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Height is something that everyone knows about, I.e 6’0>5’9. This is especially prevalent in today’s society where the tall guy can build upon his attractiveness whereas the short guy has to compensate. My personal belief is that 5’11/10 is the bare minimum. Anything shorter and you will drastically suffer and will have a very limited dating pool unless you’re older (women lower standards as they get older) or statusmaxxed/moneymaxxed. In other words as a short guy most women will love you for what materials you have not who you actually are. The world really isn’t fair to short dudes
 
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Height is something that everyone knows about, I.e 6’0>5’9. This is especially prevalent in today’s society where the tall guy can build upon his attractiveness whereas the short guy has to compensate. My personal belief is that 5’11/10 is the bare minimum. Anything shorter and you will drastically suffer and will have a very limited dating pool unless you’re older (women lower standards as they get older) or statusmaxxed/moneymaxxed. In other words as a short guy most women will love you for what materials you have not who you actually are. The world really isn’t fair to short dudes
Also remember, everyone adds on 2 inches. So must of those guys that tell you they are 5'10 are 5'8, and most of those guys that tell you they are 6'0 are 5'10. So don't let online profiles sway you.

Also remember, unless you're 5'8 and the guy is 6'4, a height difference is no where near super noticeable. The type of girls to opt for someone because they are taller than you are not a long-term girl you want anyway. If your dog judged you because you were fat, you'd just look for another dog. Not all women are awful human beings, but some are. Get out and meet them in the real world, stop meeting girls in clubs/on dating profiles, because you will meet vain, lonely women with daddy issues who will probably have the most standards in the world for what they look for in a man despite the fact they bring absolutely nothing to the table.

Now you meet a girl secure with her career, enjoying her hobby with you or one who doesn't enjoy the 'nightlife' you can probably bet she's a keeper. No vanity, no requests, no expectations they are just looking for love and happiness.

A short guy can also certainly be loved by a women for who they are, don't spiel this unusual incel narrative.
The vain girl at the club choosing the tall guy because he's tall doesn't love him for who he is, she loves that he fits a height agenda.
The happy, hobby fuelled healthy girl dating a short guy is aware he's shorter, but likes him for who HE is.
 
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Absolute facts

No woman will ever be happy with you if you are below average height even by 1-2 inches

Women like TALL men

Not average

And certainly not BELOW average.



Life begins at average height.

2+ inches above average height to live a decent life
 
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Absolute facts

No woman will ever be happy with you if you are below average height even by 1-2 inches

Women like TALL men

Not average

And certainly not BELOW average.



Life begins at average height.

2+ inches above average height to live a decent life
Do you Indians really suffer so badly with women that you spiel the utmost amount of rubbish lmao
Ignore the coping indian below if anyone does so happen to read this.
 
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Anyone who disagrees IS COPING
 
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Also remember, everyone adds on 2 inches. So must of those guys that tell you they are 5'10 are 5'8, and most of those guys that tell you they are 6'0 are 5'10. So don't let online profiles sway you.

Also remember, unless you're 5'8 and the guy is 6'4, a height difference is no where near super noticeable. The type of girls to opt for someone because they are taller than you are not a long-term girl you want anyway. If your dog judged you because you were fat, you'd just look for another dog. Not all women are awful human beings, but some are. Get out and meet them in the real world, stop meeting girls in clubs/on dating profiles, because you will meet vain, lonely women with daddy issues who will probably have the most standards in the world for what they look for in a man despite the fact they bring absolutely nothing to the table.

Now you meet a girl secure with her career, enjoying her hobby with you or one who doesn't enjoy the 'nightlife' you can probably bet she's a keeper. No vanity, no requests, no expectations they are just looking for love and happiness.

A short guy can also certainly be loved by a women for who they are, don't spiel this unusual incel narrative.
The vain girl at the club choosing the tall guy because he's tall doesn't love him for who he is, she loves that he fits a height agenda.
The happy, hobby fuelled healthy girl dating a short guy is aware he's shorter, but likes him for who HE is.

Yeah true I agree I'm gonna do a chin surgery first if that doesn't work then leg lengthening
 
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Yeah true I agree I'm gonna do a chin surgery first if that doesn't work then leg lengthening
As more people on this forum should mention. Don't get surgery to get girls, you'll be incredibly disappointed.

Can it help you look more appealing to the girl? Absolutely, and it may make you look more aesthetic/trustful and easier to talk to, so yes it's a benefit, but it's not the sole saviour. You need to use that surgery to better YOURSELF and in turn it opens the door to so many things looking better/being confident, girls are just an addon.

A healthy relationship will always be more nurturing than one night stands with random girls from bars. I've been there, I didn't enjoy it .

Girls are holistically attracted to men as a lifestyle choice, so yes.. looks can play a big part, they do love a well groomed/aesthetic man. But things like height are almost meaningless unless you're below 5'6, then you just need to accept that you'll need to find a shorter girl.

You see that skateboarding guy? he wants to go pro? if he gets with a creative, secure girl that likes textile/fashion, she's probably going to push him in his career and he'll push her in hers.
That same skateboarding guy meets a generic girl from a bar who judges people based on height, his life is over.. she brings nothing to the table but vanity and problems, she won't let him age gracefully without reminding him he's a bald/fat loser if they do stay together and he happens to get out of shape because she's crippling his life.

People, stop searching for girls in bars/dating sites who will bring nothing of any interest to your life. Focus on your career, focus on your hobby and naturally that girl will come along and connect with you and help push you even further in the right direction as you do them. If you get controlled by sex, it's over.
 
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Even 6'1 to 6'0 is a big diffference. I stopped squatting/deadlifting/overhead press for that reason. I went from 6'1.25 to 6'0. every single day due to spinal compression from weightlifting. I have long torso short legs, which makes the compression even worse. I quit those, started compression exercises, now i lose height like a normal person. Im like 6'0.75 at night now instead of 5'11.75 at night due to heavy weight lifting combined with natural spinal compression
 
As more people on this forum should mention. Don't get surgery to get girls, you'll be incredibly disappointed.

Can it help you look more appealing to the girl? Absolutely, and it may make you look more aesthetic/trustful and easier to talk to, so yes it's a benefit, but it's not the sole saviour. You need to use that surgery to better YOURSELF and in turn it opens the door to so many things looking better/being confident, girls are just an addon.

A healthy relationship will always be more nurturing than one night stands with random girls from bars. I've been there, I didn't enjoy it .

Girls are holistically attracted to men as a lifestyle choice, so yes.. looks can play a big part, they do love a well groomed/aesthetic man. But things like height are almost meaningless unless you're below 5'6, then you just need to accept that you'll need to find a shorter girl.

You see that skateboarding guy? he wants to go pro? if he gets with a creative, secure girl that likes textile/fashion, she's probably going to push him in his career and he'll push her in hers.
That same skateboarding guy meets a generic girl from a bar who judges people based on height, his life is over.. she brings nothing to the table but vanity and problems, she won't let him age gracefully without reminding him he's a bald/fat loser if they do stay together and he happens to get out of shape because she's crippling his life.

People, stop searching for girls in bars/dating sites who will bring nothing of any interest to your life. Focus on your career, focus on your hobby and naturally that girl will come along and connect with you and help push you even further in the right direction as you do them. If you get controlled by sex, it's over.
Agreed bro 100%
 
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Focus on your career, focus on your hobby and naturally that girl will come along and connect with you and help push you even further in the right direction as you do them. If you get controlled by sex, it's over.
Such fucking copium, every girl and their mom has social media. This isn't the 60's jfl, it's ovER
 
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No height for your face
 
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No height for your face
Yeah but if you’re ugly 6’4 can save you. 6’4 is much more common than having the face needed to save you at 5’7. Not everyone looks like zac efron, zayn Malik, Justin Bieber.
 
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Such fucking copium, every girl and their mom has social media. This isn't the 60's jfl, it's ovER
You can call it copium. 80% of this forum don't leave the house and are all spreading more and more negative thoughts/ideologies amongst each other.

Yep, every girl has social media. The only girls YOU look at on social media are the ones showing of their bodies/asses all day sitting on dating sites trying to find attention from every man to make up for an entirely traumatic upbringing, when she does try to settle down with a man, she's not great.

One of the coolest girls I met personally was an art-school graduate who also created her own short films. This girl was in great shape, a lot of fun to be around and didn't do the whole night life thing. I was surprised seeing her Instagram, she had 120 followers (consisting of actual friends) and 5 posts in 2 years. Now she had a social media, most people do in some form (although I have met some girls who don't), but this girl was just completely uninterested in using it. I guarantee she could post her body/face and have 1000+ guys following her easily, but she doesn't need that, she's not desperate for attention from thirsty men/incels. This is the type of girl who will treat a man like a king and make him feel secure, confident and passionate about his ambition.

I'm in a band and it's always the same drunk, ex popular girls who are slowly degrading in the looks department to tell me that I'm ''not a very good guitarist'' or that doing a band is a waste of time. Those girls with issues/trauma always take it out on everyone else, all they have to give is sex.
 
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One of the coolest girls I met personally was an art-school graduate who also created her own short films. This girl was in great shape, a lot of fun to be around and didn't do the whole night life thing. I was surprised seeing her Instagram, she had 120 followers (consisting of actual friends) and 5 posts in 2 years. Now she had a social media, most people do in some form (although I have met some girls who don't), but this girl was just completely uninterested in using it. I guarantee she could post her body/face and have 1000+ guys following her easily, but she doesn't need that, she's not desperate for attention from thirsty men/incels. This is the type of girl who will treat a man like a king and make him feel secure, confident and passionate about his ambition.
Just find a unicorn theory

Even then, why would that exception of a girl choose some avg or below looking guy when she has access to the top 10% of men in looks, status, and personaliteehee. Looks are everything if one want's to even get a chance with such a girl
 
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Just find a unicorn theory

Even then, why would that exception of a girl choose some avg or below looking guy when she has access to the top 10% of men in looks, status, and personaliteehee. Looks are everything if one want's to even get a chance with such a girl
Again, you're thinking these types of women are rare, when they really aren't. You're just addicted to the internet so the only girls you're seeing are ones with OnlyFans pages and multiple issues.

Because that girl hasn't been brought up vain and is trying to make up for her shitty life by judging people. Yes, chances are she probably wouldn't pick an incredibly ugly guy. But I can see a guy who grooms himself well, and is at-least average easily acquiring a girl like that. That's why people on this forum are in disbelief when they see an attractive girl with an average dude.

That said art-girls boyfriend is a normie looking dude who's about 5'8. He's a professional photographer. The dude is going to be super happy for life and never rot away online. Why do you think even movie directors/actors who are still broke and haven't made it yet have such great girlfriends? It's because they meet them in a hobby space/craft and they fall for one another on similar interests and not entirely looks.

If you only view girls on social media/clubs, you'll have a negligent viewpoint with the idea that a girl might actually like you for who you are, but who knows, maybe you just have nothing to give, so as a man your match is one of those vain, trauma induced women.
 
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Again, you're thinking these types of women are rare, when they really aren't. You're just addicted to the internet so the only girls you're seeing are ones with OnlyFans pages and multiple issues.

Because that girl hasn't been brought up vain and is trying to make up for her shitty life by judging people. Yes, chances are she probably wouldn't pick an incredibly ugly guy. But I can see a guy who grooms himself well, and is at-least average easily acquiring a girl like that. That's why people on this forum are in disbelief when they see an attractive girl with an average dude.

That said art-girls boyfriend is a normie looking dude who's about 5'8. He's a professional photographer. The dude is going to be super happy for life and never rot away online. Why do you think even movie directors/actors who are still broke and haven't made it yet have such great girlfriends? It's because they meet them in a hobby space/craft and they fall for one another on similar interests and not entirely looks.

If you only view girls on social media/clubs, you'll have a negligent viewpoint with the idea that a girl might actually like you for who you are, but who knows, maybe you just have nothing to give, so as a man your match is one of those vain, trauma induced women.
Idk my dude, highly doubt many women like that exist. Regardless, most users here are also non NT so it's over anyways
 
Idk my dude, highly doubt many women like that exist. Regardless, most users here are also non NT so it's over anyways
Do you leave the house? I've met quite a lot of women like that.

That's the thing, most users here are completely lost and trying to attract the most vain women, because they themselves have become the exact same way. It's a never ending battle for them, I hate to see it in all honesty.
 
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That's the thing, most users here are completely lost and trying to attract the most vain women, because they themselves have become the exact same way. It's a never ending battle for them, I hate to see it in all honesty.
My point is users here, including myself, have no choice but to looksmax to get any women at all because we're not NT
 
Do you leave the house? I've met quite a lot of women like that.

That's the thing, most users here are completely lost and trying to attract the most vain women, because they themselves have become the exact same way. It's a never ending battle for them, I hate to see it in all honesty.
finally some self-aware users here
 
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Jfl this was on limb lengthening forum. Which fellow shortcel is on that site
 
I`m 6`2 and when i`m lean HTN, bruuuh I fell bad a lot of girls said that she sleept with me cuz I was tall idk I preferer that she have facial attractiveness no for my height.
 
As more people on this forum should mention. Don't get surgery to get girls, you'll be incredibly disappointed.

Can it help you look more appealing to the girl? Absolutely, and it may make you look more aesthetic/trustful and easier to talk to, so yes it's a benefit, but it's not the sole saviour. You need to use that surgery to better YOURSELF and in turn it opens the door to so many things looking better/being confident, girls are just an addon.

A healthy relationship will always be more nurturing than one night stands with random girls from bars. I've been there, I didn't enjoy it .

Girls are holistically attracted to men as a lifestyle choice, so yes.. looks can play a big part, they do love a well groomed/aesthetic man. But things like height are almost meaningless unless you're below 5'6, then you just need to accept that you'll need to find a shorter girl.

You see that skateboarding guy? he wants to go pro? if he gets with a creative, secure girl that likes textile/fashion, she's probably going to push him in his career and he'll push her in hers.
That same skateboarding guy meets a generic girl from a bar who judges people based on height, his life is over.. she brings nothing to the table but vanity and problems, she won't let him age gracefully without reminding him he's a bald/fat loser if they do stay together and he happens to get out of shape because she's crippling his life.

People, stop searching for girls in bars/dating sites who will bring nothing of any interest to your life. Focus on your career, focus on your hobby and naturally that girl will come along and connect with you and help push you even further in the right direction as you do them. If you get controlled by sex, it's over.
yep. found the female user in this forum.
 
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Height is something that everyone knows about, I.e 6’0>5’9. This is especially prevalent in today’s society where the tall guy can build upon his attractiveness whereas the short guy has to compensate. My personal belief is that 5’11/10 is the bare minimum. Anything shorter and you will drastically suffer and will have a very limited dating pool unless you’re older (women lower standards as they get older) or statusmaxxed/moneymaxxed. In other words as a short guy most women will love you for what materials you have not who you actually are. The world really isn’t fair to short dudes
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