the idea of bouncing. I’m lost and in a pit but I’m not one to quit.

I know this is a retarded vent I just want some more insight. I don’t know much about business even though I’ve been successful. It’s mainly worked of my connections and my notable achievements.

tldr: used to make good money coaching/competing, but multiple income streams collapsed last year (gym split, school shutdown, client loss, breakup).

Bro are we the same person? Never seen another BP’d mma fighter who also had a breakup that pushed them to ascend until now. Also grew taller from raw milk jfl

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

I relate to you being in the mma space

A little birdie told me blasting halo is gonna get you a ufc contract

 

[Luquier]

Go pro and play into your incel autist persona

You’ll go viral

 

[m0ss26]

A little birdie told me blasting halo is gonna get you a ufc contract

Waiting for my next comp to break it out

 

[vinniesauce]

Update: started my own gym and got my shit together