both, dips and pullups are amazing exercises that most bodybuilders use as well, also calisthenics has cool movements like planche and plance pushups and all that
pull up to jbs walking on your hands
Give me the exercises you do I am very interested since calisthenics is way more diverse in some ways. other people reading this too. and your split of course.
Can't really give my split since it's still evolving,(and honestly i cba) you should have your own split depending on your level and equipment.
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Agreed
buy dumbells and do lateral raises
The second part of this is true, but the resistance from certain machine and free weight exercises for most muscle groups is superior to bodyweight alone. Your muscles only care about resistance yes, but weights and calisthenics don’t provide the same resistance. Lift weights to achieve your physique goals asap.
calisthenics builds healty femalegaze pyshiques, gyms doesn't
This isn’t really true. Your physique in terms of aesthetics is mostly genetic. You can build muscle mass through training, but your insertions and structure will determine your aesthetics. If you’re deliberate and intelligent with how you lift weights, you can achieve the physique that you would achieve in years of calisthenics alone, in half that time by lifting weights. If you don’t want to be bulky and want to be “healthy femalegaze”, eat less, leanmaxx and target the muscle groups you associate with that specific look. Lifting weights is more efficient.
just go on youtube, type gym advice, and then type calisthenics advice (or whatever you wanna search), and see for yourself which group has more aesthetic pyshiques
This is called the swimmers body illusion. When you see swimmers physiques, you think damn they look good I should swim to look like them. You swim for 5 years and look nothing like them. Why? They swim because of how they look, they dont look how they do because they swim. The same applies for calisthenics. The leaner guys with longer levers excel, and the shorter, heavier guys are doomed to fail. If you’re talking about bodybuilders being unaesthetic, that is the result of mass overconsumption and anabolic usage. The most aesthetic physiques are actually achieved through lifting weights usually (Laid etc). This is because it allows the individuals with the best insertions & structure to gain the muscle mass most efficiently.
are doomed to fail in what sense? lmao 99% of fitness youtubers don't compete so theres no swimmer body illussion, it's about the quality of the content, the looks matter but in a smaller percentage (unlike sports where the pyshiques you are born with determine if you can compete or not)
gym is cringe and unhealthy as fuck
The goals of the bodybuilder make them unappealing to the female gaze. Not the act of lifting weights. Its difficult for you to separate you opinion of the activity from its effect but the truth is, you can’t actually explain why calisthenics has these female gaze physique developing properties. Because it doesn’t, its simply a training method to produce hypertrophy, that is less effective than lifting free weights or machines in most movements.
Lifting weights is extremely healthy if done correctly, bodybuilding is unhealthy. The two aren’t the same.
doing the former is comparable to calistheniques
I think we both agree that physical training shouldn’t be extreme, I actually have no issue with calisthenics and whatever gets people training is great, 99% of users here would see huge improvements in their appearance using calisthenics. I’m only saying that for physique improvement, the gym can be the most efficient method when used correctly. I don’t advocate for extreme bulking or anything. Gaining muscle mass fast through optimal lifting, and then leanmaxxing.
You are correct again
yeah maybe for targeting a muscle in your ass it maybe better but calisthenics gives better: posture, flexibility, p4p strength and muscle definition
Interesting, I know some people like that but they are just morons who say going to the gym is alpha and ect but I haven't thought about people subconsciously being like that.
Most stupid thread ever.
Nope, I have been training mostly in the gym but I incorporate calisthenics too and sometimes I workout at home with my pull up bar and on my parallel stand. Doing this for the past 9 months and I have seen amazing progress and I was trying to see what others do/think of the calisthenics vs gym argument. But hey you moronic ego maniacs will always think the way you do so goodbye.
