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How did this girl get such good results?

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Also some before and afters from BSSO:
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If you were to go to a surgeon for BSSO, what precise tweaks would you add?

Whats the maximum length you can move your jaw forward?

If someone wanted to get ccw rotation, how would they ask for it so it reduces their gonial angle?

Lefort I before and afters:

Before and After Lefort 1 osteotomy and Bilateral sagittal ...

Sarah's Smile: Before and After Lefort I - 5 weeks post-op

Jaw Surgery New York NY, Metropolitan Oral Surgery ...



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What's the maximum advancement u can get from Lefort I?
What would you specifically note to the surgeon to do if u were getting a Lefort I?

How would you construct a perfect bimax?
So you can gain as much possible from it?

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How did this girl get such good results?

ipgc0e8ayf061.png


Also some before and afters from BSSO:
HA Paste Result

This before and after - Tapatalk

Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1457273913074734000_8519.jpg

Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1457274259022570200_4966.jpg


If you were to go to a surgeon for BSSO, what precise tweaks would you add?

Whats the maximum length you can move your jaw forward?

If someone wanted to get ccw rotation, how would they ask for it so it reduces their gonial angle?

Lefort I before and afters:

Before and After Lefort 1 osteotomy and Bilateral sagittal ...

Sarah's Smile: Before and After Lefort I - 5 weeks post-op

Jaw Surgery New York NY, Metropolitan Oral Surgery ...



Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1435922527093535100_1278.jpg


What's the maximum advancement u can get from Lefort I?
What would you specifically note to the surgeon to do if u were getting a Lefort I?

How would you construct a perfect bimax?
So you can gain as much possible from it?

Tags:
@goat2x @Proex @kjsbdfiusdf @saturn97 @Won'tStopNoodling @Collagen or rope
I have no clue how to answer these

But I know someone someone who does @DatGuyYouLike

By the way the first girl literal ascension
 
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How did this girl get such good results?

ipgc0e8ayf061.png


Also some before and afters from BSSO:
HA Paste Result

This before and after - Tapatalk

Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1457273913074734000_8519.jpg

Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1457274259022570200_4966.jpg


If you were to go to a surgeon for BSSO, what precise tweaks would you add?

Whats the maximum length you can move your jaw forward?

If someone wanted to get ccw rotation, how would they ask for it so it reduces their gonial angle?

Lefort I before and afters:

Before and After Lefort 1 osteotomy and Bilateral sagittal ...

Sarah's Smile: Before and After Lefort I - 5 weeks post-op

Jaw Surgery New York NY, Metropolitan Oral Surgery ...



Dr-Joel-Defrancq-1435922527093535100_1278.jpg


What's the maximum advancement u can get from Lefort I?
What would you specifically note to the surgeon to do if u were getting a Lefort I?

How would you construct a perfect bimax?
So you can gain as much possible from it?

Tags:
@goat2x @Proex @kjsbdfiusdf @saturn97 @Won'tStopNoodling @Collagen or rope

Pick a surgeon who has performed a result you like, on a patient with a similar starting base to you.

Also, the results you show with the biggest ascensions, are because the starting points are more deformed. The more recessed you are to begin with, the more difference this surgery will make to your looks.

PM me if you want help with how best to ascend your face.
 
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Pick a surgeon who has performed a result you like, on a patient with a similar starting base to you.

Also, the results you show with the biggest ascensions, are because the starting points are more deformed. The more recessed you are to begin with, the more difference this surgery will make to your looks.

PM me if you want help with how best to ascend your face.
If everyone on this forum was as knowledgeable as you, this place would be so much more productive
 
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The “perfect” movements depends on the individual.

And in BSSO the cut is made anteriorly in relation to the gonion. So it won’t affect the angle AT the gonion, but if you want to decrease the mandibular angle, you’d need CCW. Which again, isn’t the best thing for every single individual.
 
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If everyone on this forum was as knowledgeable as you, this place would be so much more productive

Thank you man, I dont know anywhere near as much as surgeons or anything, but I try to apply good logic to what we do know.
 
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Pick a surgeon who has performed a result you like, on a patient with a similar starting base to you.

Also, the results you show with the biggest ascensions, are because the starting points are more deformed. The more recessed you are to begin with, the more difference this surgery will make to your looks.

PM me if you want help with how best to ascend your face.


Did I do this correctly? It seemed like her under eye area was improved

Also I'm just trying to ask what's the maximum limit of mms you can advance ur jaw forward..

Also the maximum limit you can advance ur lower maxilla
 

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he most likely had lefort 1 too not just bsso
 
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Did I do this correctly? It seemed like her under eye area was improved

Also I'm just trying to ask what's the maximum limit of mms you can advance ur jaw forward..

Also the maximum limit you can advance ur lower maxilla

Generally speaking if you move the upper jaw more than 6mm, it can start to look chimpish and unnattractive. The lower jaw on the other hand, we've seen results where its been moved 20mm (BSSO+Genioplasty) and looks very good and natural afterwards.

This is why CCW Bimax usually ascends people the most (if you fit the profile who needs it), because it can give you much more lower jaw projection while still keeping the upper jaw advancement at around 5mm
 
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Did I do this correctly? It seemed like her under eye area was improved

Also I'm just trying to ask what's the maximum limit of mms you can advance ur jaw forward..

Also the maximum limit you can advance ur lower maxilla

Your undereye wont change from bimax. Only the paranasal area gets advanced, above that it will look slightly more flat afterwards because this upper midface has been left behind relative to the bottom half of the face.
 
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Your undereye wont change from bimax. Only the paranasal area gets advanced, above that it will look slightly more flat afterwards because this upper midface has been left behind relative to the bottom half of the face.
Did u see the attachments? Her dark undereye circles went away.

I don't know if she was using makeup or not but I'm pretty sure it went away from her upper jaw being advanced right?
 
Did u see the attachments? Her dark undereye circles went away.

I don't know if she was using makeup or not but I'm pretty sure it went away from her upper jaw being advanced right?

Whatever made it disappear, I guarantee it wasn't the bimax from changing any bone structure or soft tissue under the eyes.

The only way it could be, is if her sleep quality improved so her dark eye bags disappeared, since bimax will improve your sleep quality a lot.
 
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most of these got implants too
 
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