Brutal agepill

[Deleted member 6723]

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[Zyros]

message from pinkchad @Original @Syobevoli

So fucking based, its what I always said.

Its all about male ageism, and nothing about morality. Younger males are given a pass for everything older are demonized for. If no male should get to do "x activity" with person under certain age, and the reason is supposed to be maturity and lack of preparation for said activity, THEN NO FUCKING MALE AT ALL SHOULD HAVE A "YOUNG AGE PASS" FUCKING HYPOCRITES. Its just about placing an age discrimination barrier and thats it.

Thankfully I dont live in clown america and nobody gives a shit about guys with younger girls, guys with older girls or any combination

 

[Deleted member 10536]

She‘s 18 and he’s 30 and she’s so disgusted and scared of him

All the comments are saying he’s creepy and shouldn’t be hitting on someone so young

”Muh older men have more money and are more masculine and have more experience and maturity which is attractive “

Society hates older men and majority of even legal teens 18-19 are scared of them

I'm 30...

 

[Deleted member 11053]

by having sex you are essentially agreeing that you could possibly impregnate or become pregnant. just like by signing a contract you are agreeing, most likely, that there are possible negative ramifications for your actions. you need to be able to know if you’re possibly going to get fucked over and have major parts of your life ruined (or maybe your entire life ruined). why not do what you can to protect young children/teens?

you were arguing that because something happens regardless of the law, it should be legal. i showed you how you were wrong with those examples.

i can easily argue that murder is simple and basic because humans have been doing it for like 300,000 years. as human beings killing is a natural desire, so let us kill people. your argument seems to be that sex is a super simple basic thing, which is very different from your previous arguments, but sex could possibly create an entire new person. it could mean a 14 year old has to become a mom. it could mean an adult coerces someone who is mentally deficient into having kids with them or some crazy shit.

i could use the “basic need” argument against you in many different ways.

never debated him or ran into him ngl but when he comes back (if he does) i’ll get to him like i’ve gotten to many others.

once again, you are arguing for the non-existence of laws. laws exist to try to curb behavior. even though we can’t stop something putting a law in place means we can protect people from all kinds of things better than having no law at all. to no offense, this is the worst possible argument you could use and i think you see why.

I feel like people were more mature before at a younger age

 

[Deleted member 8576]

but I did not respond to your debate nor did not I read any of his or your contribution. I just pointed out the irony, which you took personally. dont play a other character, when you played different one until now.

Ok let me go a little slower because you still aren’t understanding what i’m saying. I’ll even put it in bigger, bolder font for you.

You claimed, originally, that it was ironic that i told albeacho not to respond with a meme and defend his position.

do you understand so far?

As the debate continued, albeacho ended up being the one to simply respond with a meme, while i was taking the debate seriously.

can you still understand? reread parts of the post if you have gotten lost or confused!

Your claim that you were using my medicine against me was unfounded due to these above reasons.

if you can understand this then feel free to respond, or have your caretaker or your mom reread it to you.

 

[Albeacho]

by having sex you are essentially agreeing that you could possibly impregnate or become pregnant. just like by signing a contract you are agreeing, most likely, that there are possible negative ramifications for your actions. you need to be able to know if you’re possibly going to get fucked over and have major parts of your life ruined (or maybe your entire life ruined). why not do what you can to protect young children/teens?

you were arguing that because something happens regardless of the law, it should be legal. i showed you how you were wrong with those examples.

i can easily argue that murder is simple and basic because humans have been doing it for like 300,000 years. as human beings killing is a natural desire, so let us kill people. your argument seems to be that sex is a super simple basic thing, which is very different from your previous arguments, but sex could possibly create an entire new person. it could mean a 14 year old has to become a mom. it could mean an adult coerces someone who is mentally deficient into having kids with them or some crazy shit.

i could use the “basic need” argument against you in many different ways.

never debated him or ran into him ngl but when he comes back (if he does) i’ll get to him like i’ve gotten to many others.

once again, you are arguing for the non-existence of laws. laws exist to try to curb behavior. even though we can’t stop something putting a law in place means we can protect people from all kinds of things better than having no law at all. to no offense, this is the worst possible argument you could use and i think you see why.

Bro my Brain is getting fried at this point. I haven't slept in 20 hours. I will admit that you have made some very good arguments against the Jb law. I will hopefully come back tomorrow and Answer all your text here. Also please do debate the pinkman after he comes back and tag me in it.

Ps: This is not cope, I am just really tired and have been arguing for a long time

 

[Deleted member 8576]

Bro my Brain is getting fried at this point. I haven't slept in 20 hours. I will admit that you have made some very good arguments against the Jb law. I will hopefully come back tomorrow and Answer all your text here. Also please do debate the pinkman after he comes back and tag me in it.

Ps: This is not cope, I am just really tired and have been arguing for a long time

ok bro i understand. i’ll debate pinkwell on the topic if i can. you can get some sleep no problem.

 

[Deleted member 3512]

If you look like the guy in ur sig, balding and with mantits, your age is irrrelevant anyways. You could be 18yo with that look and it would also be over.

I'm bald, not balding, but yes, I look like him

 

[Deleted member 8576]

message from pinkchad @Original @Syobevoli

i’ll respond to this

“Think of it like alcohol, why should teens be allowed to drink alcohol with each other, but not with adults”

they aren’t? you have to be 21 to drink. you can’t consume alcohol under that age.


“Its illegal for ANYONE 18 AND UP to drink alcohol WITH ANYONE UNDER 18, but ANYONE UNDER 18 can drink alcohol with ANYONE UNDER 18 legally. Also ANYONE UNDER 18 who drinks alcohol with SOMEONE 18 AND UPcannot be punished, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OF THE "LEGAL AGE" CAN BE PUNISHED”

21 drinking age. end of story.

“There should be a line drawn somewhere, i'd say somewhere from 13 to 16, where you are considered allowed to have sex with ANYONE. Romeo and Juliet laws are stupid as shit.”

i would have to get into more detail on why he thinks this is the case since he isn’t here to debate me or my points. what i’ve said with albeacho should be enough to understand my reasoning.

“Also, "manipulation", is cope. All social interaction is manipulation,”

therefore no laws should exist to prevent manipulation from happening? in that case why not fuck a baby if they say “yes”? really poor reasoning.

“and a teenager can actually manipulate an adult.”

since a teen is far more likely to be manipulated by an adult than vice versa it would make sense to protect minors.

“Think of the Nordic Model of prostitution, its illegal to buy the sex but not illegal to sell it. That's similar to how age of consent works. Young teens are actually allowed to pursue adults who have an urge to fuck teens, and there is no law against the teen doing this.”

idc about nordic whatever bullshit. he is essentially just restating his core position which i disagree with. there you go.

 

[fogdart]

Creepy older = ugly older guy

 

[Deleted member 11053]

@Original do you think its possible for people to reach the necessary maturity to have sex at an age like 16, cause i feel like before people reached that maturity at a younger age and they were ready to raise a child but with society and technology people changed and reach that maturity slower than before, also if they wouldn't be able to raise a child at that age why would their body push them to have sex.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

@Original do you think its possible for people to reach the necessary maturity to have sex at an age like 16, cause i feel like before people reached that maturity at an younger age and they were ready to raise a child but with society and technology people changed and reach that maturity slower than before, also if they wouldn't be able to raise a child at that age why would their body push them to have sex.

it depends on what kind of maturity you mean.

of course a 16 year old’s body is ready to have sex but there have been 5 year olds who have gotten pregnant and had children—i’m not making that up, that’s actually happened, google it if you want it’s very disturbing.

if you think that a 16 year old should be able to have sex because her body is ready for it, then you could argue that a kid should be allowed to sign a contact if they can read and write. it’s the exact same thing. neither are ok, just because your body can do something doesn’t mean you should be allowed to do it before you are cognitively aware of the ramifications, and have a developed decision making process (kids and young teens do not have these things).

in the past 16 year olds were fucked and raised children but that doesn’t mean it was right when it happened, or that it should keep happening.

also, i don’t know if you noticed it, but you actually just proved yourself wrong by saying this:

but with society and technology people changed and reach that maturity slower than before

even if that is true it means that it makes sense to raise the age of consent instead of lower it, if you think teens now are less mature than before!

also if they wouldn't be able to raise a child at that age why would their body push them to have sex.

“if kids aren’t supposed to sign contracts why can they read and write?” bad argument.

 

[pizza]

Majority of men over like 27 look like shit and are balding with trash collagen

age is cope for chad,chad still chad after 100+ years

 

[ProAcktiv]

Ok let me go a little slower because you still aren’t understanding what i’m saying. I’ll even put it in bigger, bolder font for you.

You claimed, originally, that it was ironic that i told albeacho not to respond with a meme and defend his position.

do you understand so far?

As the debate continued, albeacho ended up being the one to simply respond with a meme, while i was taking the debate seriously.

can you still understand? reread parts of the post if you have gotten lost or confused!

Your claim that you were using my medicine against me was unfounded due to these above reasons.

if you can understand this then feel free to respond, or have your caretaker or your mom reread it to you.

breadtube huh?

 

[Deleted member 2403]

i’ll respond to this

“Think of it like alcohol, why should teens be allowed to drink alcohol with each other, but not with adults”

they aren’t? you have to be 21 to drink. you can’t consume alcohol under that age.


“Its illegal for ANYONE 18 AND UP to drink alcohol WITH ANYONE UNDER 18, but ANYONE UNDER 18 can drink alcohol with ANYONE UNDER 18 legally. Also ANYONE UNDER 18 who drinks alcohol with SOMEONE 18 AND UPcannot be punished, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OF THE "LEGAL AGE" CAN BE PUNISHED”

21 drinking age. end of story.

“There should be a line drawn somewhere, i'd say somewhere from 13 to 16, where you are considered allowed to have sex with ANYONE. Romeo and Juliet laws are stupid as shit.”

i would have to get into more detail on why he thinks this is the case since he isn’t here to debate me or my points. what i’ve said with albeacho should be enough to understand my reasoning.

“Also, "manipulation", is cope. All social interaction is manipulation,”

therefore no laws should exist to prevent manipulation from happening? in that case why not fuck a baby if they say “yes”? really poor reasoning.

“and a teenager can actually manipulate an adult.”

since a teen is far more likely to be manipulated by an adult than vice versa it would make sense to protect minors.

“Think of the Nordic Model of prostitution, its illegal to buy the sex but not illegal to sell it. That's similar to how age of consent works. Young teens are actually allowed to pursue adults who have an urge to fuck teens, and there is no law against the teen doing this.”

idc about nordic whatever bullshit. he is essentially just restating his core position which i disagree with. there you go.

Ironic how you have pink name colour and pink kirby Avi and you’re arguing with pinkwell

 

[Deleted member 8576]

Ironic how you have pink name colour and pink kirby Avi and you’re arguing with pinkwell

lel

 

[Deleted member 2403]

lel

i only jfl’d your post cause it was funny you’re finally arguing with pinkwell, I wish he was here

 

[Deleted member 275]

i’ll respond to this

“Think of it like alcohol, why should teens be allowed to drink alcohol with each other, but not with adults”

they aren’t? you have to be 21 to drink. you can’t consume alcohol under that age.


“Its illegal for ANYONE 18 AND UP to drink alcohol WITH ANYONE UNDER 18, but ANYONE UNDER 18 can drink alcohol with ANYONE UNDER 18 legally. Also ANYONE UNDER 18 who drinks alcohol with SOMEONE 18 AND UPcannot be punished, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OF THE "LEGAL AGE" CAN BE PUNISHED”

21 drinking age. end of story.

“There should be a line drawn somewhere, i'd say somewhere from 13 to 16, where you are considered allowed to have sex with ANYONE. Romeo and Juliet laws are stupid as shit.”

i would have to get into more detail on why he thinks this is the case since he isn’t here to debate me or my points. what i’ve said with albeacho should be enough to understand my reasoning.

“Also, "manipulation", is cope. All social interaction is manipulation,”

therefore no laws should exist to prevent manipulation from happening? in that case why not fuck a baby if they say “yes”? really poor reasoning.

“and a teenager can actually manipulate an adult.”

since a teen is far more likely to be manipulated by an adult than vice versa it would make sense to protect minors.

“Think of the Nordic Model of prostitution, its illegal to buy the sex but not illegal to sell it. That's similar to how age of consent works. Young teens are actually allowed to pursue adults who have an urge to fuck teens, and there is no law against the teen doing this.”

idc about nordic whatever bullshit. he is essentially just restating his core position which i disagree with. there you go.

drinking age is 16 to 18 in most of europe.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

drinking age is 16 to 18 in most of europe.

well europe is full o’ fuckin nonces innit bruv?

 

[Deleted member 275]

well europe is full o’ fuckin nonces innit bruv?

imagine if laws of alcohol consumption went like this:

“Its illegal for ANYONE 21 AND UP to drink alcohol WITH ANYONE UNDER 21, but ANYONE UNDER 21 can drink alcohol with ANYONE UNDER 21 legally. Also ANYONE UNDER 21 who drinks alcohol with SOMEONE 21 AND UP cannot be punished, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OF THE "LEGAL AGE" CAN BE PUNISHED”

(i changed the numbers, happy? also age of alcohol consumption varies by country, in some countries you can drink at age 18 legally)

wouldn't that be stupid? they set a law that underage drinking is illegal. so why is underage sex legal then just because both are underage? its flawed. there should be some line where if it is illegal, its illegal period for the underage person period

 

[Deleted member 8576]

imagine if laws of alcohol consumption went like this:

“Its illegal for ANYONE 21 AND UP to drink alcohol WITH ANYONE UNDER 21, but ANYONE UNDER 21 can drink alcohol with ANYONE UNDER 21 legally. Also ANYONE UNDER 21 who drinks alcohol with SOMEONE 21 AND UP cannot be punished, ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OF THE "LEGAL AGE" CAN BE PUNISHED”

bro i responded to pinkwell’s entire spiel and my position is that no one below 21 should drink alcohol at all.

they set a law that underage drinking is illegal. so why is underage sex legal then just because both are underage?

i don’t think underage people should be having sex. you are attacking positions i don’t hold because you didn’t read the debate me an albeacho had.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

it depends on what kind of maturity you mean.

of course a 16 year old’s body is ready to have sex but there have been 5 year olds who have gotten pregnant and had children—i’m not making that up, that’s actually happened, google it if you want it’s very disturbing.

if you think that a 16 year old should be able to have sex because her body is ready for it, then you could argue that a kid should be allowed to sign a contact if they can read and write. it’s the exact same thing. neither are ok, just because your body can do something doesn’t mean you should be allowed to do it before you are cognitively aware of the ramifications, and have a developed decision making process (kids and young teens do not have these things).

in the past 16 year olds were fucked and raised children but that doesn’t mean it was right when it happened, or that it should keep happening.

also, i don’t know if you noticed it, but you actually just proved yourself wrong by saying this:

even if that is true it means that it makes sense to raise the age of consent instead of lower it, if you think teens now are less mature than before!

“if kids aren’t supposed to sign contracts why can they read and write?” bad argument.

I was not talking about body maturity but they reached mental maturity faster and with my second point what i mean is that then the problem is maybe not age of consent but the way society raise children cause by raising the age of consent the real problem is still not fixed people are still going to have the same pulsion at the same age but not the mental maturity to assume the consequences . I feel like the example of writing and reading is bad cause those things are nothing compared to sex and giving birth its litteraly what make our species survive our body know it and wouldn't push us to have sex cause it know how important it is, i might be wrong tho.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Also those 5 yo got raped its different their body didn't push them to have sex

 

[Deleted member 8576]

but they reached mental maturity faster

i don’t know how true this is, but if you admit that teens USED to reach maturity faster than they do now, that would defeat your own argument.

by raising the age of consent the real problem is still not fixed

laws aren’t designed to fix problems, they are designed to curb behavior. if you illegalize murder then murder can still happen, if you raise the age of consent underage people can still fuck, i know. the goal it to curb behaviors to protect people, that is the function of a law.

people are still going to have the same pulsion at the same age but not the mental maturity to assume the consequences

again, you can still try to curb behavior.

I feel like the example of writing and reading is bad cause those things are nothing compared to sex

i don’t think you’re understanding the analogy. your argument was that if your body can do it and you want to do it, you should be allowed to do it. it seems like you no longer agree with this idea.

giving birth its litteraly what make our species survive

i fail to see how this is related to anything, really. a 21 year old can have children, it’s not like i’m preventing the species from continuing by saying it should be a 21 AOC.

our body know it and wouldn't push us to have sex

this is a bad argument. humans have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years but just because they have a natural urge to kill doesn’t mean it should be allowed. appealing to nature will not help.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

“Like 30”

Hes probably actually 25 and she is exaggerating.

He does sound like a dumbass in denial but her attitude is just as disgusting.

 

[Albeacho]

by having sex you are essentially agreeing that you could possibly impregnate or become pregnant. just like by signing a contract you are agreeing, most likely, that there are possible negative ramifications for your actions. you need to be able to know if you’re possibly going to get fucked over and have major parts of your life ruined (or maybe your entire life ruined). why not do what you can to protect young children/teens?

you were arguing that because something happens regardless of the law, it should be legal. i showed you how you were wrong with those examples.

i can easily argue that murder is simple and basic because humans have been doing it for like 300,000 years. as human beings killing is a natural desire, so let us kill people. your argument seems to be that sex is a super simple basic thing, which is very different from your previous arguments, but sex could possibly create an entire new person. it could mean a 14 year old has to become a mom. it could mean an adult coerces someone who is mentally deficient into having kids with them or some crazy shit.

i could use the “basic need” argument against you in many different ways.

never debated him or ran into him ngl but when he comes back (if he does) i’ll get to him like i’ve gotten to many others.

once again, you are arguing for the non-existence of laws. laws exist to try to curb behavior. even though we can’t stop something putting a law in place means we can protect people from all kinds of things better than having no law at all. to no offense, this is the worst possible argument you could use and i think you see why.

I just got in contact with @personalityinkwell to further talk about this issue his response is:

you said "teens shouldnt be having sex", but you also dont think it should be illegal for them to do it with each other. why should teens be legally allowed to fuck each other but not drink alcohol

 

[Deleted member 8576]

you said "teens shouldnt be having sex", but you also dont think it should be illegal for them to do it with each other. why should teens be legally allowed to fuck each other but not drink alcohol

the reason why it shouldn't be illegal is because, as i have said previously, i don't want minors prosecuted. no one below 21 should be drinking alcohol but again, i don't think minors should be prosecuted.

 

[Albeacho]

the reason why it shouldn't be illegal is because, as i have said previously, i don't want minors prosecuted. no one below 21 should be drinking alcohol but again, i don't think minors should be prosecuted.

PersonalityInkwell:

so if a minor is caught drinking alcohol, no prosecution?

 

[Deleted member 8576]

so if a minor is caught drinking alcohol, no prosecution?

no i don't think a minor should be legally prosecuted for consuming alcohol that would be very fucked up. if its possible to find the person who distributed to them there should be penalties for them i think.

 

[Albeacho]

no i don't think a minor should be legally prosecuted for consuming alcohol that would be very fucked up. if its possible to find the person who distributed to them there should be penalties for them i think.

@personalityinkwell:

interesting. but all that does is make it easy for minors to drink alcohol and they have zero fear of being punished for their drinking

 

[Deleted member 11053]

i don’t know how true this is, but if you admit that teens USED to reach maturity faster than they do now, that would defeat your own argument.

laws aren’t designed to fix problems, they are designed to curb behavior. if you illegalize murder then murder can still happen, if you raise the age of consent underage people can still fuck, i know. the goal it to curb behaviors to protect people, that is the function of a law.

again, you can still try to curb behavior.

i don’t think you’re understanding the analogy. your argument was that if your body can do it and you want to do it, you should be allowed to do it. it seems like you no longer agree with this idea.

i fail to see how this is related to anything, really. a 21 year old can have children, it’s not like i’m preventing the species from continuing by saying it should be a 21 AOC.

this is a bad argument. humans have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years but just because they have a natural urge to kill doesn’t mean it should be allowed. appealing to nature will not help.

Im not sure about the maturity thing too lol but i feel like and i wanted you to confirm it for me. Agree on the laws things.

Reading and writing is things that we learn our body doesn't even push us to learn it which mean it doesn't considerate important for survival, sex is something that we all naturally will have the pulsion to have and yes you dont prevent the species from continuing by raising the age of consent but our body wouldn't push us to have sex between each other so hard if it was bad for the child, our body want to put every chance on his side and make sure the baby grow up in the best condition possible as its important for survival that he turn ouf the best version he could be.

Agree that our body have bad side and we shouldn't listen to all of our pulsion and im aware that sex at a young age might be one of them but im not sure

Just to clarify im not really for that people have sex at a young age, im not really sure about those things and i ask myself those questions that's why im asking you.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

no i don't think a minor should be legally prosecuted for consuming alcohol that would be very fucked up. if its possible to find the person who distributed to them there should be penalties for them i think.

basically what 21 being the drinking age means is you can't go to a bar and get alcohol if you can't show you're over 21, you can't purchase beer from a store if you can't show you're 21, but if you get your hands on it and you're a minor i don't think you need to go to jail. distributing alcohol to a minor would be a crime.

 

[Albeacho]

basically what 21 being the drinking age means is you can't go to a bar and get alcohol if you can't show you're over 21, you can't purchase beer from a store if you can't show you're 21, but if you get your hands on it and you're a minor i don't think you need to go to jail. distributing alcohol to a minor would be a crime.

@personalityinkwell:

so all that does is cause people under 21 to drink alcohol at private parties, and they can easily find a way to get alcohol
its not that complicated

 

[Deleted member 8576]

interesting. but all that does is make it easy for minors to drink alcohol and they have zero fear of being punished for their drinking

no it wouldn't make it easy for minors to drink at all, they can't buy alcohol from anywhere. and also this is already how the law works as far as i know; if you are a minor and you are caught drinking a beer you're not gonna go to jail. the drinking age is designed to make it very difficult for minors to get alcohol

 

[Deleted member 8576]

so all that does is cause people under 21 to drink alcohol at private parties, and they can easily find a way to get alcohol
its not that complicated

its better than letting a minor walk into a bar or a store and just buy alcohol off a shelf. this argument is very very ridiculous to me. this is like saying "making murder illegal will just make it so people murder people when no one is around so its way harder to find them. its not that complicated". by putting a law in place you want to CURB BEHAVIOR to a reasonable degree. illegal things will still happen if you have laws but having a law makes it so the illegal thing HOPEFULLY happens less.

 

[Albeacho]

no it wouldn't make it easy for minors to drink at all, they can't buy alcohol from anywhere. and also this is already how the law works as far as i know; if you are a minor and you are caught drinking a beer you're not gonna go to jail. the drinking age is designed to make it very difficult for minors to get alcohol

@personalityinkwell:

seems like a shitty law ngl

I would raise alcohol consumption to age 25, thats when the brain finishes development officially. this would also significantly reduce the amount of alcohol consumed on college campuses. remember a lrage % of college students are 21-22, so they can all legally buy alcohol. if you raised it to 25, wouldnt that make it harder for college students of all ages to get access to alcohol?

 

[Albeacho]

its better than letting a minor walk into a bar or a store and just buy alcohol off a shelf. this argument is very very ridiculous to me. this is like saying "making murder illegal will just make it so people murder people when no one is around so its way harder to find them. its not that complicated". by putting a law in place you want to CURB BEHAVIOR to a reasonable degree. illegal things will still happen if you have laws but having a law makes it so the illegal thing HOPEFULLY happens less.

@personalityinkwell:
also with the murder argument, you deter them because if they break the law and get caught, they go to jail for life, or at least very long. with underage drinking, they have no deterrent

 

[Deleted member 3512]

I've missed the main point : a random stranger who ask a girl never seen before her number and a dinner date....

 

[Deleted member 11053]

This nigga @personalityinkwell is really defending is point outside the forum

 

[Deleted member 8576]

seems like a shitty law ngl

maybe it could be improved? right now the age to drink alcohol is 21 and i don't particularly have a problem with that, and minors are never prosecuted for drinking alcohol, which i am also fine with.

I would raise alcohol consumption to age 25, thats when the brain finishes development officially. this would also significantly reduce the amount of alcohol consumed on college campuses. remember a lrage % of college students are 21-22, so they can all legally buy alcohol. if you raised it to 25, wouldnt that make it harder for college students of all ages to get access to alcohol?

i don't think i disagree very much with any of this, if you have good reason to believe that it should be raised to due cognitive-developmental reasons then that doesn't sound like a bad idea. yeah, raising it to 25 WOULD make it harder for college students to get access to alcohol, i imagine that's what the law would do.

 

[Albeacho]

maybe it could be improved? right now the age to drink alcohol is 21 and i don't particularly have a problem with that, and minors are never prosecuted for drinking alcohol, which i am also fine with.

i don't think i disagree very much with any of this, if you have good reason to believe that it should be raised to due cognitive-developmental reasons then that doesn't sound like a bad idea. yeah, raising it to 25 WOULD make it harder for college students to get access to alcohol, i imagine that's what the law would do.

@personalityinkwell:

im going out to buy some booze, ill be back in 10-15 minutes

 

[Deleted member 11406]

Oldcels don't rope, my grandfather was 38 yo when he married my grandma, she was 16 btw

 

[Albeacho]

Oldcels don't rope, my grandfather was 38 yo when he married my grandma, she was 16 btw

Based giga Chad. Mirin.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Im not sure about the maturity thing too lol but i feel like and i wanted you to confirm it for me. Agree on the laws things.

Reading and writing is things that we learn our body doesn't even push us to learn it which mean it doesn't considerate important for survival, sex is something that we all naturally will have the pulsion to have and yes you dont prevent the species from continuing by raising the age of consent but our body wouldn't push us to have sex between each other so hard if it was bad for the child, our body want to put every chance on his side and make sure the baby grow up in the best condition possible as its important for survival that he turn ouf the best version he could be.

Agree that our body have bad side and we shouldn't listen to all of our pulsion and im aware that sex at a young age might be one of them but im not sure

Just to clarify im not really for that people have sex at a young age, im not really sure about those things and i ask myself those questions that's why im asking you.

@Original brutal no response

 

[datboijj]

negli

 

[Deleted member 8576]

Reading and writing is things that we learn our body doesn't even push us to learn it which mean it doesn't considerate important for survival

in the modern day being able to read and write is almost crucial. our brains evolved to be able to understand language and put it down--how else would we be able to do it? i can still argue that since humans evolved to have the capacity to write and teach their offspring to write and read, then anyone who can write and read should be able to sign a contract.

our body wouldn't push us to have sex between each other so hard if it was bad for the child

"Humans would have never owned slaves if slavery wasn't ok, why else would human beings want to own slaves?"
Appeals to nature and saying "its what our bodies push us to do" or "nature lets us do it" is never going to help you with this argument. having an evolutionary desire to do something doesn't mean it is ok to do it.

 

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@Albeacho is pinkwell back or is he done debating for now?

 

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in the modern day being able to read and write is almost crucial. our brains evolved to be able to understand language and put it down--how else would we be able to do it? i can still argue that since humans evolved to have the capacity to write and teach their offspring to write and read, then anyone who can write and read should be able to sign a contract.

"Humans would have never owned slaves if slavery wasn't ok, why else would human beings want to own slaves?"
Appeals to nature and saying "its what our bodies push us to do" or "nature lets us do it" is never going to help you with this argument. having an evolutionary desire to do something doesn't mean it is ok to do it.

You still have not convinced me totally but idk what to respond tbh, i agree on the laws tho

 

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@Albeacho is pinkwell back or is he done debating for now?

He didn't come back from getting booze yet. It will probably continue tomorrow.

 

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You still have not convinced me but idk what to respond tbh, i agree on the laws tho

ok i have a hypothetical question for you: if 5 year olds had the same sex drive and impulse as 15 year olds, should the age of consent be 5?