Calling all High IQ roid maxxers - what cycles are you guys running?

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I’m running into a lot of issues regarding planning my next cycle. I’m trying to maximize muscle growth while minimizing health risks, bloat and price issues.

High test is great but it causes water retention and bloating. Due largely to estrogen. I’m considering whether tight E2 control, combined with electrolyte management and a good diuretic stack could actually mitigate this effect, though i kinda doubt it at 750-1000mg a week

EQ is an great for lean gains with minimal estrogen conversion and water. Also great for a dry + vascular look. But huge issues with RBC as its anabolic effect is paired with erythropoietic stimulation. Its hard to manage this in a country where donating blood on steroids is not allowed (in before called a high inhib faggot)

Primobolan is basically perfect from a safety standpoint. Low androgenic ratio so good for ski aging, mild on organs and lowers e2 so you can run it without worrying too much about bloating or blood pressure. The downside is just the price even buying from China, it’s retard level expensive

NPP is decent, but the muscle gains are noticeably weaker than Test or EQ. It also brings some mild water retention. Also can have weird mental sides

Masteron is great on paper—hard, dry, vascular and cheap but the high androgenic ratio will rape your skin so ruled that out

Tren for obvious reasons doesn’t make much sense unless you dont care about collagen and mental health

Given all this, it seems we are limited to moderate Test (200–300 mg/week) plus small amounts of Primo due to cost and this won’t produce that great of results unless hyper responder. Wondering what all the high IQ roidcels on here are running
 
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Given all this, it seems we are limited to moderate Test (200–300 mg/week) plus small amounts of Primo due to cost and this won’t produce that great of results unless hyper responder. Wondering what all the high IQ roidcels on here are running
If i were you, i would run 500 test only.
See the results. If you're happy you're good.
If not add 30mg anavar or maybe some retatruide if you want to lean out
Or just do tren at 50mg max

Don't do primo or mast they are shit. Ask @chadisbeingmade he knows more ab that than me
 
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you were running primo and test last time no?
 
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If i were you, i would run 500 test only.
See the results. If you're happy you're good.
If not add 30mg anavar or maybe some retatruide if you want to lean out
Or just do tren at 50mg max

Don't do primo or mast they are shit. Ask @chadisbeingmade he knows more ab that than me
I have a lot of experience with steroids in the past but had a lot of time off the gym

How was the water retention on 500mg test? Generally in the past this was known as a beginner dose. Micro dose tren might make sense ive ran it before at 200mg
 
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I have a lot of experience with steroids in the past but had a lot of time off the gym

How was the water retention on 500mg test? Generally in the past this was known as a beginner dose. Micro dose tren might make sense ive ran it before at 200mg
Yeah i mean i ran 500 test with zero issues. water retention might happen, sure. But so will it with everything else tbh. tren, reta or var to dry you out
Rn i'm cruising at 300mg and i'm very happy with it.

I ran 200mg tren before aswell with zero issues. microdosing makes great sense since the recepters still get hit but with small sides
 
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you were running primo and test last time no?
Yep but primo has gone up 10x the price damnn near. Would cost me $20 usd a week just to run 400mg which isnt even a decent dose
 
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Yeah i mean i ran 500 test with zero issues. water retention might happen, sure. But so will it with everything else tbh. tren, reta or var to dry you out
Rn i'm cruising at 300mg and i'm very happy with it.

I ran 200mg tren before aswell with zero issues. microdosing makes great sense since the recepters still get hit but with small sides
Yeah tren is amazing but im trying to be more active about muh health nowadays jfl
 
yeah might try this with ai + diuretic stack

whats ur next cycle?
take what im saying with a grain of salt but have we considered dosing test + eq instead of test + ai would be much higher ROI then just test, considering ai has its own side effects and draw backs, i think a moderate dosage of eq 150-300 would be fine but im willing to hear other opinions
 
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take what im saying with a grain of salt but have we considered dosing test + eq instead of test + ai would be much higher ROI then just test, considering ai has its own side effects and draw backs, im hesitant to say a moderate dosage of eq 150-300 would be that harmful but im willing to hear other options
nah thats a good idea actually
150-300mg eq minimal gains tbh but def better than ais in some ways
 
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nah thats a good idea actually
150-300mg eq minimal gains tbh but def better than ais in some ways
there are also some OTC sups you could take to mitigate some of the issues, like nattokanise and baby aspirin, obviously donating blood is ideal,

what i plan to do for my next cycle, as im in accutane which also prohibits you from donating blood. poison is in the dose fs
 
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