Brutal JBW pill just witnessed LTN oldcel getting jbs simping for him just because hes white

[lastofus123]

I've read that study and I've read several other studies. Sicilians aren't particularly close to Mainland Greeks; it is GREEK ISLANDERS they are closest to.

Ancient and recent admixture layers in Sicily and Southern Italy trace multiple migration routes along the Mediterranean - PMC

The Mediterranean shores stretching between Sicily, Southern Italy and the Southern Balkans witnessed a long series of migration processes and cultural exchanges. Accordingly, present-day population diversity is composed by multiple genetic layers, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Genetic history of the population of Crete - PMC

The medieval history of several populations often suffers from scarcity of contemporary records resulting in contradictory and sometimes biased interpretations by historians. This is the situation with the population of the island of Crete, which ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Low distances" between "Greeks" and Sicilians is due the term "Greek" meaning ALL populations of Greece combined and averaged.

Differential Greek and northern African migrations to Sicily are supported by genetic evidence from the Y chromosome - European Journal of Human Genetics

The presence or absence of genetic heterogeneity in Sicily has long been debated. Through the analysis of the variation of Y-chromosome lineages, using the combination of haplogroups and short tandem repeats from several areas of Sicily, we show that traces of genetic flows occurred in the...

www.nature.com

Yeah even in your studies and other studies show that Sicilians plot closer to Greeks and Ashnakazi Jews who themselves have around 50-60 percent European DNA plus they plot closer to Northern Italians than to any MENA populations

Tbh, I'll admit some Sicilians can look Levantine at the most, but not once have I seen any Italian, Sicilian or not look like the brown skin Bedouin

 

[enlightful]

Local hot jb girl takes a video with a RANDOM WHITE TOURIST posts it on tiktok she doesn't even know who this is literally a stranger tells her followers to find him. Guys... the comments were JBs ... JBs simping for him...

Dude has a stubble HE HAS FEW GRAY HAIRS literally oldcel must be like 40+ and the comments are prime JBs SIMPING FOR HIM he is legit LTN

I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY WHITE PEOPLE GET MAD WHEN ETHNICS TAKE THEIR WOMEN. ITS BRUTAL TO SEE YOUR OWN KIND LOOK DOWN ON YOU BUT GO FOR A LTN WHITE GUY WHOS AN OLDCEL LOL 40+ YEARS
Im lowkey mad too this pissed me off

JBW is actually brutal bro
@pfl @druiglooksmaxer

Send tbe vid or it didnt happen

 

[enlightful]

No you know whyvthis shocked me it's cause I'm not joking most of those that simped over him are JBs BRO they are supposed to like young pretty boys and some JBWmaxxed oldcel cleans up wth

Yea jbws go for either guys very youthful or very matured, there's virtually 0 in-between

Though I will say most prefer youth and mainly the psychologically damaged ones with daddy issues are the ones who like men much older

 

[TheStonerOne]

Bro, this isnt cherrypicking, these are screenshots from this video of people in Toarmina, Siciliy, heres the video for proof



so your argument is already moot

Again those pics are screenshots from a video of people in Taormina, Sicily so try again

They plot closer to Southern Europeans than any other population in the Middle East and anything else is cope

They plot closest to Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Greek Islanders and Maltese and NOT Iberians, French or Western/Eastern Balkan/Mainland Greek populations. I wonder what these all have or lack in common (!)

Do they plot closer to Northern Europeans than Levantines? No. That means that MOST Europeans (because most Europeans are Northern) are more distant to a Sicilian than some random Palestinian getting occupied by Zionist terrorists.

I will admit that Southern Italians/Ashkenazi Jews are closer to Northern Italians than to Levantines but it's not like Northern Italians themselves are particularly lacking in Middle Eastern ancestry; it's still comparable to Albania (so notable) as opposed to absent in general.

As for the video screenshots, still cherry-picking. We have data on the average skin tone of Southern Italians. Even then, is that a "proof" Sicilians can be as "white" as Nordics? It's a proof against it since no Swede looks like that. A "white Sicilian" is easily distinguished from a Swede. These "white" Sicilians would still have been called "wog" in Australia.

 

[lastofus123]

They plot closest to Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Greek Islanders and Maltese

Ashnakazi Jews already have 50-60 percent European Dna and both Greek Islanders and Maltese plot closer to Caucasian populations like Georgians and Armenians who are ambiguously white than Levantines who are arabised

and NOT Iberians, French or Western/Eastern Balkan/Mainland Greek populations. I wonder what these all have or lack in common (!)

They also plot closer to northern italians who themselves have germanic DNA

Do they plot closer to Northern Europeans than Levantines? No. That means that MOST Europeans (because most Europeans are Northern) are more distant to a Sicilian than some random Palestinian getting occupied by Zionist terrorists.

No tf they aren't, just becuase they dont plot close to swedes doesn't mean they aren't a European population, also explain why Northern Italians plot closest to Southern Italians and Northern Italians themselves plot closest to Swiss

I will admit that Southern Italians/Ashkenazi Jews are closer to Northern Italians than to Levantines but it's not like Northern Italians themselves are particularly lacking in Middle Eastern ancestry; it's still comparable to Albania (so notable) as opposed to absent in general.

As for the video screenshots, still cherry-picking.

How is it goddamn cherrypicking when its literally from a video of an hour of a guy walking through the town? Explain that to me right now

You can look through the video yourself and see which one looks arab or nafri or whatver

We have data on the average skin tone of Southern Italians.

Muh data meanwhile i can search up tour videos and even crowd photos like this and see that they ob

Even then, is that a "proof" Sicilians can be as "white" as Nordics? It's a proof against it since no Swede looks like that. A "white Sicilian" is easily distinguished from a Swede. These "white" Sicilians would still have been called "wog" in Australia.

Are we seriously using swedes as the definition for white? You do realise most Brits dont even look like swedes and can be easily distinguished as well? Phenotypically Sicilians look closer to Europeans then they do mena and genetically they are more European

 

[soggra]

Local hot jb girl takes a video with a RANDOM WHITE TOURIST posts it on tiktok she doesn't even know who this is literally a stranger tells her followers to find him. Guys... the comments were JBs ... JBs simping for him...

Dude has a stubble HE HAS FEW GRAY HAIRS literally oldcel must be like 40+ and the comments are prime JBs SIMPING FOR HIM he is legit LTN

I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY WHITE PEOPLE GET MAD WHEN ETHNICS TAKE THEIR WOMEN. ITS BRUTAL TO SEE YOUR OWN KIND LOOK DOWN ON YOU BUT GO FOR A LTN WHITE GUY WHOS AN OLDCEL LOL 40+ YEARS
Im lowkey mad too this pissed me off

JBW is actually brutal bro
@pfl @druiglooksmaxer

DNR

Cumskin ramblings

 

[TheStonerOne]

Ashnakazi Jews already have 50-60 percent European Dna and both Greek Islanders and Maltese plot closer to Caucasian populations like Georgians and Armenians who are ambiguously white than Levantines who are arabised

They also plot closer to northern italians who themselves have germanic DNA

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No tf they aren't, just becuase they dont plot close to swedes doesn't mean they aren't a European population, also explain why Northern Italians plot closest to Southern Italians and Northern Italians themselves plot closest to Swiss

How is it goddamn cherrypicking when its literally from a video of an hour of a guy walking through the town? Explain that to me right now

You can look through the video yourself and see which one looks arab or nafri or whatver

Muh data meanwhile i can search up tour videos and even crowd photos like this and see that they ob

Are we seriously using swedes as the definition for white? You do realise most Brits dont even look like swedes and can be easily distinguished as well? Phenotypically Sicilians look closer to Europeans then they do mena and genetically they are more European

The fact that a Brit looks distinguished from a Swede doesn't change the fact that they are closer in terms of average skin tone and phenotype in general than even the whitest of Southern Italians.

Indeed, we CAN and SHOULD use Swedes as the definition of "white" since they are amongst the whitest people on Earth. Even by European standards, this is true.

Also, misleading and vague to say that Southern Italians are more "genetically European" than Middle Eastern. Genetically more SOUTHERN EUROPEAN would be "more accurate" and there IS a key distinction. These are distinctive ancestral components.

Let's actually ignore Italy as a whole for a bit. We'll come back to it. There is a sizable distance between Finns and French peoples. Mind you, French are a mixed Southern/Northern European population and they have relatively low levels of Middle Eastern ancestry. Finns have pretty much no Southern European or Middle Eastern ancestries. Coming back to Italy, there is obviously a cline from Iberia to the South Caucasus, Anatolia and the Levant (particularly Cypriots who are relatively more Southern European shifted than other Levantines). At according to this PCA, Northern Italians are more distant to Southern Italians than Turks, Armenians, Cypriots and at best equidistant from Syrians.

As for the claim that Northern Italians have Germanic/Northern European ancestry

Well, that's CLEARLY (dark blue) a smaller component of their ancestry than their SOUTHERN (light blue) component. Similar to their Middle Eastern (specifically Anatolian/Caucasian/Levantine beige) component. We actually have the genetic distance map for this particular study.

Studies vary and it isn't wise to use single studies or analyses. At least according to this study, the majority of Southern Italian (Abruzzese and Sicilians) DNA isn't European (both shades of blue) at all. If you take the orange (Middle Eastern/Natufian/Arabian) and combine it with the beige, it is clearly a slight majority of their ancestry.

How does that work? If according to this study, Southern Italians are slightly >50% ME, why are they closer to various Southern Europeans? They're not closer to various Southern Europeans than to Turks or Cypriots. Here's a question. Why are Syrians closer to Greeks/Abruzzese/Sicilians than Saudis or Egyptians? Because genetic closeness is about sharing PROPORTIONS. The chart I showed was edited by me to compare Europeans (couldn't remove Cypriots easily)

If you look at the full bar charts with the Middle Eastern populations restored, you'll see the AMOUNTS of beige shared between Syrians/Sicilians/Abruzzese/Greeks is greater than what is shared between Saudis and Syrians. Having similar qualities isn't sufficient; rather, it is QUANTITY that matters. Having "Germanic" DNA doesn't distance Northern Italians from Southern Italians provided it isn't OVERWHELMING. The OVERWHELMING Northern European ancestry in Finns, Swedes and Russians distances them from Southern Italians. It is PROPORTIONS of Southern European and Anatolian ancestries that "possibly" make them closer to each other than Southerners are to Levantines.

Now that the genetics are done, are Sicilians physically closer to Europeans as a whole than to Middle Easterners? Depends on what you mean by "European" and "Middle Eastern".

If by "Middle East" we mean Turkey, no. Turks and Southern Italians have roughly the same average skin complexion. Same applies to the Southern Caucasus. If by "Middle East" we mean Yemen, then yes.

A study is better than an anecdotal video. You can see where South Italy is and compare it to elsewhere.

This study suggest similar results. So it's not just the "one study".

 

[lastofus123]

The fact that a Brit looks distinguished from a Swede doesn't change the fact that they are closer in terms of average skin tone and phenotype in general than even the whitest of Southern Italians.

Because they are from a colder climate similar to the Nordics while Meds tend to be in a hotter climate, but even phenotypically they tend to look a lot closer to the French and the Brits then they do any Arabs or Nafris

Dude I've seen both Arabs and Nafris in Europe and not once have I ever seen them as Italian

Indeed, we CAN and SHOULD use Swedes as the definition of "white" since they are amongst the whitest people on Earth. Even by European standards, this is true.

Then most of the Balkans, lot of Eastern European countries, the French, the Spanish and the Portugese and even a lot of Anglo Saxon Brits wouldn't be considered as white

I swear you Nordicists are mentally ill

Also, misleading and vague to say that Southern Italians are more "genetically European" than Middle Eastern. Genetically more SOUTHERN EUROPEAN would be "more accurate" and there IS a key distinction. These are distinctive ancestral components.

Italians have more Anatolian and EEF plus a little Yamnaya that sets them way apart from other MENA groups genetically

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Let's actually ignore Italy as a whole for a bit. We'll come back to it. There is a sizable distance between Finns and French peoples. Mind you, French are a mixed Southern/Northern European population and they have relatively low levels of Middle Eastern ancestry. Finns have pretty much no Southern European or Middle Eastern ancestries.

Most Studies i see show Southern Italians also show a lot amount of MENA and are mostly connected to Greek Islanders and Caucasians while also having more European ancestry which is why they are whiter

As for the claim that Northern Italians have Germanic/Northern European ancestry

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Well, that's CLEARLY (dark blue) a smaller component of their ancestry than their SOUTHERN (light blue) component. Similar to their Middle Eastern (specifically Anatolian/Caucasian/Levantine beige) component. We actually have the genetic distance map for this particular study.

I found the study for it

Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers

Contemporary inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula belong to several ethnic groups of diverse cultural background. In this study, three ethnic groups from Bosnia and Herzegovina - Bosniacs, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs - as well as the populations of Serbians, Croatians, Macedonians from the...

journals.plos.org

And the full thing is here

And the beige isn't a middle Eastern component, its a Caucaus thing which is in both Europeans and MENA's so its neither Middle Eastern or European but something else, but it would still be considered 'white' but Sicilians still show less yellow which is actual MENA and more European

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This isn’t showing direct ancestry — it’s just a simplified visual of genetic similarity, and it’s not precise enough to measure true closeness. In this type of diagram, being “in between” only means sharing some genetic signals with both sides. It doesn’t mean equal relatedness or stronger ties — it’s just a rough representation of shared patterns.

Studies vary and it isn't wise to use single studies or analyses. At least according to this study, the majority of Southern Italian (Abruzzese and Sicilians) DNA isn't European (both shades of blue) at all. If you take the orange (Middle Eastern/Natufian/Arabian) and combine it with the beige, it is clearly a slight majority of their ancestry.

Beige is Caucasian which is neither European or Middle Eastern but would still be considered as white

How does that work? If according to this study, Southern Italians are slightly >50% ME, why are they closer to various Southern Europeans?

Caucaus admixture isnt purely MENA nor is it European tho, its a mixture of both since European populations and MENA populations also have it as a shared component

They're not closer to various Southern Europeans than to Turks or Cypriots. Here's a question. Why are Syrians closer to Greeks/Abruzzese/Sicilians than Saudis or Egyptians? Because genetic closeness is about sharing PROPORTIONS. The chart I showed was edited by me to compare Europeans (couldn't remove Cypriots easily)

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From the same study, this is an FST heatmap which shows actual genetic similarity

Heat map where darker equals closer, they show that Sicilians are more closer to Southern European populations than MENA minus Caucasians like Georgians

If you look at the full bar charts with the Middle Eastern populations restored, you'll see the AMOUNTS of beige shared between Syrians/Sicilians/Abruzzese/Greeks is greater than what is shared between Saudis and Syrians.

Western Balkan populations have around the same level of Caucasian as Sicilians though and I wouldn't consider them Arabs

Having similar qualities isn't sufficient; rather, it is QUANTITY that matters. Having "Germanic" DNA doesn't distance Northern Italians from Southern Italians provided it isn't OVERWHELMING. The OVERWHELMING Northern European ancestry in Finns, Swedes and Russians distances them from Southern Italians. It is PROPORTIONS of Southern European and Anatolian ancestries that "possibly" make them closer to each other than Southerners are to Levantines.

I mean

Do these people look like Syrians? I can maybe see Turks, but Turks are also mixed themselves with Balkan populations especially in cities like Istanbul

 

[97baHater]

Those genetic distances are so far that it doesn't even matter

It’s a diff model retard

But either way they plot closer to Nordics and northern Italians then they do to any Nafri country

They don’t you’re retarded especially since I sent a study (nothing to do with the cpd)

What? Are we looking at the same people?? They literally have pink skin and look like they can pass anywhere in the Balkans

This look ethnic to you as well?

What a low IQ argument this is pure cope that’s pure cherry picking (also a lot look like shitskins from the levant and North Africa JFLLL) I could literally do the same

Should I now claim Nafris are white? FUCK NO, it’s called cherry picking and you’re doing the same, the average Italian from Palermo and Naples looks like a fucking shitskin and I’ve been to Italy.

 

[lastofus123]

It’s a diff model retard

Here's a model that shows Sicilians are firmly within the Southern European cluster

Darker = closer

What a low IQ argument this is pure cope that’s pure cherry picking (also a lot look like shitskins from the levant and North Africa JFLLL)

No tf they dont

What are you even seeing that I'm not? Even the other nordicist cuck agrees that the people in the screenshots I sent were white but says its cherrypicked

I could literally do the same
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Should I now claim Nafris are white? FUCK NO, it’s called cherry picking and you’re doing the same,

how is it fucking cherrypicking when its an entire video of a guy walking around town and i take screenshots of it? You can take a look if you want of the video

the average Italian from Palermo and Naples looks like a fucking shitskin

My friend @HeightPilledum is from there and he massively disagrees

and I’ve been to Italy.

How is this goddamn cherrypicking for the last time, its a video tour of Sicily and I took photos of people at different times and they all look white

Here's another video of the same town

Your just spamming one off white passing nafris who are a rarity while the entire video is like that

Also I've seen Sicilians here in America and they look nothing like Arabs

 

[97baHater]

Also I've seen Sicilians here in America and they look nothing like Arabs

They’re mixed you’ve clearly never seen a true Sicilian you’re so retarded the rest of your point are all retarded it’s crazy, I bet you’re just rage baiting tbh so I won’t entertain you further