Burak Sercan Ercin vs. Dr. Taveechai at Rattinan — Who’s Better for a Hunter Eye Look?

[bigballer2324]

I’m trying to decide between Dr. Burak Sercan Ercin and Dr. Taveechai at Rattinan Clinic for eye-area work.


My goal is basically a more hunter-eye / striking male eye area: more horizontal-looking eyes, less upper eyelid exposure, a better canthal tilt, improved lower-eyelid support, and a deeper-set appearance without ending up looking operated-on or uncanny.


Burak openly advertises procedures aimed at creating the “hunter eye” look, so he obviously seems very familiar with that aesthetic. On the other hand, I’ve been seeing some really impressive eye-area work from Dr. Taveechai/Rattinan and have heard good things about his understanding of male eye aesthetics.


For anyone who has seriously researched either surgeon, had a consult with them, or actually had surgery with one of them:


Who would you trust more specifically for achieving this kind of result?


I’m less concerned about price/location and more interested in technical ability, aesthetics, consistency, and avoiding an overdone result.


If you had to choose between the two, who would you go with and why?

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

You could have dmed people that went to each and could have found them trough the search option

Why would you inflate the prices for yourself trough naming surgeons in the title....

 

[nathan_Bs123]

You could have dmed people that went to each and could have found them trough the search option

Why would you inflate the prices for yourself trough naming surgeons in the title....

bro ts geuinely pissing me off

 

[compost_]

What surgeon for best Hunter Eye look

Oh brother

 

[chris182]

They’re celebrity .org surgeons. They’ll just see Caucasians and mark up their prices anyway. Who do you think you’re kidding?

u seem to have never done a consult, these surgeons hike up their prices extremely fast when talked abt on org

Ofc ppl will be mad u low iq goblin

 

[chris182]

Thanks for the econ lesson Hitler. The average .org user is a complete retard anyway. There should be a moron premium.

anytime juden.

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

Thanks for the econ lesson Hitler. The average .org user is a complete retard anyway. There should be a moron premium.

Yeah they are morons like you
Its not hard to comprehend that one shouldn't spread names like that and speaking about it officially is gonna hike up the prices to levels where normies wouldn't be able to pay anymore and would have to look for another surgeon

They won't tais ethe prices if you come as a Caucasian they rise the prices once they become popular and the shepherds arrive for surgery

You never did a consult or a surgery

 

[chris182]

I get the concept, thanks. These surgeons are already really well known on .org. The damage is done. Not that I'm the one circulating names of third world surgeons anyway.

They'll do both retard. You think some third world clinic won't mark up prices for some white guy from the USA?

no they don't i've done surgery b4 (in a foreign country) and i'm white

and it's the same price (ofc they make it a bit higher since ur not a local) but ur race doesn't matter

 

[bigballer2324]

You could have dmed people that went to each and could have found them trough the search option

Why would you inflate the prices for yourself trough naming surgeons in the title....

This is being massively exaggerated. Male cosmetic surgery is already growing and prices are probably going to rise over time regardless.


Acting like naming a surgeon in a Looksmax thread is suddenly going to spike their prices is delusional. I could list every top surgeon on here and the vast majority of users still aren’t actually going to book surgery. Maybe it generates a few more consults, sure, but the number who actually pay, travel, recover, and follow through is tiny.


This forum is not moving the cosmetic surgery market like you guys think it is.

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

This is being massively exaggerated. Male cosmetic surgery is already growing and prices are probably going to rise over time regardless.


Acting like naming a surgeon in a Looksmax thread is suddenly going to spike their prices is delusional. I could list every top surgeon on here and the vast majority of users still aren’t actually going to book surgery. Maybe it generates a few more consults, sure, but the number who actually pay, travel, recover, and follow through is tiny.


This forum is not moving the cosmetic surgery market like you guys think it is.

You are delusional just look at the member count of looksmax org and also keep in mind that this forum isn't locking people without account out of accessing it's information

Tik tokkers use looksmax all the time to find new surgeons and then start spreading it on tik tokk (please don't tell me the information here doesn't end up on tik tokk)

The surgeons you spoke about have very cheap prices for surgeries every westerners can afford so they could actually afford it in most cases and would do it if the fono is strong enough and that can happen extremely fast I'm speaking from experience I had many consults behind me

Also not many people need to book surgery to hike up the prices

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

This is being massively exaggerated. Male cosmetic surgery is already growing and prices are probably going to rise over time regardless.


Acting like naming a surgeon in a Looksmax thread is suddenly going to spike their prices is delusional. I could list every top surgeon on here and the vast majority of users still aren’t actually going to book surgery. Maybe it generates a few more consults, sure, but the number who actually pay, travel, recover, and follow through is tiny.


This forum is not moving the cosmetic surgery market like you guys think it is.

Yeah male surgery will climb up in prices cause people can't gatekeep the surgeons otherwise surgeons wouldn't climb up the price if no isy made them popular

Its more about controlling how fast they become popular and that's what I mean with you shouldn't inflate the price for you cause they rice the prices in a matter of months like 1-2 months

When I first consulted with Pagnoni his prices were 26 k and when I consulted again two months after everyone was speaking about him on the forum and his prices did go to 32k and finally 33K

You don't seem to be aware at all how fast prices rise and why they rise

 

[lawenstn]

Yeah male surgery will climb up in prices cause people can't gatekeep the surgeons otherwise surgeons wouldn't climb up the price if no isy made them popular

Its more about controlling how fast they become popular and that's what I mean with you shouldn't inflate the price for you cause they rice the prices in a matter of months like 1-2 months

When I first consulted with Pagnoni his prices were 26 k and when I consulted again two months after everyone was speaking about him on the forum and his prices did go to 32k and finally 33K

You don't seem to be aware at all how fast prices rise and why they rise

You always keep arguing about the same points. Why do you even give a shit when it comes to those two surgeons as if there are not at least a few other posts on the first page of this sub mentioning their name.

You think that their service is reserved for you and cry because they become more expensive. Instead of looking for other surgeons who still have good prices you jump from dick to dick of hyped .org surgeons.

So don’t cry because surgeons who are already popular become even more popular and invest your time in research for other doctors or maybe get your money up and you can still go to those overhyped clinics

 

[vermicel]

When I first consulted with Pagnoni his prices were 26 k and when I consulted again two months after everyone was speaking about him on the forum and his prices did go to 32k and finally 33K

If I recall correctly (it was a long time ago and I was not too invested, so I may get a couple of details wrong), I was browsing Lookism (?) around 2017, when the first Ramieri patient published his testimony.
He was a young, wig-wearing Indian guy living in England. He had a trimax or bimax, malar or inframalar implants, and a rhino (!) ... and he paid only 15K€ for all that ! Nowadays, I don't think the same amount covers a plain bimax. Jawflation (aka surgeons' greed) is real !

And, yeah, the real issue is when info that is initially shared here ends up circulating on other platforms, mostly Tiktok, but also Reddit and LM Discord servers. That's how price hikes occur.

 

[Prøphet]

If I recall correctly (it was a long time ago and I was not too invested, so I may get a couple of details wrong), I was browsing Lookism (?) around 2017, when the first Ramieri patient published his testimony.
He was a young, wig-wearing Indian guy living in England. He had a trimax or bimax, malar or inframalar implants, and a rhino (!) ... and he paid only 15K€ for all that ! Nowadays, I don't think the same amount covers a plain bimax. Jawflation (aka surgeons' greed) is real !

And, yeah, the real issue is when info that is initially shared here ends up circulating on other platforms, mostly Tiktok, but also Reddit and LM Discord servers. That's how price hikes occur.

I know exactly who you’re talking about

He did like a whole vlog thing even at the airport as well right

Yeah it’s fucking insane that now you would have to pay basically double that just for a bimax from him

And I think it’s only gonna get exponentially worse over the years

Until a new supply of surgeons can come in to fill the demand 10-15 years down the line, we really got screwed

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

You always keep arguing about the same points. Why do you even give a shit when it comes to those two surgeons as if there are not at least a few other posts on the first page of this sub mentioning their name.

You think that their service is reserved for you and cry because they become more expensive. Instead of looking for other surgeons who still have good prices you jump from dick to dick of hyped .org surgeons.

So don’t cry because surgeons who are already popular become even more popular and invest your time in research for other doctors or maybe get your money up and you can still go to those overhyped clinics

I don't know if you can't read or are to stupid to absorb the information you read properly it must be one of the two things and I never said anything is reserved for me and trust me I have other surgeons I'm also looking at but references are what is important in this game

I don't know what to tell you if you can't lock information behind a private DM instead of supporting that surgeons names are being posted in post titles

How many surgeries, revisions etc have you done? I have the money but if the costs doesn't rise because people make a surgeon famous quickly o can do even more surgery quicker and more efficient
Such a stupid thing to say that one should get their money up unless you have a time wasting and spending money fetish
I guess some people are too low iq to get it and of you had some work done already you would know and you would also know that you alos have to spend money unrelated to surgeries when you are there a


I can go to whichever surgeon I want but would prefer that all of us have a reasonable price to pay because surgeries fix falos and don't create halos so te he price you are paying should be reasonable

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

If I recall correctly (it was a long time ago and I was not too invested, so I may get a couple of details wrong), I was browsing Lookism (?) around 2017, when the first Ramieri patient published his testimony.
He was a young, wig-wearing Indian guy living in England. He had a trimax or bimax, malar or inframalar implants, and a rhino (!) ... and he paid only 15K€ for all that ! Nowadays, I don't think the same amount covers a plain bimax. Jawflation (aka surgeons' greed) is real !

And, yeah, the real issue is when info that is initially shared here ends up circulating on other platforms, mostly Tiktok, but also Reddit and LM Discord servers. That's how price hikes occur.

Exactly some people are fucking low iq though and think hyping up surgeons officially and not locking it behind private dms is somehow a good idea and get defensive about that

Such a stupid low iq thing to mention a surgeon name in the title that you wanna go to yourself potentially cause you are to stupid to use the search bar and DM people that did go to these surgeons cause what if you need revision down the line

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

If I recall correctly (it was a long time ago and I was not too invested, so I may get a couple of details wrong), I was browsing Lookism (?) around 2017, when the first Ramieri patient published his testimony.
He was a young, wig-wearing Indian guy living in England. He had a trimax or bimax, malar or inframalar implants, and a rhino (!) ... and he paid only 15K€ for all that ! Nowadays, I don't think the same amount covers a plain bimax. Jawflation (aka surgeons' greed) is real !

And, yeah, the real issue is when info that is initially shared here ends up circulating on other platforms, mostly Tiktok, but also Reddit and LM Discord servers. That's how price hikes occur.

I hate how some people are low iq af man not realising that they are doubling or tripping the price sin a shirt time

I hope that the prices actually double and triple for some idiots here so tbt they can't pay at all or pay triple like an idiot

Shouldn't be hard to understand that one doesn't want to pay double the price even if someone has the money

These mofos are acting as if one surgery set is gonna ascend them but surprise mofo you need like 4 to potentially ascend (typical beginner mistake)

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

If I recall correctly (it was a long time ago and I was not too invested, so I may get a couple of details wrong), I was browsing Lookism (?) around 2017, when the first Ramieri patient published his testimony.
He was a young, wig-wearing Indian guy living in England. He had a trimax or bimax, malar or inframalar implants, and a rhino (!) ... and he paid only 15K€ for all that ! Nowadays, I don't think the same amount covers a plain bimax. Jawflation (aka surgeons' greed) is real !

And, yeah, the real issue is when info that is initially shared here ends up circulating on other platforms, mostly Tiktok, but also Reddit and LM Discord servers. That's how price hikes occur.

Yep THe times when people could keep their mouth shut

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

I know exactly who you’re talking about

He did like a whole vlog thing even at the airport as well right

Yeah it’s fucking insane that now you would have to pay basically double that just for a bimax from him

And I think it’s only gonna get exponentially worse over the years

Until a new supply of surgeons can come in to fill the demand 10-15 years down the line, we really got screwed

Yep and all the low iq people spreading the name even more online without gatekeep it behind a private DM are gonna make it even worse and bring stupid low iq arguments like @lawenstn and say JUST get your money up if they increase their prices

He is probably one of those people that would be anything for any price and wouldn't check if it's worth his money or not

 

[lawenstn]

I don't know if you can't read or are to stupid to absorb the information you read properly it must be one of the two things and I never said anything is reserved for me and trust me I have other surgeons I'm also looking at but references are what is important in this game

yet youre sitting here fuming

How many surgeries, revisions etc have you done? I have the money but if the costs doesn't rise because people make a surgeon famous quickly o can do even more surgery quicker and more efficient
Such a stupid thing to say that one should get their money up unless you have a time wasting and spending money fetish
I guess some people are too low iq to get it and of you had some work done already you would know and you would also know that you alos have to spend money unrelated to surgeries when you are there a

I had one this year and thats pretty much all I need besides a little revision next year, I couldnt care less if prices go up just go to a different place youre acting like there is a shortage of experienced and good plastic surgeons

I can go to whichever surgeon I want but would prefer that all of us have a reasonable price to pay because surgeries fix falos and don't create halos so te he price you are paying should be reasonable

crazy rhyme there but why are you acting like the white knight of surgery fanatic incels

Yep and all the low iq people spreading the name even more online without gatekeep it behind a private DM are gonna make it even worse and bring stupid low iq arguments like @ L @lawenstn and say JUST get your money up if they increase their prices

Exactly some people are fucking low iq though

I hate how some people are low iq af

You cant be a real person youre acting like a little kid

He is probably one of those people that would be anything for any price and wouldn't check if it's worth his money or not

All I needed was two different consultations in a 1h radius of my home to find a experienced surgeon who got the skills for what I needed and suprise I didnt get botched and you want to know the best thing? I didnt even have to pay anything since he managed to get it covered by insurance yet im telling you to get your money up because thats what you should do instead of bitching around because of something that you cant even change, its truly ironic how retarded you are

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

yet youre sitting here fuming

I had one this year and thats pretty much all I need besides a little revision next year, I couldnt care less if prices go up just go to a different place youre acting like there is a shortage of experienced and good plastic surgeons

crazy rhyme there but why are you acting like the white knight of surgery fanatic incels



You cant be a real person youre acting like a little kid

All I needed was two different consultations in a 1h radius of my home to find a experienced surgeon who got the skills for what I needed and suprise I didnt get botched and you want to know the best thing? I didnt even have to pay anything since he managed to get it covered by insurance yet im telling you to get your money up because thats what you should do instead of bitching around because of something that you cant even change, its truly ironic how retarded you are

Wow you surely write a lot and a lot of bullshit on top

You must be monolingual and low iq in order not to realize that more and more places rising their prices can have a domino effect and that it's always good to be able to go to surgeons that have a lot of references

Its a nice feeling to be able to go to a surgeon that has mogger results without being overcharged

Also other people won't wanna go to insurance surgeons cause they are not always aesthetically focused or other people might not be from a country where insurance covers that

I have more money than you you faggot I just value my money and of course you think I can't be real cause you are secretly a fan boy and impressed by the superior iq yeah the IQ Mog is crazy

 

[lawenstn]

Wow you surely write a lot and a lot of bullshit on top

You must be monolingual and low iq in order not to realize that more and more places rising their prices can have a domino effect and that it's always good to be able to go to surgeons that have a lot of references

Its a nice feeling to be able to go to a surgeon that has mogger results without being overcharged

I’ll make the point clear for you why I’m clowning you: you constantly complain under threads about people name dropping surgeons who are ALREADY more then well known and pretty much some of the few first you will find if you do any type of research so your low iq brain can’t seem to comprehend that there is literally no sense since it’s already to late in those cases so your posts have no value and you must truly be retarded that you believe that if you reply “saar dont tell the name ” that anything changes at all

Also you seem to be misunderstanding that I’m wasting my money simply because I’m telling you to get your money up if you want to go to a famous surgeon because maybe enlighten me what’s your option besides getting your money up and paying the price that they are asking for

Also other people won't wanna go to insurance surgeons cause they are not always aesthetically focused or other people might not be from a country where insurance covers that

in Germany you are very flexible when it comes to picking where you are going to get your surgery when it’s covered by insurance certain adaptions just have to be paid extra which wasn’t necessary in my case tho and if your from a third world country well unlucky for them they probably won’t even have the flexibility to pick a surgeon which isn’t also from some random third world country that’s just how it is not everyone is lucky

I have more money than you you faggot I just value my money and of course you think I can't be real cause you are secretly a fan boy and impressed by the superior iq yeah the IQ Mog is crazy

I doubt that you had a higher net worth then me at my age and I’m sure I’m quite a bit younger and probably still more wealthy then you. You really think way to highly of yourself I also doubt that you have a higher education then me but tell your tales and keep coping

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

I’ll make the point clear for you why I’m clowning you: you constantly complain under threads about people name dropping surgeons who are ALREADY more then well known and pretty much some of the few first you will find if you do any type of research so your low iq brain can’t seem to comprehend that there is literally no sense since it’s already to late in those cases so your posts have no value and you must truly be retarded that you believe that if you reply “saar dont tell the name ” that anything changes at all

Also you seem to be misunderstanding that I’m wasting my money simply because I’m telling you to get your money up if you want to go to a famous surgeon because maybe enlighten me what’s your option besides getting your money up and paying the price that they are asking for


in Germany you are very flexible when it comes to picking where you are going to get your surgery when it’s covered by insurance certain adaptions just have to be paid extra which wasn’t necessary in my case tho and if your from a third world country well unlucky for them they probably won’t even have the flexibility to pick a surgeon which isn’t also from some random third world country that’s just how it is not everyone is lucky

I doubt that you had a higher net worth then me at my age and I’m sure I’m quite a bit younger and probably still more wealthy then you. You really think way to highly of yourself I also doubt that you have a higher education then me but tell your tales and keep coping

First of all cry with your angry emojis and understand that nothing is too late until they hike the prices

If they get hyped more and more they will hike their prices the same way it happened with Ramieri and Pagnoni
Just being discussed in the forum might mean they are eventually gonna end up with higher prices but that doesn't mean you should speed it up

Ich bin auch aus Deutschland und kann dir sagen dass sehr viele Surgeons dich nicht ascenden wenn du die über die Kasse bekommst und selbst wenn du einen gefunden hast musst du nicht egoistisch sein und anderen die Tour vermasseln die das nicht gecovered bekommen oder das Geld nicht MEHR haben weil Surgeons immer beliebter gemacht werden müssen bis diese ein Ego aufbauen und den Preis erhöhen

Es ging in der Diskussion auch gar nicht darüber was die Option ist und klar bezahle ich mehr wenn die Preise hoch gehen und ich aus irgendeine Grund unbedingt zu dem Chirurgen will aber das heißt nicht dass man das beschleunigen muss und es nen Domino Effekt auslösen muss

Je mehr Chirurgen ihre Preise erhöhen desto höher werden die Standard Preise und Plastische Chirurgie ist eh overvalued in den meisten fällen Weil man meistens nur failos fixxen kann und selten wirklich Halos kreieren kann also warum sollte man wenn einem der Chirurg gefällt innerhalb weniger tage noch mehr bezahlen müssen und sich fragen ob das überhaupt Sinn macht nur weil leute nicht verstehen dass man sowas besser privat besprechen sollte

Weiß nicht woher du das mit dem Geld wissen willst aber wie du denkst ich kann dir sagen das es einige Krypto Bull markets gab über die Jahre und dann willst du mir erzählen du bist schlauer als 99 Prozent der Menschen?? wie eingebildet nicht jeder ist dumm in Deutschland auch wenn es die meisten wahrscheinlich eh sind

Dein Geld sollte dir was wert sein wenn du mehr Geld sparst kannst du in mehr Sachen problemlos investieren
Du solltest wissen dass sich jeder Cent aufsummiert über die Zeit und du dein Geld schlau benutzen solltest

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

I’ll make the point clear for you why I’m clowning you: you constantly complain under threads about people name dropping surgeons who are ALREADY more then well known and pretty much some of the few first you will find if you do any type of research so your low iq brain can’t seem to comprehend that there is literally no sense since it’s already to late in those cases so your posts have no value and you must truly be retarded that you believe that if you reply “saar dont tell the name ” that anything changes at all

Also you seem to be misunderstanding that I’m wasting my money simply because I’m telling you to get your money up if you want to go to a famous surgeon because maybe enlighten me what’s your option besides getting your money up and paying the price that they are asking for


in Germany you are very flexible when it comes to picking where you are going to get your surgery when it’s covered by insurance certain adaptions just have to be paid extra which wasn’t necessary in my case tho and if your from a third world country well unlucky for them they probably won’t even have the flexibility to pick a surgeon which isn’t also from some random third world country that’s just how it is not everyone is lucky

I doubt that you had a higher net worth then me at my age and I’m sure I’m quite a bit younger and probably still more wealthy then you. You really think way to highly of yourself I also doubt that you have a higher education then me but tell your tales and keep coping

The funny part is you started with your assumptions telling me I need to get my money up when you can't possibly know my financial situation just because I don't want to be stupid with money
We are literally from the same country how can you be so sure you have a better education than me and a higher networth even if that was the case

I have a Bachelors degree with good Grades so unless you have a masters or a study field that is better than me I wouldn't even see the need to make this a conversation

Shows me you actually think highly of yourself and automatically think you are better than others

You might be German but money wise you don't seem to think like a German and make decisions that cause you to indirectly sue your money inefficiently

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

I’ll make the point clear for you why I’m clowning you: you constantly complain under threads about people name dropping surgeons who are ALREADY more then well known and pretty much some of the few first you will find if you do any type of research so your low iq brain can’t seem to comprehend that there is literally no sense since it’s already to late in those cases so your posts have no value and you must truly be retarded that you believe that if you reply “saar dont tell the name ” that anything changes at all

Also you seem to be misunderstanding that I’m wasting my money simply because I’m telling you to get your money up if you want to go to a famous surgeon because maybe enlighten me what’s your option besides getting your money up and paying the price that they are asking for


in Germany you are very flexible when it comes to picking where you are going to get your surgery when it’s covered by insurance certain adaptions just have to be paid extra which wasn’t necessary in my case tho and if your from a third world country well unlucky for them they probably won’t even have the flexibility to pick a surgeon which isn’t also from some random third world country that’s just how it is not everyone is lucky

I doubt that you had a higher net worth then me at my age and I’m sure I’m quite a bit younger and probably still more wealthy then you. You really think way to highly of yourself I also doubt that you have a higher education then me but tell your tales and keep coping

You are aware that many westerners go to third world countries and even inflate the prices there too right? I'm not speaking about any German surgeons you are getting covered by insurance and we are not discussing them here

Thats not where third worlders go

We are precisely speaking about Turkey and thailand

 

[Jgns]

Yeah they are morons like you
Its not hard to comprehend that one shouldn't spread names like that and speaking about it officially is gonna hike up the prices to levels where normies wouldn't be able to pay anymore and would have to look for another surgeon

They won't tais ethe prices if you come as a Caucasian they rise the prices once they become popular and the shepherds arrive for surgery

You never did a consult or a surgery

my goat richardson would lower his prices instead

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

my goat richardson would lower his prices instead

No question Sunil Richardson is the goat
Literally the only surgeon that can ascend a sub 3 to a 6 out of 10

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I've had a consult with them and they wanted me to make an org post about them to promote them for a discount

 

[kingofkings]

I've had a consult with them and they wanted me to make an org post about them to promote them for a discount

Interesting. I've always wondered if Steve Rogers secretly made bank from recommending them. He basically single handedly started the trend of people going to that clinic and a lot of people overlook how good his surrounding eye area already was before he got it done. My gut instinct says it's all been organic but you never know.

Now it's become like a self-fulfilling prophecy because so many people have gone there, they've gotten tons of experience at perfecting supra fat injecting done the way we want.

Which is something else to consider. Yeah the price has gone up because of demand. But that higher price also reflects more experience in the niche area of supra fat injection for male aesthetics. I'd rather pay more for an injector who's done it to a ton of lookxmax autists, than a random local injector