Hi guys, in this guide/thread I'd like to share information about what this herb changed in me because I think the changes were pretty significant.
Before I start, I'd like to address the starting point and the circumstances I've met because I think this is very important.
I read a DHT maxxing guide which was mentioning that it boosts your base DHT 5 TIMES its amount. Sounds promising but it's just one isolated study. I was pretty skeptical, but looking at the fact that it was dirt cheap, I just bought it lol. I was taking 400 mg a day at the start and:
Important notes about that: I am a hyperresponder to basically everything: alcohol, nicotine, methylphenidate. So the dose that wouldn't do anything to anyone could do much more to me.
Later on, I took 800 mg for 2 weeks. I was cycling that every time I felt bad about my clavicles, so over 8 months I made multiple cycles that were short.
What did I achieve?
I grew 5 cm.
My clavicles grew from 15.8 cm to 18 and 18.2 cm (my left clavicle is slightly larger than the right one, maybe because I'm left-handed, no idea).
My mandible and browridge developed insanely bigger.
My infraorbitals also did grow.
Another important thing is that I took it when I was 16, but I started puberty very late, so my bone age could be 13ish to 14. I also drank huge amounts of milk during that, mostly because I am underweight and it was easy calories for me. My diet didn't really change; it was carbs, protein, and calcium from milk. Sometimes I'd eat raw liver, but it was very inconsistent.
I also think that my estrogen levels dropped, because I stopped developing any gyno. I'd also say that my nipples are a little smaller than they were before. I think they are just less sensitive because you can't reverse gyno. I felt bad during cycles; my skin was dehydrated and I'd have a bad mood all the time I was taking it, and as I've said, there were multiple short cycles (up to 4 weeks at lower doses).
My hips and waist (62 cm and 75 cm) stayed the same. I'd even say my waist got smaller, but that's mostly because of my posture change, not the herb on its own, so the estrogen is low or too low to develop hips.
Could be puberty, could be diet, could be butea. I have no idea. Studies are insignificant on humans, but anyways I felt it's worth sharing to you as it did help me develop better.
Id forgot to say, i was also swimming from that time a lot, anyways my delts are to small as im 62 kg at 6 feet tall.
Final words - worth a shot if you don't expect miracles and you're young enough, as it's dirt cheap. LMK if you want a more in-depth analysis in which I'd try to look for some studies
Before I start, I'd like to address the starting point and the circumstances I've met because I think this is very important.
I read a DHT maxxing guide which was mentioning that it boosts your base DHT 5 TIMES its amount. Sounds promising but it's just one isolated study. I was pretty skeptical, but looking at the fact that it was dirt cheap, I just bought it lol. I was taking 400 mg a day at the start and:
- my father said I look wider
- I grew a few cm in a month
- sometimes my pe muscles would hurt or feel bad (potential prostate growth?)
- I felt hot all the time; I think it does something to your T3 levels but I'm not sure about it. I was sweating very intensively during that.
Important notes about that: I am a hyperresponder to basically everything: alcohol, nicotine, methylphenidate. So the dose that wouldn't do anything to anyone could do much more to me.
Later on, I took 800 mg for 2 weeks. I was cycling that every time I felt bad about my clavicles, so over 8 months I made multiple cycles that were short.
What did I achieve?
I grew 5 cm.
My clavicles grew from 15.8 cm to 18 and 18.2 cm (my left clavicle is slightly larger than the right one, maybe because I'm left-handed, no idea).
My mandible and browridge developed insanely bigger.
My infraorbitals also did grow.
Another important thing is that I took it when I was 16, but I started puberty very late, so my bone age could be 13ish to 14. I also drank huge amounts of milk during that, mostly because I am underweight and it was easy calories for me. My diet didn't really change; it was carbs, protein, and calcium from milk. Sometimes I'd eat raw liver, but it was very inconsistent.
I also think that my estrogen levels dropped, because I stopped developing any gyno. I'd also say that my nipples are a little smaller than they were before. I think they are just less sensitive because you can't reverse gyno. I felt bad during cycles; my skin was dehydrated and I'd have a bad mood all the time I was taking it, and as I've said, there were multiple short cycles (up to 4 weeks at lower doses).
My hips and waist (62 cm and 75 cm) stayed the same. I'd even say my waist got smaller, but that's mostly because of my posture change, not the herb on its own, so the estrogen is low or too low to develop hips.
Could be puberty, could be diet, could be butea. I have no idea. Studies are insignificant on humans, but anyways I felt it's worth sharing to you as it did help me develop better.
Id forgot to say, i was also swimming from that time a lot, anyways my delts are to small as im 62 kg at 6 feet tall.
Final words - worth a shot if you don't expect miracles and you're young enough, as it's dirt cheap. LMK if you want a more in-depth analysis in which I'd try to look for some studies
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