Building muscle naturally takes incredibly long

[Crowley]

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

 

[Deleted member 10551]

Yeah, if you have low T. Even still, natty lifting is much harder.

 

[Deleted member 4332]

Cope. It only takes 2-3 years to reach 85-90% of your natural genetic limit

 

[Crowley]

Cope. It only takes 2-3 years to reach 85-90% of your natural genetic limit

Steroids or die skinny

 

[Crowley]

Yeah, if you have low T. Even still, natty lifting is much harder.

My test is on the high side and it still is hard

lifting without gear is kinda stupid honestly

 

[Deleted member 10551]

My test is on the high side and it still is hard

lifting without gear is kinda stupid honestly

I agree. I’d blast, but I’m worried about my hair. Might just do a mini blast along with TRT.

 

[Crowley]

I agree. I’d blast, but I’m worried about my hair. Might just do a mini blast along with TRT.

Only reason I’m still not on trt is because of accutane

I don’t want to hit my livers that hard

 

[Deleted member 5574]

a young man can gain 12-24 lbs of muscle in year

 

[Deleted member 11221]

depends on your genes but i got a decent amount bigger after 3-6 months

 

[everydayfun]

a young man can gain 12-24 lbs of muscle in year

 

[KnoxHarrington]

What kind of plan are you following?

If you're doing power lifting, crossfit type shit, then yeah. Good luck.

Need to do the old school bro split. Train for the pump. One workout per body part. It's out of fashion today, but THAT is how you gain mass. You won't be the strongest, but you'll get big.

 

[klamus]

Cope. You can hit nattymax in 2 years

 

[Deleted member 10516]

No it Doesn’t

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

 

[randomvanish]

op is dumb. natural lifting is more than enough. no one likes roided freaks in general.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

op is dumb. natural lifting is more than enough. no one likes roided freaks in general.

How big can you get naturally

 

[6’1cel]

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

it’s only slow for non-white people

 

[Deleted member 3583]

it’s only slow for non-white people

actually true tbh

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

Just like most things it is a matter of time investment. You could say it takes you 5 years to learn chinese, which might be true if you only put in a few hours of learning a week. But if you dedicate more time then you could learn it in one year. Weightlifting is just the same. If you shove chicken breast down your gullet and lift constantly, always increasing weight, then you can gain muscle very quickly. In just 6 months you could gain more than 30 pounds of muscle

 

[JimmyDreamsOfZygos]

>it’s only slow for non white people

 

[Deleted member 3583]

actually true tbh

nvm, its slow for ethnics, fast af for niggers

 

[6’1cel]

nvm, its slow for ethnics, fast af for niggers

fast for niggers with roids

 

[Deleted member 3583]

fast for niggers with roids

niggers dont even need to lift nevermind roids jfl. i grew up with negro kids that ate candy all day and they mog 50% of gymshark in terms of shreddedness

 

[6’1cel]

niggers dont even need to lift nevermind roids jfl. i grew up with negro kids that ate candy all day and they mog 50% of gymshark in terms of shreddedness

ye the nigger boy was low bf%
because he is was runnin around all day because of the energy he had from da candy

 

[.*my*.]

Cope. It only takes 2-3 years to reach 85-90% of your natural genetic limit

It takes 5 years to reach 85-95%.

 

[.*my*.]

Yes it takes 4-10 years to get a great physique, but it’s way cheaper and safer to train natty, and you will look the same year round, unlike steroids when you look like shit for half a year and awesome half a year.

 

[Morpheus]

Anyone who says this kind of shit is just bullshitting when they’re in the gym and making no effort to eat a good diet.

 

[Deleted member 10167]

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

if you weren't shredded at 16 it's over. it never began

 

[.*my*.]

Anyone who says this kind of shit is just bullshitting when they’re in the gym and making no effort to eat a good diet.

You can look pretty good as a natural lifter. It’s just that advanced lifters don’t stay natty for long and that’s why you don’t see that many natty lifters out there with good physiques.

 

[Gaunt]

I highly recommend that any teens reading this thread spend the next 3 years working out CONSISTENTLY on a solid routine and a semi-strict diet and you will reach 90% of your natty potential. After that you can literally maintain a 10-12% BF(Or less if you don't feel like shit) respectable physique for the next 15 years without much effort.

You will NEVER grow as fast as a natty like you can now in your teen years, obv steroids will make you explode at any age but that comes with other potential side effects.

 

[jackieboy21]

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

If your a genetic pussy, ive been working out a month and people ask me if im on roids

 

[Deleted member 8902]

No wonder people do steroids

What’s the point in being shredded at 30?

Natty lifting is cope if you have shit genetics.

 

[l0st@sea]

Just like most things it is a matter of time investment. You could say it takes you 5 years to learn chinese, which might be true if you only put in a few hours of learning a week. But if you dedicate more time then you could learn it in one year. Weightlifting is just the same. If you shove chicken breast down your gullet and lift constantly, always increasing weight, then you can gain muscle very quickly. In just 6 months you could gain more than 30 pounds of muscle

Both the metaphor and the actual example of weight lifting are wrong. You can only gain so much muscle. Gaining muscle is damaging muscle so it repairs thicker, stronger and bigger. You can't gain more by doing more because you're essentially just causing more damage. Unless you're on steroids, then you can do whatever.

As for your example, no you can't learn chinese in one year, there is a required amount of exposure necessary before neural pathways form which would allow you to ascend to the next level of competency. This requires time and sleep. You can't just do 10000000000000 flashcards in one day and know chinese the next. Even if you did that, you wouldn't be that much better. In other words, if someone does 5 hours a day for 2 years and someone does 20 hours for 6 months, the first guy who only spent 5 hours a day will be much, much better.

 

[Crowley]

Yes it takes 4-10 years to get a great physique, but it’s way cheaper and safer to train natty, and you will look the same year round, unlike steroids when you look like shit for half a year and awesome half a year.

I don’t have that much time man

I want to be ripped right now and I don’t care to much about safety tbh, but that doesn’t mean I will be running insane amount of drugs

 

[Crowley]

If your a genetic pussy, ive been working out a month and people ask me if im on roids

New ronnie coleman

 

[.*my*.]

I don’t have that much time man

I want to be ripped right now and I don’t care to much about safety tbh, but that doesn’t mean I will be running insane amount of drugs

Typical idiot 18 year old brain. You won’t be muscular in a month even with drugs.

 

[Crowley]

Typical idiot 18 year old brain. You won’t be muscular in a month even with drugs.

Whatever you wanna call it

I’m planning about two cycles a year, I personally know some guys who look huge doing that, and they kept most of the gains after PCT

I don’t expect to get big in a month, but I expect yuuuge gains

 

[.*my*.]

Whatever you wanna call it
I’m planning about two cycles a year, I personally know some guys who look huge doing that, and they kept most of the gains after PCT

I guarantee you that you will quit and lose all of your gains if you’re not even patient enough to lift natty for 2 years.

 

[Crowley]

I guarantee you that you will quit and lose all of your gains if you’re not even patient enough to lift natty for 2 years.

I’ll probably lift natty for another 6 months and then get the poison in my body

I actually have the patience, but I want to speed up the process, no need to wait years to build a decent physique

 

[.*my*.]

I’ll probably lift natty for another 6 months and then get the poison in my body

I actually have the patience, but I want to speed up the process, no need to wait years to build a decent physique

That’s exactly the definition of impatience.

 

[Crowley]

That’s exactly the definition of impatience.

Well, it still takes patience to build a great physique even with drugs

 

[.*my*.]

Well, it still takes patience to build a great physique even with drugs

Yes, and you don’t have that patience. It takes at least 2-3 years to get a good physique with drugs.

 

[Deleted member 8765]

Typical idiot 18 year old brain. You won’t be muscular in a month even with drugs.

God we need some type of age verification on this website.

 

[Deleted member 7192]

I highly recommend that any teens reading this thread spend the next 3 years working out CONSISTENTLY on a solid routine and a semi-strict diet and you will reach 90% of your natty potential. After that you can literally maintain a 10-12% BF(Or less if you don't feel like shit) respectable physique for the next 15 years without much effort.

You will NEVER grow as fast as a natty like you can now in your teen years, obv steroids will make you explode at any age but that comes with other potential side effects.

what solid routine if i go to pf

and wdym by strict diet, caloric restriction?