BRUTAL TRUTH about FOID NATURE, Love & Relationships... Looks DONT Save a SIMP Chad +FAMOUS EXAMPLES

[oatmeal]

Brutal but anyways you have to admit lookism is very legit

tbh im on there and still argue with them on lookism a lot. thing is they usually disagree with the idea of what makes someone attractive. they don't really understand much about proper development either.

its still interesting to see what they think about tho.

 

[reptiles]

tbh im on there and still argue with them on lookism a lot. thing is they usually disagree with the idea of what makes someone attractive. they don't really understand much about proper development either.

its still interesting to see what they think about tho.

I got kicked sad shit back then i didn't even know what made a good looking face but if these people wanna know they just need to stare papers right in the eyes.

This is it they always will say though mu-h your misinterpreting what there saying or another stupid argument i have heard them say is that most of these studies employ surveys issue 1 not all of these do issue 2 you have field experts saying lookism is very real like you know your in the wrong when field experts disagree with you

 

[Soalian]

NO POLITICAL VIEW FOR YOUR FACE

 

[some1h0peless]

NO POLITICAL VIEW FOR YOUR FACE

tiege hanley for my face

 

[FacialAesthetics]

Forever legendary. So true. So fucking true.

 

[bl0odyme5s]

NT, High T, low Inhib, Dark Triad, Narcy manipulative and selfish.

is this learnable tho? or are you born with it?

 

[Deleted member 795]

I think that if they want to cheat, they do that.

Lol, do you even know how many women cheat cause "their boyfriend is so cold?", Maybe then they are under their boyfriends but still their men are cuck.

Don't be a simp, but there is no need to play a game for ever

 

[sergeant blackpill]

This thread reminds me of my first love in kindergarten, but i was the one acting like this and not her. Confessed to a girl and she said she felt the same and then kissed me, i remember vividly how my level of interest instantly went from 100 to 0 as soon as we kissed.

 

[randomuser2407]

What experience do you have with women OP? Are you just repeating what you read online like a parrot? Because that's what it looks like.

 

[pizza]

it's very simple, you must objectify the fucking woman, this is how it works, treat her like a cum deposit, you should fuck her and not love her, come on her and then go home and go back to your routine and fuck up

 

[getra]

Can confirm this is very true

 

[Deleted member 795]

This thread reminds me of my first love in kindergarten, but i was the one acting like this and not her. Confessed to a girl and she said she felt the same and then kissed me, i remember vividly how my level of interest instantly went from 100 to 0 as soon as we kissed.

But why

 

[sergeant blackpill]

But why

No idea. Never heard of anyone with a similar experience, but i guess romantic feelings are fickle.

 

[Deleted member 9274]

But why

Its because people value the impossible and when you meet the critirea and actually experience what u want. The value will drop

 

[Deleted member 795]

Its because people value the impossible and when you meet the critirea and actually experience what u want. The value will drop

Probably he valued a below average girl as impossible (fair enough), and when he got the kiss he realized that the girl wasn't that high thing

 

[everythingisacope]

Long Thread:
TLDR=
If you give too much attention, give her power in relationship, and be Simp, it’s over even if you’re CHAD.
You’re getting CUCKED, cope with being a PSL 9 God.

Sad how a girl you once really liked, treated decently, gave some attention to... but who never really reciprocated back... starts liking you and chasing you as SOON as you start ignoring her and acting like a dismissive asshole to her(because you’re fed up/moved on), insinuating/pretending you have other girls...
(Yaayyy now she likes you!! True love!)

Or how a girl you completely ignored, whether you didn’t like her, or gamed and played hard to get fucking LOVES YOU, and loves it, and is chasing you... ALL THE WAY until you show her the tinniest tiniest little itty bit of attention because you start to genuinely like her... and she IMMEDIATELY LOSES INTEREST AND ATTRACTION IN A SNAP...

Whether Chad or not, you always need to upkeep this image and facade of aloof high value, if you wanna keep her interest or LTR, like you have many options and can actually give a fuck about her.

You need to not only look like, but act like a High T Slayer Chad.
Looking like Chad isn’t enough, you need to fully embody it or else you get cucked.
NT, High T, low Inhib, Dark Triad, Narcy manipulative and selfish.
They need to feel your worth is higher than theirs.
She wants to be HURT and made to feel lesser than you, ESPECIALLY BY GOOD LOOKING CHAD.
(If Ugly, 0% chance already. Water wet)

“True Love”, intimate and lovey dovey loyal bullshit relationships, one where you can build a family, are really really rare and fleeting, a thing of the past and mostly cope.
And it’s only getting worse in this Tinder/IG/TikTok Feminist age.
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Most Girls(foids) today, especially young and attractive, just want Alpha Badboy Fuck buddies to give them drama, “adventure”, an emotional roller coaster, and consistent “good dick” on the regular, until they get bored and want a new Chad dick to ride a month later as she tries to “find herself”.
That’s her idea of a “boyfriend” and “relationship”.
Until ofc she’s a used up old hag Roastie cum bucket at 35 ready to “settle down” after +300 dicks.

She rarely wants a partner, an equal, someone to love, share and build with.
She wants a means to an end, an exchange for profit, someone better than her to take advantage of, be taken advantage of, or get off to while her looksmatch boyfriend pays all her bills.

Females can almost NEVER love you the way you a man can love her, you are not a person, you are a replaceable disposable object.
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Peep Divorced after 72 days.

All relationships I see that are longer than a month, like 1 year, are insecure foids, with a boyfriend who really doesn't pay much mind or attention to her, the girl seems to always be the one chasing. Anything deeper or mutually loving, where a guy can show “love”/appreciation is extremely rare and usually short lived.
Ofc at least looks matched otherwise the bitch definitely is hypergamous.

Anything that gives any attention to a foid nowadays is “simping” in the eyes of a foid, you’re low value and weak.
You can thank soy simps for inflating whores egos so much that a simple compliment or starting a conversation is considered beyond pathetic, weak, and worthy of you getting led on and used, rejected or broken up with, especially if you’re not a fucking model.


If I was with a girl I genuinely loved, and she loved me, ofc I wouldn’t be a simp, but I would want to show my love and appreciation, that I care, seeing her more than a sextoy, and want to be confortable knowing I can be myself and love her....
A relationship...

But NOPE, that’s Beta Cuck simp behavior and fantasy, a fantasy you want because you never experienced it.

Remember Chad is a huge slayer, with hundreds of options a click away on tinder, thousand of likes and hundreds of comments of IG, “”, lost his virginity in middle school, and fucked at least... AT LEAST +20-30 girls by the end of high school, all high tier Stacies and already experienced “Teen Love”, that incel fantasy you have, and it ended with him fucking the next then next and then the next whore. And it’s nothing special.

Chad gets bored, he has options, he knows his worth, he’s young, testosterone pumping, he’s having “fun” much like Whore Stacy.
Chad realizes and knows whores nature better than all of you, that’s why he fucking pumps and dumps. He has first hand experience.

Chads slay, normies get cucked, and incels fantasize about “Love”.

Confident, arrogant, narcy, dominant, low Inhibition, doesn’t give a single Fuck about a whore.
What bitches pussies get wet for.
It comes naturally to him.

His looks aren’t the only thing bitches subconsciously crave, it’s his “personality”, him being his fucking self.

“Just yourself.”

But remember when you are no longer congruent with your true (Chad) self...(image)

She’s gone.



Prime Example:
Alpha Mulatto Badboy
Chris Brown

From
“Love of my life” to

“Never met anyone really worth my time.”

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just months after beating
They’re seen on Romantic Gettaway out of country to evade Ban from each other
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Still a couple years later
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Couple months later crying with Oprah because he has a girlfriend, says she Doesn’t care about past,
“He’s the Love of my life”
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Rihanna at court supporting and blowing kisses at Chris Breezy all this time
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At Grammys again next year
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BUT...
he ends up SIMPING, crying over what he did, and giving her too much attention and praise, too possessive and jealous like a BITCH... thinking she’s gonna leave..
she leaves.

So Chris Brown throughout the years has been SIMPING HARD ASF EVERSINCE

BEGGING FOR FORGIVENESS,
“MY QUEEN!!! ”

Lurking in her IG comments SIMPING
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GIVING NON-STOP OBSESSIVE NEEDY ATTENTION, even his fans noticed
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And guess what...

NOT A SINGLE RESPONSE OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT...

So how about another shot Chris?(no pun intended )

He creates a whole documentary explaining his side of beating Rihanna (like that’s why she finally left lol) BEGGING FOR FORGIVENESS AND UNDERSTANDING, tryna get her attention...
LOLOLOL
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Did it work???

She never acknowledged it existed, mentioned it or him again.

She doesn’t even mention him here lol
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Fucking lol, the foid has won the war against “Chad”, he gave her his full attention and fully submitted, confirming she is the “higher value” one, and is now satisfied.

She Leaves for Good.
Moves on happily viewing him as sad and pathetic beta bitch.

She now has the power.

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Simp.


But wasn’t she loyal, waiting patiently by his side the entire time he was abusive and beating her?
Fucking Lol.




Not even gonna mention how FULL BLOWN NICEGUY SIMP DRAKE never had a chance...

OKAY HERE U GO

2016
Rihanna receiving MJ Vanguard Award...
Drake handing her the award giving her a speech.

“she’s someone I been in love with since I was 22 years old...”
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And.... CURVED!!!
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Broke up extremely soon after, after she had already USED Drake for 2 hit songs and a tour to promote her new album After +3 years, one single being “Work” which reached +1billion views since he was and still is the biggest rapper and artist at the time.
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Rihanna on Drakes Simping
“Waiting for that speech was the most uncomfortable part”
“I don’t like too many compliments
“We aren’t friends anymore, but we aren’t enemies”
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Couple months later with Saudi Billionaire Buisness man who pumped and dumped supermodels, and doesn’t really know shit or care about “Rihanna”, being the rich middle eastern slayer he is.
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The relationship Lasted 3 years.
They broke up recently because he basically said stop being a whore(for modeling, and his rich Muslim family didn’t approve lol.



“Chads slay, Normies get cucked, and incels fantasize about
Love.”

thread with the highest ammount of reacts ngl

 

[Deleted member 5185]

This is a great thread, and a topic that is way over looked, especially in the blackpill-community.

With that being said, it needs to be nuanced a bit.

The universal rule, so to speak, is to never cuck yourself - I fully agree with that statement. Once you cuck yourself, it is OVER, no matter what.

However, at what point does someone cuck himself? The OP gives the impression that saying "I love you" or showing a girl love in an LTR equals cucking yourself. That is definitely not the case. The key point, which OP is onto, is that the man must always be seen as higher value than the woman. This can be done through looks, social status, percieved social status (fake it til you make it / ""personality"", dark triad traits etc), but it can also be undone if you fully cuck yourself.

As an example, a man who is in a committed relationship where his girlfriend KNOWS he could do way better than her, while she cannot do better than him, can behave almost in any way he wants within the realms of sanity and not worry a bit. Only if he simps hardcore, constantly proving that her value judgement is wrong, and that she is in fact over him because he is a cuck simp, will there be problems.

So the less you've got going for you in terms of looks, status and other SMV indicators, the more anti-cuck/manipulative behavior will be necessary - at which point I'd probably just lower my standards or improve looks/status, but hopefully someone in this position would already be maxing out this stuff.

Another great point made in the OP is about girls wanting roller coasters and so on - I don't think its so extreme as OP says it is - girls genuinely wants relationships with high tier Chads, preferably for life - as long as its the best Chad she can get. However, girls definitely should be manipulated in a way to make them insecure about where they stand in the relationship. Utilizing their huge emotion swings to make their emotional ties to you as the boyfriend / fwb will make the sex better, the relationship better - everything will be better. The trick is to be a calculating psychopath about it, using it as a periodized program to get what you want from it - not actually be yelling and screaming and being crazy emotional yourself. Because at that point, you can't control it. Its too close to the sun.

So for instance, at the start of the relationship/fwb situation, you could have a weekend where everything is "perfect" - spend lots of time together, fuck a lot, just hang around making out, go to restaurants all that shit.

Then all of a sudden you're cold/stand off-ish over text, not picking up the phone, making her worry about you being with other girls. Preferably you're open about not wanting a relationship, while simultaniously showing her you'd be the most awesome boyfriend ever - IF SHE COULD JUST LAND YOU.

Even if you do commit to a relationship down the line, making her fight for every inch while at the same time having a great time with her will make an extremely solid foundation. The same principles can be used literally into eternity through behavioral manipulation to make the relationship and sex more exciting for the both of you.

 

[Deleted member 795]

All true

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

This is a great thread, and a topic that is way over looked, especially in the blackpill-community.

With that being said, it needs to be nuanced a bit.

The universal rule, so to speak, is to never cuck yourself - I fully agree with that statement. Once you cuck yourself, it is OVER, no matter what.

However, at what point does someone cuck himself? The OP gives the impression that saying "I love you" or showing a girl love in an LTR equals cucking yourself. That is definitely not the case. The key point, which OP is onto, is that the man must always be seen as higher value than the woman. This can be done through looks, social status, percieved social status (fake it til you make it / ""personality"", dark triad traits etc), but it can also be undone if you fully cuck yourself.

As an example, a man who is in a committed relationship where his girlfriend KNOWS he could do way better than her, while she cannot do better than him, can behave almost in any way he wants within the realms of sanity and not worry a bit. Only if he simps hardcore, constantly proving that her value judgement is wrong, and that she is in fact over him because he is a cuck simp, will there be problems.

So the less you've got going for you in terms of looks, status and other SMV indicators, the more anti-cuck/manipulative behavior will be necessary - at which point I'd probably just lower my standards or improve looks/status, but hopefully someone in this position would already be maxing out this stuff.

Another great point made in the OP is about girls wanting roller coasters and so on - I don't think its so extreme as OP says it is - girls genuinely wants relationships with high tier Chads, preferably for life - as long as its the best Chad she can get. However, girls definitely should be manipulated in a way to make them insecure about where they stand in the relationship. Utilizing their huge emotion swings to make their emotional ties to you as the boyfriend / fwb will make the sex better, the relationship better - everything will be better. The trick is to be a calculating psychopath about it, using it as a periodized program to get what you want from it - not actually be yelling and screaming and being crazy emotional yourself. Because at that point, you can't control it. Its too close to the sun.

So for instance, at the start of the relationship/fwb situation, you could have a weekend where everything is "perfect" - spend lots of time together, fuck a lot, just hang around making out, go to restaurants all that shit.

Then all of a sudden you're cold/stand off-ish over text, not picking up the phone, making her worry about you being with other girls. Preferably you're open about not wanting a relationship, while simultaniously showing her you'd be the most awesome boyfriend ever - IF SHE COULD JUST LAND YOU.

Even if you do commit to a relationship down the line, making her fight for every inch while at the same time having a great time with her will make an extremely solid foundation. The same principles can be used literally into eternity through behavioral manipulation to make the relationship and sex more exciting for the both of you.

For sure, definitely “should be” more nuanced, but I made the thread with intent to catch attention and be understood by the average retard here who thinks looks are the end all be all. To trigger new direction and expansion of thought rather than being so limited. Relationships, especially romantic/sexual relationships can’t be simplified to just looks, that’s easy, they are extremely nuanced and complex.

No one should be taking anything dogmatically, even my thread.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

For sure, definitely “should be” more nuanced, but I made the thread with intent to catch attention and be understood by the average retard here who thinks looks are the end all be all. To trigger new direction and expansion of thought rather than being so limited. Relationships, especially romantic/sexual relationships can’t be simplified to just looks, that’s easy, they are extremely nuanced and complex.

No one should be taking anything dogmatically, even my thread.

I realize I might come across as being a bit critical of you / the thread in my post - that wasn't my intention. First of all you're making a statement, the thread is about the importance of this aspect, not "the whole picture". Second of all, even attempting to make a nuanced original post would result in having to paint the whole picture, which would be 50 pages long.

I went from bluepilled, to blackpilled, to everything matters. The blackpill motivated me to looksmax, and gave me entrance into the world of women / relationships. Only then did I realize exactly how many other factors there is to consider. What you discuss in the OP is criminally underrated on these boards.

 

[gaymidget]

This is a great thread, and a topic that is way over looked, especially in the blackpill-community.

With that being said, it needs to be nuanced a bit.

The universal rule, so to speak, is to never cuck yourself - I fully agree with that statement. Once you cuck yourself, it is OVER, no matter what.

However, at what point does someone cuck himself? The OP gives the impression that saying "I love you" or showing a girl love in an LTR equals cucking yourself. That is definitely not the case. The key point, which OP is onto, is that the man must always be seen as higher value than the woman. This can be done through looks, social status, percieved social status (fake it til you make it / ""personality"", dark triad traits etc), but it can also be undone if you fully cuck yourself.

As an example, a man who is in a committed relationship where his girlfriend KNOWS he could do way better than her, while she cannot do better than him, can behave almost in any way he wants within the realms of sanity and not worry a bit. Only if he simps hardcore, constantly proving that her value judgement is wrong, and that she is in fact over him because he is a cuck simp, will there be problems.

So the less you've got going for you in terms of looks, status and other SMV indicators, the more anti-cuck/manipulative behavior will be necessary - at which point I'd probably just lower my standards or improve looks/status, but hopefully someone in this position would already be maxing out this stuff.

Another great point made in the OP is about girls wanting roller coasters and so on - I don't think its so extreme as OP says it is - girls genuinely wants relationships with high tier Chads, preferably for life - as long as its the best Chad she can get. However, girls definitely should be manipulated in a way to make them insecure about where they stand in the relationship. Utilizing their huge emotion swings to make their emotional ties to you as the boyfriend / fwb will make the sex better, the relationship better - everything will be better. The trick is to be a calculating psychopath about it, using it as a periodized program to get what you want from it - not actually be yelling and screaming and being crazy emotional yourself. Because at that point, you can't control it. Its too close to the sun.

So for instance, at the start of the relationship/fwb situation, you could have a weekend where everything is "perfect" - spend lots of time together, fuck a lot, just hang around making out, go to restaurants all that shit.

Then all of a sudden you're cold/stand off-ish over text, not picking up the phone, making her worry about you being with other girls. Preferably you're open about not wanting a relationship, while simultaniously showing her you'd be the most awesome boyfriend ever - IF SHE COULD JUST LAND YOU.

Even if you do commit to a relationship down the line, making her fight for every inch while at the same time having a great time with her will make an extremely solid foundation. The same principles can be used literally into eternity through behavioral manipulation to make the relationship and sex more exciting for the both of you.

Very nice post. I have a quick story which can help understanding this. One of my close friends is a rather good looking guy. He gets attention but he has 0 confidence. Its maybe because of lack of a father or other reasons but this lack of confidence caused him being a virgin until I think 19. He wasted almost every chance with girls he had because of his behavior. Now he met this girl and they are happily together because he changed his behaviors more into the dark triad realm. Although he got no other options, his gf thinks he has. So he has a huge leverage above her and she basically admitted that she wouldn't even break up If he had cheated on her. The truth is, that at least in the first months of their relationship, he didnt have any chances to get another girl on her level but he acted like it and the girl believed it. Giving her the feeling that you are above her makes her believe it, even if it isnt the case.

 

[gaymidget]

I realize I might come across as being a bit critical of you / the thread in my post - that wasn't my intention. First of all you're making a statement, the thread is about the importance of this aspect, not "the whole picture". Second of all, even attempting to make a nuanced original post would result in having to paint the whole picture, which would be 50 pages long.

I went from bluepilled, to blackpilled, to everything matters. The blackpill motivated me to looksmax, and gave me entrance into the world of women / relationships. Only then did I realize exactly how many other factors there is to consider. What you discuss in the OP is criminally underrated on these boards.

I think the audience on incel/looksmax forums are mostly young guys who dont have much experience or ability to make nuanced opinions.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

No idea. Never heard of anyone with a similar experience, but i guess romantic feelings are fickle.

I can answer if you want.

When someone sees a beautiful woman, they will eventually start to project the perfection of her appearance to other attributes of her which you are not yet familiar with, like a scientist projects his model of gravity onto unexplored territory. Stendhal called this the crystillization process in his book "On Love". This is how oneitises are created: by a prediction created on the bases of past data. This process necessarily follows from the way our mind works. To put it in looksmax terms, oneitises are an extreme version of the halo effect.

The problem is this perfection of hers has only been assumed and not confirmed, and so, getting closer to her, her accepting you, and you kissing her, destroyed your assumption of her perfection, and made all of your fantasies come crashing down in an instant. You thought: "if this assumption was a delusion, is it possible that all my assumptions were just delusions, and that I was working off too little evidence to justify my assumptions?" So then you lost interest and became indifferent.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

the less you've got going for you in terms of looks, status and other SMV indicators, the more anti-cuck/manipulative behavior will be necessary

This should be written at the top of the forum

 

[Deleted member 12611]

I can answer if you want.

When someone sees a beautiful woman, they will eventually start to project the perfection of her appearance to other attributes of her which you are not yet familiar with, like a scientist projects his model of gravity onto unexplored territory. Stendhal called this the crystillization process in his book "On Love". This is how oneitises are created: by a prediction created on the bases of past data. This process necessarily follows from the way our mind works. To put it in looksmax terms, oneitises are an extreme version of the halo effect.

The problem is this perfection of hers has only been assumed and not confirmed, and so, getting closer to her, her accepting you, and you kissing her, destroyed your assumption of her perfection, and made all of your fantasies come crashing down in an instant. You thought: "if this assumption was a delusion, is it possible that all my assumptions were just delusions, and that I was working off too little evidence to justify my assumptions?" So then you lost interest and became indifferent.

This is also why femdom exists btw. It's a sex oneitis. I'll make a thread later explaining different fetishes.

 

[gaymidget]

This is also why femdom exists btw. It's a sex oneitis. I'll make a thread later explaining different fetishes.

Pls do, your thoughts seems to be very original.

 

[Soalian]

This should be written at the top of the forum

I guess naturally manipulative people would have risen to the top of Status/Money/Power in the first place though.

 

[Soalian]

This is also why femdom exists btw. It's a sex oneitis. I'll make a thread later explaining different fetishes.

Oh yes, and each point will have to be clearly laid out to me with relevant pictures, to really be informative.

 

[Deleted member 5893]

incredible thread

 

[randomuser2407]

The thing is that it's not very difficult to not be a simp, you don't have to be a dominant alpha, you just have to not give her more of your time and money that she gives you, you just have to put her on equal footing instead of the pedestal. Women disrespect men who worship them because they want to be treated as an equal but they will never say that to men, men should already know this from instinct. Weak men let women walk all over them because they see themselves as weaker, and women can never respect such men.

After reading the red pill and PUA sites, we might think that it is very difficult to not be a simp, but you just need to have some self respect and some self worth, you just have to realize that you don't depend on women to survive, and that without her, you'll be just fine. It's all a matter of mindset but not something that is very difficult to develop.

You are right though, a Chad with low self confidence will not be nearly as attractive as a Chad with high self confidence, and women will take advantage of men who have low self confidence, and it's the same the other way too, confident men take advantage of women who have low self confidence by getting them to do whatever he wants while giving little to nothing in return.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

The thing is that it's not very difficult to not be a simp, you don't have to be a dominant alpha, you just have to not give her more of your time and money that she gives you, you just have to put her on equal footing instead of the pedestal. Women disrespect men who worship them because they want to be treated as an equal but they will never say that to men, men should already know this from instinct. Weak men let women walk all over them because they see themselves as weaker, and women can never respect such men.

After reading the red pill and PUA sites, we might think that it is very difficult to not be a simp, but you just need to have some self respect and some self worth, you just have to realize that you don't depend on women to survive, and that without her, you'll be just fine. It's all a matter of mindset but not something that is very difficult to develop.

You are right though, a Chad with low self confidence will not be nearly as attractive as a Chad with high self confidence, and women will take advantage of men who have low self confidence, and it's the same the other way too, confident men take advantage of women who have low self confidence by getting them to do whatever he wants while giving little to nothing in return.

cope, a large percent of women have rape fantasies, meaning they all want an abusive chad that dominates them physically and mentally

 

[randomuser2407]

cope, a large percent of women have rape fantasies, meaning they all want an abusive chad that dominates them physically and mentally

Women want to be dominated only in bed, not outside of it, so it's purely a sexual thing, I wasn't talking about sexual situations.
Also, a lot of men (even non Chads) dominate women in bed and then they get dominated by women in their day-to-day life in the relationship. Of course there are exceptions where submissive women live in 24/7 D/s relationships but that is not the majority of women. The majority of women are submissive in bed but dominant in the relationship.

If you let them dominate you, you're a simp. All I was saying is that to not be a simp, you just need to not let them dominate you, you need to act based on logic, not blindless worship and never let her have power over you. But trying to dominate women instead in this day and age (outside of sexual situations) does not work, simply because feminism has given women equal rights and they will not accept to give that up so if you try to tell them what to do, most of the time, they will not tolerate that, and since you can't use force, you won't have any power over them. So, even if you wanted to put in the effort, even if you were "Chad", you couldn't truly dominate her, feminism has made it impossible.

Also, there is this misconception in the manosphere that women are in relationships just because they would be lonely otherwise and that they don't actually love those men and that they would rather have Chad but can't have him and that they would cheat on their significant other with Chad if given the opportunity but the truth is that most women wouldn't, and those who would are just too afraid to break up.

The dual mating strategy is true in the sense that women choose men differently based on what they want (hookup or relationship) but that doesn't mean that the man they are dating for long term is just seen as a cuck. Incels are making the mistake of mixing cuck porn with real life when in reality, such a thing almost never happens and when it does, most of the time, it really is an accident.

Men who are in relationships actually get more sex on average then men who hookup simply because when you're in a relationship, especially at the start, you'll have sex many times per week, sometimes even every day. It is only those who are married or those who have kids who end up having no sex at all. If women really fit into the manosphere's idea of dual mating strategy, then they would never have sex with their boyfriend.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

If you let them dominate you, you're a simp. All I was saying is that to not be a simp, you just need to not let them dominate you, you need to act based on logic, not blindless worship and never let her have power over you. But trying to dominate women instead in this day and age (outside of sexual situations) does not work, simply because feminism has given women equal rights and they will not accept to give that up so if you try to tell them what to do, most of the time, they will not tolerate that, and since you can't use force, you won't have any power over them. So, even if you wanted to put in the effort, even if you were "Chad", you couldn't truly dominate her, feminism has made it impossible.

yes u can, it needs to be by force tho, but once u do it she'll love u

 

[randomuser2407]

yes u can, it needs to be by force tho, but once u do it she'll love u

Unless you live in the middle east, doing so will get you thrown in prison very quickly. Like many others on this forum, you don't live in the real world.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Unless you live in the middle east, doing so will get you thrown in prison very quickly. Like many others on this forum, you don't live in the real world.

nigga 95% of women won't fucking go to the police if u smack them or manhandle around a lil bit cause they obv like it, u live in a safe bubble, it get real out here

 

[eyelidcel]

I can't believe I gave away all my power, when I had everything naturally set up perfectly. but me trying to act like a normie made me act like a cuck instead, I wanted love from a thot who was trying to slide down my cock and was ready to submit but I let her win. Shit tests caught me off guard, I got emotional and started acting like a bitch. conversated too much with the bitch, showed her all my interests and told her WAY too much about myself. No desire to do that now at all.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

[1]Women want to be dominated only in bed, not outside of it, so it's purely a sexual thing, I wasn't talking about sexual situations.
Also, a lot of men (even non Chads) dominate women in bed and then they get dominated by women in their day-to-day life in the relationship. Of course there are exceptions where submissive women live in 24/7 D/s relationships but that is not the majority of women. The majority of women are submissive in bed but dominant in the relationship.

If you let them dominate you, you're a simp. All I was saying is that to not be a simp, you just need to not let them dominate you, you need to act based on logic, not blindless worship and never let her have power over you. But trying to dominate women instead in this day and age (outside of sexual situations) does not work, simply because feminism has given women equal rights and they will not accept to give that up so if you try to tell them what to do, most of the time, they will not tolerate that, and since you can't use force, you won't have any power over them. So, even if you wanted to put in the effort, even if you were "Chad", you couldn't truly dominate her, feminism has made it impossible.

[2]Also, there is this misconception in the manosphere that women are in relationships just because they would be lonely otherwise and that they don't actually love those men and that they would rather have Chad but can't have him and that they would cheat on their significant other with Chad if given the opportunity but the truth is that most women wouldn't, and those who would are just too afraid to break up.

[3]The dual mating strategy is true in the sense that women choose men differently based on what they want (hookup or relationship) but that doesn't mean that the man they are dating for long term is just seen as a cuck. Incels are making the mistake of mixing cuck porn with real life when in reality, such a thing almost never happens and when it does, most of the time, it really is an accident.

[4]Men who are in relationships actually get more sex on average then men who hookup simply because when you're in a relationship, especially at the start, you'll have sex many times per week, sometimes even every day. It is only those who are married or those who have kids who end up having no sex at all. If women really fit into the manosphere's idea of dual mating strategy, then they would never have sex with their boyfriend.

This is an interesting post, and you make a lot of good points. However, I'm not sure I fully agree with you. This post became stupidly long, hope you have the patience to read it lol. I just think its a fun discussion to have and something that you can basically never discuss IRL.

[1] I don't think its true that women only want to be dominated only in bed. We have to be considerate about what we mean when we say dominate - to dominate can mean a lot of things: you can physically dominate without being strictly "violent", you can psychologically dominate and so on.

When I think of domination outside of the bedroom, I think of the woman being controlled by the man. It doesn't need to be dark or sad - this is a situation which both can and will be very happy with. For instance, traditional gender roles where the woman does everything in the house, goes to the fridge and is generally very servicable.

This isn't a bad thing, it won't get you thrown in jail. You might think "well, good luck getting the modern feminist to go along with that" - well, thats the interesting thing. If you are a non-cuck anti SJW, and she loves you - she will become more sensible, and be happy to do those things for you. Remember that the "force" you use is her unstoppable desire to be in a relationship with you, not physical force.

As for more obvious dominant behavior like getting angry and so on, that too has its place (but definitely shouldn't be over done). There was a meme on tiktok where girls where talking about how they got horny when their boyfriend got fed up with her shit and told her to sit down and shut up. Why do you think that is? Domination is sexual, as you say - and so it builds attraction.

[2] Great point! I definitely do think women love men, and while a lot of women settle for men they don't love in the slightest, those relationships are easily detectable and so not something anyone on these boards would willingly walk into.

When it comes to whether a woman would cheat with Chad or not comes down a lot of different factors. This isn't a complete list, but some considerations:

1. What is the power balance in the current relationship? If she thinks her boyfriend is the best she can land, she won't even see other men. A hotter guy on the street will have nowhere near the status of the boyfriend because his status is so solidified. This has some caveats, as we will see in point 2.

2. The disparity between boyfriend and Chad in terms of looks - if the couple we're talking about here are borderline subhuman, and a PSL 8 6'3 top tier Chad approaches her, the chances of her cheating are obviously higher than if her current boyfriend is closer to the Chad in terms of looks.

3. The situation surrounding the girl and Chad is obviously extremely important. Meeting a random Chad on a fun night out probably won't result in anything if the relationship is solid. But if Chad is a bachelor co-worker for years at her side and she likes him and he constantly proves he is higher value than her boyfriend, and he starts showing her interest, she will suddently consider cheating very seriously.

To me, I think it boils down to a value judgement which is comprised of the following factors:

1. How attracted she is to her boyfriend (this goes for all factors possible to consider; looks, status, length of relationship, "personality" etc.)
2. How attracted she is to Chad (again, all possible factors)
3. Which one is most secure, i.e if boyfriend is 100% secure and Chad is a gamble, then the attraction desparity needs to be even larger to make her cheat than if both are more a 50/50 thing, in which the choice becomes a lot more obvious based on attraction levels.

[3] I know the litterature supports this hypothesis, however to me I think another explanation makes a lot more sense:

We know women can identify physical and behavioral traits that tells them whether a man is "relationship material" or not, and thus we have the red pill mantra of "alpha fucks beta bucks" or something along those lines. However, I don't believe that women actually prefer to be with the "provider" type over the "alpha" type long term either.

Going back to the value / risk judgement I mentioned earlier, I think its logical to say that she simply cannot risk being left, so she "settles" for a provider type. Ideally, she would land a "alpha" long term, but she knows that doesn't happen. So optimally, she would either 1) meet a true dark triad alpha, then somehow manage him enough to keep him (even if he cheats and treats her badly) or 2) meet a more "normal" alpha that is happy to be in a relationship, i.e an intelligent man with a level head that just happens to be very attractive and not turned into a cuck by social conditioning.

We can see this happening all the time, with women constantly chasing the "douchebag" type until she closes in on 30, then suddenly settling for a safe "provider" type. This is because the risk situation worsens for her as she closes in on 30.

Another example is women staying in terribly abusive relationships where some might even risk their life by staying. Even when the boyfriend is so obviously not a provider in any sense, the strong attraction makes her want to stay with him and stay loyal, even if he is cheating and abusing her. Because she would rather have that than a man she is less attracted to, even though he would be kind and safe.

[4] I can second that. When I was hooking up a lot I could be having sex realistically 2-3 times a week, simply because the logistics of meeting girls takes a lot of time, even if I did well in terms of attracting them. In my current relationship we have been having sex essentially every day for over 2 years, often times a lot more than one too. However I don't think sex in a relationships dies because of marriage or children. Children can of course make it more challenging, and so that + being busy (and pregnancy period) will challenge the sex life of the couple, of course.

However I think dead bedrooms happens because attraction simply dies between one or both. Its a combination of the man being bad at sex / changing it up, letting themselves go, and simply losing respect for each other. The typical situation will be that a woman settles for a "provider" type she deems of acceptable level. The sex at the start was OK, but quickly got monotonous and boring. She starts fantasizing about having sex with other men, but has zero chance at getting a new partner with her multiple children and having gotten fat. So they stay in a sort of business relationship with basically no sex.

 

[gaymidget]

This is an interesting post, and you make a lot of good points. However, I'm not sure I fully agree with you. This post became stupidly long, hope you have the patience to read it lol. I just think its a fun discussion to have and something that you can basically never discuss IRL.

[1] I don't think its true that women only want to be dominated only in bed. We have to be considerate about what we mean when we say dominate - to dominate can mean a lot of things: you can physically dominate without being strictly "violent", you can psychologically dominate and so on.

When I think of domination outside of the bedroom, I think of the woman being controlled by the man. It doesn't need to be dark or sad - this is a situation which both can and will be very happy with. For instance, traditional gender roles where the woman does everything in the house, goes to the fridge and is generally very servicable.

This isn't a bad thing, it won't get you thrown in jail. You might think "well, good luck getting the modern feminist to go along with that" - well, thats the interesting thing. If you are a non-cuck anti SJW, and she loves you - she will become more sensible, and be happy to do those things for you. Remember that the "force" you use is her unstoppable desire to be in a relationship with you, not physical force.

As for more obvious dominant behavior like getting angry and so on, that too has its place (but definitely shouldn't be over done). There was a meme on tiktok where girls where talking about how they got horny when their boyfriend got fed up with her shit and told her to sit down and shut up. Why do you think that is? Domination is sexual, as you say - and so it builds attraction.

[2] Great point! I definitely do think women love men, and while a lot of women settle for men they don't love in the slightest, those relationships are easily detectable and so not something anyone on these boards would willingly walk into.

When it comes to whether a woman would cheat with Chad or not comes down a lot of different factors. This isn't a complete list, but some considerations:

1. What is the power balance in the current relationship? If she thinks her boyfriend is the best she can land, she won't even see other men. A hotter guy on the street will have nowhere near the status of the boyfriend because his status is so solidified. This has some caveats, as we will see in point 2.

2. The disparity between boyfriend and Chad in terms of looks - if the couple we're talking about here are borderline subhuman, and a PSL 8 6'3 top tier Chad approaches her, the chances of her cheating are obviously higher than if her current boyfriend is closer to the Chad in terms of looks.

3. The situation surrounding the girl and Chad is obviously extremely important. Meeting a random Chad on a fun night out probably won't result in anything if the relationship is solid. But if Chad is a bachelor co-worker for years at her side and she likes him and he constantly proves he is higher value than her boyfriend, and he starts showing her interest, she will suddently consider cheating very seriously.

To me, I think it boils down to a value judgement which is comprised of the following factors:

1. How attracted she is to her boyfriend (this goes for all factors possible to consider; looks, status, length of relationship, "personality" etc.)
2. How attracted she is to Chad (again, all possible factors)
3. Which one is most secure, i.e if boyfriend is 100% secure and Chad is a gamble, then the attraction desparity needs to be even larger to make her cheat than if both are more a 50/50 thing, in which the choice becomes a lot more obvious based on attraction levels.

[3] I know the litterature supports this hypothesis, however to me I think another explanation makes a lot more sense:

We know women can identify physical and behavioral traits that tells them whether a man is "relationship material" or not, and thus we have the red pill mantra of "alpha fucks beta bucks" or something along those lines. However, I don't believe that women actually prefer to be with the "provider" type over the "alpha" type long term either.

Going back to the value / risk judgement I mentioned earlier, I think its logical to say that she simply cannot risk being left, so she "settles" for a provider type. Ideally, she would land a "alpha" long term, but she knows that doesn't happen. So optimally, she would either 1) meet a true dark triad alpha, then somehow manage him enough to keep him (even if he cheats and treats her badly) or 2) meet a more "normal" alpha that is happy to be in a relationship, i.e an intelligent man with a level head that just happens to be very attractive and not turned into a cuck by social conditioning.

We can see this happening all the time, with women constantly chasing the "douchebag" type until she closes in on 30, then suddenly settling for a safe "provider" type. This is because the risk situation worsens for her as she closes in on 30.

Another example is women staying in terribly abusive relationships where some might even risk their life by staying. Even when the boyfriend is so obviously not a provider in any sense, the strong attraction makes her want to stay with him and stay loyal, even if he is cheating and abusing her. Because she would rather have that than a man she is less attracted to, even though he would be kind and safe.

[4] I can second that. When I was hooking up a lot I could be having sex realistically 2-3 times a week, simply because the logistics of meeting girls takes a lot of time, even if I did well in terms of attracting them. In my current relationship we have been having sex essentially every day for over 2 years, often times a lot more than one too. However I don't think sex in a relationships dies because of marriage or children. Children can of course make it more challenging, and so that + being busy (and pregnancy period) will challenge the sex life of the couple, of course.

However I think dead bedrooms happens because attraction simply dies between one or both. Its a combination of the man being bad at sex / changing it up, letting themselves go, and simply losing respect for each other. The typical situation will be that a woman settles for a "provider" type she deems of acceptable level. The sex at the start was OK, but quickly got monotonous and boring. She starts fantasizing about having sex with other men, but has zero chance at getting a new partner with her multiple children and having gotten fat. So they stay in a sort of business relationship with basically no sex.

There was a study, can't remember the exact name but its in the incel wiki, where they showed that the more women loved their LTR partner, the less sex was occuring. In my experience, love and attraction are something entirely different.

Love in a monogamous relationship is more like the love you have for family members. Its a oxytocin based love. Attraction, which can be called love also, is more dopamine based, thus more stimulating, more addicting and more fun. A good sexual based relationship is like cocaine for the mind. Now I am a young guy (21) but in my experience, being the alpha is always more satisfying than being the long term mate. Yeah sure, its nice to have a loving partner but its not going to satisfy her.

Is there a medium way? Yes I think so. If you act alpha and then build a relationship where you are more distant, cold, less loving etc. you can have a LTR while being not seen as a long term mate. But its quite difficult because you have to balance it. The more attractive you are and good at sex, the easier it is.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

There was a study, can't remember the exact name but its in the incel wiki, where they showed that the more women loved their LTR partner, the less sex was occuring. In my experience, love and attraction are something entirely different.

Love in a monogamous relationship is more like the love you have for family members. Its a oxytocin based love. Attraction, which can be called love also, is more dopamine based, thus more stimulating, more addicting and more fun. A good sexual based relationship is like cocaine for the mind. Now I am a young guy (21) but in my experience, being the alpha is always more satisfying than being the long term mate. Yeah sure, its nice to have a loving partner but its not going to satisfy her.

Is there a medium way? Yes I think so. If you act alpha and then build a relationship where you are more distant, cold, less loving etc. you can have a LTR while being not seen as a long term mate. But its quite difficult because you have to balance it. The more attractive you are and good at sex, the easier it is.

I guess then that it boils down to semantics: What do we define as love? I think most men couldn't care less about being "loved" as a family member by women.

My hypothesis, without having seen the study you mentioned, is that "love" is confused with "trust", and so the higher "trust", the lower the amount of sex. Because a woman who trusts his partner a lot, is very likely to not be sexually attracted to him. Because a partner she can trust is a partner that has low SMV.

 

[randomuser2407]

This is an interesting post, and you make a lot of good points. However, I'm not sure I fully agree with you. This post became stupidly long, hope you have the patience to read it lol. I just think its a fun discussion to have and something that you can basically never discuss IRL.

[1] I don't think its true that women only want to be dominated only in bed. We have to be considerate about what we mean when we say dominate - to dominate can mean a lot of things: you can physically dominate without being strictly "violent", you can psychologically dominate and so on.

When I think of domination outside of the bedroom, I think of the woman being controlled by the man. It doesn't need to be dark or sad - this is a situation which both can and will be very happy with. For instance, traditional gender roles where the woman does everything in the house, goes to the fridge and is generally very servicable.

This isn't a bad thing, it won't get you thrown in jail. You might think "well, good luck getting the modern feminist to go along with that" - well, thats the interesting thing. If you are a non-cuck anti SJW, and she loves you - she will become more sensible, and be happy to do those things for you. Remember that the "force" you use is her unstoppable desire to be in a relationship with you, not physical force.

As for more obvious dominant behavior like getting angry and so on, that too has its place (but definitely shouldn't be over done). There was a meme on tiktok where girls where talking about how they got horny when their boyfriend got fed up with her shit and told her to sit down and shut up. Why do you think that is? Domination is sexual, as you say - and so it builds attraction.

[2] Great point! I definitely do think women love men, and while a lot of women settle for men they don't love in the slightest, those relationships are easily detectable and so not something anyone on these boards would willingly walk into.

When it comes to whether a woman would cheat with Chad or not comes down a lot of different factors. This isn't a complete list, but some considerations:

1. What is the power balance in the current relationship? If she thinks her boyfriend is the best she can land, she won't even see other men. A hotter guy on the street will have nowhere near the status of the boyfriend because his status is so solidified. This has some caveats, as we will see in point 2.

2. The disparity between boyfriend and Chad in terms of looks - if the couple we're talking about here are borderline subhuman, and a PSL 8 6'3 top tier Chad approaches her, the chances of her cheating are obviously higher than if her current boyfriend is closer to the Chad in terms of looks.

3. The situation surrounding the girl and Chad is obviously extremely important. Meeting a random Chad on a fun night out probably won't result in anything if the relationship is solid. But if Chad is a bachelor co-worker for years at her side and she likes him and he constantly proves he is higher value than her boyfriend, and he starts showing her interest, she will suddently consider cheating very seriously.

To me, I think it boils down to a value judgement which is comprised of the following factors:

1. How attracted she is to her boyfriend (this goes for all factors possible to consider; looks, status, length of relationship, "personality" etc.)
2. How attracted she is to Chad (again, all possible factors)
3. Which one is most secure, i.e if boyfriend is 100% secure and Chad is a gamble, then the attraction desparity needs to be even larger to make her cheat than if both are more a 50/50 thing, in which the choice becomes a lot more obvious based on attraction levels.

[3] I know the litterature supports this hypothesis, however to me I think another explanation makes a lot more sense:

We know women can identify physical and behavioral traits that tells them whether a man is "relationship material" or not, and thus we have the red pill mantra of "alpha fucks beta bucks" or something along those lines. However, I don't believe that women actually prefer to be with the "provider" type over the "alpha" type long term either.

Going back to the value / risk judgement I mentioned earlier, I think its logical to say that she simply cannot risk being left, so she "settles" for a provider type. Ideally, she would land a "alpha" long term, but she knows that doesn't happen. So optimally, she would either 1) meet a true dark triad alpha, then somehow manage him enough to keep him (even if he cheats and treats her badly) or 2) meet a more "normal" alpha that is happy to be in a relationship, i.e an intelligent man with a level head that just happens to be very attractive and not turned into a cuck by social conditioning.

We can see this happening all the time, with women constantly chasing the "douchebag" type until she closes in on 30, then suddenly settling for a safe "provider" type. This is because the risk situation worsens for her as she closes in on 30.

Another example is women staying in terribly abusive relationships where some might even risk their life by staying. Even when the boyfriend is so obviously not a provider in any sense, the strong attraction makes her want to stay with him and stay loyal, even if he is cheating and abusing her. Because she would rather have that than a man she is less attracted to, even though he would be kind and safe.

[4] I can second that. When I was hooking up a lot I could be having sex realistically 2-3 times a week, simply because the logistics of meeting girls takes a lot of time, even if I did well in terms of attracting them. In my current relationship we have been having sex essentially every day for over 2 years, often times a lot more than one too. However I don't think sex in a relationships dies because of marriage or children. Children can of course make it more challenging, and so that + being busy (and pregnancy period) will challenge the sex life of the couple, of course.

However I think dead bedrooms happens because attraction simply dies between one or both. Its a combination of the man being bad at sex / changing it up, letting themselves go, and simply losing respect for each other. The typical situation will be that a woman settles for a "provider" type she deems of acceptable level. The sex at the start was OK, but quickly got monotonous and boring. She starts fantasizing about having sex with other men, but has zero chance at getting a new partner with her multiple children and having gotten fat. So they stay in a sort of business relationship with basically no sex.

You were right in your assumption, I don't have the patience to read all that.

That is especially because I joined this site to improve my looks, not to talk about how women think or what women want because I really don't care about such things, sometimes I find myself talking about it by accident but in reality, I only care about improving my looks.

People here think that I am improving my looks just to get laid like everyone else but the truth is that I'm not doing it for that reason.

The main reason why I'm looksmaxxing is to get into modelling and acting, because with my current looks level, I wouldn't get very far.

And although I have learned what makes men attractive, I still have no idea what I can do to improve apart from gymmaxxing, that is because this forum spends too much time talking about theories and mocking other people instead of actually giving helpful advice, so the title of "looksmax" is false advertising because most users aren't even looksmaxxing.

 

[ObamasLastName]

My Avis long lost brother View attachment 332198

cool

 

[reptiles]

This is also why femdom exists btw. It's a sex oneitis. I'll make a thread later explaining different fetishes.

Tag me cause i can't stop watching femdom though post masturbation any feeling for foids end

 

[gaymidget]

I guess then that it boils down to semantics: What do we define as love? I think most men couldn't care less about being "loved" as a family member by women.

My hypothesis, without having seen the study you mentioned, is that "love" is confused with "trust", and so the higher "trust", the lower the amount of sex. Because a woman who trusts his partner a lot, is very likely to not be sexually attracted to him. Because a partner she can trust is a partner that has low SMV.

I mean it depends. There is a great feeling of having a girl on your side, who is there for you, who you can introduce to your family, who supports u and u support back. It can give a men a reason to live, especially the average ones who know that they wont succeed in anything. (working class)

Could be true but the women defined their levels of love in the study. So at least they associate trust with love. Like u said, its semantic but my point is: Its a tragedy of life. You cant have both and its a bitter pill to swallow and essentially the red pill summarized. (Dual mating strategy). I think thats why the red pill emphasizes having a life mission. If you have a great passion in life, for example Karl Lagerfeld who loved his work and who's life was all about fashion, you dont need any male-female love.

 

[texascel]

this is some low iq incel shit
why this is partly man/women relationship can't be reduced to a pill or shit like this it's much more complex

 

[Ultramental]

the chad slays,normie gets cucked and incel fantasizes about love is so fckin true,for a moment i even fall muh teen love purity,its all bullshit and whoever is spreading this fud is retarded

 

[randomvanish]

one of the dumbest threads all the time.

op giving examples by GIANT whores

 

[Deleted member 12611]

I can't believe I gave away all my power, when I had everything naturally set up perfectly. but me trying to act like a normie made me act like a cuck instead, I wanted love from a thot who was trying to slide down my cock and was ready to submit but I let her win. Shit tests caught me off guard, I got emotional and started acting like a bitch. conversated too much with the bitch, showed her all my interests and told her WAY too much about myself. No desire to do that now at all.

Slayer is the perfect personality for making girls crush on you. Will explain why psychologically later.

 

[eyelidcel]

Slayer is the perfect personality for making girls crush on you. Will explain why psychologically later.

I think I did (some) slayer shit but hadn't gotten my wings yet so I had no idea what to actually do. Plus, I had a conscience and hadn't considered women truly lesser than men yet.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

I think I did (some) slayer shit but hadn't gotten my wings yet so I had no idea what to actually do. Plus, I had a conscience and hadn't considered women truly lesser than men yet.

First, be attractive.
Second, act like an indifferent asshole who gives her short bursts of attention.
To summarize why it works, being attractive causes a halo effect which results in her considering you perfect in unseen qualities. You acting like an indifferent asshole reaffirms this superiority and perfection in her mind, intensifying the halo effect and making her crush on you harder.

 

[eyelidcel]

First, be attractive.
Second, act like an indifferent asshole who gives her short bursts of attention.
To summarize why it works, being attractive causes a halo effect which results in her considering you perfect in unseen qualities. You acting like an indifferent asshole reaffirms this superiority and perfection in her mind, intensifying the halo effect and making her crush on you harder.

I was doing that actually, I would stare at her in a sexual way, she's staring back at me while sometimes I would just ignore her and not even acknowledge her. it started to fall apart when I got all gay and emotional trying to reciprocate the feelings. But that's blue pill shit, I now know here is a chaser and one that is being chased. I was the one being chased then I fucked it up.

basically, If she's trying to impress you and keeps failing she'll eventually try to impress you with her pussy. I was literally right there, I've had legitimate nightmares about messing what I could have had up. If covid didn't happen I would have had her though. she basically gave me infinite chances and I fucked up.

One time, she was legitimately waiting on me but I already left. she probably was gonna fuck me that day. she's offered me a ride if i need it before.