BRUTAL TRUTH about FOID NATURE, Love & Relationships... Looks DONT Save a SIMP Chad +FAMOUS EXAMPLES

[Virgincel]

yep

the ultimate vanta black coloured pill that's tricky to swallow ngl

means you have to literally not give a fuck at all because if you unconsciously do it will eventually break out and express itself in some form and then you're fucked even as a chad because every stacy knows plenty of chads

aka you're replaceable garbage at any point in time by any female

I want off this ride

 

[Deleted member 7776]

yep

the ultimate vanta black coloured pill that's tricky to swallow ngl

means you have to literally not give a fuck at all because if you unconsciously do it will eventually break out and express itself in some form and then you're fucked even as a chad because every stacy knows plenty of chads

aka you're replaceable garbage at any point in time by any female

Even as a Chad tbh. So even if you become Chad, she'll still have at least 10 other Chads in her DMs etc

The VantaBlackpill is that every male, every single male is disposable to society, without exceptions, while femoids inherently have value (pussy privilege, literally)

 

[Usum]

You are ready to get to the next Phase
BEING A GOREAN

PS.: I've lived the Chad experience in HS and after and been with rich Stacy for 26 years now.
I thus confirm fo my own and all the men I've seen being fucked.

Don't ever simp ... even after 20 years.
Don't ever let yourself be fat, skinny, etc.
You must stay the macho somewhat abusive, attractive, with options, ASSHOLE or you are dead.
Of course, you demand her to be fit, sex, long hair, chores, etc.
Women don't care about the PAST.
It's PRESENT TIME for 95% + 5% short term if resources to come.

 

[Usum]

Good looks = more hypergamous by nature but it can be mitigated by up-bringing. And there are many loyal women out there, and I'd say 20%-30% are loyal. Though hormones may also play a role when it comes to loyalty as well (i.e., a high E woman may tend to be more hypergamous than a high T woman, or it might be the reverse). But there are multiple factors to consider when discussing women's loyalty to men, it's not all black and white.

Bro.
You don't know what you are talking about.
I have 30 years of experience and I've seen bad bad shit.
The reason why some women are loyal is because they had no opportunity they deemed worth taking risk for.
The minute she FEELS she can replace you with a better option, you are invisible/dead/the lowest on earth.
I've seen it so many times.
There are no exceptions.
Of course, a 45 yo ugly landwhale will generally be more "loyal" than a woman with options.
In addition, from experience, bad shit happens after 2nd child or after 35 where hormonal changes usually happen.
So, from 35 to 60 (menopause grieve), it's a high danger zone.
In today's society, you are basically fucked even as Chad : she will get bored of your 8x6 penis one day and will fantazise on a 9x7 a friend talked her about ("sex was awesome"), etc, etc.
Statistics showed that women's infidelity increases very significantly when a woman from her social circle cheats/divorces... do you understand where it leads ?
Her "friends" will push her to do bad shit for obvious reasons.

P.S.: Plus the good women you think are loyal have cheated in 99% cases. BP husbands are stupid and blind. Women are experts in lying and manipulation.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

I treated her like shit and she still cucked me. What do you think about that????

 

[Deleted member 2095]

The minute she FEELS she can replace you with a better option, you are invisible/dead/the lowest on earth.
I've seen it so many times.
There are no exceptions

So true WTF

 

[Deleted member 2095]

This thread is fucking gold. You HAVE to stay fit. She has to feel that you have other options. Even after years into the LTR. She has to stay jealous. You have to keep making a LOT of money. If you behave weak she will leave you for someone who she thinks can give her a better time

 

[Usum]

This thread is fucking gold. You HAVE to stay fit. She has to feel that you have other options. Even after years into the LTR. She has to stay jealous. You have to keep making a LOT of money. If you behave weak she will leave you for someone who she thinks can give her a better time

Yes.
My wife knows I have options (because she sees it in the street and I do tell her)... and she asks for sex in 90% of cases.
And this is good sex.
Not the pity/boring sex 99% of "husbands" have.

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Now I want to die nice

 

[Usum]

Ok yes being charismatic helps but even if you are not but meet the two criteria I said (looks/LMS and sexual performance) it will not affect your slaying potential or ability to secure LTRs. charisma simply isnt the rate limiting step

Did you experience a very long term relationship as a high SMV man with a high SMV woman ?

 

[Usum]

Legit. My dad never bought anything for my mom for valentine's day or her birthday LMAO, compliments from him were rare.

This is me except for compliments.
Because what you can do with compliments is saying "mixed" compliments to get her both happy and insecure (speaking of Dark Triad).
It works really fine (Hot/Cold).

 

[OOGABOOGA]

This is me except for compliments.
Because what you can do with compliments is saying "mixed" compliments to get her both happy and insecure (speaking of Dark Triad).
It works really fine (Hot/Cold).

Examples?

 

[OOGABOOGA]

And the solution to this is simply get out of the city, and keep her pumping out babies. She can’t hop to chad when she’s breastfeeding with another baby on the way. And then she’s 25 with 5+ kids? She ain’t going nowhere

 

[Usum]

Examples?

It's essentially about intonation and facial expression.
You can do it on features where she is insecure.
Repetition helps too.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

It's essentially about intonation and facial expression.

Nice example dood

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Bro.
You don't know what you are talking about.
I have 30 years of experience and I've seen bad bad shit.
The reason why some women are loyal is because they had no opportunity they deemed worth taking risk for.
The minute she FEELS she can replace you with a better option, you are invisible/dead/the lowest on earth.
I've seen it so many times.
There are no exceptions.
Of course, a 45 yo ugly landwhale will generally be more "loyal" than a woman with options.
In addition, from experience, bad shit happens after 2nd child or after 35 where hormonal changes usually happen.
So, from 35 to 60 (menopause grieve), it's a high danger zone.
In today's society, you are basically fucked even as Chad : she will get bored of your 8x6 penis one day and will fantazise on a 9x7 a friend talked her about ("sex was awesome"), etc, etc.
Statistics showed that women's infidelity increases very significantly when a woman from her social circle cheats/divorces... do you understand where it leads ?
Her "friends" will push her to do bad shit for obvious reasons.

P.S.: Plus the good women you think are loyal have cheated in 99% cases. BP husbands are stupid and blind. Women are experts in lying and manipulation.

Another important aspect is that once you show weakness you are already a weak man in her eyes and her view of you changes permanently.

I was in a relationship with a woman who I thought was serious up until the Chinese plague hit the world in February.

I was hit financially, had to sell my car to pay bills and mentally I took a bit of a hit, and within TWO DAYS she was gone. Zero fucks given. And she NEVER contacted me again to this day.

Keep in mind I was never a beta bux, but once she sees you as below her or sees you struggling, it's completely over for you. This is the case with most women.

In this case I am happy she left because it filtered her out. Imagine if I had kids or was married to that unworthy bitch. I'd be paying child support for years.

Another lesson learned. In the end this shit makes you stronger. I have many more stories like this. I was even taken to court by my first ex.

Imagine a 40 year old man who married his first love at age 20 and she decides to divorce him, the man will probably kill himself.

Experience a lot, experience early and get strong.

Stay safe guys.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Another important aspect is that once you show weakness you are already a weak man in her eyes and her view of you changes permanently.

I was in a relationship with a woman who I thought was serious up until the Chinese plague hit the world in February.

I was hit financially, had to sell my car to pay bills and mentally I took a bit of a hit, and within TWO DAYS she was gone. Zero fucks given. And she NEVER contacted me again to this day.

Keep in mind I was never a beta bux, but once she sees you as below her or sees you struggling, it's completely over for you. This is the case with most women.

In this case I am happy she left because it filtered her out. Imagine if I had kids or was married to that unworthy bitch. I'd be paying child support for years.

Another lesson learned. In the end this shit makes you stronger. I have many more stories like this. I was even taken to court by my first ex.

Imagine a 40 year old man who married his first love at age 20 and she decides to divorce him, the man will probably kill himself.

Experience a lot, experience early and get strong.

Stay safe guys.

Lol, i have another story, i met a girl 3 years ago while i was on vacation, we had a fling and then she told me we can keep in contact. I was ok with It and i was starting developing feelings and it showed, she was always testing me and she didn't put any effort, after a while i just saw how it went and i told her I got sick of her and broke up. 2 weeks later she texted me that she was in love with me and that she was sorry, she paid for her flight to visit me (10.000 km away, a whole continent) and she paid for EVERYTHING, from the Airbnb, to the food, to everything.

 

[elfmaxx]

Lol drake is such a beta male, the jew genes definitely prevailed over the black ones.

The autism is perceived as cuteness tho thanks to his looks.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Lol drake is such a beta male, the jew genes definitely prevailed over the black ones.

The autism is perceived as cuteness tho thanks to his looks.

Its because of his status, he looks like shit.

 

[Deleted member 1934]

r they laughing at his appearance?

 

[JustAFewMM]

what the fuck is this world tbh

 

[JustAFewMM]

what the fuck is this world tbh

however, quality thread

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Lol, i have another story, i met a girl 3 years ago while i was on vacation, we had a fling and then she told me we can keep in contact. I was ok with It and i was starting developing feelings and it showed, she was always testing me and she didn't put any effort, after a while i just saw how it went and i told her I got sick of her and broke up. 2 weeks later she texted me that she was in love with me and that she was sorry, she paid for her flight to visit me (10.000 km away, a whole continent) and she paid for EVERYTHING, from the Airbnb, to the food, to everything.

Damn might try this tbh sounds a bit like my situation except we didn’t fuck nor meet

 

[DrunkenSailor]

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[OverForMe]

all these woman are ugly and a waste of time especcialy models and hoes

 

[OverForMe]

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r they laughing at his appearance?

they are laughing at his long midface and feminine look

 

[CsCurry]

It’s well known by most people that you need to mog your foid into the ground and constantly show that you have other options to keep her.

the best way to keep your girlfriend is to study/get lunch/chill with another girl in public and make sure that she sees it.

 

[eduardkoopman]

PS.: I've lived the Chad experience in HS and after and been with rich Stacy for 26 years now.
Women don't care about the PAST.
It's PRESENT TIME for 95% + 5% short term if resources to come.

Mirrin every dude, that manages a woman to BetaBuxx for him. Reverse BetaBuxxing is rare as shit. And without a big gap in looks attractiveness (aka dude much hotter then her) it's even less rare.

Can attest from personal experience.
Women have near ZERO memory; of the past build ups. I hate that aspect in women. And Like that most men have that aspect much more.
Because of that, it's always all about the now, or the short future.
They have a good memory of past things you did "wrong". But zero memory and loyalty of past thngs you did "well" and she owes you.

It works really fine (Hot/Cold).

I can confrim even from reading a scientific study.
The tested, I don't recall how.
Which man are women mostly attracted to:
1. guy whom she knows from is attracted to her (certain about his interest)
2. guy whom she knows from has zero interest in her (certain about his disinterest)
3. Guy whom she she doesn't know if he is attracted/interested in here (uncertain)

Result. Dude number 3, women where most attracted to. (they controlled for looks, and other aspects as much as possible).
So, uncertainity, hot/cold, yes/no, etc.. Works best, I assume.

I was hit financially, had to sell my car to pay bills and mentally I took a bit of a hit, and within TWO DAYS she was gone. Zero fucks given. And she NEVER contacted me again to this day.

Keep in mind I was never a beta bux, but once she sees you as below her or sees you struggling, it's completely over for you. This is the case with most women.

similar-ish experience. I BetaBuxxed in a lite version in my last LTR. Hit difficult times with finances a bit in a year due to bad investment results. bad is in, I had to cut spending on enjoyments alot down and limit it. She left like 1 year later orso.
I doing well-ish, she could see from a new home pic she saw of me. She messaged again, to ask for address for whatever I don't recall reasons, because I bet she wanted to check it out what the house like and where exactly.
Fuck being a backplan option, they keep around.
Women always like to keep a bunch of options on the backburner, for when their current dude fucks up or hits on lesser times.


Long term Relationship management.
You better be savage as fuck.
Because it's pretty brutal.
I only had 1 LTR, and I did imo decently for a 1st time try. But the next time around, I need to be savage 10x.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Mirrin every dude, that manages a woman to BetaBuxx for him. Reverse BetaBuxxing is rare as shit. And without a big gap in looks attractiveness (aka dude much hotter then her) it's even less rare.

Can attest from personal experience.
Women have near ZERO memory; of the past build ups. I hate that aspect in women. And Like that most men have that aspect much more.
Because of that, it's always all about the now, or the short future.
They have a good memory of past things you did "wrong". But zero memory and loyalty of past thngs you did "well" and she owes you.

I can confrim even from reading a scientific study.
The tested, I don't recall how.
Which man are women mostly attracted to:
1. guy whom she knows from is attracted to her (certain about his interest)
2. guy whom she knows from has zero interest in her (certain about his disinterest)
3. Guy whom she she doesn't know if he is attracted/interested in here (uncertain)

Result. Dude number 3, women where most attracted to. (they controlled for looks, and other aspects as much as possible).
So, uncertainity, hot/cold, yes/no, etc.. Works best, I assume.


similar-ish experience. I BetaBuxxed in a lite version in my last LTR. Hit difficult times with finances a bit in a year due to bad investment results. bad is in, I had to cut spending on enjoyments alot down and limit it. She left like 1 year later orso.
I doing well-ish, she could see from a new home pic she saw of me. She messaged again, to ask for address for whatever I don't recall reasons, because I bet she wanted to check it out what the house like and where exactly.
Fuck being a backplan option, they keep around.
Women always like to keep a bunch of options on the backburner, for when their current dude fucks up or hits on lesser times.


Long term Relationship management.
You better be savage as fuck.
Because it's pretty brutal.
I only had 1 LTR, and I did imo decently for a 1st time try. But the next time around, I need to be savage 10x.

damn, brutally ignoring some girl who had the balls to respond to my text 02:25 at midnight

 

[eduardkoopman]

damn, brutally ignoring some girl who had the balls to respond to my text 02:25 at midnight

I also had this 1 chick once, I went on like 2 dates with her. She called or messaged back at the oddest times. Disrespectful she was to much imo. Luckily it didn't wake me up. It never went anywhere with her, her interest was low level. I was imo personality and smooth maxxed as hell on the dates. I was the smoothest I ever been on such dates., But my looks level was to low from the get go, so she was low inetersted and it stayed like that. That was a brutal personality or game pill for me at the time. Because I then still beleived in gamae alot. And I couldn't beleive why she wasn't more interested or it didn't go further. because I was my smoothest ever.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I also had this 1 chick once, I went on like 2 dates with her. She called or messaged back at the oddest times. Disrespectful she was to much imo. Luckily it didn't wake me up.

Yes, she is somewhat down to meetup but lives 3 hours away from me near Zwolle, i'm not gonna take a train to meet her nor will i meet halfway so when my Yubo is working again i'll tell her to come to me and the beach tbh.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes, she is somewhat down to meetup but lives 3 hours away from me near Zwolle, i'm not gonna take a train to meet her nor will i meet halfway so when my Yubo is working again i'll tell her to come to me and the beach tbh.

Mirin if you manage to get a girl to take a 3 hour train ride to meet you for the first time.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Mirin if you manage to get a girl to take a 3 hour train ride to meet you for the first time.

indeed, but i'm not paying 60euro for some retour ticket. But she is 100% my type, nichemaxxed metal/goth JB would coom/10

 

[eduardkoopman]

indeed, but i'm not paying 60euro for some retour ticket. But she is 100% my type, nichemaxxed metal/goth JB would coom/10

Cool. She sounds mentally unstabble, which is great and bad at the same time.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Cool. She sounds mentally unstabble, which is great and bad at the same time.

Yes, all goths etc have 100% mental issues but hey, she can't pussy out once she's here for the papabakpenis
And i can brag to my mates my first time was with a girl who travelled 3h to meet me LMAO

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes, all goths etc have 100% mental issues but hey, she can't pussy out once she's here for the papabakpenis
And i can brag to my mates my first time was with a girl who travelled 3h to meet me LMAO

mental issues = great for getting more quick sex. Bad for anything LTR-ish
For my first time sex, virginity loss. I travelled by bus for 3 hours. So you would mogg me in reverse. I was happy to have don it though, because I need to lose that virginity due to being in my 20's.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

For my first time sex, virginity loss. I travelled by bus for 3 hours. So you would mogg me in reverse. I was happy to have don it though, because I need to lose that virginity due to being in my 20's.

Yeah that's pretty understandable, eh i'm 16 and like 90% of all my male classmates are virgins jfl.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah that's pretty understandable, eh i'm 16 and like 90% of all my male classmates are virgins jfl.

Yeah @ 16 it's different. I didn't feel hurry then to get it out of the way either.
But in 20's, it NEEDED to happen. Because being virgin in 20's; really gets to one psychology to be virgin. It did for me at least

 

[Merlix]

I have an easy time with short term attraction and getting the initial interest but fail miserably at keeping it up in even the midterm.

Probably due to the hot/cold management issue. I show too much loyalty and devotion to the relationship thinking that it would be reciprocated so long as I can fuck well and provide good conversation and experiences (via spending power). Big mistake. All about keeping her guessing. Never say you love her first. Never say she's the one. Keep her wondering when you will leave her unless she stays servile.

The ultimate blackpill conclusion with this ideal strategy is that it only works if you're attractive at the least and optimally very attractive. Otherwise she will leave you anyways.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I have an easy time with short term attraction and getting the initial interest but fail miserably at keeping it up in even the midterm.

Probably due to the hot/cold management issue. I show too much loyalty and care thinking that it would be reciprocated so long as I can fuck well and provide good conversation. Big mistake. All about keeping her guessing. Never say you love her first. Never say she's the one. Keep her wondering when you will leave her unless she stays servile.

Only had that once but yeah.

Yeah @ 16 it's different. I didn't feel hurry then to get it out of the way either.
But in 20's, it NEEDED to happen. Because being virgin in 20's; really gets to one psychology to be virgin. It did for me at least

Very true man!

 

[eduardkoopman]

The ultimate blackpill conclusion with this ideal strategy is that it only works if you're attractive at the least and optimally very attractive. Otherwise she will leave you anyways.

Mostly likely, it never even starts then. But instant rejection.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I have an easy time with short term attraction and getting the initial interest but fail miserably at keeping it up in even the midterm.

Probably due to the hot/cold management issue. I show too much loyalty and devotion to the relationship thinking that it would be reciprocated so long as I can fuck well and provide good conversation and experiences (via spending power). Big mistake. All about keeping her guessing. Never say you love her first. Never say she's the one. Keep her wondering when you will leave her unless she stays servile.

The ultimate blackpill conclusion with this ideal strategy is that it only works if you're attractive at the least and optimally very attractive. Otherwise she will leave you anyways.

Should you be the first to ask for meeting up tho tbh.?

 

[Merlix]

Mostly likely, it never even starts then. But instant rejection.

I'm not an attractive guy but I have money which let's me get the hook. Betabuxxing is doomed to fail unless you have a shit ton of money to keep her interested in that.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I'm not an attractive guy but I have money which let's me get the hook. Betabuxxing is doomed to fail unless you have a shit ton of money to keep her interested in that.

Oh, sorry. I assumed the first hook they had with you was the way you look.
The money hook is pretty brutal. I recall Tom Leykis had some good advice on how to get laid by using the money hook. But not for LTR obviously. His advice was basically. Make her beleive she might have a chance to get you and life the rich lifestyle, so she might aim/try to use "freebee" sex to try to real you into commitment. And then after that, mopve on to the next or stretch it out for a few times.

I can only understand betaBuxxing, when she is plenty more attractive then the ma. You know what you are paying for then.
BetaBuxxing for a woman that is looksmatch, is odd to me.

 

[Merlix]

Oh, sorry. I assumed the first hook they had with you was the way you look.
The money hook is pretty brutal. I recall Tom Leykis had some good advice on how to get laid by using the money hook. But not for LTR obviously. His advice was basically. Make her beleive she might have a chance to get you and life the rich lifestyle, so she might aim/try to use "freebee" sex to try to real you into commitment. And then after that, mopve on to the next or stretch it out for a few times.

I can only understand betaBuxxing, when she is plenty more attractive then the ma. You know what you are paying for then.
BetaBuxxing for a woman that is looksmatch, is odd to me.

I only betabuxx for girls above my level but my level is below average so I'm scoring just above average girls using this method. It doesn't cost much to get the first few lays using the strategy you just described but once she requires significant maintenance to keep around then the strategy fails completely despite any interpersonal development because I can't do the hot/cold thing since the entire reason she's with me is to score some luxury lifestyle.

And if I don't betabuxx I get nothing at all since I rather be alone than with an average or below average foid. The only solution is to either plow a ton of money into a loveless relationship which is precarious at all times and emotionally unsatisfying (since you know she only wants you for your money) or plow a ton of money into looks enhancing surgeries and hope for the best. I'm doing the latter. Then I can MAYBE play the hot/cold game jfl.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I only betabuxx for girls above my level but my level is below average so I'm scoring just above average girls using this method. It doesn't cost much to get the first few lays using the strategy you just described but once she requires significant maintenance to keep around the strategy fails completely despite any interpersonal development because I can't do the hot/cold thing since the entire reason she's with me is to score some luxury lifestyle.

The qeustion is. Is this enough?, or what you want?: " It doesn't cost much to get the first few lays using the strategy you just described"

If not. And you want LTR. Then you might be fucked. as in, need to pay up.
Then it becomes a question of, how much willing to pay.
And if go that route, I would not shy away from shopping worldwide. We do it for our goods that we buy, and if it's a money thing. Then I would go world-wide shopping maxxing. To get the best bang for the buxxs.

 

[far336]

Should you be the first to ask for meeting up tho tbh.?

Yes. If she gives you an excuse to not meet up, don't initiate texts with her for a week. Try again 1 week later. If she gives an excuse again, increase it by increments of 1 week, so ask her 2 weeks after, then 3 weeks, and so on. Reset it to 1 week again when you two actually meet up.

You don't want to ask too frequently, like every day, because it comes off as desperate and desperation kills attraction

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Yes. If she declines, don't initiate texts with her for a week. Try again 1 week later. If she declines again, increase it by increments of 1 week, so ask her 2 weeks after, then 3 weeks, and so on. Reset it once you two actually meet up.

Thanks man! Biggest problem is basically, she lives 3h away from me JFL and i'm not paying 60eu to go to her tbh

 

[Merlix]

The qeustion is. Is this enough?, or what you want?: " It doesn't cost much to get the first few lays using the strategy you just described"

If not. And you want LTR. Then you might be fucked. as in, need to pay up.
Then it becomes a question of, how much willing to pay.
And if go that route, I would not shy away from shopping worldwide. We do it for our goods that we buy, and if it's a money thing. Then I would go world-wide maxxing. To get the best bang for the buxxs.

I edited my post to answer your question. And yes I'm shopping around worldwide but its difficult everywhere nowadays for quality women because tinder and Instagram allows women to know their worth regardless of where they are. And often times it requires learning the local language as well which is a huge barrier to entry.

 

[far336]

Thanks man! Biggest problem is basically, she lives 3h away from me JFL and i'm not paying 60eu to go to her tbh

Good attitude! A good rule of thumb is to not meet her more than half way, which in your case, is no more than 1.5 hours. So if you decide to meet 2 hours away from you and 1 hour away from her, that's no good because you're putting in more effort than her. This doesn't just apply to meeting up, it's for all aspects in your relationship. If she texts you back 1 hour later, text her back 1 hour(s) later or more. You pay for your own coffee and she pays for hers. Don't invest more than she does in the relationship, otherwise, it will kill her attraction towards you.